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March 4th, 2013 12:59 GMT

Table of Contents




Introducing TL Strategy
The new center of StarCraft II strategy



The Key Threads
The first stop for all your strategy needs



High Level Guides
Spotlighted and peer-reviewed



A Cooperation with Liquipedia
Liquipedia gains some strategy



Protoss vs Zerg
Updates to the ultimate guide



Strategy Reviews
High level analysis of professional games



Introducing TL Strategy



Previously, there did not exist a particularly good hub of information about Starcraft II Strategy on the internet. Your best bet was probably the Teamliquid strategy forums, but the guides written were often poorly organized and the quality wasn't easily verified. Liquipedia had the opposite problem; its guides were organized, but they were often out-of-date and incomplete. Some strategy content producers like Day[9] and d.Apollo produce great content, but they are but just single individuals. There are also a lot of smaller sites that try to cater to strategy, such as various coaching sites, reddit strategy, and small "guide" sites, but none of these have really taken the initiative to be more.

After the release of the Protoss versus Zerg guide, I received a flood of replies from volunteers wishing to donate their free time in order to help out with updates to this guide and even future guides. It was then that I realized that with some organization, Teamliquid had the potential and the resources to hold a dominant position as the premier place for StarCraft II strategy on the web. Our strategy section already contains many high quality guides written and researched by high level players. And for the first time, we had a readily available, organized group of motivated volunteers willing to cooperate in order to churn out projects for the strategy section..

I believe the timing for this transition is perfect. The release of the ultimate PvZ guide shows that we are serious about producing high quality content. In addition, the upcoming release of HotS will certainly drive up the demand for guides with the brand new strategies it's sure to bring along with it. So without further ado, here is what a revamped TeamLiquid Strategy section means.


The Key Threads



The first step is to build on and showcase what we currently have, a supply of quality guides gathered over the years. As such, we've recently updated The Recommended Guides Thread with all the quality guides that are still mostly relevant to this day. In it, you'll find the best guides ever written on Teamliquid about a variety of topics including overviews on most of the match-ups.

Next, one of the biggest problems in the strategy section we've attempted to solve was the abundance of repeat questions. Questions get repeated all the time, even though there usually is one clear and correct answer. Our answer to this was to create a hub of frequently asked questions. As such, we've refitted all the race-specific help me threads so that they contain all of the best and most recent answers given by verified "blue" posters to the most pressing questions of each race.

The Terran Help Me Thread and The Protoss Help Me Thread are both ready to go and are full of great answers given in the past few months. They're both extremely in-depth, full of excellent top tier advice, and should be the first stop for all your Terran and Protoss questions. Special credit goes to TheDwf who has answered almost every question asked in the Terran Help Me Thread in extreme depth.

Unfortunately, Zergs have typically had fewer and less active blue posters and as such, there wasn't as big a pool of high quality answers we can draw from. As such, The Zerg Help Me Thread is currently less complete than the others. But let's see what we can do about that.

The Pro Zerg Strategy Q/A


Inspired by the widely successful Pro Terran Strategy Q/A, in which top Terrans such as Ver, TheDwf, KawaiiRice, and Pokebunny helped out struggling Terrans, we present to you, The Pro Zerg Strategy Q/A. This thread brings together some of the best Zergs in the foreigner scene to help Zerg players with their most vexing concerns. With these players' help, we can populate the Zerg Help Me Thread and help a few struggling Zergs along the way. The Zergs who have graciously volunteered some of their time include:
  • (Z)Blade(NA GM, HotS GM)
  • (Z)Col.Ryze(NA GM)
  • (Z)EG.Suppy(using his TL account superiorwolf)
  • (Z)Evaner(EU GM)
  • (Z)FireZerg(NA GM, WCG Canadian Representative)
  • (Z)QuanticGlon(NA GM, HotS GM)
  • (Z)Liquid`Ret
  • (Z)Liquid`Snute
  • (Z)Liquid`TLO
  • (Z)Liquid`Zenio
  • (Z)WW.SortOf


Spotlighted Peer-Reviewed Guides


Now that we have a solid base of key threads we can build from, we can begin to expand on what TL Strategy currently provides. The next step to the expansion of TL Strategy will be the introduction of Spotlighted Peer-Reviewed Guides. This is how it's going to work:

Guide writers will submit their guides for consideration to be spotlighted. These guides will first be heavily peer-reviewed by a panel of high level players. Then they'll be organized, edited, and formatted by our internal strategy team that we've set up specifically for this process. In addition, all accepted guides will be immediately converted to Liquipedia (more on this later.) Finally, all approved guides that have gone through this vigorous process will received a special tag and then be spotlighted on the front page of Teamliquid, one of the, if not THE most heavily trafficked webpage in the Starcraft community. The multitude of benefits this process provides include:
  • Proper promotion of quality content: We actually have many wonderful guides in the strategy forums currently that are very well-written, but they don't get much exposure because many TL users don't frequent the strategy section.
  • Visibility for writers/high level players: It's difficult to convince the average high level, semi-professional, or professional player to write a guide. We understand that writing a guide takes a lot of time commitment and it can expose strategies that their potential opponents can use against them. In the past, it was also rather difficult to get a return on your investment when you wrote a guide. But now that guides will have a place to be displayed more prominently, guide writers can expect to see more of a return in the form of fans, students interested in coaching, or stream viewers.
  • Writers can focus on writing: High level players may have the knowledge but perhaps not the organizational skills nor the time required to write a guide. But when other people are reviewing, editing, adding VODs, and making graphics for them, this time commitment is greatly reduced and guide writers will be able to focus on what they do best: putting their ideas to paper.
  • Standardized, professional-looking guides: In the future, guides will be more standardized guides in terms of formatting and organization. This will allow guides to be much more readable and professional.
  • The TL Strategy Seal of Approval: You can be sure that all guides featured on our front page have gone through our vigorous process and have had a great deal of value added to them. You can be sure that they are all quality guides are the best of what the internet has to offer about Stracraft II strategy.
  • A more complete Liquipedia: Again, more on this later.

