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On April 07 2018 17:56 Skynx wrote:
Pregame excuse: I've probably forgot how to play this game btw

On April 08 2018 04:29 Vivax wrote:


Make it more challenging and flip a coin at least?

On April 08 2018 06:27 Eversince wrote:
lol, spite vote Calix?

On April 08 2018 06:35 Eversince wrote:
@Glowing: I just assumed since it is so early probably personal reasons.

On April 08 2018 06:43 Eversince wrote:
I don't scum read you at all atm.

I actually feel comfortable with you. You can be slightly town

On April 08 2018 06:45 GlowingBear wrote:


+ Show Spoiler +

It's not because it's an intuition that other people can't have the same feeling towards a couple of posts.
I remember rayn was really good with opening posts, that's why I inquired him.

I have an explanation to what I see but I'd rather wait for other people to catch on before exposing it.

On April 08 2018 07:10 GlowingBear wrote:


Found mafia.

On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?

On April 08 2018 18:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also it seems like you dont have aread on me. Which is weird since i (1) made an observation you 100% agree on and (2) i made another (same) observation (to yours) where my conclusion in the opposite to yours.

Still you dont have an opinion on me, and youre also not engaging me on (2).

On April 08 2018 18:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

There is absolutely nothing alignment indicative in GB asking my/eversince's opinion on you, regardless of whatever alignment all three of us are.

The post where you started questioning that is the one i actually think you might be mafia for.

On April 08 2018 18:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why was it relevant to GB's alignment to group me and eversince there?

On April 08 2018 20:03 currentlyhomeless wrote:


Do you normally answer questions with more questions?

If you can rub your fingers together you can probably figure out for yourself why someone who is obviously smurfing would be interested in knowing the state of the game these days.

On April 08 2018 20:37 Vivax wrote:


Why not?

I also wasn't scum leaning GB particularly. I found his post there defensive and that's it. Damdred came out with a hard townread and I gave him something that would possibly oppose his view, and I found his reaction townie all around. Although with fresh eyes today it probably doesn't mean that much. Was just going off the assumption that mafia Damdred would keep himself the option open for a GB lynch. Will roll with it for the time being though.

On April 08 2018 20:58 Vivax wrote:


The enthusiasm damdred mentioned, you can add the bit where he said he will wait for what rayn say. Though I remember GB as being able to be quite pushy as mafia, his posts come with a more negative tone to them when he is.

I think it's quite easy to follow how my attention shifted through those pages. But I'll explicate it in a wild salad of summary: GB somewhere in null land, peaces out. See post from HF about posted from android. Think it's defensive but don't want to scumread him for it alone. Damdred posts townread. Confront him with possible argument for mafia. Nope Vivax. Gloss a bit over GB filter. Agree with GB being town very bluntly worded. Also thinking about what it means for Damdred from that exchange. Damdred can be town too cause not waffly when given opportunity.

On April 08 2018 21:09 Vivax wrote:
Nah haven't done much yet. I'm bit puzzled over what rayn meant with townie dumb on Vivax in one of his first posts. Otherwise I haven't really started scumhunting much yet. But no worries, I will deliver.

I heavily dislike the fact that rayn decided to judge me on paranoia alone though. Cause paranoia means that I scumread someone who is mostly townie looking and as seen from last game that doesn't mean I'm paranoid. It means that I believe a mafia is being widely townread. Since when is going against the grain paranoia?

On April 08 2018 22:07 Skynx wrote:

I mean why lie about why you are going away if you're town though?

On April 08 2018 22:14 Skynx wrote:

What about points on rayn?

On April 09 2018 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I mean like, do you think i as mafia dont push my reads and make "useless questions"?

On April 09 2018 01:06 Vivax wrote:


???

On April 09 2018 01:07 Vivax wrote:
It's a thin border between going guns blazing and openly shit-flinging, Calix.

On April 09 2018 01:22 Vivax wrote:


Considering you are spreading false facts about me 1. Only talking to rayn about timestamps and 2. Me fucking off while I'm in the thread at the same time it's very tempting.

On April 09 2018 01:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am sorry but this is what her scumplay looks like. At least it did last time. Super dumb overly emotional arguments and that's it.

