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On March 04 2024 12:14 Vivax wrote: 0/10 you didn‘t write fanfic where DP sodomized himself This will come at some point no doubt.... on a side note will probably vote for mayor someone I've played with before just because I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I don't know. (I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I know either tbh but ya know...) | ||
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Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors. | ||
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On March 04 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote: This really just sounds like you want no part of actually playing the game Hey at least I'm reading your posts. | ||
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On March 04 2024 12:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Well first off I didn't say pregame I'd vote for Palmar and then change my mind once the game started. Secondly I don't think I've ever been a mayor before. Thirdly I pledge to make my personal lynch a town lynch and will select whoever is the second in votes at the end of the day. Ahh shit this makes so much more sense when it's read as second in votes for lynch not second in votes for Mayor... I thought this was like some 5d chess bait post hence the fisherman comment. | ||
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I think I'm running into the same thing I run into every game where my highly flowing style is being taken (and I mean this with no offence) slightly autistically but I'm not worried about it yet because I don't think mafia is stupid enough to fight me early. | ||
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Yeah I actually thought the same as oats as in I read it being voting for the second mayor candidate which I thought was a power move to stop other people running. | ||
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On March 04 2024 12:48 DarthPunk wrote: Not sure, its a whole lot of words about not much at all. I certainly don't want him to be mayor, any rate. Both mayoral candidates have been underwhelming thus far Wait you've forgotten about me! Also MZ sure trusting no one person but if it's like 16 /5 and you trust yourself it's now 15/5 is that better odds than day one second town lynch? Actually probably not and it at least gets someone town doesn't like gone but in your own words defend yourself! | ||
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On March 04 2024 13:07 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Trfel or Jacob I'm curious if this stood out to either of you guys. Especially in light of DP seemingly backing off Oats a bit To be honest no I wasn't paying attention to previous game meta as I wasn't watching it if they were both heavly involved so I've just been half filtering it out as vibes. This said thinking about it now I think it would be strange for mafia dp to get vivax and be like hey lets both at the same time back off or go on oats with the same reasoning so I think it's a conicidence. | ||
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On March 04 2024 13:16 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Yeah like I said in my response to trfel I think I had my D1 tinfoil hat on a bit too tight but it was just really weird reading very similar posts back to back. ahh he's on the ropes and back peddling now! :p I have no reference point for you and how you play though. | ||
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On March 04 2024 14:23 Alakaslam wrote: PM are allowed in this game? I was unaware. No that's the OP quote pm Grack the votes. | ||
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It's totally within DP's Meta to be question presuring and smug but as I said before I'm not going to think about him for a good while otherwise we'll get another JSL v TTT event. Slam is interesting. I'm using all my power to not instantly Cheziu vote them. Ray always seems like the most reasonable person ever to me but this might be because I don't think I've ever been in a ray scum game. This said I would vote for them for Mayor behind myself. Cake Cop's gender identity has thrown my read of them entirely off which is strange I didn't realise it would do that I'll have to start reading them again. I'm not sure who it was but someone came into the thread and was like hey three pages and no votes bah but then in the vote thread doesn't seem to have voted either. | ||
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I mean it's not exactly wrong. I like it tbh, but it is an easy thing to do though and I haven't got much of an impression apart from that yet. You and DP do like a lot of "why" game play which is good but have you ever got into a why loop with dp the way cake cop just did? What are your thoughts about that? (when able know you're at work) | ||
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On March 04 2024 19:42 CopCake wrote: Btw Jacob, I am interested how my Gender changed your view on me? To be honest I have no idea, as someone who is genderfluid myself it's kinda confusing me and I don't like that it did. | ||
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On March 04 2024 20:13 JacobStrangelove wrote: To be honest I have no idea, as someone who is genderfluid myself it's kinda confusing me and I don't like that it did. As in I don't like how it effected my preconception. You seem alright if stubborn when running into DP but DP is stubborn when running into anyone so I can see that. | ||
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On March 04 2024 20:36 ToTheStars wrote: I don't think it's fair to say that I posted and then disappeared. I am not going to be playing mafia all day long. Don't expect me to post more than like 5-10 posts per 10-20 pages. Also I am not used to games with over 20 players so I'm likely going to put minimal effort until day 4 or 5, or whenever we get to a more manageable number of players (I'd say 11 living players is when I start really thriving). I'm a he btw (because I saw somebuddy ask). And I voted trfel because I didn't like their entrance. It felt a bit off tone-wise, like fake maybe. I am not even close to being convinced they are mafia, but where I come from you use votes to apply pressure, which allows you to develop reads better. I don't really have a grasp on the game right now or on the style of mafia you play here, so 90% of what has been posted so far sounds completely irrelevant to anyone's alignment, and tbh I'm kinda grasping at straws to have any sort of read (and still end up with extremely weak reads). But yes, I am gonna vote my weak scumread because if a wagon starts then I could use the way other players engage with it to start having more reads. Just fyi you have to vote in the seperate voting thread. | ||
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You know I'm good to back Ray for Mayor. Did say he always seems town to me so best option so far. | ||
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On March 04 2024 23:26 Vivax wrote: Moving Oats to town. I thought he spammed too much at the time and his question to the host felt like something he could have done in PM land but the fact he felt the same way about JS looking scummish early probably means we think more alike than not. So I‘m at: Town: DP, Rayn, Oats, TTS Good nulls : Marv Null/need to read more: MZ, cop, Slam Bad nulls: VE, Sandroba Mafia: Trfel Okay I'll just open up replies of interest from when I was sleeping and then combine them all later it might look a bit discombobulated. Do you still think I'm scummish? If so where am I on the list? On March 04 2024 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't understand the case Vivax, can you sum it up? Yeah I'm not seeing Sando being bad from this either she was like exactly I changed my mind. Seemed town in play as far as I could tell. (following up with later posts sando being in mason with marv and not being seen as scum by marv is also good) On March 05 2024 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Koshi is trying too hard to do his “I’m so town look at me stuff” I also did get this impression a bit but I might be biased by last game Koshi being mafia, speaking of I voted for him to see if he got pouty about it. Which they did a very small amount but not sure if alignment indicitive nessesarally. (follow up now that I've read to page 55 both my very slight town reads are voting VE and then Rayn just started mentioning voting VE so I would be happy to "sheep", that said I wasn't super impressed but I know I have a massive cognative bais against Koshi. On March 05 2024 02:13 Vivax wrote: I have been thinking a bit about it and believe that the benefits outweigh the drawbacks of me claiming Jailkeeper on D1. That‘s basically the only reason I want to be mayor. I think that with half the day over we‘re far enough in the phase to have gathered who else was keen on the mayor spot without having the role to justify it. Honestly wtf how? On March 05 2024 02:46 sandroba wrote: Vivax is prob role-blocked and killed however now if not elected. If elected we are probably tying up a possible rb on him forever. Either way we lost one protective role for town, but now we have to think about how to minimize the damage or make the best situation out of it. On March 05 2024 02:56 CopCake wrote: I also do not understand the whole vivax is town because he claimed jailkeeper because that is bullshit. Not because the logic of the whole scenario but because I think he is the type of player to be insane enough as mafia to do something like that. Okay I see the logic of tying up a role block forever on him but... if mafia (although I find it almost certain he isn't) I feel like I would prefer a strong town later. On March 05 2024 03:37 iamperfection wrote: Copcake goes up several town tiers for borderline cheating This is kinda fair. On March 05 2024 04:03 CopCake wrote: I think that Vivax is angry because he claimed and he might lose mayor so he is going to die at night. And if he doesnt die, then he fake claimed. Because why would mafia lose an opportunity like that, right? I don't feel mafia vivax would do this without this much pressure like don't get me wrong that's actually a play I can see someone making or... I could see someone convinced into by their scum team but I don't know if they would have used jailkeeper for that claim and also what about counterclaim risks as mafia? No I think vivax is town. On March 05 2024 04:11 Koshi wrote: It bothers me that marv kinda forced the sandroba read on us because "mason stuff". Really bad going forward to approach it like that. Ehh was already reading sandro as pretty town. Think the mason hate is weird. Anyway will disapear again until I catch up from page 55 | ||
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On March 05 2024 05:15 Vivax wrote: What is this the newest issue of modern grandma Found this really funny, not helpful I know but I like it. On March 05 2024 05:32 DarthPunk wrote: I don’t think Rayn is outside of his scum range btw. What is Rayn's Scum range I probably need to know. On March 05 2024 05:38 Vivax wrote: We don't even know what marv is. Besides, why shouldn't he? It's like you think masoning marv is equal to running naked and heavily armed into a military encampment. I mean if Marv was town quite possibly but not for a player like Ray who while I've only seen the town play but I know it's strong and strong early which is why if town being mayor would be an advantage compared to say dp who's town game is only strong later. On March 05 2024 05:57 Vivax wrote: I am waiting for JS to offer a behind the scenes picture of what‘s really happening in that marv sandro rayn masonry After a day like this my night post is going to be glorious. On March 05 2024 06:06 Koshi wrote: page 36 and too angry to continue. But town: iamp cuz town best time was in the first pages and he was a driving factor. dp: I wrote 'good interpretation of DP vs Oats' but that seems incorrect. That being said. I don't dislike your copcake stuff but I haven't read it because it doesn't spark anything in me. I am pretty sure I read copcake really good of one of her first posts in a previous game because she backtracked on a story after being called out. So I am waiting on her to fuck up. She is just playing a different game as me here, but not in a bad way. Vivax I like him MZ Ugly posts, but I can see him being town and him finding his way Null Oats Mafia DMB because bad start TheNewGuy because I don't like that entrance Tfrel because reasoning given. Too safe. marv because he can die Okay are you avoiding me specifically or really have no opinion even a null one? On March 05 2024 06:16 Palmar wrote: Pretty scummy, I pledge to make my personal lynch a scum lynch. Much better platform. This is funny and as marv says funny palmer is mafia. On March 05 2024 06:54 DarthPunk wrote: I think Koshi is super townie here. Also I am going to unvote cake. ##unvote WHY what? *takes deep breath and decides not to tunnel DP again. Would you be able to explain why you are unvoting cake please. On March 05 2024 07:46 DarthPunk wrote: Does anyone know why rayn thinks I am mafia? I mean after seeing you unvote cake... On March 05 2024 07:56 DarthPunk wrote: How is he getting more power? He is just immune to night kill, if he was getting a double vote for the rest of the game that is a different story. Having our jailkeeper with night kill immunity is really fucking powerful, at worst it soaks a rb for the rest of the game, at best it is just literally broken. It puts mafia in all sorts of uncomfortable positions where they are fucked if the RB gets lynched or shot. The vig shot or whatever can be negotiated, but I don't think vivax is bad as town regardless, and he is basically confirmed town. Why would I roll the dice on anyone who is NOT confirmed town. Rayn, marv and sandro are NOT confirmed town. This said good looking post, as sad as it is maybe it's worth keeping vivax alive. I did like him before he roll claimed tbh seemed townish which is why it baffled me all the more that he felt presured enough to claim. On March 05 2024 08:01 marvellosity wrote: You miss my point. You elect a nut job who kills stupid people or makes stupid decision. Or you elect someone v likely town who might actually hit mafia, and In case you elected mafia after all you can still lynch them later But I can also see this point as well. Difficult.... I'm conflicted right now. | ||
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On March 05 2024 09:12 DarthPunk wrote: Jake do you still need me to talk about the cake unvote? I may have missed the reasoning I did start skimming even faster for the last 10 pages | ||
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On March 05 2024 09:16 marvellosity wrote: Maybe I just think it’s really bad and lacking in reading comprehension. Will revisit another time. I mean not going to lie I don't see the problem but I'm glad you do. | ||
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On March 05 2024 09:26 marvellosity wrote: You managed to misunderstand my very short case on palmar too. And the rest was meh. Like I said, I just think you’re smarter than that post. Not sure if it means you’re mafia. Reports of my inteligence have been greatly exaggerated. I mean I am in the worst part of a cold right now hopefully it'll improve. | ||
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On March 05 2024 09:23 Koshi wrote: Rels is playing so good. Isn't he normally a guy who gathers a lot of votes on him as town and then comes back near EoD and tries to defend himself and fail? I know he can play good. But mostly if he is left alone till later. He upsets me but I don't know why. Koshi I'm liking you more tbh but can you comment at all on your thoughts on me or are you specifically avoiding me for some reason? | ||