Our first example of a spotlighted guide is here. Written by QuanticGlon, this guide attempts to give a brief introduction on all the basic aspects of the Zerg match-ups in Wings of Liberty. Of course, you can also read a [image loading]liquipedia version should you choose. We hope this guide conveys a good idea of what you can expect from us in the future. As HotS comes out, you'll be sure to see a lot more guides fairly soon.


Liquipedia Cooperation

by salle, Head of Liquipedia



One of the things I've always felt that Liquipedia for StarCraft II has been lacking was quality strategy guides and build orders, which were the foundation when Liquipedia was first made for Brood War. We also have thousands of people coming to our wiki every day looking for guides and build orders and I felt really bad when they were faced with a rather outdated set of builds.

Liquipedia is a wiki, and a wiki is a content resource management tool. As such, it's more adept (and adaptable) than a forum at handling large chunks of information distribution. It is easier, for example, to make multiple guides internally link to each other as alternative builds after they are written or completely restructure three similar guides into one or split one guide into multiple guides. This is because anyone, and not just the authors of the other guides, is able to add these links or do these changes. For reasons like this, in my humble opinion, a wiki is better than a forum to handle content such as strategy guides.

What we have needed to be able to get quality guides onto the wiki is a set of trusted experts, people who know and understand the builds used in competitive play, to review guides-if not to write them themselves. The Protoss Portal and the people behind it started to take us down this road slowly, and it was a great first step. But what would be even more awesome would be getting to collaborate with the creators of the original content. We would then have a group that includes both talented writers and reviewers working in unison to create high quality content. Then we could copy these guides onto the wiki where we can connect together all the different guides into a larger whole, creating links between related builds and providing more exposure for the guides. I believe Liquipedia's collaboration with the newly formed TeamLiquid Strategy Team can accomplish just that.

They are a group of experts who produce and verify high quality content. In addition, their contribution to Liquipedia would give them even more exposure through our portal pages. With their help, we can make Liquipedia an even better, more complete resource for strategy. We look forward to working together with them and we will be striving to find more ways we can collaborate and help each other in the future.


Protoss versus Zerg


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Of course, we can't forget the guide that started this all, the all encompassing PvZ guide that caught everyone's eye just three months ago. Not only did it help us recruit a dedicated group of volunteers, it became the basis of our entire featured guide process. Since then, this 100+ page guide has seen a lot of action within the Starcraft community.

First of all, we've had the honor of seeing the guide spotlighted by Blizzard on the North American, European, and even SEA servers. With Blizzard's support, we've exposed our guide to many more players, even those who don't usually frequent TL or may not even have heard of esports before.

Another surprise is the reaction from the international community. Since the release, numerous independent attempts by the international community have been made to translate this ginormous 100+ page document. I'm pleased to announce that the first translation was completed a few weeks ago and I know present to you [image loading] Protoss versus Zerg: The Guide in Chinese(Traditional). If you don't read Traditional Chinese, don't worry. We hear that translations projects in various languages including Chinese(Simplified), Korean, Spanish, and French are still in the works.

And of course, as we've promised, we're going to keep updating the Protoss vs Zerg guide to make it even better, more up-to-date, and more complete than it was before. We've been working hard uploading VODs, fixing minuscule typos and errors, and even further improving and detailing our builds.
  • Updated Immortal all-in build order, courtesy of RemarK
  • Updated VOD list and replay pack with games from GSL Season 5, IEM Singapore, Dreamhack Winter, Asus GD Invitational, Iron Squid Chapter 2, IPL5, 2012 Blizzard cup
  • Fixed miscellaneous typos
  • Updated history section with the latest balance patches

Finally, in addition to being able to read the guide on the TL forums, in its PDF form, or in Chinese in PDF form, you can now choose to browse through it on [image loading]Liquipedia! The guide has now been fully transferred to Liquipedia with beautiful wiki formatting. This adds yet another way to browse through the guide.

After reading or skimming this guide, many have asked us, "Are you going to do guides of the other match-ups in the future?" Now, we're not promising anything, but let's just say that for now, it sure looks a lot more likely.


Strategy Reviews



In addition to quality guides, we will also be focusing on regular strategy analysis of professional games played in leagues such as the GSL or Proleague. Some of you may remember great strategy analyses on Teamliquid such as Morrow's analysis of MC vs Leenock or those contained in Ver's God of the Battlefield Part 1. Well, we're trying to bring these back and as some of you may have noticed, we've been trying to make it a more regular occurrence. Have you seen our recent analyses?
  • Rain vs Parting by monk
  • Flash vs Zenio by Glon
  • ThorZain vs SonGDuri by T.O.P
  • Dear vs Soulkey by Teoita
  • Rain vs HerO by Geiko
  • Flash vs Revival by TheDwf
  • The Evolution of Arkanoid by monk
  • The Twilight of WoL PvZ by monk

So far we've been mostly using guest strategy writers for these analytic pieces, but it's time we recruited some more regular contributors. Again, I'd like to highlight the recruitment call we issued over a month ago. We're still looking for people to write, so feel free to apply by PMing us even if you only wish to write some guest articles.