On April 09 2018 01:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I am not, but if you are town this game then your town play is as shit as your scum play.

On April 09 2018 02:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Of course it is not deep, nothing is at this point. But it really sounded like you gave GB basically no "right" answers. I actually thought it made you a bit townier when you posted the Vivax post and in the same post called GB town but then you stated to call me mafia based on something i think you should realize is basically the opposite of what you said....

If you are really telling the truth about thinking i am mafia because "i should vote for you" why are you not reading Holyflare mafia as he agreed with your case (which if correct makes me mafia) but is not voting for me?

On April 09 2018 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well your "not showing commitment" is what people read me scum for every game nowdays. Hell in my last town game i was scum for not showing commitment and also showing commitment at the same time, as i was in the last game as mafia (yeah, ridiculous).

I am not sure why you don't have an opinion on this HF thing? Why is that weird, because from your POV and how you have approached the game i think it should be scummy, no? Also do you think "hasn't done anything else" makes him somehow townier? Because i can't really believe you don't what his (at least) approx skill level is.

On April 09 2018 02:44 GlowingBear wrote:
I like the way this game is going.

Skynx, your scumread on me is complete bullshit. I'm trying not to make unflipped association, but daaaamn, that's hard.

Rayn, I don't have a read on you but I'm not scumreading you for lack of commitment. Just so you know.

On April 09 2018 02:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Okay i am confused.

What HF says when he returns depends on my affiliation right? Which you think (idk if you anymore but at that point did for sure) is mafia. Why does it matter what he says if you think i am mafia? If you are "aware of his reputation" what does it matter if we are either mafia together or i am mafia and he is town? Like.... what difference does his answer make if i am mafia (as you thought) in any case?

On April 09 2018 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:


Yeah, but I won't do that. It's bad.

If you had to choose someone to lynch right now, who it would be?

On April 09 2018 03:53 GlowingBear wrote:


I skimmed people's posts a bit. I'll read it properly later.

I'm asking you these things because... well... that's how I usually play the game.
I don't like your read on Skynx, it was way too fast to call him town. I don't understand why you may be calling rayn scum. Vivax being scum for reevaluating stuff that fast doesn't sound scum to me, I actually believe scum would refrain from exposing himself like that. I mean, he gives a scum read, then Damdred says "I don't think you are right because of these reasons", he agrees with those reasons and townreads me. I think it's a reasonable stream of thoughts.

That being said, considering your contributions, I'd expect a better scumread. It's easy for mafia to call town people town. Comitting to reasonable calling someone scum, in the other hand, is not safe for mafia. When you posted your scumreads, you said you need to reevaluate. When you posted your townreads, you didn't say anything.

It's just... easy to say you're going to lynch someone you find scum by EoD. That's obvious. That's why, although you've contributed, I can't take my weak scumread from you. I admit it's weak, but it is a scumread.

On April 09 2018 04:19 GlowingBear wrote:


Uhm, let me express myself better.
I'm not arguing about your townread on me. I think it's okay. Skynx, in the other hand, is a townread for a couple of posts that in my POV doesn't make him a strong townread. What he did can be faked (calling someone out then reevaluating right after it, then peacing out). I'd never give a townread on him because of that.

I'm okay with your reevaluation process, but until you reevaluate, shouldn't you be lynching who you think it's mafia for now?

I'm not lecturing you on anything. I'm as a good player as you are. You have to reevaluate rayn and vivax. I have to reevaluate you. But if you asked me: "who would you be lynching right now?", I would say "Calix", regardless of the need of reevaluation. You have the same weak scumreads as me, but you're not comitting in being lynching anyone. That's... evasive. Non-committal. That is what sounds scummy to me.

On April 09 2018 04:52 GlowingBear wrote:


Dude lol calm down.

It is a scum-trait to easily call people town and not really comitting to a lynch in the early game. It's not just my opinion. Anyone who has played a lot as mafia knows that calling town people town is a safe play while looking contributive.

It's weak, but it is what it is. It's impossible to have a strong scumread when we have less than 20 pages in 24 hours.