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On March 05 2024 09:36 Koshi wrote: 6) Trfel 8) Jealous 10) Palmar 15) Hapahauli 18) ToTheStars Those are all good options to shoot or lynch into. Personally I need to work out 1) raynpelikoneet 20) Rels People like JLS, MZ, CC, Mebaby are not lynchable today imo I would kinda agree minus Trfel, for all the discussion on him nothing has really stuck for me. Could be information overload though. I think it'll be easier when there's less people in the thread. I like DMB not so sure on CC and MZ but probably not much point on an early lynch on mz (could lynch cop but they're active enough if they are scum it'll be revealed more later. I'm also thinking we don't lynch VE as it is true VE always dies early as town so. | ||
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On March 05 2024 09:39 Vivax wrote: Trfel, Oats, CC, Palmar, rayn would be my main sussy pool and Palmar is just me throwing trust at marv for now. The auxiliary pool consists of JS, MZ, marv atm. I liked JS posts though, but pockety. ![[image loading]](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/79/d1/f1/79d1f1c6bf3aa3158dd617625f7d21b6.jpg) | ||
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On March 04 2024 12:19 Trfel wrote: Seems like an easy way to avoid the responsibility of the results of said lynch, no? And I don't understand why saying pregame that you would vote for Palmar and then changing your mind is a reason we should make you mayor? I liked this, no fluff beyond the first post straight into it with two questions. On March 04 2024 12:25 Trfel wrote: I don't think the second wagon is a "town lynch" at all. In fact there's a decent likelihood that the second wagon would be pushed by mafia, no? I also agreed with this top two wagons has basically always been town in games i've played. basically his entire first page filter seems town ish this is where it kinda goes ary. On March 04 2024 13:20 Trfel wrote: I'm actually going to double down and say that I think Meapak_Ziphh is town. Thus, I'm very surprised that he seems to be your top scumread, DarthPunk. but in the sense doubling down on calling someone town doesn't seem like mafia play. It's ironically too suspicious. Like not having scum reads and seeing everyone as town is kinda how mafia is (despite it being the basis of my entire town play) Admitedly his second page of his filter peters out a bit he's mostly commeting on other people in mild ways but to me it seems the entire reason people would even consider him mafia is based on past play which I've never experienced. I'm not seeing anything obviously jump out at me as being mafia play. | ||
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On March 05 2024 09:47 DarthPunk wrote: Why are you implying my cake read was a meta case when it wasn't. This said the Cop case def wasn't meta. Not to make associations early but this would imply oats and CC are mafia together right? If so what's stronger the initial case that Cake is the mafia and oats is defending her or Oats being mafia and just flip flopping for no reason? Still think it would make more sense from your perpsective to be voting cake. | ||
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On March 05 2024 10:03 Koshi wrote: For me, everything tfrel says to MZ is just plain logic. He is right that killing the second wagon is easy, he is right that the second wagon is often town. He is having this safe conversation with MZ, who he will eventually not scumread. II feel tfrel is showing activity on a safe topic as mafia. While town!tfrel would be more likely to be out there finding mafia and sticking his neck out. He was more townie for me in the previous game because he was more involved, more in the spotlight. This game he isn't doing that, and I don't like that. This is fair, it is very safe play. Particuarly with it petering out. as someone reading it without any meta knowledge it didn't look sus but I'll take your word for it that it's counter meta. Oh also Unvote Koshi btw that was mostly a vote to see if I could rile you up tbh | ||
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On March 05 2024 10:14 Koshi wrote: tfrel first page 1 game ago: https://tl.net/forum/mafia/618165-winter-warfare-mafia?user=Trfel You know this is quite different. @Trifle Why is your play different this game out of curiosity? | ||
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On March 05 2024 11:02 Grackaroni wrote: Day One Vote Count Mayor Vivax (6): raynpelikoneet (3): JacobStrangelove, Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster Koshi (1): Not Voting (10): With 6 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected! Lynch Oatsmaster (3) : Vivax, VisceraEyes, DarthPunk ToTheStars (3): Rels, CopCake, JacobStrangelove Palmar (3) : marvellosity, justanothertownie, Alakaslam VisceraEyes (2): iamperfection, Koshi (2) : DarthPunk (1) : raynpelikoneet raynpelikoneet (0) : CopCake (0): Alakaslam (0) Vivax (0): Not Voting(7): With 3 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched! Let me know if you see any votes misplaced The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in Just for the record koshi has 1 vote on them. @DP who would you prefer mayor vivax shoot second lynch target or one of the lurkers? | ||
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It would be a giga play move for all the mason's to be mafia. That would be really funny. This said I like Sand at the very least. | ||
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That makes perfect sense from town dp? Do you think Scum dp will be like yes we should have a random pile of people some of who are my scum buddies likely then leave it up to chance? He's far to control freak for that. But acknowledging that mafia will likely be able to focus on a not town with statistical chance and a little influence picking a group we dislike and randomly removing one based on "as confirmed town as practical" vivax makes for a higher shot we actually hit a mafia as they can't control the hit as well while still being town choosing. On a side note think I'm finally convinced to mayor Vivax assuming we go by this plan. Mayor Vivax. | ||
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Jealous Hapahauli Full inactive To the stars Just another townie Unfortuanally TL mafia moves a bit faster than this early game. Just based on inactivity. Then we also throw the second highest lynch target on that list as well. Okay now that's settled gonna go back to actually thinking about highest lynch target. | ||
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On March 05 2024 12:15 Vivax wrote: I‘ll track it alright. Just put it into the voting thread. But I‘m not doing JAT. That would be impartial because he hates me since forever and I need that eternal grudge component extracted to properly evaluate his intentions. Oooh can we do that will Grack get mad? What's JAT is this an acronym? | ||
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On March 05 2024 12:34 Alakaslam wrote: Anakin Skywalker would like a word with you Ahh damn I was saving that for if she had a heel turn. | ||
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On March 05 2024 12:35 Rels wrote: Meh. I'm too tired to catch up. Read page 70 and realized I hadn't really read it. Will finish tomorrow At this point catching up is only semi important maybe better to just enter thread and go at some point. | ||
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OMG you're right everyone vote Die baby she made a list post must be scum. xD *your fears are coming true* I think apart from extreme paranoia about list posting die baby seems to be making town like actions consistant with her meta. | ||
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On March 05 2024 13:47 CopCake wrote: Dude you think I am mafia and you are literally voting for the same person I am lynching? Please stop blending in peoples opinions about me and get to your own conclusions. You are also another person out of character. The first game i read from you, you were funny. Here you are acting as if you were walking on toes trying not to make a sound. It's a parked vote didn't remember you had voted them at the time, why? Are you afraid they'll be lynched? Did you try and get away with early voting your scum buddy early and it's now scary? I see a deflection case here you think it'll be easy to lynch me to save yourself. I could cover old ground but the reasons you seem scummy are just in the thread. DP's case you havent held up to the preasure very well. The reason for not voting you are purely semantic activity based. You'll only turn more red the more you post if you are part of the evil british army! Oh wait yeah it was the british with red coats in the Napoleonic era huh.... I guess I can be American.... | ||
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On March 05 2024 14:20 CopCake wrote: I obvs one game with him, he is a wild person that posts a lot of gay stuff. The whole rayn/sandro/marv is a perfect scenario for his gay scenario fan fiction and is not happening. I know that sounds stupid but it is REALLY how he posted that game as town. Oh don't worry the gay stuff is my night posting. While obsíng you probably didn't notice the time difference it's coming... just with such a long page day one and having to manage mayor election mayor kill lynch all on day one I suprisingly am showing restraint and not shitting up the thread worse. | ||
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On March 05 2024 14:32 CopCake wrote: Jacob, how my gender changed your view on me? What was your original view? Then what about my gender made you change? Oh, initially I was wondering if you were mafia or like maleish stubborn into DP but more likely mafia but then I realised you were femaleish stubborn into DP and it initially made more sense because I'm more used to women having that type of reaction to DP. (ahh there's a joke here...) But then once your stubborness continued to be suspicious you didn't back down in a way that could either be REALLY subborn or mafia refusing to back out out of fear of looking like you were trying to hide. | ||
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I am not mafia and I'll go as far to be more specific and claim not traitor. | ||
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On March 05 2024 15:28 Oatsmaster wrote: Why was traitor on your mind enough to say it? Seems very odd You can't just say "no" to DP he'll be too paranoid about that and take it as a challenge  | ||
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On March 05 2024 15:41 Oatsmaster wrote: I mean like take me through your thought process Okay so DP just straight asks me are you mafia. and I'm like No. Shit I'm chosing to not be JSL vs DP paranoid fight this game but he isn't if I just say no he'll react strange and be like hmm what about not mafia but not town roles like traitor hmm I guess I'll say I'm town aligned because he'll see that and be like huh JSL is being weird again that's normalish But that looks strange to other people, so I decided how about I just claim not Traitor immeditally. This does two things. It has Mafia see it and go oooh someone mentioned traitor, and town goes oooh that's different and then the speculation happens as to should mafia choose me and then I've wasted their traitor vote vs specifically not claiming traitor and allowing them to find traitor easier by not voting me. Tbh I probably should have thought about the implications more before doing it but fuck it we ball at least I didn't claim Jailkeeper (I'm sorry vivax I love you and you know what maybe it'll all work out and it'll be the best claim ever) | ||
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Also lets talk palmer. I'm good on Sandro, Marv I'm kinda ehh on but marv and sandro are in mason and ray who I was also good on vouches for marv in their mason. JAT I'm not sure, not super active Alakaslam is kinda just vibing out also in that I'm reading nullish. Are you planning on posting more Palmer because you are top lynch target right now? If so what time of day? | ||
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On March 05 2024 16:00 CopCake wrote: You should convince people to lynch me I'm not sure if you noticed through all the OMGUS but I actually had you in the section of ehh I don't like you but I don't want to lynch active person day one because if red it'll be super obvious as time goes on and if not red the activity will mean this will come clear. | ||
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I should but I'm too tired after work while sick to actually go filter diving and my partner is saying "I must give them attention" so I'll just vibe post it. 1) raynpelikoneet Town although has gone quiet after the whole Vivax vs him as Mayor thing could be sleeping. 2) Oatsmaster I thought he was fixated on dumb early but I didn't think much of it. I thought it would be unusual given my reputation to attack me early if he was Mafia. Not that I'm good early but I've been pretty attack dog high volume doesn't die poster. 3) DarthPunk DP has cast a spell on me and I have turned into his little sheep dog no questions, this said he sounds super reasonable and even if he was mafia he would still be making the "right town plays" in terms of decision making so I'm not worried. 4) Vivax Super town now, I haven't pinned Vivax as the one to make the hero play (as mafia) 5) sandroba Seems reasonable and logical tbh 6) Trfel As above with sand however as pointed out by others meta is different and has kinda slipped away quietly for a while. 7) marvellosity I said this before in my other posts I can't read marv early and is backed by two masons right now. 8) Jealous Dislike inactive 9) Meapak_Ziphh get the same vibes as koshi where it's sort of been a whirlwind of activity around them I can't actually place once the dust settles 10) Palmar Yet to see any legendary behaviour 11) justanothertownie Just another lurker 12) die_meatbaby I like dmb just the vibe is right from last game when they were town. 13) CopCake Like the "Cheating" stuff is kinda townish but I did get the impression that at least someone is being supicious of vivax because "it's what town would do" not because they actually are. I guess my strongest mafia read based on evidence while having that nagging feeling of being wrong. 14) JacobStrangelove Seems like your standard chug along until day 3 town player where things become more clear. 15) Hapahauli Hapabout a post 16) Iamperfection I didn't like iamp's style until his list post then it redeemed him a bit. 17) Koshi See Meapak, only addition is they didn't jump on my bait but also last time they did as mafia did not go well. (although that was potentially unrelated) 18) ToTheStars Possibly understandably overwhelmed by the filter but I almost can't blame them but at the same time as a policy/Mayor hit feel fine with it. 19) VisceraEyes Similar to my weird stance on DP this game have almost decided to policy not lynch VE 20) Rels Hasn't raised suspicions 21) Alakaslam A less chaotic chaos player (out of the chezuinu and other style players) don't have a read just gonna null for now. Maybe slightly town. Yeah I guess in hindsight I don't have many mafia reads early. After a hit rate of 0 until late game every game though I have decided to be less aggressive. I tend to like to find who's most town then from then who's least coherently town to find the mafia rather than finding the suspicious behaviour outright as I keep jumping on shadows. | ||
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On March 05 2024 18:00 CopCake wrote: To the stars read, have said this several times. 😑 besides other actions. I think just the to the stars case of voting him instead of me and here saying he is more town says he actually have no reads. Oh yeah you dislike me voting TTS because you were voting them but whoopde doo you aren't voting them anymore as soon as they started to get more than one or two votes. I'm aware my voting patterns are tilting you right now and I don't particuarly care. | ||
