Rayn and I just explained why it makes sense though.
While I'm here, I have a question. Who the fuck are you even scum-reading right now? Because it sounds like you have way more than three scum-reads. As for town-reads? Nah.
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Calix
3379 Posts
April 11 2018 19:26 GMT
#1541
On April 12 2018 04:22 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2018 04:19 Calix wrote: On April 12 2018 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax' switch is absolutely freaking terrible though. I believed in him..... ??? From es town to es scum Rayn and I just explained why it makes sense though. While I'm here, I have a question. Who the fuck are you even scum-reading right now? Because it sounds like you have way more than three scum-reads. As for town-reads? Nah. | ||
Calix
3379 Posts
April 11 2018 19:29 GMT
#1542
On April 12 2018 04:19 Skynx wrote: I'll go back to his filter with what i think is good and bad about you guys, I'm yet to do that so thats why. I'll be applying some paint early tomorrow and have the rest of the day off for it to dry so i should be around most of the day leaving me plenty of time to do that. Great...? I'm probably not going to see it. I have to wake up super-early tomorrow and go halfway across the bloody country to London. Fun times. | ||
Oatsmaster
United States16199 Posts
April 11 2018 19:41 GMT
#1543
On April 12 2018 04:26 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2018 04:22 Oatsmaster wrote: On April 12 2018 04:19 Calix wrote: On April 12 2018 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax' switch is absolutely freaking terrible though. I believed in him..... ??? From es town to es scum Rayn and I just explained why it makes sense though. While I'm here, I have a question. Who the fuck are you even scum-reading right now? Because it sounds like you have way more than three scum-reads. As for town-reads? Nah. Es stuff is similar to the night phase stuff, I don't see how one is more convincing than the other, either you think it's all scummy from the start or it's just another mindless mistake. Ever town, tube town, skynx town, vivax is sliddding away but still town for now. | ||
Oatsmaster
United States16199 Posts
April 11 2018 19:41 GMT
#1544
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 11 2018 19:43 GMT
#1545
On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote: Hang on. Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. | ||
Calix
3379 Posts
April 11 2018 19:44 GMT
#1546
On April 12 2018 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2018 04:26 Calix wrote: On April 12 2018 04:22 Oatsmaster wrote: On April 12 2018 04:19 Calix wrote: On April 12 2018 04:16 Oatsmaster wrote: Vivax' switch is absolutely freaking terrible though. I believed in him..... ??? From es town to es scum Rayn and I just explained why it makes sense though. While I'm here, I have a question. Who the fuck are you even scum-reading right now? Because it sounds like you have way more than three scum-reads. As for town-reads? Nah. Es stuff is similar to the night phase stuff, I don't see how one is more convincing than the other, either you think it's all scummy from the start or it's just another mindless mistake. Ever town, tube town, skynx town, vivax is sliddding away but still town for now. Because this actually doesn't relate to her reading the GS role PM incorrectly. For once. No seriously, who ARE you scum-reading? Hipster reads detected with "tube town, skynx town". Pls elaborate. | ||
Calix
3379 Posts
April 11 2018 19:45 GMT
#1547
On April 12 2018 04:41 Oatsmaster wrote: I'm fairly sure I've said why I think you are scum Don't play stupid. You've talked enough shit about other players that I'm sure you must have more. Who are my supposed team mates? | ||
Calix
3379 Posts
April 11 2018 19:47 GMT
#1548
On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote: On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote: Hang on. Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. Okay that makes more sense. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42140 Posts
April 11 2018 19:52 GMT
#1549
On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote: On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote: Hang on. Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. Or ES was just genuinely afk and didn't know who mafia shot but knows she will claim roleblocked anyways (aka i didn't shoot). | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42140 Posts
April 11 2018 19:59 GMT
#1550
Night 1: - ES says something dumb about her assumed role. - Holyflare starts pushing her for it - Vivax says that doesn't make ES mafia Day 2: - ES says there is only 1 kp so rayn must be town - ES doesn't know GB has flipped - Everyone misses this until homelessdude points it out - I agree with his point - Vivax agrees with his point That really isn't what "you were saying" Holyflare, hope you get this one. Now what were the other points on Vivax i need to look into? | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42140 Posts
April 11 2018 20:04 GMT
#1551