On April 09 2018 04:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Like, Calix, did you see the reason why Skynx is scumreading me? He said it didn't make sense that I was euphoric to play but peaced out to go to the theatre (as we all know, starts at specific times), then he said I couldn't possibly be back 5:40 hours later. LOL.

On April 09 2018 05:15 Vivax wrote:
I propose to get a wagon on n00bking going to motivate him

Secondly, you straight-up accused me of making shit up but you don't even vote me for it?

2) Yeah i can see how you could believe that as town. Bad wording on my part. It was just the first thought that came to my mind. Do you also go with Holyflare 100% mafia because if he "is not bsing" as you accuse me of he should also always be mafia to you?

On April 09 2018 17:00 Tubesock wrote:


I did laugh when his first post is a case on you. I didn’t read past page three on his filter. I’ll accept the point that he will always think you’re scummy in any game (if that’s your point). But the only similarities were the first post is a case about you. The games are a bit different. And if he’s self aware at all, something he likely would try to replicate as mafia.

I’m up for lynching someone else I guess. Not HF though.

On April 09 2018 13:27 Eversince wrote:
I'll say now that Calix/Rayn business seems town on town to me. Doesn't make any sense why either Calix would go so rashly against other Rayn (Who is peculiarly tame this game). Both got a huge amount of attention and the time frame that it happened in doesn't make sense for mafia. Sure, late day hard push for an objective would have made sense. But so early in the day? I don't think mafia would have exposed them self in such a noticeable way that early. Also Calix re-eval is something that I do need to think about. Because that was a little weird. But, people can change there minds. I personally think it was genuine. It just happened in such a fast time frame. But ack, I can't give someone a hard time for realizing their mistake and changing their perspective.

GB's alright in my book. He had something that gave me questions when I was skimming. I'll post those when I re-read. Not bad enough for me to move off my town impression of him.

HF is so scarcely relevant right now that it's kinda scary. My experience with him has been:
1) Very strong points against people as either alignment.
2) Crazy active, this friend's filter at 2 pages after a day and a half r.r.....
3) Very inquisitive. He notices things that other people miss. Like a lot. He usually attacks these things and hammers scum for it. The fact that he's not currently doing it actually makes me think he's town. Even mafia HF exploits people trash comments. HF isn't doing that. He doesn't have any presence at all. So I will give him a light townread for right now (I hope you are ok HF!)

Oats is questionable to me r.r Like he pokes holes in lots of things that are easy to poke holes in. Then doesn't elaborate on them at all. But he's 'lukewarm' in the sense that he hasn't really pushed these ideas towards anything. His largest attempt was on Calix and he still didn't even bother trying to start a wagon. Seems unusual from a mafia perspective to complain points idle in thread for no gain. He can be on my fence.

Skynx is alright for now.

CH has literally no post in the thread that I remember atm. Would lynch.

Vivax is different than I remember from the times we last played. I'll give him time though.

Tubesock seems alright.

Exo_ He did make couple of post that I thought might be constructive. So I'll give him points for that. I'll filter him later and see what those were though. I don't remember r.r

I didn't even realize nOObking was in the game before I filtered him. Would lynch.

Damdie seems ok to me.

I think that covers everything. I'm sorry if I missed something! I will go shower, and be back in about 15 minutes!

On April 09 2018 18:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because i don't really think you're mafia anymore and i am a pussy who will not vote for HF most likely on D1 anyways.

On April 09 2018 20:01 Tubesock wrote:
My lynch order would be something like:

Skynx
Currentlyplayless
Vivax, Exo, Damdred

They’re all pretty much the same really.

Doubt i would vote n00bking. Won’t vote for the rest of the game, including Eversince.

I think the only legitimate criticisms for her is her weird reads. I don’t understand her conclusions on Skynx, Damdred, Oats (not so much what she said in her list but our conversation), or Exo. When I talked to her I think she was being honest and open about her opinions. So I’m not faulting her for that. Anyway, I think she’s town.

On April 09 2018 20:45 Eversince wrote:
ack, i guess i'm misunderstood lol. Calix thinks I'm scum.
Rayn think's I'm scum.

The people I knighted for have gone against me.