Of course, we're always in need of help. With the upcoming release of HotS, we'll be sure to see a flux of new strategies and correspondingly, guides that will attempt to explain these strategies. If this sounds like an interesting initiative to you and you want to contribute, please feel free to PM us. Whether you have strategy expertise, other expertise, or no expertise, there's always something you can help with! Also, if you feel like you have a good idea for a guide or have an already finished guide you'd like for us to review and consider for spotlighting, please contact us for that as well.

Thank you for reading. We hope you enjoy what we have for you today and look forward to what we'll continue to produce in the future.


Brought to you by the TL Strategy team. Significant contributions by Alejandrisha, Azera, blade55555, Blazinghand, crbox, FliceR, Geiko, Glon, Indrium, itsjustatank, Jowj, KawaiiRice, marttorn, monk, Natalya, pathy, Pokebunny, PolskaGora, RemarK, salle, SixtusTheFifth, TheDwf, TheEmulator, T.O.P., Teoita, Ver, wo1fwood, and ZeromuS.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 04 2013 13:00 GMT
#2
This is glorious :D
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hammarfOu
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden363 Posts
March 04 2013 13:01 GMT
#3
Looks really good!
Jävla Terran!
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
March 04 2013 13:03 GMT
#4
Great stuff guys, cant wait to see what the future holds. Will dota2 ever get something similar?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33400 Posts
March 04 2013 13:03 GMT
#5
hopefully this will really take off with HotS as people try to find out how to play effectively
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Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
March 04 2013 13:04 GMT
#6
Awesome! It should help quite a few people =]
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Asterion
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany193 Posts
March 04 2013 13:05 GMT
#7
Great initiative, hope this gets big!
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
March 04 2013 13:06 GMT
#8
I hope koreans help out. Or someone can analyze korean strats for us
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
March 04 2013 13:09 GMT
#9
So is this going to be the new SCII strategy section, and it is going to remedy the issues of both liquipedia and the TL strategy section by taking the best of the two and putting them together as we await HotS? This sounds like a great idea, and I hope it goes well, especially since HotS is going to present new questions.
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buntuka
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany40 Posts
March 04 2013 13:11 GMT
#10
this. is. awesome!
viva la vida
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 13:46:28
March 04 2013 13:11 GMT
#11
I can say hooray because I wasn't banned this time around! Hooray!

Edit: worth my 2k post definitely.
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Luzian
Profile Joined February 2013
Switzerland26 Posts
March 04 2013 13:11 GMT
#12
This is great news! If only this existed already when I started playing SC2, I am sure I could have climbed from Bronze to high Masters a lot faster...

At least this will help out many other people.
moskonia
Profile Joined January 2011
Israel1448 Posts
March 04 2013 13:12 GMT
#13
I doubt you will be able to refine strategies until the game settles down a bit (which might take a few months), but anyways I can't wait to see how this will pan out, hopefully every known strategy will be included in the proper section and the game can become a much more refined and prepared builds game, even at non-pro level.
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Where dat snitch at?37025 Posts
March 04 2013 13:14 GMT
#14
TL never ceases to amaze.
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Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
March 04 2013 13:15 GMT
#15
Glad to see TL is taking this initiative. I used to use Liquipedia for strategy in the early days of sc2 and looking forward to using it again =)
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 04 2013 13:17 GMT
#16
Woohoo!
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
March 04 2013 13:18 GMT
#17
Amazing!
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Radiated11
Profile Joined December 2011
United States32 Posts
March 04 2013 13:19 GMT
#18
This is great, I'm definitely gonna need help getting back into sc2 when HotS comes out.
shz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany2687 Posts
March 04 2013 13:25 GMT
#19
Such an amazing initiative.
Liquipedia
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
March 04 2013 13:29 GMT
#20
this sounds like a crap load of work lol
gl
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DreamOen
Profile Joined March 2010
Spain1400 Posts
March 04 2013 13:30 GMT
#21
This is a really good move by teamliquid.
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Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
March 04 2013 13:32 GMT
#22
I knew I saw something fishy in 77 ... Great idea, let's hope it flourishes.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
March 04 2013 13:38 GMT
#23
I think Darkforce also deserves a shout-out since he has answered a lot of questions in the strategy forum.
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
March 04 2013 13:45 GMT
#24
teamliquid is full of zerg trolls. i left teamliquid a long time ago, and i have never regretted not visiting their site again. every single article has troll undertones against protoss and terran. its enjoyable to read and hear subtle sc2 racism from a "community" that is supposed to be for ALL sc2 players, not just zerg players. this is a great guide but at high lvl zerg still own protoss. when i watch pro pvz games i see protoss players outplaying zerg players and still losing games. i see a bunch of zerg players 1a their entire army for a single drop all the time, yet all i hear is zerg players using "1a" to describe protoss play. I do agree that if played correctly protoss is equally as strong as zerg or terran, the problem is that playing protoss correctly is MUCH harder than playing zerg correctly. this guide is just an attempt from the zerg trolls at teamliquid to avoid a nerf to their overpowered matchup, pvz.