##vote Eversince I really don't believe Eversince forgets that glowinbear has flipped. Not only -- as per her ASSUMED ROLE -- should she be paying extra attention to day post (assuming she would be telling the truth that she thinks the person the gun got passed to can shoot the same night) but in addition to that the person who died was GLOWINGBEAR. Like yeah, the flip in itself is super fucking weird. Who says mafia shot gb in Eversince's mind? Why was mafia KP not blocked and me shooting gb? Why does she assume gb was shot by mafia in the first place -- like the way she worded her post was like she was sure gb was not shot by her gun. Of course this makes sense if she doesn't actually know who was shot. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 11 2018 20:08 GMT
#1552
On April 12 2018 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so here is the Vivax on ES thing. Night 1: - ES says something dumb about her assumed role. - Holyflare starts pushing her for it - Vivax says that doesn't make ES mafia Day 2: - ES says there is only 1 kp so rayn must be town - ES doesn't know GB has flipped - Everyone misses this until homelessdude points it out - I agree with his point - Vivax agrees with his point That really isn't what "you were saying" Holyflare, hope you get this one. Now what were the other points on Vivax i need to look into? I didn't see you really pushing this point. Your biggest wall of text was talking about her inconsistencies and talking about the gun and then I saw vivax come in and say "You're right rayn, how did I forget that." Think you wrote about 1 line on the GB/night kill part and if Homeless pushed it then Vivax certainly didn't give him any credit for it. It's a correct point to push and it's why Exo looks really really really bad for not pushing it tbh and she should well be the lynch but I still think Vivax is being opportune. I realise I'm pretty tunneled at this point though so I'll stop hammering on about it for now. | ||
Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 11 2018 20:11 GMT
#1553
On April 11 2018 20:57 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2018 20:53 ExO_ wrote: This whole ES nonsense is really hard to understand. I believe he’s town, one of my first games in TL mafia I fucked up on mechanics...I can believe a town ES thinks he could pass a gun off to be used that night (even though its completely wrong). However knowing there was only one KP without knowing GB is dead is really wtf. Still the question I have to ask myself here is: Why would a scum ES not know that GB was dead, or rather make a post not claiming to not realize GB is dead? I can’t think of a good reason. I think its much more likely ES is town playing really poorly, than scum faking it somehow. Also wtf is Vivax in the thread during that whole conversation going “Hey HolyFlare though, he’s scum”. I don’t like it. I’ve liked Vivax a lot less day 2 "guys I didn't know gb was dead so I'm definitely town" is a perfect reason to "not know" because you pretend to dumb tell. Really hate this post. You town read es but then give a legitimate reason to disregard that read (knowing there is 1kp but not on who) and then disprove yourself. I think I hate it so much that you're very likely mafia. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42140 Posts
April 11 2018 20:14 GMT
#1554
On April 11 2018 17:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + ever knew that there was only 1 nk and posted about it after the flip which means if ever is town, they would have read the daypost which said GB died but then less than 3 (?) hours later when pressed for reads ever slipped and included GB roflmao this actually makes sense. Eversince elaborate please? On April 11 2018 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2018 09:31 Eversince wrote: Ok, let me try to break this logic down for you then. I gave the gun to Rayn (town!Rayn) Shoots somebody. (mafia!Rayn) Shoots town. The fact there was no double kp and Rayn says he did not get the gun confirms Rayn town. If Rayn was mafia they could of doubled kp last night. If their is ever double kp from this point on it is either SK or Rayn is mafia. That is silly to risk in mafia!Rayn so Rayn is town. So at the same time Eversince does know there were not 2 flips at night but then she doesn't know Glowingbear died. On April 11 2018 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2018 17:30 Tubesock wrote: On April 11 2018 17:20 currentlyhomeless wrote: On April 11 2018 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay Mr- whoeverperson you are. Play time is over. Your posts aside from the eversince and gb things are completely undecipherable. Noone has any idea why you are scumreading Holyflare. Noone has any idea why you scumreading gb made hf town and how gb dying made him back to scum. Noone has any idea what you are saying about anything in the game. Either you start playing or tell who you are and start playing, or you die. Time is up. You are not allowed to troll this town after this moment. ##vote currentlyhomeless me reading gb as scum didn’t make hf town wtf i thought he and hf were scum together. it was ever being weird and then hf jumping on ever with very similar thought process to my own which made me post this: On April 10 2018 17:20 currentlyhomeless wrote: what is happening. HF baby I’m sorry then I waffled on ever cause I was like na fuck it but niw I’m back to thinking ever is scum cause the claim makes 0 