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On April 18 2018 16:15 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2018 16:10 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2018 15:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 18 2018 15:47 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2018 15:23 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 18 2018 15:15 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2018 15:10 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 18 2018 15:04 Holyflare wrote:
If I am cop fake crumbing a check on rayn why do I never vote him? you cant fucking rewrite history nice try though opening d3 On April 14 2018 04:31 Holyflare wrote:##vote raynpelikoneet  unlucky mate Re-read my giant wall post. Try again. why? its just a giant fake explanation for why you snap voted rayn. oh but you just said you didnt vote rayn? which one is it? you cant even keep your story straight How about checking the vote thread before you spin your bad narrative You just fully committed to a scum claim. You'd rather fling shit at every possible turn than actually try and figure out alignments. None of this questions why I did what I did and instead just endless narratives. i already did and i already knew youd try to spin it as “oh i didnt actually vote rayn cause i didnt put it in the vote thread” thats such a flimsy defense, youre basically setting yourself up to be able to say anything here So let me just confirm. You absolutely know that I didn't vote properly but your line is that I am lying about fake voting? wut there is no town motivation to 1. fake crumb cop 2. put a vote in the thread and then go back on it right after like in the worst case (which fucking happened actually) the actual cop comes out and claims gee i wonder why exo claimed yesterday semi-unluckily for you he also happened to red check you if youre town youre smart enough to know that the actual cop claiming is actually what would happen and you did it anyway which means youre not town
It wasn't a fake crumb. Let's just get this straight. It was pretty much a claim to make rayn do something because, like I said, it was a rayn nk. Exo claiming was nothing to do with my claim either and you are saying my mafia strategy is to trade 1 for 1 with the cop for absolutely no reason.
You have no thought behind why I would claim as mafia in the slightest. That is what makes you mafia. There is an abundance of reasons why I would do a not-hard pressure claim on rayn as town (and I always do this as town which you seem to be neglecting) vs the 0 reasons you have provided for my mafia thought process.
If you're saying I claimed to draw out the cop and fight him why the fuck would I do that? I have 0 time to play this game an an argument about who is cop just leads to my lynch and it's a pointless 1 for 1 trade. Why bother doing that? If nobody claims cop then there should be 3 other claims and we lynch my red check and I trade 1 for 1 again.
Or I could just stay being absolutely town read and not claim and have no fear of being lynched.......????
Like fucking exo was a cop, he was mislynch number 1 on that cycle. I would have no idea and keep pushing him before his cop claim because that would be my mafia strategy for a mislynch. Claiming cop to get rayn lynched who you are now saying is my partner....
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On April 18 2018 16:16 currentlyhomeless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2018 16:12 Holyflare wrote:
Calix is absolutely town and everything of hers that you have tried to construe as scummy today was so bad and twisted I can't comprehend how your mafia brain could even do that. feel free to disprove anything i said on calix. i’ll wait
I already have and you misconstrued it to say calix is defending herself using rayn's bad wifom. That wasn't the case and you tried to misconstrue it further so talking with you about it is pointless. It's a bit sad because you were doing well as mafia and had no reason to go this mad at end game unless you're mafia.
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Tubesock what are your thoughts on any of this? Do you town read ch? If so, why?
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I'm going to say ch/rayn/oats. I think the amount of misconstruing that ch is doing points to someone that wanted to end the game this cycle because we're closing down on his partners. The disparity between calm and collected calix and himself was quite evident when he's pushing not even strong points. Calix is right that he's just hopping from one thing to the other in the hopes that something sticks. Not once has he evaluated ANY of Oat's posts this game/cycle and he was quite happy to vote away on oats based on (?). Now he got antsy that people are being town read and he's forced to throw shit in every direction.
Mafia motivation is quite evident. There's no evaluating of whether someone does something as town or mafia and why.
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On April 18 2018 16:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2018 16:15 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 18 2018 16:10 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2018 15:55 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 18 2018 15:47 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2018 15:23 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 18 2018 15:15 Holyflare wrote:On April 18 2018 15:10 currentlyhomeless wrote:On April 18 2018 15:04 Holyflare wrote:
If I am cop fake crumbing a check on rayn why do I never vote him? you cant fucking rewrite history nice try though opening d3 On April 14 2018 04:31 Holyflare wrote:##vote raynpelikoneet unlucky mate Re-read my giant wall post. Try again. why? its just a giant fake explanation for why you snap voted rayn. oh but you just said you didnt vote rayn? which one is it? you cant even keep your story straight How about checking the vote thread before you spin your bad narrative You just fully committed to a scum claim. You'd rather fling shit at every possible turn than actually try and figure out alignments. None of this questions why I did what I did and instead just endless narratives. i already did and i already knew youd try to spin it as “oh i didnt actually vote rayn cause i didnt put it in the vote thread” thats such a flimsy defense, youre basically setting yourself up to be able to say anything here So let me just confirm. You absolutely know that I didn't vote properly but your line is that I am lying about fake voting? wut there is no town motivation to 1. fake crumb cop 2. put a vote in the thread and then go back on it right after like in the worst case (which fucking happened actually) the actual cop comes out and claims gee i wonder why exo claimed yesterday semi-unluckily for you he also happened to red check you if youre town youre smart enough to know that the actual cop claiming is actually what would happen and you did it anyway which means youre not town It wasn't a fake crumb. Let's just get this straight. It was pretty much a claim to make rayn do something because, like I said, it was a rayn nk. Exo claiming was nothing to do with my claim either and you are saying my mafia strategy is to trade 1 for 1 with the cop for absolutely no reason. You have no thought behind why I would claim as mafia in the slightest. That is what makes you mafia. There is an abundance of reasons why I would do a not-hard pressure claim on rayn as town (and I always do this as town which you seem to be neglecting) vs the 0 reasons you have provided for my mafia thought process. If you're saying I claimed to draw out the cop and fight him why the fuck would I do that? I have 0 time to play this game an an argument about who is cop just leads to my lynch and it's a pointless 1 for 1 trade. Why bother doing that? If nobody claims cop then there should be 3 other claims and we lynch my red check and I trade 1 for 1 again. Or I could just stay being absolutely town read and not claim and have no fear of being lynched.......???? Like fucking exo was a cop, he was mislynch number 1 on that cycle. I would have no idea and keep pushing him before his cop claim because that would be my mafia strategy for a mislynch. Claiming cop to get rayn lynched who you are now saying is my partner.... .... ....???