Oh god I love the Bnet forums


ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Eeeegor
Profile Joined April 2005
Australia809 Posts
March 04 2013 13:46 GMT
#25
Looks awesome guys, great initiative
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Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
March 04 2013 13:47 GMT
#26
This is absolutely amazing - tell me, how will edits to Liquidpedia and the strat-forum post be managed? Will an editor have to do the leg work or is there something more fancy?
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Dijego
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands33 Posts
March 04 2013 13:49 GMT
#27
Would be nice if it worked like the website basically does currently. Let me explain: currently with the live streams there is a clear distinction between featured and non-featured. In my opinion the same system could work with a strategy "hub" where everyone is able to create content, but only featured users get the good spots.

Problems that might occur because of this are things like duplicate strategies and other redundant information, but through the addition of the "featured" feature it is clear to the user what can be considered as a good quality strategy that is made by reliable people who have a good understanding of the game and know what they're doing.

Also there should be the possibility of rating a strategy, with the exception of the featured perhaps as their quality is already more or less guaranteed. This way people who can create good strategies can gain more fame and bring their strategies to the well-deserved attention.
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ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
March 04 2013 13:50 GMT
#28
Great job, I really hope Liquipedia can benefit from it too.
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Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
March 04 2013 13:50 GMT
#29
I've been planning on playing a lot more seriously when HotS comes out, so this is absolutely perfect for me! Can't wait to start using this, looks so amazing.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
March 04 2013 13:51 GMT
#30
hey, awesome to see this out. My name's misspelled in the credits but still a great initiative
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Mahanaim
Profile Joined December 2012
Korea (South)1002 Posts
March 04 2013 13:56 GMT
#31
Wish the best for all of y'all!
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zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
March 04 2013 13:56 GMT
#32
With HOTS coming up within a week more this will help me and all players alot! Thank you for the awesome move TL!
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 14:02:04
March 04 2013 14:00 GMT
#33
^_^
monk's great dream finally unveiled!

edit: fuck yeah finally my name is spelled right!
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51490 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 14:03:56
March 04 2013 14:02 GMT
#34
Wow, this is going get you even more hits on TL!
Well done, it's like a WoW guide structure, which have millions of hits and im sure this will get hits too

Good initiative TL
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 04 2013 14:05 GMT
#35
On March 04 2013 22:45 Aunvilgod wrote:
teamliquid is full of zerg trolls. i left teamliquid a long time ago, and i have never regretted not visiting their site again. every single article has troll undertones against protoss and terran. its enjoyable to read and hear subtle sc2 racism from a "community" that is supposed to be for ALL sc2 players, not just zerg players. this is a great guide but at high lvl zerg still own protoss. when i watch pro pvz games i see protoss players outplaying zerg players and still losing games. i see a bunch of zerg players 1a their entire army for a single drop all the time, yet all i hear is zerg players using "1a" to describe protoss play. I do agree that if played correctly protoss is equally as strong as zerg or terran, the problem is that playing protoss correctly is MUCH harder than playing zerg correctly. this guide is just an attempt from the zerg trolls at teamliquid to avoid a nerf to their overpowered matchup, pvz.

Oh god I love the Bnet forums




I don't get this; is it your opinion (in that case, wat) or is it taken from Battle.net? I never visit that site so I'm not up to date with opinions there.
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Norzma
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden160 Posts
March 04 2013 14:05 GMT
#36
I'm really happy something like this is attempted.
Thanks to all the contributors.
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
March 04 2013 14:06 GMT
#37
Wow. This is amazing. So pumped to see what's going to be coming out in the next few months. I've loved everything that you all have been putting out so far, so here's hoping for a continuation of that.

And I'd love to get involved with the editing and review process. When will you start holding signups for that?
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
March 04 2013 14:06 GMT
#38
On March 04 2013 23:06 peanutsfan1995 wrote:
Wow. This is amazing. So pumped to see what's going to be coming out in the next few months. I've loved everything that you all have been putting out so far, so here's hoping for a continuation of that.

And I'd love to get involved with the editing and review process. When will you start holding signups for that?


Just PM monk
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
effecto
Profile Joined February 2011
France142 Posts
March 04 2013 14:08 GMT
#39
It makes me want to write guides ^^ unfortunatly my english is really poor, I have to practice it first.

good work tl !!
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
March 04 2013 14:09 GMT
#40
I love you so much guys! <3

Thanks for all you do!
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zoid
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden36 Posts
March 04 2013 14:11 GMT
#41
This is going to be great!
Näe
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
March 04 2013 14:14 GMT
#42
Holy shit.
I am absolutely amazed how much time and effort people are willing to put into this game and community to help others. To out out content in this quantity and quality for free, that's incredible. Mad props to everyone who's contributing, I love Team Liquid <3
Mikelius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany517 Posts
March 04 2013 14:15 GMT
#43
Mother of God... as if TL wasn't already the best place to search for serious SC content...
Less QQ, more PewPew
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
March 04 2013 14:20 GMT
#44
I am so fucking amped for this.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
March 04 2013 14:26 GMT
#45
Anything that improves Liquipedia sounds like a great idea to me.
Who dat ninja?
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
March 04 2013 14:26 GMT
#46
So there will be a button with Strategy on top of the website, next to Store and such? I don't get what is the actual plan, but having a structured strategy section sounds great. Just put some room to theorycraft somewhere also :p
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 04 2013 14:29 GMT
#47
The PvZ guide was mindblowingly amazing- a whole section of the site like this!? Sign me up.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
FliceR
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Austria72 Posts
March 04 2013 14:32 GMT
#48
Yes! It's out! Love it :D
@peterflicer hit me up on Twitter ;)
FliceR
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Austria72 Posts
March 04 2013 14:33 GMT
#49
@ Crownlol