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On March 05 2024 18:03 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah this is a good point . Vote:Jacobstrangelove Why you not voting for your top scum read Jake? Again this is going to be the fourth time I've answered this. But to make it clear. I'm happier voting a lurker player than an active player because if they stay active it'll be obvious they are mafia later and we can vote them out. If they stay lurking it won't be obvious what role they are later. I've said it here. On March 05 2024 16:11 JacobStrangelove wrote: I'm not sure if you noticed through all the OMGUS but I actually had you in the section of ehh I don't like you but I don't want to lynch active person day one because if red it'll be super obvious as time goes on and if not red the activity will mean this will come clear. here On March 05 2024 09:41 JacobStrangelove wrote: I would kinda agree minus Trfel, for all the discussion on him nothing has really stuck for me. Could be information overload though. I think it'll be easier when there's less people in the thread. I like DMB not so sure on CC and MZ but probably not much point on an early lynch on mz (could lynch cop but they're active enough if they are scum it'll be revealed more later. I'm also thinking we don't lynch VE as it is true VE always dies early as town so. and I thought somewhere else maybe I haven't. tldr they are my top scum read but going by my day one track record I should just inverse my reads every time and I don't have confidence in myself. This said if it is really a sticking point I don't have any issues voting them either. Just I like policy vote the lurker votes. | ||
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The case on JSL On March 04 2024 12:09 JacobStrangelove wrote: I can chat also around. This said I'm going to act as if you're never mafia (unless you paint yourself red and dance in the blood of your enemies in the street) as this does two things. it stops me from tunneling you to death and being scared of losing to you and saves my ego if you are mafia and win because I decided to not focus on you at the start. This is extremely sus. Jacob has never been known to put his ego aside and risk losing to either DP or TTT. On March 04 2024 12:13 JacobStrangelove wrote: Trfel is mafia doesn't know it's his birthday, very sus.... implies he lied when joining. :p Fluff posting On March 04 2024 12:16 JacobStrangelove wrote: This will come at some point no doubt.... on a side note will probably vote for mayor someone I've played with before just because I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I don't know. (I don't trust my day one reads on anyone I know either tbh but ya know...) On March 04 2024 12:21 JacobStrangelove wrote: @oats I'm not my reads only come good at like day 4 (in small games cause I suck) I might be better off with a randomiser until then. Because he's a fisherman. Fishermen make the best Mayors. Wishy washy has no faith in himself to come up with reads. Setting up to be non committal day 1 On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote: Ahh shit this makes so much more sense when it's read as second in votes for lynch not second in votes for Mayor... I thought this was like some 5d chess bait post hence the fisherman comment. Intentionally misreads Meapak to drum up activity On March 04 2024 12:27 JacobStrangelove wrote: This said if you make me Mayor I WILL vote for the second in Mayor votes just because that seems very funny. More Fluff and not funny Town JSL is funny. On March 04 2024 12:30 JacobStrangelove wrote: I think I'm running into the same thing I run into every game where my highly flowing style is being taken (and I mean this with no offence) slightly autistically but I'm not worried about it yet because I don't think mafia is stupid enough to fight me early. Implies mafia won’t attack him early to discourage town for attacking him early. Ahh wait that’s technically hmm that doesn’t work actually On March 04 2024 12:50 JacobStrangelove wrote: Wait you've forgotten about me! Also MZ sure trusting no one person but if it's like 16 /5 and you trust yourself it's now 15/5 is that better odds than day one second town lynch? Actually probably not and it at least gets someone town doesn't like gone but in your own words defend yourself! I wrote it and I’m not even sure what this shit was about. On March 04 2024 13:00 JacobStrangelove wrote: Well as someone who also didn't know how the game worked (mayor election/voting for mayor) I didn't talk about the stuff I didn't know about until I went back and read the op and it was brought up and I am a classic case of just ask so I think there is some credence to being sceptical of a precice player just going disco and throwing questions when there are answers if you look into the thread. After all this never really pressured oats master very much. On March 04 2024 13:16 JacobStrangelove wrote: OMG JSL Trfel and I am perf must be scum team they all decided to say the same thing at the same time. Omg even says he’s part of the scum team must be mafia. On March 04 2024 13:24 JacobStrangelove wrote: yeah DMB's big post did seem kinda odd. I don't know why yet though. Just didn't seem like them. Then again it didn't seem like mafia or town them so I'm not sure what that means yet. Says this but then flip flips on DMB later On March 04 2024 22:14 JacobStrangelove wrote: oh also going to vote Koshi just because will explain later when I wake up. Pushes random lynches seeing what will stick. Okay tbh I kinda petered out at this point. | ||
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Nice! Can you describe why it's not good. Or are you just throwing out random comments as you're top on lynch list and looking for an easy exit? | ||
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If you sum up all of his posts you just get basically a list thread as shit or shitter as mine. So... what's the deal with that. Make a case on me at least. Explain why people should vote for me. | ||
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On March 05 2024 18:33 DarthPunk wrote: I’m not really sure how to take that Jake. Which part! From my perspective you have a few Senarios You're Mafia DP and for some reason out of nowhere town JSL has decided to sheep you so he's an idiot but a useful idiot for now no point lynching him. You're town DP and for some reason out of nowhere town JSL has decided to sheep you so he's an idiot but a useful idiot so no point in lynching him. Your town DP and for some reason out of nowhere mafia JSL has decided to sheep you so... he's an idiot but a useful idiot so no point in lynching him? I guess for the others... DP is mafia DP and for some reason out of nowhere mafia JSL has decided to obviously hard sheep him so late game that's going to be really sus or something. | ||
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On March 05 2024 18:35 DarthPunk wrote: Why did you decide to not worry about me this game Jake? And why did you not say that before roles went out? Sometimes my genius takes time to come to the surface. I simply didn't think of it before and I mean... before roles went out I didn't know I was town. Had I rolled mafia I wouldn't want to sheep you that would be mad suspicious. Also arrogance. if we're both alive late game and you're mafia I rekon I can beat you. | ||
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On March 05 2024 18:38 JacobStrangelove wrote: Sometimes my genius takes time to come to the surface. I simply didn't think of it before and I mean... before roles went out I didn't know I was town. Had I rolled mafia I wouldn't want to sheep you that would be mad suspicious. To elaborate I am invincible as town. (in my head) I can do whatever the fuck I want and survive because fundementally at the end of the day I'm not mafia. | ||
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On March 05 2024 19:00 justanothertownie wrote: Do you really think that's the play here? Or are you just being lazy? I think mafia is super happy with Vivax being the guy they cannot shoot instead of someone who can actually lead lynches on them. People here put too much stock in roles and not enough in playing the game imo. But I would expect you not to. I would much prefer you being obv town and going for mayor. Why is Marv obvious town over say Ray? | ||
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On March 05 2024 19:14 justanothertownie wrote: He isn't that's the whole issue. Both aren't. Oh fair. that does make sense, imo it doesn't make sense to fight super hard for Mayor. If there was someone known for having an amazing town read game and a terrible scum game then it would be optimal but I think most people here are good at both or not performing this game so. | ||
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Palmer does look much better simply by the fact he's active now if he survives lynch and goes inactive again I'll be suspicious but happy to not vote him right now. Also he likes me now for some reason so he's pulling a reverse omgus on me. Vivax why do you hate slam so much, I mean it took me a while but the cop claim, lets not shoot the cop claim straight away because if we find more blues later then sure maybe it's fake but whatever you do please don't shoot him with your vote. Okay thoughts on the marv v palmer I did like vivax's post about Marv not masoning DP I don't know much about sand but it seems like a safer choice if Marv was mafia? Is there any context as to why Marv would have masoned vivax? Out of the masons I'm liking sand most then Ray then marv. as to who to move vote to JAT has at least been active I'm down for a random town vote switch last minute I'm not sold on Trifle before his last post which was awful but at the same time would a mafia trifle have made such a obviously bad post right before lynch? If anything afkíng until after would have been better I think. | ||
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On March 06 2024 07:43 justanothertownie wrote: I will go to bed in like 10-15 minutes. It is really a shame that marv is not around and playing. While I'm starting to be more sus of him I'm happy to wait to see his activity outside of being in a mason chat. | ||
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On March 06 2024 07:44 Palmar wrote: This is not correct. Sandroba is incredibly good at mafia and if he's town marv masoning him is the most townie thing marv has done this game. They know each other very well and like each other. Okay thanks for the context. I know nothing about Sand good to know. That does help Marvs case to be townie and ironically probably your own as you're defending the guy attacking you. | ||
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On March 06 2024 07:46 Vivax wrote: I know he claimed, but I can think he's mafia in the same breath and just not vote him because he self resolves, in theory. And we know he can't claim perma roleblock since I get that. Okay that's fair as long as you don't shoot him. :p it just seemed you kept saying he was mafia often enough you might do that which when he's as you say self resolving it would be a waste. | ||
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Hapa is an okay kill but I mean I guess if he is mafia they can't push back on it anyway so I guess it's safe with the "random" factor and the random factor threat was more to get people active. | ||
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On March 06 2024 07:52 Vivax wrote: I don't know but I know I want to work with you. Adjusted. same and he's actually here so can freak out before the lynch and give more info. If you don't want to Die JAT give a list post of some sort. | ||
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On March 06 2024 07:58 justanothertownie wrote: Marv, I need to know if Palmar is still the lynch. Asap. No we're on JAT now keep up. | ||
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On March 06 2024 08:00 marvellosity wrote: Vivax is clearly going to be mayor. Jesus typo. You know for a split second there I was changing my vote to you. | ||
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At this point a palmer Lynch is kinda like a cop lynch. Looking back cop has a massive filter which I only see as a good thing. | ||
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Could have totally ridden out this lynch and not contributed but I like you put the effort in last minute. This said I disagree personally on Slam, and Hapa for sure. I think it's more likely to ask for a modkill so you don't impact the scum team who are mad at you than the town who it's like ehh they'll live. | ||
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On March 06 2024 08:34 DarthPunk wrote: Trifle wagon is easier, and his play is scummy. nothing more to it IMO. Mafia are probably bussing or absent at this point, going against these pushes would stand out like a sore thumb. Hmm that's the optimistic outlook. Eitherway glad we did all this vote switching. Should be helpful day 2 | ||
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On March 06 2024 08:43 Palmar wrote: This is just random and for post-game purposes. We actually have like 4 objectively correct lynches (that is correct from a "how to play mafia" perspective). 1) Vivax - All day 1 claimers should be policy lynched without question 2) TTS - Complete inactivity 3) Hapa - replacement and demotivation is something that happens much more often as mafia 4) Trfel - He literally is voting without having any clue why But for various reasons I'm not really pushing any of those lynches. Guess I'm bad. Technically 5 with The slam claim but somehow we're all collectively forgetting it happened at seperate times. | ||
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On March 06 2024 09:32 Jealous wrote: I mean, this is a great post by sandroba, and an example for why I have them as one of my top town reads. I see what they're saying. I just still struggle to see JAT fighting so hard against a Vivax mayor campaign for so long because it looks so bad. Does the scum team not try to stop him and say "hey, this isn't really a good idea and looks bad?" Does JAT just ignore his scum team and go rogue? It just doesn't seem like it makes sense, and I know that they've played a lot of games... Does a veteran player really do all that, knowing the attention it will bring to their position? So, for now, going to ##Vote: Trfel and revisit Alakaslam to see exactly when and where they cop-claimed. See I feel that scum are more likely to feel backed into their reads/decisions. "I can't stop being subborn now it'll look suspicious" "Maybe if I ride it out it'll be wifom or so scummy it's not" | ||
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On March 06 2024 10:39 die_meatbaby wrote: your vote changes trigger me hard. You did it more often than usual. But don´t take it personal, after lynch one I will go intense here. I am just used do it that the first lynch is anways wrong but that will help me to find out about your true aligment. Naw I'm all in on the vote changes. We both did it last game as town together I agree it spices things up for mafia and keeps them on their toes. | ||
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On March 06 2024 10:48 Oatsmaster wrote: ##unvote ##vote dmb While he has been on DMB all game unvoting JAT now when it's getting close to possible they may get last minute switch votes for a vote that's def not going to happen would lead slight credence to IF one flips scum the other also being scum tbh. | ||
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"I think DP is mafia looking for a reasonable looking town lynch" and it would be town to DP if DP Mafia. | ||