Ask your questions, I don't want to be lynched because we misunderstand each other.

On April 09 2018 20:55 Eversince wrote:


I am scum reading Oats though?

On April 09 2018 20:57 Eversince wrote:
Because he hasn't been at all productive with his points. That's a problem. I misword maby?

Envisioning that Eversince is scum, then is she also white-knighting Skynx? Or do you think the way she's defending him feels different, and that he's more likely to be a scummate than just another townie she's trying to cozy up to?

On April 09 2018 21:04 Eversince wrote:
Look at his filter. All of it is 'This is wrong' Ignores caring about. Doesn't push. Doesn't fish around (Like right now! I am here but nothing?)

Day 1 Vote count
remaining

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Eversince (3): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_
Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster
Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless
GlowingBear (1): Skynx
n00bking (1): Vivax
Vivax (1): n00bking
Skynx (1): Tubesock
ExO_ (0): raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet (0): Calix
Not Voting:
Holyflare, Eversince, Damdred

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Currently Eversince is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link)

On April 09 2018 21:22 Vivax wrote:


I find rayns posts very coherent to read. They are just long, but he doesn't beat around the bush. He is also town so I will defend him to my last breath.

You also started posting after I voted for you. Coincidence or caught pants down?

Either way the fact you are discrediting the way rayn posts really puts you in a bad light for me. I think Calix is town too but busy annoying the raynzo for false reasons and you just chime in taking sides lazily with the above post.

On April 09 2018 21:26 Eversince wrote:
None of the most questionable people from my list have wagons. I don't have the time or energy to dedicate into trying.

On April 09 2018 21:32 ExO_ wrote:


Right now I don’t think I have any scum reads I’m super confident in but I’m not a fan of Damdreds 4 posts

On April 09 2018 21:36 Vivax wrote:


I've read his big post though where he concludes with a bunch of reads and the second post after where he readresses something he explained poorly. All of that combined screams super town to me. And it is coherent. Why should I only focus on his early stuff where he was at work instead?

On April 09 2018 21:44 ExO_ wrote:



Damdred has essentially said nothing. He has one post greater than a sentence, and its saying that he doesnt think GB could fake enthusiam.

The Damdred I remember is wordy and analytical. He’s not present at all right now. I could see scum Damdred coasting the first couple days, and then try to make some excuse for it

On April 09 2018 21:49 ExO_ wrote:
@Calix, @Vivax I think you guys need to take a step back. I think this is TvT. Don’t tunnel or start name calling.

On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:


I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail?

On April 09 2018 22:02 Eversince wrote:
You guys are stupid. Kill the fucking Smith. Great idea.

On April 09 2018 22:05 Eversince wrote:


I do this because I need to sleep. I am out of time. I am lynch. I need to change this. I will die for this which sucks but whatever.

On April 09 2018 22:05 ExO_ wrote:


The impression I get is this:

He thinks you’re wrong, but that it doesn’t make you scum. However the language both of you are using has looked like its getting more heated. In particular right now you seem really frustrated and angry Calix

I’ll take another look at Vivaxs filter but he seems towny to me. In the mean time, what do you think of Holyflare right now Calix?

On April 09 2018 22:17 Vivax wrote:
My guess is Skynx/HF/N00bking

If one of these is wrong, Calix is a balls to the wall mafia. But not on D1, she'd have earned that much.

On April 09 2018 22:30 Vivax wrote:


Well his post isn't conclusive. He basically says "rayn writes unintelligible stuff ergo he goes against win con as town and for win con as mafia" but he doesn't go ahead and scum read him for it and remains non committal instead. Being a guy who loves to just say "he can be x or y" as mafia in long overly worded posts as mafia, that makes him mafia to me.

And you are not worth considering for me for day 1 lynch. I find you very disruptive to solving the game so far but I can't discern if you are genuinely like that as town or doing it cause it helps your team so I prefer to follow a wait and see approach. Will be more fun to lynch you for last anyway if you are mafia cause it must take a tremendous effort to do what you're doing.

On April 09 2018 22:31 Eversince wrote:
I parked my vote noob. I don't honestly know if he's scum but I can't get mislynch. I have to try to survive. And out of the options I think noob is the best place.