On March 04 2013 23:29 Crownlol wrote:
The PvZ guide was mindblowingly amazing- a whole section of the site like this!? Sign me up.


Just PM monk
@peterflicer hit me up on Twitter ;)
KaiserJohan
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1808 Posts
March 04 2013 14:34 GMT
#50
Wonderful!
England will fight to the last American
DragoonPK
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
3259 Posts
March 04 2013 14:39 GMT
#51
Brilliant, right on time for me to return to SC2! Great initiative :D
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
March 04 2013 14:51 GMT
#52
Can somebody link me to that salle guy profile? I've got a PM for him.
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
March 04 2013 15:11 GMT
#53
I get that this is also TL.net related, but most importantly it is SC2-only news. Marking it is "TL.net news" means it gets shoved in our faces even on /bw . I mean, Noni leaving TL's SC2 team might have been vaguely relevant because he used to be a BW player, but a SC2 strategy section has no relevance at all to the BW section.
Brood War is alive and well.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
March 04 2013 15:12 GMT
#54
On March 04 2013 22:14 Seeker wrote:
TL never ceases to amaze.


I have to agree with this
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
fusefuse
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Estonia4644 Posts
March 04 2013 15:14 GMT
#55
dayum pathy
looks swell
: D
Liquipedia@jkursk
ChapatiyaqPTSM
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1887 Posts
March 04 2013 15:15 GMT
#56
On March 04 2013 23:51 Cheerio wrote:
Can somebody link me to that salle guy profile? I've got a PM for him.

Just use this link: http://www.teamliquid.net/mytlnet/index.php?view=new
and type "salle" in the first input field.
LiquipediaBoy, these pretzels are makin' me thirsty.
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5221 Posts
March 04 2013 15:20 GMT
#57
W00t, nice! Gogogo~~~
The heart's eternal vow
puppylisk
Profile Joined February 2013
United States47 Posts
March 04 2013 15:22 GMT
#58
Are the spotlighted peer-reviewed guides exclusive to 1v1 only? I think if not I may be interested in writing an actually well written HotS 2v2 guide but like 20x better than my WoL guide and possibly several smaller 1v1 guides (not spotlighted worth), seeing I especially enjoy responding to peoples questions, which brings me to my 2nd question. Is the Zerg Help me thread responders really only dedicated to those volunteered?
http://www.twitch.tv/puppylisk
madnessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States1581 Posts
March 04 2013 15:25 GMT
#59
this is amazing. I haven't won a PvZ in months so the timing is great for me too!
Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
March 04 2013 15:26 GMT
#60
That's amazing!
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
March 04 2013 15:33 GMT
#61
Looks amazing, also a lot of time sunk into this most likely, so can't be bad! :p
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Quochobao
Profile Joined October 2010
United States350 Posts
March 04 2013 15:33 GMT
#62
People are gonna be so good I can't win anymore
Best or nothing.
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
March 04 2013 15:36 GMT
#63
Woot!!!!
I'm a noob
syriuszonito
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland332 Posts
March 04 2013 15:43 GMT
#64
wow this is cool stuff, wirting a guide is tempting now :D
The one || My stream http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/syriuszonito
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 04 2013 15:54 GMT
#65
This is excellent!!

I'd also love it if such an effort could be made for dota 2 as well :D.. I lack the necessary knowledge though.
tili
Profile Joined July 2012
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 16:04:03
March 04 2013 16:03 GMT
#66
This looks so fantastic.

Especially as HotS resets the meta-game, I expect to be reading these religiously.
ForumErik
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands52 Posts
March 04 2013 16:12 GMT
#67
All I can say is om nom nom.

Very very excited for this to become huge!
Hoi
roguff
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland14 Posts
March 04 2013 16:18 GMT
#68
Zerg everywhere - the most youtube Guides are for Zerg or Toss - the must wins has Zerg - where are the Terras Strategy Guides ??
MrMatt
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada225 Posts
March 04 2013 16:22 GMT
#69
Great Ideas all around. I think this will really up the usefulness of the guides for the players and the writers.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
March 04 2013 16:23 GMT
#70
i want a guide to TvZ like that ;-;
)))____◎◎◎◎█████
FliceR
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
Austria72 Posts
March 04 2013 16:27 GMT
#71
On March 05 2013 01:18 roguff wrote:
Zerg everywhere - the most youtube Guides are for Zerg or Toss - the must wins has Zerg - where are the Terras Strategy Guides ??


