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On May 19 2009 14:45 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 14:41 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:38 Ace wrote:On May 19 2009 14:36 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:34 Ace wrote:On May 19 2009 14:32 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:29 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:27 Tricode wrote:On May 19 2009 14:22 Incognito wrote:On May 19 2009 14:16 Tricode wrote:
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If he was traitor then how would he get them killed? That would mean he found a mafia member, which i don't know how good you have to be to find someone that is mafia and tell them with out the worry of accidentally telling a person who is not mafia and blowing your traitor r/c cover. What??? Well this was in response to Ver so maybe you got confused since Ace posted right before me? Anyway I meant that Ver is likely traitor the way he's playing now. If he were mafia, this is quite frankly poor play. But if he were traitor, it would make sense. I'm not saying he told anyone he is traitor. But presumably Ver could have planned to get Ace killed (by the mafia) by killing off the BGs. BGs are dead, so both Ver and Ace can be night killed. Then both our elected town offices are down the drain, and Ace is dead (if he is town). Ver would also be dead, but it doesn't matter since he doesnt affect mafia KP. He would have wasted the two days for the town to eliminate him and thrown the town into chaos. Using L's terms, its a good risk to reward ratio isnt it? Nice play my friend. *edit...apparently the ":" sign before the "r" makes some weird smiley? The traitor thing doesn't make sense! Unless Traitor's role changed since the last time i looked at it. He can't kill people. He would have to mafia do it for him. *sigh* He doesn't actually kill Ace he just allows Ace to be killed by the mafia. Since now there's no more BG protection .........i dont know what you are trying to qoute for or sighing about. I think there is some miss communication between us. /facepalm and you were doing so well too I might have just missed something. All i am saying is, Ver can't be traitor if you saying he offed his BG's. That would mean he found a mafia that trusted he was actually a traitor and trusted him and avoided talking to a townie who figured out he was traitor through pms or w/e. Point is, if Ver helped cause these deaths, then he is mafia. Though i think it could be possible luck what happened. But Traitor to me seems unlikely. Almost, but you still forgot one scenario: Ver isn't a traitor - he's mafia. What? Why wouldn't he off his BGs as a traitor? He could just be attempting to make mass chaos. And he did say that if he were traitor he would make mass chaos. uh...I didn't say he wouldnt.
I was trying to answer Tricode there but quoted you oops.
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On May 19 2009 14:47 Vivi57 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 14:46 Caller wrote:On May 19 2009 14:45 Vivi57 wrote:On May 19 2009 14:43 Incognito wrote:
Explanation: Assume Ver is traitor. He makes chaos. He somehow finds the roles of his bodyguards. He kills them and then assumes that the mafia will off Ace as well. That's just so unlikely. you're saying ver *somehow* got the roles of his bodyguards *then* found a mafia to pm them to all to make a plan to kill ace? If killing ace was the plan, 3 hits on ace the first night would have gotten him anyway (assuming no med prot) er, ace had bg protection lol wait, wouldn't it have gone bg bg ace if 3 were stacked?
I still think that mafia hitting both BGs was more luck than skill. But I guess that it might have worked out like that, yeah. That would require crazy analysis though.
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Vivi, that 3 hits shit you just said: dunce cap.
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On May 19 2009 14:48 L wrote:
Vivi, that 3 hits shit you just said: dunce cap.
this kind of ad hominem is not helping...
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this kind of ad hominem is not helping.. Did you read what he wrote? That's not how the game's rules work. All night actions happen at the exact same time. All of them work. You can't kill a vig in order to prevent his hit, nor can a vig drop the kp of mafia to reduce the amount of kills that happen. Medics can't be killed to remove their protection during that night.
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On May 19 2009 14:54 L wrote: Did you read what he wrote? That's not how the game's rules work. All night actions happen at the exact same time. All of them work. You can't kill a vig in order to prevent his hit, nor can a vig drop the kp of mafia to reduce the amount of kills that happen. Medics can't be killed to remove their protection during that night.
even so, calling him a dunce cap isn't productive here. You're discouraging people from posting if all you are going to do is flame... Right now we need all the voices we can get.
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If people are posting stupid shit, they deserve to be called on it. You'd think caller would understand calling someone out.
And don't fucking pull the activity card on me of all people.
That said:
VOTE FOR A DOUBLE LYNCH
there is no reason to wait and let potential mafia kills get away from us. More lynches means more reduction of KP means more success.