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On March 06 2024 10:53 Oatsmaster wrote: What’s the difficulty? She’s callling the lynch town AND shes on it Oh not a word slip a motive slip. Hmm it's I guess kinda a slip in that sense, I think DP scum doing random stuff trying to vote for a town but I'll also vote for one of the two people DP pushed. I forget her motivation for voting was it better of the two (bad) options in her opinion or was there something else? | ||
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On March 06 2024 10:57 JacobStrangelove wrote: Oh not a word slip a motive slip. Hmm it's I guess kinda a slip in that sense, I think DP scum doing random stuff trying to vote for a town but I'll also vote for one of the two people DP pushed. I forget her motivation for voting was it better of the two (bad) options in her opinion or was there something else? There should have been quotes there for a "From DMB perspective" I don't think dp is scum ftr | ||
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On March 06 2024 10:59 die_meatbaby wrote: Can you read? I didn´t say JAT is Town i just said I am not happy with both wagons. Should I waste my vote. Did it in my first game. OPEN YOU EYES AND READ CORRECTLY PLS To be fair at least he's consistant with the reading part. Also man there's another hour to go I thought it was lynch time makes slightly more sense why oats is changing vote last minute. | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:00 sandroba wrote: oats is very townie imo Weirdly I'm actually reading him more townie based on his activity this late in a sense, with the side plate of maybe he's active because JAT is his scum buddy he was fake bussing and now he needs a reason to come off it/possible. The drive to solve the game and change stuff this late is good though. | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Explanations on the additions to your scum list? Also vote dmb I think that's his read of your scum list. Jealous is so good at list posting his posting your list post for you. | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:16 Vivax wrote: Bussing means your team is trying to kill you btw. Specifically the mafia team, Town tries to kill me all the time.... Reading DMB's filter again. | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:28 Oatsmaster wrote: There are no cases on any people. Take out the meta, what do you see Actually that is kinda fair, but from first post they've kinda consisntantly been depressed about day one lynch chances which while not helpful is kinda true. Also re out of game stuff like mental health I always take it as a, it's probably there, but bringing it up isn't alighnment indicative. Could be a cop out from mafia while also partually being true or could simply be an appology as town. | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:33 Trfel wrote: I'm getting lynched, that's fine. I just am trying to share what I can first. Unfortunately that isn't much, but I figure it's better than nothing Also Meapak_Ziphh is likely town, lynch with hesitance. any thoughts on me just out of curiosity? | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:36 DarthPunk wrote: Why would mafia trfel be undermining a counter wagon here? This is good point, but the trifle turning around and saying vivax is scummy seems out of pocket. But almost too out of pocket to be a mafia play surely they would know that vivax practically can't be mafia. | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:39 JacobStrangelove wrote: This is good point, but the trifle turning around and saying vivax is scummy seems out of pocket. But almost too out of pocket to be a mafia play surely they would know that vivax practically can't be mafia. This said desperation is the daughter of invevitability or something. | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:41 Vivax wrote: Bro if this gets brought up again at EoD I‘m gouging my eyes out (not really) Bro.... I just had a thought, like that vivax dude? Totally Mafia dawg, made the big brain uncc'd jailer claim day 1 | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:43 DarthPunk wrote: Why does DMB not post reads. The last time she was up for lynch as town she spewed town hard. This is actually counter meta I would have expected a big list post of reads but that's more under threat of actually dying... could be lazy town could be mafia. | ||
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On March 06 2024 11:46 die_meatbaby wrote: ahh thats why we both don´t like Palmar Oooft. | ||
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I agree too but I don't mind looking bad at night. Trfel (11): iamperfection, Justanothertownie (6): So the people on JAT when the dust settles are Palmer who is looking more town but still kinda has shade on him, meat baby which I like, Trfel which is ehh, Rels who is kinda null MZ who is slightly sus and oats which has ping ponged sus and not. Where as the people on trfel are Iampef who is a mild town read, dp who's a town read, Vivax who's a strong town read, Sandro who's a town read, Koshi who's a town read, ve who's kinda a scum read but also known to be read as scum when town. then marv who I've gone back to neutral on and slam who's a town read. JAT is ehh same as trifle | ||
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On March 06 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote: This is giving me scum DMB vibes not gonna lie. Like the fake outrage and tunnelling. Okay as someone who thinks you're both town DMB can you try and un tunnel for a moment. We know the lynch day 1 is unlikely to be mafia, so we can't blame people for getting it wrong with your own words. Can you try and un tunnel for a moment step back assume DP is town and see if that changes your opinion then after half an hour of assuming that go back to assuming he's mafia and see if that changes your opinion again. Just as a thought experiment. | ||
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On March 06 2024 12:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: So rather than form your own opinions you're just gonna sheep random people you're currently townreading or whatever fits the vibe? Also Sandroba switched his vote after you wtf, he's not one of the reasons you switched. Oh good point, re sand I don't remember exactly when people switched. | ||
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On March 06 2024 12:45 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: So rather than form your own opinions you're just gonna sheep random people you're currently townreading or whatever fits the vibe? Also Sandroba switched his vote after you wtf, he's not one of the reasons you switched. Also yes, I had already formed the opinion I could vote for either so who I end up voting for at the last minute is entirely vibe based. | ||
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Also just realised there's not much advantage to looking scummy during the night so I won't worry about that. There's for sure several factions of "town" spawning. There's the MZ Koshi CC I guess DMB faction and the IMP, DP, Vivax, faction with the Marv, Ray, Sandro faction Then Slam and Ve are more wildcards | ||
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Day One in the Grackaroni Estate…. Master Oats walks into the great hall, he bumps into Governor JSL who’s just arrived last night from the States “My word you look like a proper Rascal” Says Oats, Governor JSL Promptly ignores him and goes hunting for fox’s in the morning dew. A carriage arrives and Earl Trfel gets out, he comes in pleasantly greeting everyone and being suspiciously nice. Lord Koshi comments that he might be looking for a piece of the inheritance and is not to be trusted. Meanwhile…. On the second floor Sir Ray grabs Vicount Marv and pulls him into a closet. “I’ve been waiting for you… every eve without you my heart grows ever fonder.” “We can’t talk like this! What if we are seen!” Exclaims Marv “I care not let the whole world hear my passion for you… but only in the closet and secretly…” Marv says “my rear is yours my love but you know I enjoy the warmth of a woman” and pushes on the edge of the closet and grabs a waiting Sandroba who had followed the Vicounts messages to the closet. “Countess! You’re here with Marv as well! I didn’t know he was such a polygamist but I am eager to share him” Marv, Sandwiched between the the countess and Sir Ray experiences new heights of pleasure and is not seen on the dance floor all night. Meanwhile downstairs Lord Punk Demands to dance with Duchess Cake, He doesn’t approve of her feminine whiles and thinks she’s hiding something. The duchess refuses, shock ripples throughout the crowd such a snub is unheard of in polite society why pray tell would she not simply dance with him and be done with it? Governor Strangelove decides this rudeness should not go uncommitted and she lashes out at him and makes mean comments about the recent war. All of a sudden Undertaker Vixax BURSTS INTO THE SCENE SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER! RANTS ABOUT HAVING THE KEYS TO THE CRYPT AND HOW HE CAN KEEP YOU SAFE IF HE LOCKS YOU IN THERE! The party is instantly in disarray. Colonel Stars pokes his head into the ballroom goes hmmm then disappears. Count Viscera says “What’s there to be scared of I always look scary it’s okay” Sir Ray pokes his head out of the closet and says don’t listen to him but in doing so falls out and pulls Marv and Sandro with him. Lord Koshi Screams I KNEW YOU WERE ALL IN THERE SCHEMING, and Duke Ziphh backs him up with sassy dance moves. Marquess Palmer pipes up and says we should listen to the undertaker but then grabs a dance card. For the rest of the night he refuses all dances. LT Alakaslam puts on his detective coat and hat and says I used to be a Police officer once and starts investigating the ladies dresses for clues. Everyone ignores him. Butler Jealous and Maid Hapahauli are nowhere to be seen the food hasn’t been brought out the the guests are getting hungry. Suddenly Lady Meatbaby arrives. The crowd falls over themselves to dance with her. She says I’ll dance with you as long as you don’t think me a whore. After the first dance Master Oats calls her a whore. Officer Rels arrives to talk to the Undertaker about all this murder stuff and says some calming words. Reverend Perfection has some words for the polygamist trio and has a few comments on the debauchery of the party in general. Lord Koshi bursts back in and gathers a group around in a hush. There’s a conspiracy afoot! Sir Ray and his bisexual puppet are in on it, Lady Cake gasps. Gov Strangelove listens closer. “I can buy it yankeedoodle what’s the stitch?” “Sir Ray is not having fun, he’s just going through the motions fucking The Viscount without enjoying the sex, I think he’s depressed as his evil conspiracy isn’t going well.” “GOD DAMN WE NEED THE POLICE HERE IF ONLY WE HAD A COP” “I’m a cop says slam quietly in the background” Suddenly The Marquess (Palmer) asks The Viscount to a dance (Marv) They do a combination of the cha cha and the boogie which is quite odd for 1798 but at least there’s movement on the dance floor. Lord Punk busts in overwhelmed with tears, The dancing from the Marquess is so beautiful he is overcome and grabs the Earl bends him over and vigorously fucks him in the ass. The Gov (JSL) and the Undertaker (Vivax) decide to join him in Love making as the Earl gets triple penetrated. Justice Townie sneers and says “You’d never do that to me” Lord DP says “Try me and immediately abandons the Earl in favour of sex with the judge the three way moves on and even Palmer joins in temporarily before hate kissing Marv again. The Reverend Perfection horrified by all the open sex tries to send a letter back to the clergy for advice but his paper stops holding ink and he is no longer able to write. Out of nowhere the Butler Jealous bursts in with food. It’s Glorious it’s plentiful, it’s well cooked! (but not to everyone’s taste) In fact it does make some weird culinary decisions but immediately all is forgiven. MasterOats turning turned to Lady Meat and said “Thou stillith the most whoreish here” In the end of the day everyone eventually decides all civility is lost and the Earl passes out from exhaustion never to be seen again and The Maid Hapahauli is fired for not cleaning by the undertaker. | ||
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Oats and DMB have been quite consistently at odds. JSL and quite a few others early were happy with Trifle and then still voted him later which is suspicious. Although some were always saying he was anti meta early. Clear dividing lines have formed in pocket groups. DP controls a fair section of the town but so does Koshi. Rayn went from invincible certain mayor to disputed township while still seen as mostly good apart from those in the Koshi faction. Copcake has never made sense to me reads wise only in heavy posting style. Do they heavy post as mafia? Not sure of too much else though. | ||
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So I just decided to filter Koshi because he seems to be the very town seeming lynch pin holding the somewhat suspicious town group (MZ/CC in the corner together and very first page of his filter he scum slips hard and nobody notices. On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote: Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb. Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16. Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves. WHEN MARV FLIPS TOWN HEY? WHEN MARV FLIPS TOWN?? Not if Marv flips town when, how do you know Marv’s alignment huh Koshi? On March 04 2024 22:17 Koshi wrote: I wanted to be mafia this game. Or wouldnt have mind. But town is also fine. I am going to play normal this game. So I would make a good mayor. Because I will be lock town. Also this type of post always rubs me the wrong way, Oh I’m not mafia tee hee. No pointless bad. Not even a funny “Oh I’m not mafia” just a generic oh damn guys I’m not mafia oh well straight to asking for Mayor. On March 05 2024 01:12 Koshi wrote: I havent read anything yet from before I first posted. Masoning marv is leaning town. Marv gets good rep, marv isnt saying rayn is mafia. So probably I will have to battle town rayn. That's ok. I will battle him with scumreads. Also early is convinced Rayn is town lack of doubt here is concerning. On March 05 2024 04:38 Koshi wrote: Second wagon is often a townie as well. Mafia waits till town suggest a second town wagon and then sits on those 2 wagons. Then town vigis or kills second wagon as is tradition. I still think it is protown to want to give town 2 lynches, as it always provides information. But don't use the wrong reasons. This is frankly just semantic game state posting. Keep in mind Koshi entered the thread fairly late (simply due to timezones) there’s a lot to go off and this is what the focus is not scum hunting. On March 05 2024 04:47 Koshi wrote: I wrote this; decided not to post yet to see follow up Don't like this because it breaks the flow of the recent good posts made by iamps & DP See this: In addition I like how iamp handled Oats. With humor and progression in reading Oats. And I liked how iamp tried to steer away town from retardation around theorycrafting the second wagon. So iamp lock town till D3 BUT OH BOY WE GOT IAMP RAY AND MARV ALL TOWN LOCKED IN THE FIRST PAGE THIS MAN’S PSYCHIC! On March 05 2024 05:08 Koshi wrote: You were winning this entire chain till that last line from iamp. Did you answer DP? And with winning I mean looking pretty townie. man Dp’s also town everyone is town in Koshi land, Please like me guys I’m calling you all town. This said I will point out at this point they do go into a scum read on meatbaby for sowing distrust. Then goes in on TTS but I mean kinda everyone did even if TTS is scum I would bus them so hard if I was on a mafia team with them. On March 05 2024 05:29 Koshi wrote: The problem with this entire conversation is that Tfrel looks smart and MZ bad. But it is the only thing Tfrel does in this entire timespan. Look smart. But he isn't doing anything that helps town find mafia. I don't like it at all. Then he also thinks Tfrel looks smart but isn’t being helpful. Which isn’t overly suspicious but good to note with the lynch result. On March 05 2024 23:51 Koshi wrote: Ok let's shoot hapa with Vivax shot. I mean not wrong but an easy call to make as mafia if you know they are town. Okay I’ll be honest I got bored and the case kinda fell off but I see you just entered the thread Koshi. Mostly I’m concerned with the first part. On March 05 2024 04:07 Koshi wrote: Also this is dumb. Good info for when you flip town. But now all this is dumb. Whisperer mafia only need to fight 1 townie. While if he posts in the thread he needs to fight 16. Mason stuff is useless. Keep it to yourselves. Scum Slip Koshi? What’s happening here? | ||