sense and there are too many “mistakes” also if i were scum what kind of moron would i be shoot one of my only scumreads n1? btw anyone who still thinks ever is town pls entertain me for a bit ever knew that there was only 1 nk and posted about it after the flip which means if ever is town, they would have read the daypost which said GB died but then less than 3 (?) hours later when pressed for reads ever slipped and included GB how would ever know there was only 1 nk but not know who it was if ever is town i seriously don’t believe a townie would forget that fast How does a mafioso forget who their night kill target was?? Well how does someone who just said she knows i didn't shoot anyone forget that they actually DID look at the daypost? Like fucking confirmed looked at the daypost. On April 11 2018 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: The only way she would know, without looking at the daypost, that i "didn't shoot anyone" as she claims, is if she didn't actually even try to give me a gun. I know i didn't "push it" because there was nothing else to say at that time and i was arguing with Calix and homelessdude. | ||
Calix
3379 Posts
April 11 2018 20:16 GMT
#1555
Calix (4): Oatsmaster, Tubesock, Holyflare, Skynx Eversince (4): currentlyhomeless, Calix, Vivax, raynpelikoneet Holyflare (0): currentlyhomeless (0): Skynx (0): Not Voting (3): ExO_, Eversince, Damdred | ||
Calix
3379 Posts
April 11 2018 20:17 GMT
#1556
On April 12 2018 05:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: I made this set of posts. Show nested quote + On April 11 2018 17:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: ever knew that there was only 1 nk and posted about it after the flip which means if ever is town, they would have read the daypost which said GB died but then less than 3 (?) hours later when pressed for reads ever slipped and included GB roflmao this actually makes sense. Eversince elaborate please? Show nested quote + On April 11 2018 17:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: On April 11 2018 09:31 Eversince wrote: Ok, let me try to break this logic down for you then. I gave the gun to Rayn (town!Rayn) Shoots somebody. (mafia!Rayn) Shoots town. The fact there was no double kp and Rayn says he did not get the gun confirms Rayn town. If Rayn was mafia they could of doubled kp last night. If their is ever double kp from this point on it is either SK or Rayn is mafia. That is silly to risk in mafia!Rayn so Rayn is town. So at the same time Eversince does know there were not 2 flips at night but then she doesn't know Glowingbear died. Show nested quote + On April 11 2018 17:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: On April 11 2018 17:30 Tubesock wrote: On April 11 2018 17:20 currentlyhomeless wrote: On April 11 2018 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay Mr- whoeverperson you are. Play time is over. Your posts aside from the eversince and gb things are completely undecipherable. Noone has any idea why you are scumreading Holyflare. Noone has any idea why you scumreading gb made hf town and how gb dying made him back to scum. Noone has any idea what you are saying about anything in the game. Either you start playing or tell who you are and start playing, or you die. Time is up. You are not allowed to troll this town after this moment. ##vote currentlyhomeless me reading gb as scum didn’t make hf town wtf i thought he and hf were scum together. it was ever being weird and then hf jumping on ever with very similar thought process to my own which made me post this: On April 10 2018 17:20 currentlyhomeless wrote: what is happening. HF baby I’m sorry then I waffled on ever cause I was like na fuck it but niw I’m back to thinking ever is scum cause the claim makes 0 sense and there are too many “mistakes” also if i were scum what kind of moron would i be shoot one of my only scumreads n1? btw anyone who still thinks ever is town pls entertain me for a bit ever knew that there was only 1 nk and posted about it after the flip which means if ever is town, they would have read the daypost which said GB died but then less than 3 (?) hours later when pressed for reads ever slipped and included GB how would ever know there was only 1 nk but not know who it was if ever is town i seriously don’t believe a townie would forget that fast How does a mafioso forget who their night kill target was?? Well how does someone who just said she knows i didn't shoot anyone forget that they actually DID look at the daypost? Like fucking confirmed looked at the daypost. Show nested quote + On April 11 2018 17:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: The only way she would know, without looking at the daypost, that i "didn't shoot anyone" as she claims, is if she didn't actually even try to give me a gun. I know i didn't "push it" because there was nothing else to say at that time and i was arguing with Calix and homelessdude. Yeah speaking of that, where were you even going with that 'I see, I see' post wrt Damdred? I didn't get it. | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42140 Posts
April 11 2018 20:17 GMT
#1557
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ExO_
United States2315 Posts
April 11 2018 20:18 GMT
#1558