Once people agree to that, I have a few more things to say.
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I mean, you'd think someone named caller would know about calling people out.
HAHA ITS A JOKE :D.
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On May 19 2009 15:03 L wrote:
If people are posting stupid shit, they deserve to be called on it. You'd think caller would understand calling someone out.
And don't fucking pull the activity card on me of all people.
That said:
VOTE FOR A DOUBLE LYNCH
there is no reason to wait and let potential mafia kills get away from us. More lynches means more reduction of KP means more success.
Once people agree to that, I have a few more things to say.
I'm down for a double lynch. Let's lynch Ace and Ver shall we? ;D
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On May 19 2009 15:03 L wrote:
I mean, you'd think someone named caller would know about calling people out.
HAHA ITS A JOKE :D.
oh you're funny
-_-
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On May 19 2009 15:04 nemY wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 15:03 L wrote:
If people are posting stupid shit, they deserve to be called on it. You'd think caller would understand calling someone out.
And don't fucking pull the activity card on me of all people.
That said:
VOTE FOR A DOUBLE LYNCH
there is no reason to wait and let potential mafia kills get away from us. More lynches means more reduction of KP means more success.
Once people agree to that, I have a few more things to say.
I'm down for a double lynch. Let's lynch Ace and Ver shall we? ;D
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why?
taking down two of our best players and our two leader positions?
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There's a better way to go about lynching, but first i want some people to analyze some clues before I explain it.
If i can make a suggestion: When googling names, be sure to use google.com instead of google.yourcountry.
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On May 19 2009 14:28 nemY wrote:Ugh fine take it for what it's worth please. Show nested quote +Original Message: No, that is not a clue. Red herring! http://sketchedout.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/red-herring_color.jpg----------------------------------------- Original Message: since i'm running out of time, been busy, and haven't receieved much input i'll ask, is "There was no clear horizon separating the star-filled sky and the dark, choppy waters of the Liquia Sea." a clue related to any mafia players? If i had more time and had actually been thinking about it, i'd get a better question. Enjoy.
Hey guys I just realized...IF THIS IS REAL ANOTHER DT HAS THE SAME PIC.
If you are this DT, it is safe to roleclaim to nemY. If you do not have this same pic, nemY is a fraud. I doubt Qatol would send a red herring pic to one DT and not the other. Is my logic flawed here anyone?
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On May 19 2009 15:08 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2009 14:28 nemY wrote:Ugh fine take it for what it's worth please. Original Message: No, that is not a clue. Red herring! http://sketchedout.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/red-herring_color.jpg----------------------------------------- Original Message: since i'm running out of time, been busy, and haven't receieved much input i'll ask, is "There was no clear horizon separating the star-filled sky and the dark, choppy waters of the Liquia Sea." a clue related to any mafia players? If i had more time and had actually been thinking about it, i'd get a better question. Enjoy. Hey guys I just realized...IF THIS IS REAL ANOTHER DT HAS THE SAME PIC. If you are this DT, it is safe to roleclaim to nemY. If you do not have this same pic, nemY is a fraud. I doubt Qatol would send a red herring pic to one DT and not the other. Is my logic flawed here anyone?
if the other dt got the clue right he wouldn't send the red herring pic...
but i'm pretty sure nemy is safe to roleclaim to.
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Oh true. Hmm...well if you did get a red herring pic...
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On May 19 2009 15:10 Incognito wrote:
Oh true. Hmm...well if you did get a red herring pic...
lol
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its not a bad observation. nemy would have had 0 method of finding that pic unless a DT roleclaimed to him previously and then sent him that picture. Given the previous vote, town consensus was that nemy is not a dt or retarded, so its highly unlikely he would give him that picture.
Nemy is close to 99% innocent if the other DT sent that picture, or a similar one.
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Well, as per usual it's time for me to make some accusations based on the limited clue info we have thus far.
I have a general suspect for each of our three killers today.