There will be Terran Guids as well
@peterflicer hit me up on Twitter ;)
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
March 04 2013 16:37 GMT
#72
Looks nice
tuoli9
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland211 Posts
March 04 2013 16:45 GMT
#73
This is pretty much the best thing to happen to TL. Great job guys!
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15329 Posts
March 04 2013 17:01 GMT
#74
TL Strategy team is just so good. Excited!
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
SorrowShine
Profile Joined October 2011
698 Posts
March 04 2013 17:05 GMT
#75
Awesome
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
March 04 2013 17:10 GMT
#76
YES finally released! We are all in for a treat I am sure. Look forward to this a LOT, with HotS I'll have stuff to do again :D
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
MrSparkle
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada135 Posts
March 04 2013 17:11 GMT
#77
Awesome stuff guys. Can't wait to see the new changes and updates over the never few months!
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
March 04 2013 17:15 GMT
#78
Sweet. Really hope this takes off. Great stuff!!
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
crazyweasel
Profile Joined March 2011
607 Posts
March 04 2013 17:23 GMT
#79
thats really really nice initiative. even tho i wont be playing hots, this is amazing
xTheWordAlivex
Profile Joined September 2011
United States16 Posts
March 04 2013 17:27 GMT
#80
Sounds like it will contain some very useful, in-depth information. Looking forward to it, thanks for all the hard work this is going to take.
Mediocrity is the killer.
Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
March 04 2013 17:35 GMT
#81
Liquid stepping it up once again.
Boxer | MVP | Taeja | TLO | Grubby | Bunny (danish)
rtem
Profile Joined March 2011
Finland54 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-04 17:37:46
March 04 2013 17:37 GMT
#82
To be honest I think TL strategy forums was already the best strategy resource by and far. This just goes beyond awesome.
Geiko
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France1939 Posts
March 04 2013 17:44 GMT
#83
Special thanks to monk ! He's the brain behind this whole project and puts in god knows how many hours for the TL strat section.

I'm particularly excited for the peer-reviewed guides and liquipedia collaboration. I hope this will work as a good incentive for valuable contributors to write more guides, and for readers to get quality content.
geiko.813 (EU)
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
March 04 2013 17:53 GMT
#84
I like this!
PlanitDuck
Profile Joined July 2011
United States36 Posts
March 04 2013 18:01 GMT
#85
I am SO insanely happy that there are going to be peer reviewed guides. This should be really great as long as we have good players (read pro-players) participating in this. Looking forward to how this turns out!
I'm pretty tired. Think i'll go home now.
peekn
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States1152 Posts
March 04 2013 18:07 GMT
#86
Very cool, will be using this in the future.
Douillos
Profile Joined May 2010
France3195 Posts
March 04 2013 18:09 GMT
#87
Excellent news. So much quality already... This is going to be crazy!
Look a giraffe! Look a fist!!
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
March 04 2013 18:20 GMT
#88
Wow even for a masters player there's still a lot of questions in the Terran FAQ that I wonder myself. Great work guys, this looks really nice.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Orek
Profile Joined February 2012
1665 Posts
March 04 2013 18:28 GMT
#89
Finallllllly. Good work monk and all the others. Fantastic.
fireforce7
Profile Joined June 2010
United States334 Posts
March 04 2013 18:30 GMT
#90
haha I found it funny and true when it said the forums were good but unreliable and that liquipedia was out of date. Glad this is coming along now
I'm terranfying
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
March 04 2013 18:51 GMT
#91
This is one of the most awesome announcements ever written. in the universe. gl~~
Countdown to victory: 1 200!
Gunjam
Profile Joined July 2012
18 Posts
March 04 2013 19:01 GMT
#92
Good job Monk and all you guys! Love reading your strats!
"People who needs long explanations at moments when everything depends on instinct have always irritated me" Guy Sajer
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
March 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#93
I have no idea how anything of this scale could possibly be pulled off until years down the line when the game is somewhat stabilised.

Good luck though. I'm sure a lot of good stuff will come from it whatever.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
porkRaven
Profile Joined December 2010
United States953 Posts
March 04 2013 19:12 GMT
#94
This is fantastic, thank you everyone who contributed!
SHOUTOUTS TO Aylear!!!
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
March 04 2013 19:19 GMT
#95
Peer reviewed guides by high level players? Oooooooh man this is absolutely awesome. A guide reviewed by a pro will get much more traction than those that are just replied to a lot.

I hope this fixes the issue where threads that just happen to be discussed a lot get more spotlight than threads that might be of a higher quality, but aren't quite as discussed. That is the one thing that reddit has over teamliquid, quality content has higher chance of being in the spotlight, atleast for a little bit.

I'll be looking forward to see if this improves the strategy sections content even more!
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
March 04 2013 19:37 GMT
#96
How come I see this article even though I don't allow SC2 stuff to be shown?
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
March 04 2013 20:25 GMT
#97
****ing awesome. I can't wait! I'm glad it's a lot of high level players.
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
Arctyrus
Profile Joined June 2012
Denmark77 Posts
March 04 2013 20:25 GMT
#98
Just want to show my appreciation of this initiative!
I often lurk the strategy forums for advice, and this is greatly appreciated.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed people can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
March 04 2013 20:28 GMT
#99
lol i like the banner at the top
tl rocks!
My religion is Starcraft
WikidSik
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Canada382 Posts
March 04 2013 20:34 GMT
#100
k this is a great project. One thing id like to add is to Liquipedia. I remember in broodwar I pmed an editor that the dragoon build time was wrong, and the editor was like "o the times relative to all the other units are all the same." I think that was a load of bs :/

But generally I really like Liquipedia, its really helped e get better at sc2.