On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote: On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote: Hang on. Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time | ||
Calix
3379 Posts
April 11 2018 20:22 GMT
#1559
On April 12 2018 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol if mafia is just not voting at the moment Actually possible too, lmao. On April 12 2018 05:18 ExO_ wrote: Show nested quote + On April 12 2018 04:43 Holyflare wrote: On April 12 2018 04:15 Calix wrote: On April 12 2018 04:11 Holyflare wrote: Hang on. Es is always the kill here. If she's mafia it might confirm a sk alive too. Huh? If ES is mafia she knows there's one night kill but NOT that it was glowingbear. It might be because their shot got blocked or because mafia didn't kill glowingbear. This would require ES as scum to assume their KP went through and not bother to read the night 1 post....on top of faking everything else. Its TOO many things that have to happen for ES to be scum that involve a combination of knowledge and faking. It doesn’t seem likely to me. It’s like pairing water and oil, it just doesn’t mix together in my mind. I think ES far more likely is just a town struggling on TL for the first time Nobody said she's faking all her mistakes about Gunsmith. I think Oats is the only person who ever suggested Eversince was 'trying to act too bad to be scum' and he doesn't even think that anymore. It's been established that she could fuck up with reading comprehension as any alignment. Get with the times innit. Eversince has played more than one game on TL, lol? Why are you more focused on defending Eversince than finding scum or engaging with your scum reads? | ||
raynpelikoneet
Finland42140 Posts
April 11 2018 20:23 GMT
#1560
On April 11 2018 20:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On April 11 2018 18:31 Calix wrote: On April 11 2018 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: On April 11 2018 18:16 Calix wrote: On April 11 2018 18:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: On April 11 2018 18:05 Calix wrote: On April 11 2018 18:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: On April 11 2018 17:57 Calix wrote: On April 11 2018 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why Damdred is not mafia Calix? He can be but there's not much that sways me one way or the other. I don't understand where he's coming from but I think it's pointless to analyse his posts without any explanations tbh. okay so you are just letting him call you mafia if he keeps playing like he does. gotcha,. "playing" - Good joke. Most people are calling me mafia. Doesn't mean they are all mafia. I don't have the luxury of OMGUSing or thinking most of the people pushing me are scummy when everyone wants me dead. So why do you think Damdred voted for you over anyone else when he did? Like i find is super amusing you seem to be thinking i am more likely to be mafia that Damdred is when he drops a seemingly random vote on you and i share basically every scumread with you other than yourself and Damdred. I don't really get why you are reacting like this to me posting some NK musings that boil down to "one of rayn and Skynx might be mafia for this kill and I think Skynx is more likely, otherwise I don't know why GB died". It's perfectly sensible to consider whether your reads are shit after an unexpected night kill happens. No, this is what you literally said. That GB night-kill only really makes sense if one (or even both) of rayn/ Skynx is mafia. That by definition means you scumread both of us, otherwise you would have used a different worrding. Damdred is jsut something else and not a real scumread. Like i said early in the game "one of Calix and HF is mafia buth not both". That's when you think only one and not both, in your case you can NEVER claim you think one but not both. So stop dodging the question and why am i more scummy than Damdred is? Damdred is what we call "null". I never said he was a 'real scum-read'. I don't know whether it's one or both of you, or even whether I am correct with my assumption that GB died because of his reads. The "I don't know whether it's one or both of you" is why the "or even both" part is in parentheses. Mhmm... so gb dying doeant make aense UNLESS but not really... i see Calix.. i see. Youre talking about this. You clearly implied i am (and skynx) more scummy than Damdred is because you literally said "That GB night-kill only really makes sense if one (or even both) of rayn/ Skynx is mafia" and Damdred is just something else and not a real scumread . When i confront you about it you say actually you are not sure if i am mafia or even if skynx is mafia which doesn't make any sense to me. So like you first concluded gb kill doesn't make any sense UNLESS skynx or rayn or both are mafia, and now you are not really sure fi rayn or even skynx is mafia when nothing on that front hasn't changed (it's impossible to change tbh because regardless of what we have posted after gb was still the night kill and someone shot him -- and you were ONLY talking about that). The last post was sarcastic because i tried many posts and you managed to never answer my question i asked you in the first place and just backpedalled from your earlier conclusion for imo no apparent reason. | ||
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