[N]A Mostly Normal Game of Mafia - Page 3

Evil Mastermind

Welcome! You are the Evil Mastermind! Uh oh! You have an evil scheme but no minions to help carry out your nefarious plot! On Night 0 you may recruit another player to be your Evil Minion. Your Evil Minion’s win condition will change to match yours. You and that player will be able to communicate HERE. On any night that you and your Evil Minion are alive, you combined have 1 kp that one of you can choose to deliver. If your Evil Minion ever dies, you will be able to recruit a new one the following Night. If you die (by KP or lynch), both you and your Evil Minion will die. You will also die if you ever attempt to recruit a member of the Mafia. Recruiting a bodyguard removes their bodyguard status unless you are also the Mayor. In the event that you recruit a town power role, your minion will retain their use of that role (however, they cannot act and carry out your KP). You win when all other players are dead, even if you are not alive.

On November 26 2020 06:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Can you elaborate more on this?

On November 25 2020 23:40 Vivax wrote:


I think he just wanted to make a funny entrance. Don't really see him being mafia atm.

Shockeyy is always like that. If I'd kill him then not because I think he's scum but because I will never be sure about what he is, probably.

Someone mentioned earlier that Jock seemed less analytical than in his usual town games and I'll agree. I also find it odd in his case that he doesn't think Trfel is town given when they have been teammates and imo Trfel doesn't post like in that game (the "Trfel help" one).

That said my lynch pool atm would be something along Shockeyy, Jock, Fefe. Maybe TickTock because he kinda stopped playing after getting townread by a few.

On November 26 2020 04:59 Vivax wrote:
Grack is right Trfel posted this earlier.



Though it's more like he's talking about the speed at which he came up with them.

Either way, if rayn mayor. Lynch TT, Jock, or Shockeyy pleeaaaaaase? In no particular order but what you might agree with.
I think Hapa might be scum but no way he gets lynched D1.

On November 26 2020 04:10 Vivax wrote:
Trfel I don't really want a Grack lynch. Can we arrange that or do I vote another mayor?

Not because he's supertown or anything but I think he's enjoyable to play with.

Lynching Shockeyy would also help, because I have a hunch that I'm going to think he's mafia at some point anyway based on past experiences. And now I can't tell what he is. Why allow a pokerface in town?

On November 26 2020 06:23 Vivax wrote:


With the flip I might have to reconsider, but I didn't buy the argument that Grack was scum for things around his mayoral campaign. To me it seemed like an obvious shitpost. IE Hapa didn't respect the context which happens often to mafia when they look for reasons to point at someone.

On November 26 2020 07:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hmm okay. We know Grack was not mafia. We also know that Vivax was trying to get the lynch OFF grack. The most likely result will be lynching FF, do you agree? Why does Vivax care? Or well, try to look like he cares when he doesnt have to?

On November 26 2020 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I will be honest i dont really know what slam would or would not post as mafia, or why he would do that. But still, even if this looks like i am contradicting myself, to me it looks like he knew grack is gonna flip not mafia. I think that invalidates your point (2). Also what does that even matter if both me and trfel are town? one of us is gonna decide the lynch anyways and slam has very little to say in that.

I guess we are both stuck with having meta as a layer of looking slam's / vivax's posts "objectively", if you know what i mean?

On November 26 2020 07:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hell even his post after flip he said he assumed grack flipped town. Why dont you fucking look at the flip as first thing you come back after deadline if you are town???????

On November 26 2020 06:46 Alakaslam wrote:
Eh. Yeah I am surprised by the flip, thought he was town.

On November 26 2020 01:50 Jockmcplop wrote:
slam:
Will do what town decides

grack:
TT

TT:
FeFe

Rayn:
FF or TT

Fefe:
TT maybe Shockeyy

Trfel:
me, shockeyy, FF, TT, Grack

We need to get this down to 2 candidates who are trusted by town.

Personally I would have one of grack/rayn as mayor and maybe slam as pardoner.
I will probably revote grack just because I think TT has been super lazy just picking something Fefe said on the first page and leaving that as his scumread for the whole time.



Although I didn't think slam's campaign naturally made him town, i never scumread him and still don't.

On November 26 2020 07:16 Hapahauli wrote:


I feel that you are overly-fixated on the various "effects" of the lynch.

Mafia do things all the time that have no specific purpose. For example, a very "common" mafia play is to scream like bloody murder against the lynch of one townie, only to direct the lynch towards another townie. This allows mafia to look like they are contributing and potentially tell the town "I told you so" if the person that they are defending flips town.

Mafia do these things for the larger purpose of "blending in". "Act like you are contributing without actually contributing".

As for Vivax's actions here, it is more appropriate to consider the utility of what he is doing, especially since he is an experienced and capable town player. Here, his actions and posting are functionally useless, and his attempt to spread suspicion on several targets only hampers town's ability to consolidate on a lynch.

Additionally, Vivax doesn't seem to have any reason to believe that Grack is town. Why is he hard-defending him to that degree? If Grack is null, he basically has the same chance of flipping mafia that any rando lurker lynch would have.