Also WTF why do koreans need OUR strat guides D: their already better than us! All they need is MC!
Iv been here for 5.5 years. My other accounts are named "Sonu" and "Dalroti" || I had some more but I cant find them XD || known in sc2 as "Sonu"
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
March 04 2013 20:39 GMT
#101
I'm definitely looking forward for the great stuff done even better and being rewarded more.
wwww
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
March 04 2013 20:54 GMT
#102
This is absolutely beautiful.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Leetley
Profile Joined October 2010
1796 Posts
March 04 2013 21:14 GMT
#103
Hell it's about time. Literally.
arcHoniC
Profile Joined January 2011
United States141 Posts
March 04 2013 21:22 GMT
#104
the community is going to benefit from this effort so much I think.

Most talk in the strategy forum is completely vague and non-helpful, very unlike that PvZ Guide. Hopefully i can make a contribution in the future ^^
'Let's lock the doors and make these guys play all night!' - Tasteless
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 04 2013 21:39 GMT
#105
Good timing with HotS, I think this is going to define a large portion of TL as newcomers join the site for HotS
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
ephemere
Profile Joined December 2012
United Kingdom3 Posts
March 04 2013 21:55 GMT
#106
Great initiative, well done TL Strategy Team and gl
ephemere
Kurbz
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia88 Posts
March 04 2013 22:23 GMT
#107
Super excited, can't wait to see more guides!
Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
March 04 2013 22:36 GMT
#108
totally awesome
"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
evoli
Profile Joined May 2010
United States333 Posts
March 04 2013 22:49 GMT
#109
Great timing with Heart of the Swarm around the corner. The image used the header makes me weak at the knees.
General Manager for EG // twitter.com/gosutrolling
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
March 04 2013 23:22 GMT
#110
Thanks for the shoutout This is a really great and hardworking group of people, and we're delighted that you're delighted. Or at least I am ^^
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
March 05 2013 00:10 GMT
#111
Amazing idea guys, it'll take work but definitely worth it. I like the selection of zergs you guys picked aswell, lots of guys that are not super amazing gosu, but are seasoned high ranking zergs that are familiar with all the metas possible. Really excited for this, and these guys also have sick guides too, so getting across to audience will be no issue.
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
beetlelisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Poland2276 Posts
March 05 2013 00:22 GMT
#112
On March 05 2013 06:39 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Good timing with HotS, I think this is going to define a large portion of TL as newcomers join the site for HotS

If we are talking about people who have never played any SC, then there may be some but I wouldn't expect a wave of them since HoTS requires WoL. We will see if I'm wrong.
wwww
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 05 2013 01:19 GMT
#113
eh I thought TL bosses come up with some strategy to overcome recent humiliation in SPL -_-
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 03:37 GMT
#114
sexy!
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
March 05 2013 05:22 GMT
#115
TL is phyco and I'm a fan
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
March 05 2013 08:16 GMT
#116
Yeaahhhhhhhh

So awesome.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Gemini_sc2
Profile Joined February 2013
Norway69 Posts
March 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#117
Amazing! Really happy to read this
The previous strategy section was quite lacking here and there, and I really appreciate the time and effort being put into this project, Thank You!
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
March 05 2013 18:54 GMT
#118
omfg this is so exciting. peer reviewed? yausssss. xD
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
March 05 2013 22:51 GMT
#119
This is really cool.

My all-time favorite player is rsvp. Not because he was the best, or funniest, or most entertaining, but because he was the guy helping me get to the next level with his insightful posts in his the Strategy forums, than backing up what he said with a stream with great commentary.

So, I think there is a lot of "return of time" or "return of investment" or whatever for pro players that are willing to contribute to the community by writing about strategy. Written articles were always a huge deal in making celebrities in the magic:the gathering community, where the pro-scene is nowhere near as driven by exposition as in sc2.

Oh, how I miss rsvp's stream... : /
SEKO SEKO SEKO
CenturionSC2
Profile Joined November 2012
United States51 Posts
March 06 2013 01:43 GMT
#120
ty so much!! I wouldn't be far out of silver without the guides on this site. I can now happily say I'm high dia.
This is such an awesome thing thanks to all the people who have/will put in so much hard work. =]
Gogo INnoVatioN and Flash Fightiiiiiing \m/ "(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating." EnumaAvalon
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
March 06 2013 11:30 GMT
#121
sick as!!! :D :D :D ty
padfoota
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Taiwan1571 Posts
March 06 2013 13:42 GMT
#122
OP IS A ZERG
*CRIES*
Stop procrastinating
philphilphil
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany16 Posts
March 06 2013 18:12 GMT
#123
awesome, thx
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
March 06 2013 18:36 GMT
#124
Really looking forward to Liquipedia updates
starleague forever
anatase
Profile Joined May 2010
France532 Posts
March 06 2013 18:46 GMT
#125
long live TL
Long live Innovation and Initiative within TL!
alteredclone
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States110 Posts
March 06 2013 20:58 GMT
#126
love the look of this ^^ go liquid`pathy!
Graphics@alteredclone
Akilleus
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden82 Posts
March 06 2013 21:10 GMT
#127
Sounds awesome! I can't wait for the HotS strategy evolution to begin!
Killcycle
Profile Joined January 2011
United States170 Posts
March 06 2013 22:56 GMT
#128
One big question I have is how this new Strategy Team will handle the rapid deprecation of strategy topics in HotS. We saw this in the WoL beta, where builds were quickly popularized and just as fast made obsolete. One of the mentioned issues with Liquipedia was the outdated information - with how quickly things will change, are there any potential systems or rules in place to handle such guaranteed occurrences?