On April 09 2018 22:37 Eversince wrote:

I agree with your view point to the point I'm offering you a gun. Don't shoot Vivax.

On April 09 2018 22:40 Eversince wrote:
Oh, I might give it to Rayn. I personally trust Rayn to aim it the right direction. But your willingness to rejudge your reads is enough for me to consider you an option to

On April 09 2018 22:40 Calix wrote:


Something about this claim doesn't add up.

On April 09 2018 22:47 Eversince wrote:


I just claimed a blue.... mafia will kill me. Or next level mafia shit if they have a RB, they can RB me to lead a mislynch cycle 2. I don't know if they have a RB though. If they do not though I will take kp tonight.

On April 09 2018 23:00 Eversince wrote:
Fucking lynch me then. At least then I can laugh after the fact.

On April 09 2018 23:14 Eversince wrote:
what makes him mafia HF?

On April 09 2018 23:17 currentlyhomeless wrote:


why is HF so aware of lynch influence

this whole post is just stating facts. my hairs are prickly



oh noooooo

On April 09 2018 23:42 Vivax wrote:


Rayn is likely sheepable but not on ExO, I think that's an incorrect guess. Since rayn also suspects HF of being mafia there is a decent chance that the wagon will get rolling there. We shall see what GB Oats and Damdred think.

Could use more Damdred in here as well.

On April 09 2018 23:51 Vivax wrote:


Given ES claimed GS there is no way she is getting lynched today. That leaves ExO, HF and maybe you as the next candidates for rayn. Since ExO is a no-go for me atm you can guess where I'll be trying to be ending up with rayn, provided he trusts me enough.

On April 10 2018 00:22 Vivax wrote:


It's fucking simple cause the reason I said it is cause I thought HF is mafia going all in with a push on me regardless of who was up for lynch.

On April 10 2018 00:26 Vivax wrote:


Hey fuck you I have to .

On April 10 2018 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Head says leave the claim alive heart says dont because es wants to give gun to probably calix because her reads are good but the difference in pur reads is bas8cally exo and vivax and es hard-townreads vivax who calix scumreads.

On April 10 2018 00:37 Vivax wrote:


Then talk about something else.

1) Skynx entry trying to be overly polished in an environment that really wasn't.

2) N00bking talking again like a politician where he says a shitton while saying nothing.

3) HF trying to lynch me on D1 on flimsy arguments he didn't want to engage me in.

On April 10 2018 01:04 Oatsmaster wrote:

Mmmm anyway i think you are town so eh. Wanna lynch calix?

On April 10 2018 01:11 Oatsmaster wrote:

Backpedaling terrible

On April 10 2018 01:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
You also never answered my question

On April 10 2018 01:21 GlowingBear wrote:


I think there is a high probability rayn is mafia in this game

On April 10 2018 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:


He wasn't a sure townread, and I think his pushes are totally weird rn. He voted eversince, like, what?

On April 10 2018 01:30 Oatsmaster wrote:

So posts have to be interesting to be town? Sure....
Also you don't care about his reads cause you think he's mafia, it's terrible bias

On April 10 2018 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait a minute calix, who do you think is mafia outside of vivax?

On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why damdred?

On April 10 2018 01:44 Vivax wrote:
Unless you construe that as me saying that you push him for lies which is not what I meant. I just meant to say that your reasons don't make him mafia.

On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why don't you go and look?!?

On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:

It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic

On April 10 2018 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote:

He thinks you are mafia and vivax is town lol, it's super clear

On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier?

On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:

So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons

On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck.

On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that?

On April 10 2018 02:41 ExO_ wrote:


Enlighten me, why do you want to lynch me? I have 20 minutes left on my lunch.

And side note trying to read n00bking filter is obonoxious as hell. I’ve never quite seen somebody consantly feel the need to use 20 words when 2 would suffice. Loves to bash TL mafia and toot his own horn like he’s the second coming in TL mafia, but isn’t really helping anybody. Its very hard to be objective towards him with this attitude. And any good player would know that constantly filling the thread with your own ego is more of a distraction to town than it is helping them.

mixed feelings on Vivax, and low post count doesn’t
help, but his thoughts on Calix and the reaction he had when Calix responded feel townie to me

On April 10 2018 02:51 Oatsmaster wrote:

He said it before I said it though? And you said it after he said it

On April 10 2018 03:00 Oatsmaster wrote:

That's gonna be a no from me.