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On March 06 2024 16:13 Koshi wrote: Well didnt expect this. Good read by sandroba and cc. Art thou thy buddies in scum? I see thou art speechless at the gallows that hang before thee. | ||
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On March 06 2024 19:30 CopCake wrote: But isnt vivax one of those “keep alive because he can be good” guys? I love Vivax he'd fun to play with. I've never understood what he's thinking or why or when. The fact he still thinks slam is mafia confuses me even now. This said I genuinely want your opinion on the koshi case I made earlier. Honestly I was looking at him because I thought he was a solid town and was just wanting to tick all boxes before I put him in def town don't need to check category. Also jats latest post I like the motivation in the first line where as you say if town you are the one who can sort of solve that section of the day. | ||
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On March 06 2024 19:42 CopCake wrote: Can someone link me the infamous "DP was mafia" game? Tbh I think dps filter is massive. So big I don't think he's ever had a filter this size before as mafia. If he's mafia he has taken it to heights since unknown. | ||
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On March 06 2024 19:54 justanothertownie wrote: It definitely isn't. That is a really stupid take tbh. My take or cops take? Because anyone who can't see my take is instantly more suspicious. | ||
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On March 06 2024 20:41 JacobStrangelove wrote: My take or cops take? Because anyone who can't see my take is instantly more suspicious. But I'm happy to break it down further before the hard tunnel. | ||
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The reason I started looking into Koshi in the first place was because I was struggling to believe any town could look at what copcake is doing and see town play. But this links into the Koshi seeing everyone as town theory. He's backing Cop as town because he knows cop is town. Koshi would have to be playing like a boosted animal to see Cop as being a town player right now and Koshi doesn't seem like a boosted animal hence Koshi is scum. Ironically I think this makes Copcake town so if I was going to go by association I would say maybe JAT is mafia with MZ and Koshi not sure the rest and of course this is all a weird association case that doesn't hold much water so if you are in this list and think well I'm town so Koshi isn't scum don't get it wrong this is all simple theorising. The important take away is Koshi is def scum for sure scum slipped and when confronted was all : "Oh yay I won't get nk'd because I'm totally town guys right??" Instead of "huh no that does make sense and look sus ngl I'm not but I see where you're coming from and it's understandable you're so smart JSL" Okay maybe that last bit Koshi wouldn't say but still. Also just fyi heading into bed time here probably out for a bit. | ||
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Do you also think it's wrong? Like just because it's me posting take a step back, it's the most basic of scum slips it's probably the only solid piece of evidence in the thread? | ||
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On March 06 2024 21:48 justanothertownie wrote: Rels: He seems very very sure about Palmar being mafia. So that is fine as long as the wagon had steam. After it died town we see this: Does not seem very strong either way. So I am not entirely sure how we arrive at this: But that is finde. What is not fine is that he isn't bothered at all that he is pushing for the same lynch as his top scumread Palmar. So, do we believe Rels just throws all of his conviction out of the window to vote me with his one scumread based on a townread that is at best "weak"? No issue at all it seems. Leads me to think between Rels and Palmar there is at least 1 mafia. I will say I am liking these posts from JAT. Still unsure why nobody see's the take on Koshi. Going to bed though maybe in the morning things will be clearer. | ||
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On March 07 2024 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm okay he actually went to read dmb's filter. i retract my analysis and await for Jacob to answer. Tbh You'll have to bring up which post exactly is the DMB Scum slip post again. It's probably because I'm a highly empathetic person tbh I try to get in people's heads and understand where they're coming from from what I've seen of DMB it seems in line with their ESL style so it didn't phase me. (I say not remembering exactly which post they slipped in) Koshi on the other hand strikes me as someone who wouldn't phrase things "Incorrectly" as town without first clarifying he was doing a "In this senario" style post. Where as people with higher empathy (generally) women and particualy ESL speakers who have to try and get in people's thoughts constantly, would. Along with the slight barrier with communicating being in someones's head. If that makes sense. OMG totally should all make a list of the hottest guys it'll be fun. | ||
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Also want this info. You're probably the least safe person tonight and "Practically town until future information" so I want to know what you think. Also DP, is Ray right about you agreeing with my case being good dumb if you are town? I mean I think I'm brilliant but I also do like Ray and I am curious about your response to it. | ||
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On March 07 2024 08:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Here was the post Jacob. Literally has nothing to do with empathy or whatever Ahh no I still don't think it's a scum slip. See here "I don´t really saw you making a wagon." From my perspective you aren't making a case "It´s more like somebody kinda says that that person looks scummy and just tried to push a wagon on it or a lynch or whatever." You're just saying they look scummy and pushing people to vote for them. *This is where the empathy kicks in, the implication here being that DP is mafia for doing this. "Does´t really seem like you searching for actual mafia" You're not looking for mafia you are mafia. "here just for a reasonable town lynch" As mafia you're just looking for a town lynch "where you can say; before I started the wagon there where other people thinking the same. I was not alone.. blablabla.... Just already disapointed of you in this game. You big filter doesn´t make you direkty activ Town..." Where as Mafia you have safety from a flip. This is directly different from Koshi's post where it's litterally. "Oh yo when you flip town this will be helpful but it's not right now" | ||
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On March 07 2024 09:15 Oatsmaster wrote: Koshi is obviously talking about the scenario which marv flips town. Like when that happens. Not that it will happen…. Okay we can agree to disagree about the wording whatever however she’s literally voting for the person that DP is on at this time which she literally does not care about Look the second part I also disagree with, if she doesn't vote one of the top two lynches it's a wasted vote, like the three people who basically avoided the lynch entirely if she does she's gotta pick one of the two options. You've put them in a catch-22 scenario here where there's no winning. She either votes the lesser of the two evils and is scummy or votes for neither and is scummy. | ||
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On March 07 2024 10:12 Vivax wrote: TTS not voting is sorta townie. He might get modkilled. Vigging copcake might be better. If Slam is town he dies here I guess. Readslist ? You know kinda agree. Would almost prefer a vig shot to tell us something wild a vig shot on TTS is safe but it doesn't really tell us anyone's alignment. | ||
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On March 07 2024 10:21 DarthPunk wrote: As for the mayor stuff, I would never 'run' for mayor unless I got two votes. I find the whole thing tacky honestly. I don't tend to die early that often, because people always call me scummy as either alignment cause my play is balanced and I don't really have meta tells. It's odd to me that both you and cake got hung up on me not running for mayor, having never played in a game with me as mayor, so therefore the assumption that I would run for mayor and not running is scummy is just weird. Like why is marv not scummy for not wanting to run for mayor for example. Why have you not tried to find a game in which I ran or mayor. I like to move my vote around to pressure people, the vote on rayn was my way of telling him to fuck off basically. That should be obvious. Hmm idk there's a lot of you dying night one in your recent town games. Although a fair few of you surviving too. Not quite 50/50 but a high enough percentage to debate that. | ||
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On March 07 2024 10:25 DarthPunk wrote: I died night one 1 time in four games 3 times I went to endgame or close enough. Persona 4 Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 0 Witchcraft Mini Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 1 Avogadros Number Mini Mafia Town Named VT Killed Night 1 Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 TL Endures Mafia Town Vanilla Killed Night 4 Quarterly Mafia Town Vanilla Survived Winter Warfare Mafia Town Doctor Killed night 1 Taking out the games where you were mafia or neutral and going by recent we get night 0 night 1 night 1 44 survive n1 But anyway don't think it'll mater this game | ||
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On March 07 2024 10:27 Vivax wrote: DP calling for a vig on TTS makes me paranoid about DP tbh. Also that he softened up my push on Jealous. There‘s nothing townie about cop‘s reads. Nothing. I operate under the assumption she wants to be recruited by mafia to have a chance at the wincon. oooh that's a good point could be traitor I forgot about that. | ||
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On March 07 2024 10:27 Vivax wrote: DP calling for a vig on TTS makes me paranoid about DP tbh. Also that he softened up my push on Jealous. There‘s nothing townie about cop‘s reads. Nothing. I operate under the assumption she wants to be recruited by mafia to have a chance at the wincon. apart from yourself and slam who's the most town to you right now? | ||
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On March 07 2024 10:30 DarthPunk wrote: I’m talking about the recent games only why do games from 10 years ago count. Well I assume the list is in order and you aren't playing in newbie gams recently.... Although I don't know how old those games are to be fair. | ||
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On March 07 2024 10:41 DarthPunk wrote: Why am I exhausting when we have barely interacted? To be fair I just look at your 27 page filter and feel myself falling asleep. You do have the power to argue people into tiredness as either alightment (although moreso as town) | ||
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Actually this looks like a scum slip out of context ngl Unless it was a joke.... Also don't forget I also wanted to be mayor but nobody took me seriously | ||
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On March 07 2024 10:56 die_meatbaby wrote: I don´t need do quote Ve or do I? His hole filter looks scummy, but to be fear he always do Okay let me break it down, You said don't lynch VE early. This makes sense. you then say lynch TOWN VE later. ??? why would we lynch town ve later? Lynching SCUM VE would make sense. | ||
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Sure mistakes happen but do you think DMB's "mistake" and reaction to it (not noticing we were even pointing out the mistake for ages) is more or less suspicoius than Koshi's "Mistake" and reaction to it. (ignoring it entirely and being like I'm town fuck you) | ||
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On March 07 2024 11:03 DarthPunk wrote: DMb do you think jake is town or mafia. Jake do you think DMB is town or mafia? Well I thought they were town, or at least the reasons people attacking them wasn't based in real scumslip reasons. But then they did it again, which could be a mistake but now I'm more suspicious. | ||
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Puts a fair amount of pressure on MZ Questions Vivax over his town dp read. Thinks Oatsmaster is reasonable. But then flips and calls MZ town. Quite town. (this part of the reason he gets lynched but we know in hindsight it’s true) Likes Diebaby’s post. Later thinks they are town. Does not think Iamperfection is town. Thinks Copcake is town as well. Votes for Vivax and Palmer. Says Don’t Lynch oatsmaster and slam also likes copcake. Likes DMB again Says don’t lynch mz Loop at IMP Hmm honestly kinda the inverse of my view but it's coming from town so I might have to re-evaluate my entire perspective. | ||
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On March 07 2024 11:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: See this is why I really wanted to hear her take on JSL because she was the one who initially got me looking his way and the comment she made about his meta was such a townie way of thinking it made me reevaluate her. I also don't see her trying to bus JSL although to be fair she hasn't gone after him very hard. I think she did say something but only something minor after your case. Which I'll actually probably have to convince you I'm town later now that I went back through trifel and he thought you were town. I'm not concerned right now though I want to see if anyone else bites and if so how they do it. | ||
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On March 07 2024 11:54 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: Jacob you seem like a nice guy and I'd enjoy playing with you if I thought you were town but honestly man, the way you sheep here is really bothering me. In particular the bolded part. You've been putting soft pressure my way for a while but now that you realize the flipped town called me green you're waffling on it (also timely that jealous said he agreed with a lot of my reads). Your lynch vote you claim was based on voting with players you thought were town so you came off the dude who you had previously wanted dead. It just feels like you want to be on the "right side" of whatever the current thread sentiment is. Oh I previously wanted them both dead so there was no love lost on which one I was voting for. I was just seeing a counterwagon very quickly 4 votes and was paranoid about the scum team voting to save their teammate. in hindsight isn't the case but that was the reasoning at the time. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Like what are you talking about? It makes 0 sense for slam to do what he did as mafia, I don’t see any ccs or any softed CCs Yeah slam was pro oats then gets a check and goes neg oats Mafia slam would have gone oh I've got a vt check on mafia or vt check on someone not useful I would think. Unless mafia is trying to go one for one which doesn't seem right. Your only out here is claiming miller. but that's a 2 in 22 compared to a 5-22 or I guess out of 20 now after day lynch. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:29 JacobStrangelove wrote: I'm over here facepalming. Although that does seem like a town move to make. Okay thoughts town should gunsmith claim now? No reason not to right? | ||