Mafia A:
+ Show Spoiler +unnoticed until one of them screamed and charged at LucasWoJ. mikeymoo fled from the scuffle as the attacker pulled out a syringe and slammed it into LucasWoJ's right eye. mikeymoo was gone by the time LucasWoJ was fully injected, but he could still hear the brutality even as he fled. The assailant bellowed again and started slamming the now empty syringe into LucasWoJ's face repeatedly until his face caved in and the only sounds left were guttural yells, the squishy impacts, and the sound of blood splatter. Come morning, there would be little above the neck that could identify LucasWoJ's corpse. His unrecognizable face and shattered teeth would be no help to the authorities, but his fingerprints were sufficient. Suspect: InfundibulumReasoning: To begin with, the attackers weapon of choice is a syringe which is funnel-shaped, as is an infundibulum. Furthermore, Lucas is stabbed in the eye, of which one section is made up of a bone that contains an infundibulum. Lucas' face then is smashed into a concave shape, which could relate to the giant tuba in Infundibulum's profile. Finally, sounds are a prominent feature in Lucas' death, especially towards the end. While it is not explicitly called music to the killer's ears, it could tie in to Infundibulum's quote: "All the sounds of the Earth are like music". Potential Flaws: If the extreme brutal nature of the Mafia character is a clue, then Infundibulum doesn't fit. Following this, I considered the syringe containing steroids (hyper-aggressive, animalistic being? why not?) but found nobody that fit that, either.
Mafia B:
+ Show Spoiler +Meanwhile, the second intruder, initially transfixed by the brutal killing, suddenly remembered that there was another target and began the hunt. He climbed the stairs and poked his head into each of the bedrooms but couldn't find anyone. After passing the set of curtains with a conspicuous pair of shoes sticking out for the third time, he heard mikeymoo sneeze. He turned around and shot both feet, causing mikeymoo to fall from his hiding place. The man approached the writhing mikeymoo, dropped his gun, and grabbed one of his fingers. He slowly put pressure on it until it snapped and mikeymoo let out a scream that dwarfed any sounds he had made before. The attacker continued until he ran out of fingers upon which time he pulled out a knife and stabbed mikeymoo in the throat. As his life left him, mikeymoo chuckled at the absurdity of the knife solving the problem of his hoarse, sore throat. Suspect A: DreamflowerReasoning: Our killer has a very small attention span or a very limited capability to pay attention to their surroundings, as indicated by their initially being distracted by the first killing as well as passing by Mikeymoo several times before noticing him. A person who is dreaming/daydreaming/sleepwalking (take your pick) would exhibit such a lack of conscious mental processes. Also, the way Mikeymoo ultimately dies may point to Dreamflower's profile quote: "When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." Mikeymoo's problem of his sore throat is solved by his being killed. Potential Flaws: All of the attack excepting the end are not explained in any way. Additionally, there are signs that this Mafia, rather than being easily distracted/unthinking, may be blind/have bad vision. Note that sounds were a focus of the first Mafia's killing, and that the second Mafia member only found Mikeymoo after he sneezed.
Mafia C:
+ Show Spoiler +In a different part of town, Fishball was running for his life. His left arm was hanging uselessly at his side, the result of a blow from the man calmly following him. Fishball finally reached the tool shed behind his house. He started fumbling with the lock in an attempt to get the axe inside. He got the door open in time for a kick from his pursuer to knock him to the floor. Fishball coughed while the other man surveyed the inside of the shed. Having made his selection, the attacker grabbed one of the tools leaning against the inside of the shed and kneeled down next to Fishball.
"This would have been a lot less painful for you if you had faced me like a man. You need to develop a stronger backbone; I am going to help you with that," quipped the hit man.
He then shoved the rake in his hand into Fishball from behind, handle first, as far as he could. He left Fishball flailing on the ground, coming to terms with his newfound confidence but lacking the strength to do anything with it except die. Potential Suspect: VerReasoning: Ver's quote, "[w]hen you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape" speaks of two things that relate to the bolded portion: confidence and rape. Fishball lacked the former, and upon calling him out on that, the killer summons the infamous rape rake to finish the job. All throughout, the killer is essentially dominating Fishball. Also, both of our bodyguards died, and while I feel that this could be coincidence or another party could be guilty, I find it more likely that people would have leaked roles to Ver than to anybody else at this point in the game. And certainly more likely him than any other single, central person. Potential Flaws: If the "calmly" part of the pursuit is a clue, then this does not tie in with Ver. Likewise, if the uselessness of Fishball's left arm is a clue, this also does not tie in with Ver, unless in a convoluted way to the Napoleon quote.
These are by no means absolute accusations, as all of you should well know. More of a foothold for future ideas and to generate discussion about the clues amongst all of this bickering.
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flower pollen makes people sneeze.
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