On April 10 2018 03:07 Oatsmaster wrote:

You said changed my read which is no.
I'm convinced you are scum, I think that's pretty obvious

On April 10 2018 03:18 n00bKing wrote:

Can sure be convinced to lynch Oatsmaster. Choosing you as the best D1 lynch strikes me as pretty ridiculous. He's just as obtuse as Vivax, but it feels more sinister. Vivax is maybe more...directionless, than malicious.

On April 10 2018 03:34 Skynx wrote:

I don't want to lynch Calix?

On April 10 2018 03:26 Skynx wrote:

You really don't have to be a savant to read the thread and come up with the conclusions you did in this case lol. You are parroting Tube, GB, rayn and i don't know who else who called my case shit.

On April 10 2018 04:01 Holyflare wrote:


Why does mafia vivax roll over and die?

On April 10 2018 04:10 Damdred wrote:


Just my thought but this vote count is horrendous for town

On April 10 2018 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote:

Why don't we consolidate on you?
Thanks for your consideration

On April 10 2018 04:20 n00bKing wrote:
So, Skynx has a very simple path to self-preservation, which is just to vote against Vivax. He votes against me instead, which (regardless of Vivax's own alignment) just SCREAMS "I know someone has my back."

On April 10 2018 04:24 Vivax wrote:
GlowingBeer could be anyone and whoever it is should be modkilled for that vote.

On April 10 2018 04:27 Holyflare wrote:


He's not mafia. Why are you even mentioning him now?

On April 10 2018 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Insert berating comment here

On April 10 2018 04:42 Holyflare wrote:


It makes perfect fucking sense. You backpedal on vivax because (no reasons) to say skynx looks towny for not voting to save himself but then you can't be fucked to vote A LITERALLY AFK PERSON THAT DOES NOTHING because you're waffling over a guy that unvoted the LEAD wagon to vote a new person with 5 minutes to go???

On April 10 2018 04:47 Holyflare wrote:


Vote counts mean shit all. You just saw noobking get lynched based on absolutely nothing. No words to vote him. Why was he lynched? What case? What reason?

You think vivax is town because he never got more than three votes, was tried to be pushed off of by multiple people and the vote count was a smattering of 2s and 3s?

Makes no sense at all.

On April 10 2018 04:54 Oatsmaster wrote:

Static votes is a bad sign but without static votes we lynched town sooo?!?

On April 10 2018 04:58 Oatsmaster wrote:

You are saying shit that doesn't make sense to justify your waffling

On April 10 2018 05:04 Vivax wrote:
Either way I think that the votes should point to me being town unless you argue both my teammates were afk while I was at majority.

On April 10 2018 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

here

On April 10 2018 05:41 Holyflare wrote:


I think you're partners with currentlyhomeless because there was absolutely 0 reasons not to vote him. If he's town he's a free vote, if he's mafia you can't vote him. If you are town there should be absolutely no qualms of lynching a guy with like 1 page of filter over noobking, especially since you seemed to say we shouldn't lynch people with big filters over smaller ones!! You chose the not to kill him option.

Voting exo is terrible afk useless vote and achieves nothing and makes you look bad for voting off wagons at decision time. It makes you look worse for not voting homeless.

Voting noobking is voting with your mafia read exo and your original mafia read vivax. Saying vivax is town because the votes are static when vivax wasn't even in the lead anymore is the most cop out read possible.

On April 10 2018 18:57 Eversince wrote:
I guess it's to early for people to be playing but oh well. I'm going to summarize:

"Reasons to not lynch ES"
1)Claimed.
2)Un CC
3)Contradiction amass all over the place under direct heat. vs my meta I have little time and everyone who has played with me knows it so why I am not just afk at this point?
4)Has openly lied (in the time frames) to try to divert lynches away from me.