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Yeah okay, initially I was giving it to Koshi but then I started reading Koshi's filter hence my random flip on Koshi out of nowhere when I saw the scum slip. I then thought probably DP because Rayn or Sand are the most town to most of town and most likely to be killed (although I had a pm open with give gun to ray ready to go as I was trying to snipe DP's post to know if I SHOULD give it to him or not) Also backed up by DP talking a lot about what he wanted VIG to do and thus if he did something cray I could pin it on him later. and yeah it's one shot gunsmith clarified with Grack.. Now if this isn't clearly enough proof I'm gun smith just from game state. I breadcrumbed initially giving gun to Koshi in the gay thread. well not like breakcrumbed breadcrumbed but implied I was all in on his conspiracy plan (the one AMERICAN of the classy group who HUNTED FOX's) Then if you noticed all my talk about how many blues are there after jack of all trades died. then my talk before the night ended concerned more with finding the most town person to give gun to rather than scum hunting. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:37 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah ok jake, you are the gunsmith, that was obvious before you claimed, sorry for fucking it up. That's okay it's going to make a great night post. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:41 Rels wrote: Oh wow is it really a single use? So yeah kind of a shitty vig, 4 blues is definitely possible Kinda shitty but it can be used if used well to semi confirm two people compared to vig that you know could be mafia vig or town vig and only goes to one. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:41 DarthPunk wrote: why did mafia not shoot slam, or even roleblock him? Actually I imagine jack of all trades or watcher could have been on slam. we won't know until after the game if rel was but thinking about it it's not a awful choice to just hope he misses and kill two strong town. The chance of there being lots of blue would have been a concern. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:45 Oatsmaster wrote: My current hypothesis is they have a framer and felt good about him checking me Did they know slam was checking you he was calling you town. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:46 JacobStrangelove wrote: Did they know slam was checking you he was calling you town. actually going to pack for sydney but looking at slams posts does anyone know what seemed like Slam was going to check? Do you think it makes sense for people to think he's checking oats? | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:49 Jealous wrote: New theory: The mafia is Vivax, Koshi, Slam, JSL, and DP They go max try-hard master mafia player mode to make themselves appear town and elect Vivax as mayor. Then they claim as many roles as they feel they can get away with knowing that there are so many roles available that they might just get away with a couple of them and thus look even more town. Then they guide us to mislynches, "reveal" townies like Oats as scum, and eventually get the most insane mafia victory of all time, making town look like a bunch of idiots. Their names are engraved on a golden plaque and the TL Mafia section is closed down. JAT and CC get canonized as saints. /s Man imagine me and DP as Mafia together. The world isn't ready. It won't be pretty.... The world just wouldn't be ready. | ||
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On March 07 2024 12:49 CopCake wrote: You deffended Jacob ALL DAY and NIGHT and now he is mafia? Naw this is within reason for dp. Particularly with me scumming it up and being lazy. | ||
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On March 07 2024 15:02 Jealous wrote: So, following up on Rayn vs. Palmar as promised to @Vivax. Going to post the order of events after searching both of their filters for the others' name, for simplicity sake. X -> Y = X suspects/reads/calls Y scum, neutral, or town. Note. 1351 Rayn -> Palmar, VE 1935 Rayn -> Palmar, Trfel 1943 Rayn -> Palmar, JAT 2082 Rayn votes Palmar; this happened after they had a bit of back-and-forth on a few things. 2902 Rayn -> Palmar. 2955 Rayn -> Palmar 3008 Rayn -> Palmar 3011 Rayn -> Palmar 3020 Rayn -> Palmar Okay god damn there are like 80 more mentions of his name from this point onward and I am now realizing this was a dumb venture to catalog so I will just point out if/when he changed his mind. ... Okay so holy fuck, I went through Rayn's filter and never once did Rayn actually change his read from Palmar as scum. I see now that what Vivax said was that he "backed off of" Palmar while Palmar was instead continuing to attack him. Somehow I equated this to Rayn changing his mind, but that never happened. So, ultimately, I think this is mostly a nothingburger. Rayn was basically pushing Palmar due to meta stuff, and then it seems like Palmar pushed back simply because he doesn't agree with Rayn's meta-read approach? That's what I got by searching for their names toward the end of their histories. TLDR This was an enormous waste of time IMO. Did find some other things to look into for tomorrow ET, though, so at least there is that. And with that, I'm gone until then. Night, all. Yeah I mean, palmer seemed to be doing townish things but I mean... Rayn, confirmed town, good town player, with extra mason info haaaaaaaard pushed Palmer all game. As someone who doesn't know Palmer that's a fair call for like a day three lynch imo. | ||
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Oh well. Happy to assume marv and DP are town still along with Slam and Vivax of course, and obviously me. At least until further information comes out. | ||
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On March 08 2024 05:26 iamperfection wrote: Can we stop the blue speculation especially if you clearly don't know what your talking about. The only way we would know for sure if slams 100% town is if oats flips scum. Miller and framer are possible so we still wouldn't know for sure that slam was lying even if oats flips green. For as claiming protection from rayn I have no clue what your talking about how would slam know if he is town. If your suggesting mafia marv knew somehow it's still pointless because there was no missing kp. I just had a funny thought what if oats flips godfather? Also the Jealous clown post made me laugh the hardest I've done so far well played. | ||
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On March 08 2024 10:44 iamperfection wrote: we could use a little more JacobStrangelove in the thread imo. Yee sadly I wasn't lying pre game when I said I was flying to Sydney packing for that and stuff has kept me busy What would ray and Sandro do though? | ||
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Apart from when I discovered what still looks like a scum slip they seemed very town. | ||
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On March 08 2024 11:04 Oatsmaster wrote: If mz can’t come up with a single other reason why I’m mafia other than the red check, I think that says it all Good thought experiment does anyone have time to go over oats filter assuming he is mafia to find reasons? | ||
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On March 08 2024 13:56 Rels wrote: Scum: Palmar, TTS, VE, Oats Possibly scum: DMB Town: The rest apart from Jealous for which I have no read This seems like a good reads list tbh. Tts looked very bad coming in so vague but with knowledge. Oats never seemed super town until after a red check ironically Mz is trying super hard Boarding plane now | ||
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On March 09 2024 02:30 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: This might be the smartest thing you've posted koshi. Reading through Slam's D1 and Oats is his most consistent scumread. It could also explain why Slam didn't die last night. Why were you reading slams day one? In before conspiracy to make it look like he is the cop when really slam has fake claimed and mz is backing him up so when flip says vt we don't lynch slam. | ||
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On March 09 2024 06:35 Palmar wrote: So, I'm going to finally make the case you've all been waiting for. [b]raynpelikoneet is scum[b] The entire case hinges on two points. There is some other weirdness in his postings, but those are by far the most important ones Point 1 - rayn demands, twice and in all caps, that I make a case on Vivax The reason this is important is because it clearly implies rayn never actually read my filter But the problem is, I had explained my stance on Vivax multiple times in the thread. Like I'm actually kinda annoyed with myself for how often I repeated that same point. Here's a link to a post where I summarized me repeatedly expressing the same stance on Vivax. https://tl.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=28152997 In conclusion. rayn considers me his #1 lynch target but hasn't actually read my filter and doesn't know my stances. Point 2 - rayn refuses to acknowledge that I don't think and play like him This one is a little more nuanced to explain, especially to people who weren't involved in the last game we played, but for context here's the gist of it. On day 3, I am town and kinda think rayn may be town. rayn is however mafia and is tunneling me as an established scumread. The most significant post here is this: In the same way as he does this game for the mason thing, rayn demands a townread because I have other people that aren't him as possible mafia, and then claims it's impossible that they could be scum together. To me, this is a clear logical fallacy, because it assumes that I'm always right on my scumreads other than rayn. I explain this even further here in the last game. So given that we literally had this discussion last game, rayn's claim THIS game that I must be mafia because I refuse to think in associations like he does means he has to be scum himself. Not because he doesn't know my playstyle, that's actually completely acceptable he's mafia because he's reminded that I just explained my playstyle to him last game, I play like I always do again, and remind him that's how I think, but he still refuses to listen This means he doesn't WANT to listen, and his objective isn't actually finding out my alignment, just wants to kill me. In conclusion: raynpelikoneet I mean the only other option is that he's a moron. Spends all day and all night making a case on why rayn is wrong instead of finding scum. If oats wasn't red checked I would vote you now. | ||
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On March 09 2024 07:09 Jealous wrote: So JSL claiming gunsmith unCC'd doesn't matter to you? I'm starting to think mafia are intentionally dumb slipping a lot in the thread. | ||
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On March 09 2024 07:12 Palmar wrote: I had no idea he claimed that. Also wtf does "unccd" mean.. it's a semi-open setup Do also claimed gun holder for some boosted reason. | ||
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On March 09 2024 07:13 JacobStrangelove wrote: Do also claimed gun holder for some boosted reason. This said now you are continuing to post the fact you spent the time on rayn is okay.... But still sus. | ||
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Its not boring to call you out in just defending yourself and doing nothing else. Until you do something else. | ||
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On March 09 2024 09:18 DarthPunk wrote: lol this game is a fucking shit show. At some point you've got to embrace it. | ||
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On March 09 2024 09:19 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: I don't see how scum palmar puts his joke vote on the only plausible counter wagon if VE is scum too. What do you mean oats had 10 votes voting on scum ve is entirely safe from his perspective. | ||
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On March 09 2024 09:22 Vivax wrote: Go back and buy a coke maybe then you can post the entire team. Hahahaha | ||
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On March 09 2024 09:33 DarthPunk wrote: Haven’t you called people not voting for oats mafia for the whole phase? Also this is exactly what I was looking for by voting palmer I'm not dumb wanted to see who else would jump ship when oats flips scum to find others. If not scum then jumping ship might be town behaviour Back on oats ftr | ||
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On March 09 2024 09:47 iamperfection wrote: ve might be replacing out Out of game info or just speculation? | ||
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On March 09 2024 11:20 iamperfection wrote: no he doesn't if he is town he could have also been framed this is not a reason. Omg no if town or Miller should still be when town or Miller in English. Could see it being a language check though. But dp is right. | ||
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When intake a car you'll realise I chose not to. When i take a bus or train I'll be taking public transport. I don't take a car because I already said I would take public transport. | ||
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I've been given a cloak of invisibility today I'm going to give it to slam so he can't be shot but can still investigate. Yes read it and weep scum. | ||
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On March 09 2024 12:24 DarthPunk wrote: Vivax flip a coin and jk me on heads. But don't roll claim the coin flip. | ||
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On March 09 2024 12:57 Jealous wrote: > see flip > immediately filter self to find evidence to substantiate that the flip is good for them ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/VgLm9GJ.jpeg) I think we would be friends irl. | ||
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Two lifeless inanimate objects littered the hallway. Gov JSL walks in. "Hmm what's TTS and VE doing drunk and unconscious in the hallway? Townie walks in “omg does anyone notice Rayne and Sandro are dead on the couch?” “Oh god!” Screamed Lady Cake “That vile fiend DP is here!” Lord DP walks into the room “I've got a gun!!!!” He screams. “I'll shoot one of you for this!!!!” Everyone looks at him. “But it's a really old musket I'll have to repair it first….” “I can help you with that DP” murmurs Gov JSL “So about the murders tho” says Viscount Marv Master Oats strolls in “ Duchess Die Baby is to blame for sure! I vote we out this whore before her sexual diseases kill anymore fine young men.” “I saw it! I saw it with my own eyes! I took a photo of oats stabbing Ray!” states LT Slam… MZ exclaimed “we must lynch him” What? But Oats is such a fine upstanding gentlemen? Says half the room simultaneously. “Yeah that picture doesn't even look like me” “What if someone was wearing a wig” says Palmer. “Maybe someone told him it was a fancy dress costume and took the photo of him with a knife right before the killing! The Undertaker Vivas pondered. “Good point!” Says MZ “VE may have killed him then fainted in excitement” “Unhand my rear scoundrel I'm trying to think” says Duchess Baby to the Undertaker Butler Jealous comes in and calms everyone down to think sensibly “Good thoughts Baby, look we can still have sex with the bodies 5 minute rule right?” “Jealous is the killer!!!!” Screams Lady Cake “he thinks sexual harassment is a solid argument he must think a double murder is a thesis and dissertation.” Suddenly scared people were onto him Master Oats decides to make a valiant escape! He leaps onto the chandelier swings to the window double summersults out of it land perfectly before being run over by a passing carriage and killed. On his body is the murder weapon and an ominous note alluding to a well manned murder cult. Reverend imperf gets out of the carriage and looks on in horror. He tries to revive oats before realising he was a cultist and heretic. Rells who was driving the carriage after finding out he was a murderer feels very proud and mentions it to everyone. Suddenly Palmer pipes up “I think Rayn is part of this cult of murderers….” Everyone ignores him. Tune in next time for more adventures in… Grackvilla House. | ||