This is a great initiative. The hope in humanity within me grows. :>
I fear not the shadows of glory nor the echoes of eternity; place before me a true rendition of greatness... and then we shall see.
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
March 06 2013 23:14 GMT
#129
On March 07 2013 07:56 Killcycle wrote:
One big question I have is how this new Strategy Team will handle the rapid deprecation of strategy topics in HotS. We saw this in the WoL beta, where builds were quickly popularized and just as fast made obsolete. One of the mentioned issues with Liquipedia was the outdated information - with how quickly things will change, are there any potential systems or rules in place to handle such guaranteed occurrences?

This is a great initiative. The hope in humanity within me grows. :>

The strategy team on a whole is way more in tune with metagame changes than the Liquipedia crew. One big problem with Liquipedia previously was that its staff and volunteers were not always sure of what was happening in the metagame and as a result couldn't properly make the updates necessary on Liquipedia.
Moderator
Killcycle
Profile Joined January 2011
United States170 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 00:15:07
March 07 2013 00:14 GMT
#130
On March 07 2013 08:14 monk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 07:56 Killcycle wrote:
One big question I have is how this new Strategy Team will handle the rapid deprecation of strategy topics in HotS. We saw this in the WoL beta, where builds were quickly popularized and just as fast made obsolete. One of the mentioned issues with Liquipedia was the outdated information - with how quickly things will change, are there any potential systems or rules in place to handle such guaranteed occurrences?

This is a great initiative. The hope in humanity within me grows. :>

The strategy team on a whole is way more in tune with metagame changes than the Liquipedia crew. One big problem with Liquipedia previously was that its staff and volunteers were not always sure of what was happening in the metagame and as a result couldn't properly make the updates necessary on Liquipedia.


Awesome. What about old guides and threads? Will they be allowed to drift to the bottom of the popularity stack that is the Strategy forum as per the usual, or will they be archived in a special place, perhaps as a snapshot of past metagames?

Or is every guide that passes scrutiny going to be treated as an active work in progress, such that guides wouldn't necessarily be deprecated, rather they'd be continually updated as in the spirit of the PvZ guide?
I fear not the shadows of glory nor the echoes of eternity; place before me a true rendition of greatness... and then we shall see.
Conut
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1026 Posts
March 07 2013 00:27 GMT
#131
I wish i was better at writing so i could help out more =/
Sc2 always got your back
monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
March 07 2013 01:03 GMT
#132
On March 07 2013 09:14 Killcycle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 08:14 monk wrote:
On March 07 2013 07:56 Killcycle wrote:
One big question I have is how this new Strategy Team will handle the rapid deprecation of strategy topics in HotS. We saw this in the WoL beta, where builds were quickly popularized and just as fast made obsolete. One of the mentioned issues with Liquipedia was the outdated information - with how quickly things will change, are there any potential systems or rules in place to handle such guaranteed occurrences?

This is a great initiative. The hope in humanity within me grows. :>

The strategy team on a whole is way more in tune with metagame changes than the Liquipedia crew. One big problem with Liquipedia previously was that its staff and volunteers were not always sure of what was happening in the metagame and as a result couldn't properly make the updates necessary on Liquipedia.


Awesome. What about old guides and threads? Will they be allowed to drift to the bottom of the popularity stack that is the Strategy forum as per the usual, or will they be archived in a special place, perhaps as a snapshot of past metagames?

Or is every guide that passes scrutiny going to be treated as an active work in progress, such that guides wouldn't necessarily be deprecated, rather they'd be continually updated as in the spirit of the PvZ guide?

All old guides are already archived in the recommended guides thread under the historical section. Also, I don't think it's viable/we have the manpower to keep every single of our featured guides updated. Maybe one day, with an absurd amount of high level volunteers.
Moderator
Zamiel
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States211 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 05:57:43
March 07 2013 05:56 GMT
#133
Just now I was considering fixing some things in the PvZ guide over on Liquipedia, but then I realized that those changes wouldn't be reflected in the TL-version of the guide.

This brings up the greater question:

When a thread is Liquipedia-ized, since it is on a wiki, it will grow to be updated and ultimately inconsistent with the "original" guide. Such inconsistencies are undesirable. One possible solution that comes immediately to mind would be to lock the respective forum thread once a guide actually makes the transition to Liquipedia.

What are the thoughts from the staff members for TL/LP on this?
"Mech is at the store buying groceries and you attack him at home. You burn his house down. And then he comes home and puts out the fire, and then you burn down the grocery store so he can't buy more groceries."
xwoGworwaTsx
Profile Joined April 2012
United States984 Posts
March 07 2013 16:21 GMT
#134
Excellent thread. But this could use some more organizing.

Maybe do it by race so that you have a nice umbrella!
damahammer
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany111 Posts
June 19 2013 21:23 GMT
#135
any updates on how far you guys have come?
It's a couple of months since Hots release now^^
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