Why would mafia do ANY of this?

On April 10 2018 19:03 Eversince wrote:


Exactly. Why would I do this as mafia? I'm making as much noise right now as possible. Mafia wouldn't do this. If people are annoyed with me that is ok. I don't want town to burn a lynch on me.

On April 10 2018 19:38 Holyflare wrote:
I chose calix

On April 10 2018 19:59 Tubesock wrote:
Voted Calex.

Calex and Skynx are my top scum. Not sure on the third.

On April 10 2018 20:05 ExO_ wrote:
I think HF is town. His anger after the vote at Calix is something I don't think Mafia would be able to fake that well.

I think eversince is telling the truth. A reading mistake like that is exactly the kind of thing that would happen to me. I think he should have to announce who he is passing the gun to in the thread, and have the player he passes it to confirm they receive it.

In this case I think he should give it to HF, as I fully believe he's town. If HF doesn't get the gun, we lynch eversince.

On April 10 2018 20:06 Tubesock wrote:


Ouch, I’ve been misspelling it all game! Apologies tru

On April 10 2018 20:12 ExO_ wrote:


I think deciding whether or not eversince is really gunsmith is worth the time. And I think your voting at the end of day yesterday was really damn weird. Ending by unvoting at the end makes no sense to me whatsoever.

On April 10 2018 20:20 Holyflare wrote:


No, I don't think that at all.

On April 10 2018 20:21 ExO_ wrote:
The more I read your filter Calix the less I like. You have a lot of posts, and it makes me hesitate. However at the end of day yesterday you didn't seem to care at all. A lot of your posts have been heavily argumentative and geared towards upsetting other players and I think distracting them.

Post like this:


You stop short of calling HF scum here. You say his action is scummy but don't call him scum. Like wtf is that?

I'm not sure who else I'd pair you with right now, but you're at the top of my scum list right now.

On April 10 2018 20:33 ExO_ wrote:


Okay so call me scum then -- make a case. You're hesitating on the last part quite a bit. You've been hesitating a lot throughout the game

Look at your post history -- you try to get others to join you on things like a wagon on me for example towards EoD, without placing your own vote there. It's almost as if you didn't care who was lynched at the end of day.

And quite frankly, your posts have a very negative tone. I'm not sure if this is intentional, but it comes across as very abrasive.


Lastly, I think its bullshit to say I'm doing nothing risky. The hell do you want me to do that's risky? What kind of read right now would be risky -- and how does making a "risky" read make me townier? I don't have all day to read the thread, but to say I'm not trying to solve the game is wrong.

On April 10 2018 20:35 Tubesock wrote:


Thunderstorm rolling through so internet is moody.

Skynx is too scum for me. CurrentlyHomeless is completely unreadable so we have to figure out how to get rid of him. I think the last mafia would be in Damdred, or Exo.

I think I’m pretty confident HF is town. In the next few days I’ll reevaluate Rayn, GB, Oats. There’s always one in my townpile. But I think more votes and night kills help figure that out.

HF has stepped up in my opinion. So probably won’t relook at him till d3 when I wonder why he’s alive.

On April 10 2018 20:41 ExO_ wrote:
Rayn shouldn't just be given a pass. I reread page 3 and 4 of his filter -- and he hardly contributed anything. He wanted to lynch me because he disagreed with my reasoning when I entered the thread:


I read this post as saying my reasoning never makes sense, and thus he's scum reading me for it. But if my reasoning doesn't ever make sense (aka last game) when I was town, why am I scum for it now?

Furthermore he was happy to just park his vote on me and afk, and do nothing else towards EoD. He's said hardly anything sense.

I think I Calix/Rayn are two scum.

On April 10 2018 20:47 ExO_ wrote:


My tone has shifted dramatically after being called again -- I disagree, but again does this make me scum? Are you scum reading me or not? I'm not really sure because you aren't calling me scum. You want to call me out for not caring about reads, but you aren't willing to call me scum right now even. AKA you know I'm town and don't want to commit to a scum read on me.

wtf do you mean by the AI line? You're being disruptive and your posts are very abrasive. What is hard to understand here, and where does the AI line come from?