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On March 09 2024 18:13 VisceraEyes wrote: Someone saved me, that guy's town. Someone pushed for me to die, that guy's mafia. Do vote analysis for the rest of the game. This is a social thread now, it's mechanical. This is the biggest wifom. This said I'm almost good to not vote ve next on policy now. While double bus is... Sadly very possible. We should just view best scum read moving forward. | ||
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On March 09 2024 18:18 VisceraEyes wrote: I only bus when I'm around to actually soak up that sweet town cred, push the wagon, call people dumb/mafia for disagreeing with me. I don't point at a teammate and then fuck off, you can ask literally anyone who has been mafia with me. That's not how I play as the role mafia. So like, good luck to anyone who wants to lynch me - yes, I've been inactive but I've done pro-town things and my mafia meta is ironclad here. Okay so did you catch up? What are your current reads on those voting for you? Some must be town | ||
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On March 09 2024 18:33 marvellosity wrote: Pretty clear from my filter I was always gonna end on oats. But knock yourself out. None of these posts are townie posts. They might not be townie posts and it might be a double bus but even so statistically there's at least 3-4 other mafia to lynch even if he is mafia so hit them first better than maybe a double bus for little reason? Well I guess wifom about it would be a reason if he was next in line anyway. | ||
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On March 09 2024 18:55 VisceraEyes wrote: I ran for mayor got ignored and demotivated. I decided to spend time with people who want to touch my junk rather than people who literally never give a shit what I have to say. Honestly I shouldn't have joined, but I did and it is what it is. I fully accept that I'm going to die within the next 2 day cycles, and the thread is too big for me to catch up and give anything resembling meaningful reads - not that I would even, because like I said, any effort I make is wasted because no one gives a shit about my reads. I won't darken the thread again except to meet the activity requirements and vote. Good luck gentlemen and ladies and everything in between. Hey now I bet there's a good number of is here who would happily touch your junk. I'm are even DP would touch your junk if he thought it would help with a scum read. | ||
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slam never lynch same to Vivax. I actually really like jealous ever since he arrived. I am per and Marv are kinda in the same town like basket but I found see then playing amazing scum. DMV I kinda like. Meta wise all game but I could have bias Rells no fucking idea. Along with jat and Just cause they were counter lynch ve Mz no idea but last minute swap doesn't look good? Jat, like more than palmer? Like more than cupcake. | ||
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On March 10 2024 13:47 VisceraEyes wrote: ToTheStars wasn't on me, so that makes everyone on me even more likely mafia. Just saying. Just lynch down the line and win. Tts also voted early and left so hard to say. Rip Slam you were the best cop this game. | ||
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On March 10 2024 15:05 CopCake wrote: ##vote: copcake I am town but I want to quit the game, I am not enjoying it like I tend to do it. Rayn might get a bit annoyed but I am a sensitive person and if I do not like something, I just quit. Same happened when Slam was having a difficult moment, I felt bad so I wanted out. Well there's your response. Sadly more likely as Mafia than town so. Doesn't change the vote. | ||
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On March 10 2024 19:04 CopCake wrote: I mean, who did he pick? Just trying DPs not mafia roleblocker. Dp | ||
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On March 10 2024 19:07 CopCake wrote: Good, if Vivax tell us last night he protected Slam then we know there is a roleblocker. Or a strong arm but very unlikely both. | ||
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Or a useless rolecop... Then that's all mafia roles easy. | ||
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On March 10 2024 19:10 CopCake wrote: If vivax jailed slam, why not kill DP with the strongarm? Slam would had been useless with the jail Town DP had a shot to use on mafia TTS/ cake /Dmb Mafia didn't know who Vivax was jailing they had to guess... | ||
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The game last night played. By the blues was. Dp does he shoot or wait and hope Vivax protects him. And who does he shoot? Mafia doesn't know but they can guess. Vivax, does he protect dp or slam, or Yolo onto me. Mafia doesn't know. But they can guess. Vivax flipped a coil and picked slam. Mafia doesn't know this. Do shot tts mafia doesn't know this before it happens. Mafia was like we'll either strong arm or role block the shot or the cop check. | ||
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Godfather Framer Mafia vig dp protected/or/goon actually cause tts role Strongarm/or/roll blocker Rolecop. | ||
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On March 10 2024 19:21 DarthPunk wrote: My shot would still go through if im dead. Yeah if just kill they go to kill dp and he shoots back they both die. | ||
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On March 10 2024 19:23 JacobStrangelove wrote: Yeah if just kill they go to kill dp and he shoots back they both die. For sex lore purposes. | ||
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On March 10 2024 19:56 die_meatbaby wrote: Young lady, it breaks my heart. Why are you calling me dumb all the time? Hahaha. See I still semi town read you both. | ||
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##vote cake and I have more town reads voting cake. | ||
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Also mz is the most high effort poster right now with his big cases so I'm happy town reading him tbh. Its like he knows he has to solve the game and it's on him if he's town. | ||
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On March 11 2024 10:08 Vivax wrote: I think they're both scum is that not obvious. You know what not really. I mean yes once I and you die if dp doesn't die after that I could see the galaxy brain shoot my scum team play but it's not really a valid play right now. | ||
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On March 11 2024 10:07 iamperfection wrote: i hate this game and also love this game. Same this has gotta be one of the best worst games I've played. | ||
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I mean I think at this point we can actively tell them you're not vet and mafia will wifom themselves into shooting someone else and town will lunch you for it so... Better towns in the same page tbh | ||
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On March 11 2024 10:13 iamperfection wrote: feel like if rayn was voted mayor game would be over lol Naw we would have lynched Vivax and gotten lost somewhere. | ||
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On March 11 2024 10:20 iamperfection wrote: yeah it was very self sabotage of me to want to vote the other blue for mayor. To be fair you didn't know that at the time did you? Let's all take a deep breath and then yell at each other more. | ||
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Or they block Vivax and kill slam who's read the might before killed even the most town looking oats and could clear up town on someone scum are trying to kill or find another red check while 2000% confirmed. Basically losing the game on the spot. | ||
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On March 11 2024 15:37 CopCake wrote: From my point of view since I am town, not blocking DP means that DMB is town and mafia gambled to see who he shot. Exactly if you are town why would mafia ever shoot dp when he's 2-1 likely to hit town. Perfect makes sense. | ||
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This is why it makes no sense. | ||
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On March 11 2024 15:45 CopCake wrote: So lynching me is benefical and would kinda clear DP, right? Dp is already cleared either way. So it only slightly clears dmb but even then by night action logic it still makes sense to not rb dp if they even have an rber they could have had a strong arm | ||
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And how is mafia supposed to fucking know this? | ||
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On March 11 2024 19:22 Palmar wrote: Lol this doesn't matter for now. To put the game in perspective, we're basically in a normal 13 player game of town vs mafia. 10 town, 3 mafia. But we have two VERY likely "blue checks" (you and DP). We also have like 200 pages of bullshit that can be parsed. We're in a great position. We can mislynch 3 times and still be in the game. The current state of the game demands simple playing. We're not in lylo, we're not even close to lylo. We should not be tinfoiling for hidden mafia. We need to be killing the people who have stereotypical scum characteristics, and first and foremost amongst them is VE. He is not interested in the game, isn't helping to solve it, seems to not be enjoying playing etc. Consider it a pseudo policy lynch, which is almost always a good idea in day 1 on a normal game. I can't stress enough how important it's to just keep a happy disposition. We're in a stronger than expected position. There is no need to panic, just calmly keep analyzing the game. The one weakness of the game is that very little information can be gained from the last 2 days because they have been semi-default lynches. Which is another reason why resolving VE is great for the state of the game. I'll happily reconsider if VE starts looking supertown. Also to answer your question... MZ and JAT? Why MZ? Have you not seen the man's Latest posts? He and Jealous are basically the most town like scum hunting players right now. At least in actual effort wise goes. | ||
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Cc is town because playing so drastically against win con as scum when you know ve is town is dumb. It was scummy before but now we know VE is town Cc is town. Unless we lynch Palmer and he flips town then it's cc rels and still not sure on last. I like jealous and mz, Jat in that order of townness. | ||
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On March 12 2024 13:46 DarthPunk wrote: Just fucking lynch copcake. My god why is this so hard/ No tbh yes she looked scummy before the flip bit ironically looks better after it. | ||
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On March 12 2024 15:23 Jealous wrote: Can you elaborate on why CC is town now that VE is town? Because instead of taking the easy dogpile on the wagon, she voted for herself? I mean yeah that is pretty much it tbh. In the situation where be and cc are scum they might be helpless and both self vote and be sad in qt right? But they aren't, game isn't hopeless, at least two hidden or semi hidden scum out there. Cupcake would have at least the most basic social requirement to them to hold on slightly longer so they have more chance of winning. Hence cc is town who feels they are playing solo and depressed. | ||
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On March 12 2024 16:13 DarthPunk wrote: Why does that not also make sense if they are maf v maf? Because VE flipped town. It did make sense hence why we voted them. Or doesn't make sense as mvt | ||
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On March 12 2024 17:32 Koshi wrote: JAT/Rels/dmb for me now. Trying to read dead townies brought me nowhere. Honestly if not you and Palmer. It might be rels palmer idk Jat. Either way I'm going to do Palmer's Strat and vote for most scummy only which is him. | ||
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On March 12 2024 18:35 Vivax wrote: Ima scratch that actually. JS fakeclaimed gunsmith, pretended to give gun to mafia vig DP. Everyone thinks Js is town now so he is semi-checked out, DP shoots lazy teammate. Oats is thrown to the wolves to placate the thirst for blood of the town. DMB gets NDAd in scumchat so she stops bussing every teammate (she was tunneled on Oats DP and they tunneled her back at some point) I like the moxy but why are DP and I constantly on the right lynch though? | ||
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On March 12 2024 18:51 CopCake wrote: But I will let what you posted Vivax to be discussed by somebody else. I don’t want to go that alley. If I could lynch someone, would be Palmar. Yes, lets all lynch Palmer I'm going to fight for this tonight and make a town case so Solid it'll suvive 48 hours of IamPerfection Wifoming himself. | ||
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*news reporter voice* We’re here at the scene of a conspiracy about half the guests of this party have died or fell ill under mysterious circumstances. We’re hearing that just last night a reputable Colonel Stars sleep walked into a paranoid Lord DP’s bedroom and was shot with a newly furnished Musket. EX Detective LT Slam was called to the scene but did not show up. He was also found murdered in his bed with his notes on fellow guests. Speculation into these murders leads us to believe a murder suicide cult may be behind it all. Recently much discussion on who was to blame for the murders took place. It was decided there was to be a toast then a duel to the death between the two front runners VE and Duchess Cake. *fade to black* *Mysterious voice overheard talking to VE Never fear you won’t have to fight Duchess Cake, I have put a pellet of poison in one of the vessels. Ve “Which one?” Mysterious voice: “The one with the figure of a pestle” VE “The Vessel with the pestle?” “Yes but you don’t want the vessel with the pestle, you want the chalice from the palace.” VE : I don't want the vessel with the pestle, I want the chalice from... the what? Jean : The chalice from the palace! VE : Hmmm? Mysterious Voice: : It's a little crystal chalice with a figure of a palace. VE : The chalice from the palace has the pellet with the poison? Mysterious Voice: : No, the pellet with the poison's in the vessel with the pestle. VE : Oh, oh, the pestle with the vessel. Mysterious Voice:: The vessel with the pestle. VE : What about the palace from the chalice? Mysterious Voice: : Not the palace from the chalice! The chalice from the palace! VE : Where's the pellet with the poison? Mysterious Voice: : In the vessel with the pestle. The chalice from the palace has the brew that is true. Meanwhile copcake overhears the conversation from the side. As the time comes and both walk towards the wine cups they both run desperate to drink from the Vessel with the Pestle. VE gets there first drinks it and dies. On him is a note saying “With my death you’ll all be free to find the true criminals his last words say Lord Koshi and and Marquess Palmer are part of the cult, he saw it in a dream. Duchess CopCake sits and pouts about living in a world with Lord DP where he is confirmed to be killing the Cult members. | ||