I don't give a shit about whether or not you agree or disagree with my reads. I'm not a super great player who can read others -- I don't think I've ever found scum day 1. So I'm sorry if I'm not making a case complete with great evidence and reads from past games, I'm not that player.

You seem to be far more guilty of not sticking to reads and actually commit to them, than I am.

On April 10 2018 21:03 ExO_ wrote:


How the hell can you criticize my vote on n00b without reading my filter?!??!?!?!?

On April 10 2018 21:12 ExO_ wrote:


You saw me place a vote in the vote thread, but didn't place a vote in the game thread:

Clear something up for me real quickly. Did you see me in real time place my vote in the vote thread?

On April 10 2018 21:13 Tubesock wrote:


Lol that’s fair.

I think it would be awesome if Exo and Calix (spelled it right! Yay) were in qt and were like “we both may get lynched. Let’s shitfight and Jedi mindtrick folks.”

On April 10 2018 21:18 Holyflare wrote:
Can you actually explain the discrepancies calix? Don't think you have. What changed your mind between those two static vote posts?

On April 10 2018 21:25 ExO_ wrote:


So you admitted earlier you hadn't read my filter. How would you know why I voted n00b without reading my filter? You criticized me for voting n00bking but never read my filter to see why I voted him -- and have tried to use my vote on n00b to say I'm scum.

I don't believe you. I don't believe you were waiting for an explanation for my vote on n00b, I believe you're trying to use my vote after the fact on EoD to say I was scum, when I'm not.

You're scum Calix

On April 10 2018 21:35 Holyflare wrote:


I don't give a shit about your eod. I care about why like a few hours before deadline you say "all these static votes probably makes one mafia" but then you SWITCHED opinion to say it makes everyone town. Why did you alter that opinion?

On April 11 2018 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why Damdred is not mafia Calix?

On April 11 2018 18:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:

okay so you are just letting him call you mafia if he keeps playing like he does.
gotcha,.

On April 11 2018 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

So why do you think Damdred voted for you over anyone else when he did?
Like i find is super amusing you seem to be thinking i am more likely to be mafia that Damdred is when he drops a seemingly random vote on you and i share basically every scumread with you other than yourself and Damdred.

On April 10 2018 04:28 Skynx wrote:
GB pushed my lynch all day, even pulled out a rayn scumread out of nowhere for it. Now thinks im actually town. GB mafia claim.

On April 10 2018 23:09 Skynx wrote:
Updated town pile: Oats, HF, GB, ES

I think GB is town here. I tried to read him like he was mafia but it just didn't fit together. His general attitude and approach to the game is pretty towny imo.

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This is an alright list (except exo i guess i don't an opinion on him right now). He keeps bringing up why me and Vivax are scum, trying to convince people to actually lynch us. I can see why stuff on Calix makes sense in his world if he's so keen on seeing my case as shit. I also don't think his eod switch would come from mafia when i go back to evaluate it. Just sit on me comfortably right? My case was shit and lots of scumread on me, no one is going to blame him if he just stayed. He's just town.

On April 11 2018 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No, this is what you literally said.

That by definition means you scumread both of us, otherwise you would have used a different worrding. Damdred is jsut something else and not a real scumread. Like i said early in the game "one of Calix and HF is mafia buth not both". That's when you think only one and not both, in your case you can NEVER claim you think one but not both.

So stop dodging the question and why am i more scummy than Damdred is?

On April 10 2018 16:38 Eversince wrote:
I didn't start with one. I have claimed too early though. Rereading the role pm I can either make or pass a gun per night. So It might still be of use but I'll have to spend tonight making one and then can pass it N2. But I'm probably dead already so r.r.

On April 10 2018 18:15 Eversince wrote:
I'm not going to stay awake to fight this. Games been over for me for a while. I don't start with a gun. I can craft one. It workes as a single shot vig. I can pass it to the same player repeating. I can either craft the gun or give one (after crafted) as a night action. Hopefully that's reworded enough it counts as not quoting the role pm. I'm going to sleep. Have a nice night friends.

On April 11 2018 20:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Mhmm... so gb dying doeant make aense UNLESS but not really... i see Calix.. i see.