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Point Number 1. He thought I was town early on, That’s sus as fuck nobody ever thinks I’m town when I’m town. 2. Marv, Trfel, Slam, VE, JSL, all confirmed town thought he was scum. 3. He posts lots of “Hey guys this is the right policy play guys this is great Mafia advice, Oh actually scum hunting? Naw lets only do policy and correct TM play moves” Like in the last day or so he’s basically only just done mild oh these guys are all still scummy vaguely in a pile for… reasons… yes so keep them in mind to lynch when I’m still alive day 6 and it’s lylo. 4. He’s sheeping DP hard and DP is falling for it because DP likes being called smart. 5. He’s always on the “wrong” lynch target/the target that doesn’t get lynched. Day one On March 06 2024 11:58 Grackaroni wrote: Day One Vote Count Mayor Vivax (13): raynpelikoneet (3): Oatsmaster (1): Oatsmaster Koshi (1): Not Voting (3): CopCake, Hapahauli, ToTheStars With 13 votes, Vivax is currently set to be elected! Lynch Trfel (11): iamperfection, Justanothertownie (6): Palmar (1) : JacobStrangelove (1): CopCake, die_meatbaby (0): CopCake (0): ToTheStars (0): Hapahauli (0): VisceraEyes (0): DarthPunk (0) : iamperfection (0): Koshi (0) : raynpelikoneet (0) : Alakaslam (0) Vivax (0): Oatsmaster (0) : Not Voting(2): Hapahauli, ToTheStars With 8 votes, Trfel is currently set to be lynched! Let me know if you see any votes misplaced The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 06 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in Oh what’s this? Was never on Oats, was never on TTS, went on JAT but wasn’t on the main lynch, does he know they are both town? Only ever voted one person and stayed there. On March 09 2024 11:51 Grackaroni wrote: Day Two Vote Count Oatsmaster (9): VisceraEyes (7): Koshi, Oatsmaster, Palmar (0): Jealous (0): Justanothertownie (0): ToTheStars (0): marvellosity (0): die_meatbaby (0): VisceraEyes (0): CopCake (0): Not Voting (1): VisceraEyes With 9 votes, Oatsmaster is currently set to be lynched! The deadline is Saturday, Mar 09 3:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), which is in Oh what’s this? Oatsmaster has a confirmed red check? Never on him. Not even once, decisively counter meta. Blatantly so. Nearly the entire game was on Oats at one point and sure some changed but Palmer? No… not the red check? Can’t vote them ever… no doubt in his mind he’s not voting Oats. Only on VE. On March 12 2024 11:01 Grackaroni wrote: Day Three Vote Count VisceraEyes (7): Rels, Justanothertownie, Koshi, Palmar, CopCake (6): Jealous, Meapak_Ziphh (0): Palmar (0): Jealous (0): DarthPunk (0): With 7 votes, VisceraEyes is lynched! What’s this? Is this Palmer once again on VE only with not a single other vote? Man it’s so townie to never doubt your read ever because why would you if you know they’re all town? What? You mean the counter wagon to the confirmed red check that almost got lynched even when the other person had a red check? No they can’t be town they must be scum. Can’t do association cases until people flip Palmer keeps saying that, can’t do association cases after people flip either because Uhhh you’ll find scum that way we don’t want that! My man has never once voted for scum in this game. Not even accidentally. My man has never even gotten close to voting for scum in this game. On March 11 2024 20:52 VisceraEyes wrote: Wasn't it just? Palmar is almost certainly mafia here. Marv thought so. Rayn thought so. They're both dead to night kills. Palmar as town reviles playing with me, so him wanting me more active in this game bodes poorly for all of you given I'm going out first. He doesn't have fun WITH me, he has fun USING me, and he's salty I haven't given him ammo to do so until now. He voted for me instead of Oats even though he had a town read on me and a scum read on Oats D1. Pretty damning in hindsight, considering Oats was red checked AND was the framer. His filter is all over the place as you'd expect, but there are some nuggets in there. There's this one post locking koshi as town for calling the framer town on D1. As if that's not something mafia are EXPECTED to do. I'm sure he has some reasonable sounding logic, like towncasing is as bad as mafcasing because it invites scrutiny regardless. But he conveniently refuses to factor in that A) it's Koshi and B) we're all big boys and girls and stuff here. There's also a tendency to do mafia-ish things in his posts that I probably just dislike in general...but he does stuff like subtly fearmonger and appeal to peoples' insecurities. I've seen him do it as town but it's his bread and butter as mafia. Palmar is probably Mafia Palmar, and frankly he's probably going to win. I'm actually stopping here for now guys, I have tabs open with MZ iamp and CopCake filters, I had intended to do them tonight - I had actually intended for these all to be in one post - but when I found 2 mafia in Koshi/Palmar I figured the last one can wait. Especially given one of those people is the counterwagon to me and at this point I actually just WANT CopCake to be mafia so I can say the mafia tried to lynch me all game and couldn't - so I'll probably start with CC tomorrow. I HOPE she's mafia but that would be maybe too easy from my perspective. May I present reason number 6. Confirmed town VE’s case on Palmer. Reason number 7. On March 12 2024 00:54 Palmar wrote: By the way I think CC should not be lynched and have a slight townread. I understand the waffling and self-doubt and giving up can be faked, but it still is more likely to come from town than scum. I also think dmb sounds a lot more reasonable this game than last game. For one reason or another, I'm not really considering the following people right now: dp jls koshi cc dmb vivax Then there's like two people I just need to actually get off my ass and read jealous iamp rels and then there's the people I actively think could be mafia jat mz ve Remember, to me I'm really thinking about the game as a "day 1" situation where we have plenty of time and mislynches left. I am not really questioning weaker townreads and tinfoil theories at the moment, there is no need to. Yo JAT, MZ, you are next in his firing line? If you are town fucking vote him maybe? Don’t let him kill you too. Rels Iamp Jealous? Are any of you town? Do you want to be next? If you’re town in this I bet at least one of you is his scum buddy so he won’t be voting them it’ll be you that dies when Mafia needs another lynch. Koshi, cc, dmb He’s not considering you, yay you’re safe from Mafia killing you! After all he needs you on side to kill the others. But look at the post again, were there any reasons behind his reads in this list post? Nope nothing there at all backing up his reads. You are simply Palmers tool of destruction against your fellow town. 8. Fear is the mindkiller, Victory favours the bold Fear not friends we can brave this new day. We can kill the Evil that lurks in this town, Fear not men and women of Grackville! We will triumph and see a new dawn, we will see a new day where fear does not run this town! If ever you fear death, if you ever are presented with a hammer do stay the course and run this vagabond out of town. While I may die for giving my reads before the night ends I have faith you will execute my will and testament. I fear not death from gunshot nor inability to play and win I trust the town I see before me. Do not fear, and do not doubt IamPerfection, Do not waver in spirit as yesterdays lynch was likely TvT all is forgiven, if you stay on the path of righteousness. MZ, Master case poster, Realiser that you alone can absolve your past misdeeds and solve the game. Vivax: Glorious Mayor, Trust in your town, do not let paranoia ruin your mind we are men of metal. Trust in me, Trust in DP trust in Town. Execute the Pretender. JAT: Man of the people Targeted by Palmer the bringer of Doom. I have faith in you. I believe. You can make the right choice. Jealous: My beloved child. One who fights to find scum and has earned my respect. Stay the course Kill the Vile being. DMB: This Palmer dude likes clowns. He must die. CC: Battered child, Ignore DP, even if he survives the night, don’t listen to his read on you listen to my read on you, I see now with VE being Town it’s likely you are both town. The agent of destruction has been revealed to us. It was Palmer all along. Rels: I’ll be honest I ain’t so sure on you but I am so sure on Palmer so like idk kill him. Koshi: You are either mafia or the antichrist has clouded your sight. Just like. Idk think about it let him die. DP: No seriously he’s saying “the right thing” and getting the wrong result every time. Just like think about it you don’t want to be tricked by him sheeping your right? You would look like totally dumb if he sheeped you to a win. My friends my fellow’s my brothers. If I die tonight fear not. With every post Palmer makes ignore it! Chant DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER! If he suggests a wagon do not think do not feel chant! DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER! If you feel your soul wavering fear not trust in the chant, believe in the chant. DOWN WITH THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER! If I die I leave this in your hands. I need at least one page in your filter each dedicated to the chat when morning breaks. Over 48 hours it isn’t unreasonable. | ||
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On March 12 2024 19:39 Palmar wrote: lol DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER! | ||
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On March 12 2024 22:09 Palmar wrote: Yeah no worries. It's actually kinda fun. The one thing I need, and I need other people to back me up on this. I am going to ask people why they think I am mafia, and I'm going to do it aggressively. Here's a very important point. Even if I was mafia, my teammates would absolutely want to get in on the "bus". This means that they would have to come up with good reasons to attack me. So even if townies agree that I must be mafia, be vary of who is on the train with you. And of course keep an open mind. The worst thing that can happen if I get under heavy fire is that town just shuts up and does it quietly. Essentially, if people want to hold hands and try to lynch me, I'm going to make them work for it, and in the process there is going to be a lot of information generated in the thread. The last 2 days have been pretty bad in terms of information. Oats played well but was mafia so it can all be discarded, and VE just didn't even try. That won't be the case if I'm the target. VE did try he made a case on you and a case on Koshi then nobody reacted he got sad and then stopped sure. But also don't listen to the mind controller this is simply a promise of in the future being active and defending himself not actually a post doing anything. DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER! | ||
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On March 12 2024 22:18 Palmar wrote: I mean, I can't exactly call him making a case on me as a townie and writing one paragraph on koshi trying. But maybe that was for other people to see. Ahh yes but where's your last case more than a paragraph long? DEATH TO THE PRETENDER! DEATH TO THE HERETIC! DEATH TO PALMER! | ||
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On March 12 2024 23:22 Palmar wrote: Starting some work: For context, I've basically considered Rels a pseudo-lurker this game, but that may not be the correct take. Due the length of the game and my sporadic availability we may not have been in the thread at the same time much. He basically hated the same post that I hated from TTS on day 1, which is a stance I wasn't aware of. I like that take, even if it's not impossible to make as mafia. In the next few pages I think I agreed with most of what he was saying. I honestly think he just got hypnotized by my enormous balls and ended up getting mislead, but aside from attacking me, he wasn't actually bad in the early game. I come away thinking he's less likely to be mafia than before, but this is just preliminary work. Damn so you start looking into your reads and suddenly they're town can't find anything because maybe you're mafia? Also Koshi's more than happy making complete 180 on various people without much backing it up and without using mason chat is mad sus ngl. Wonder if they're getting on a potential Palmer bus early. | ||
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On March 13 2024 08:32 justanothertownie wrote: For the record - I think we should look into this pool for lynch tomorrow (no particular order): CC MZ DMB + potentially Koshi (he fell off pretty badly since day1, maybe scum Koshi running out of juice? Could & should easily turn up the heat if he is town so some pressure here could be worth it) I am not feeling the Palmar lynch/I don't think he is mafia. Why not? He wants to lynch you. Is he bussing you for an easy win? Backup your read with reasons please. | ||
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On March 13 2024 09:16 justanothertownie wrote: I have multiple times. If you aren't reading then I cannot help you. If this game was as easy as "everyone who wants to lynch me is mafia" then it would be quite boring, wouldn't it? Legitimately sorry if I've missed it. The game is so big I've had to speed read a bit. Glad you acknowledge him voting ve over oats is sus. It would be helpful if you can compile that read on him into one clear post or refresh our memories but understand you need to leave for now. | ||
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On March 13 2024 10:24 Rels wrote: ??? CopCake, why would you lynch Palmar? He's confirmed town in your view, since DP said he would shoot him during N2. Well dp hit scum with his shot so obviously dp is now likely town what kinda a question is that? | ||
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On March 13 2024 10:21 Vivax wrote: What‘s with anyone wanting to kill Palmar first. He‘s someone you can safely take to mylo/lylo. The ones you don‘t want at those are martyrs, trolls and anti-town players. Well apparently people who do that flip town so more important we lynch scum than policy lynch. | ||
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On March 13 2024 10:34 Rels wrote: In the world of CopCake, she and DMB are confirmed town because DP said he was going to shoot them N2 and wasn't roleblocked. Checking DP's posts, he also mentioned he would shoot Palmar VE and I I think she's come around. This strikes me as trying to make cc paranoid we should all be glad her reasoning around this has changed unless you personally believe dp is scum? | ||
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On March 13 2024 10:43 Rels wrote: The dumbtells are in bold Does it really post this as scum? Especially DMB was pushed for a seemingly forced dumbtell earlier? I have a hard time seeing this. I know it's a little dumb but I really do I think yes experienced scum would be struggling to keep up with being as dumb and scummy as town are tbh. | ||
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Vote the pretender kill palmer. | ||
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On March 13 2024 10:52 Vivax wrote: It doesn‘t matter what they flip, they show that they could potentially place the wrong vote when it matters the most. So the alignment wouldn’t matter. Even if iamp switching sucked, VE still self-voted and played against wincon Yeah but, if we kill all the bad town this game mafia wins as there'll be nobody left. | ||
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I think the palmer lynch was key if dp survived another night without them being able to kill Vivax I think paranoia might have set in. | ||
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