the part after “if you are saying” is soooo scummy cause clearly that is not what i am saying. such a long post is not necessary for something this fucking simple.
town hf does not fake crumb cop in that scenario. because town hf knows that fake crumbing cop would out the real cop.
given the ACTUAL EVENTS in thread, the real cop actually did out himself. whether it was because hf fake crumbed or not is not clear because he happened to get a red check between hf and rayn. he also voted hf yesterday. and up until it was clear that everyone believed exo’s claim, hf attacked exo for claiming and threw shade on it and exo’s crumbs.
but feel free to deny that hf. those are all just simple facts that make you scum
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fake crumb fake cop claim w/e same difference
splitting hairs on the word i use is also pretty fucking scummy.
you cant deny that after that “vote” you even asked tube in thread why your read would change. anyone who saw that would basically assume you are claiming cop with a red check on rayn. if i were a cop and saw that i would 100% call you out on it and then vote you.
which unsurprisingly is what exo did, though again the only unlucky part for you is that he actually did have a red check
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also being scum here with rayn is 100% possible. you could be scum with vivax or oats here too.
fake claiming cop with a red check on rayn (who you know to be scum) is definitely a play you can make because youre smart enough to know that others will think you cannot both be town if youre both alive d3. bus but win 2 cycles later, if people dont want to kill rayn you can just kill another townie. which we did so yay for scum
now in this situation its lylo and its very likely that whoever is scum will bus as well. so either oats or rayn or even both could be scum with you but i highly doubt it cause calix is far more likely to be scum than either of them and definitely both of them together.
but it sucks cause atm we are not together and you probably wont die today
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alright i have to go now and wont be back for another 14-15 hours
so vivax & oats & rayn
whichever two of you is town please vote hf.
if any of us is voting wrong scum will just switch at deadline and we lose the game
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I think all of us even the two and hopefully not three mafia agree Oats is the lynch today.
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On April 13 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2018 07:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 07:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 06:58 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 06:57 Vivax wrote:
Definitely want to lynch you for this cause there is only scum motivation for you to do what you did. so is HF still mafia or you dropped that because you "caught" me It doesn't matter what he is cause you're mafia regardless of what he is. that makes no sense On April 13 2018 06:51 Vivax wrote:
HF confirmed my version you have BEEN ATTACKING FOR ZERO REASONS unless you either are 1) scum with HF or 2) filled with TMI to the brim that makes you defend townies for the worst of reasons. And add to this your hipster read on ES that 3 other people agreed with me? man, thats such a strong argument You're telling me they're all town? TYVM
Calix (4): Oatsmaster, Tubesock, Holyflare, skynx, ExO_
remember this post? It related to the votes above. Basically Oats was the lonely mafia on the off wagon when ES was lynched and the fact they were indeed all town (if we believe TS) reinforces me in the belief that this was TMI.
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Day 4 Vote count
remaining
Oatsmaster (3): Tubesock, raynpelikoneet, currentlyhomeless, Vivax, Holyflare
raynpelikoneet (2): currentlyhomeless, Calix, Oatsmaster,
Holyflare (2): currentlyhomeless, Tubesock
Not Voting (0):
Currently Oatsmaster is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link)
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On April 18 2018 16:35 Holyflare wrote:
Tubesock what are your thoughts on any of this? Do you town read ch? If so, why?
I read CH town. I don’t read his last posts as slinging shade to see what will stick. I see him in the exact spot I’m in. We’re on the verge of being swept. I think it’s a natural time to be reevaluating and looking in different places.
Oatsmaster has only voted for Calix. I find that super weird if he’s scum. I’ve seen town do that. Not sure I’ve seen scum do it. I’m going to check to see if he’s ever done that. 
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On April 18 2018 18:45 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 07:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 07:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 06:58 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 06:57 Vivax wrote:
Definitely want to lynch you for this cause there is only scum motivation for you to do what you did. so is HF still mafia or you dropped that because you "caught" me It doesn't matter what he is cause you're mafia regardless of what he is. that makes no sense On April 13 2018 06:51 Vivax wrote:
HF confirmed my version you have BEEN ATTACKING FOR ZERO REASONS unless you either are 1) scum with HF or 2) filled with TMI to the brim that makes you defend townies for the worst of reasons. And add to this your hipster read on ES that 3 other people agreed with me? man, thats such a strong argument You're telling me they're all town? TYVM Calix (4): Oatsmaster, Tubesock, Holyflare, skynx, ExO_ remember this post? It related to the votes above. Basically Oats was the lonely mafia on the off wagon when ES was lynched and the fact they were indeed all town (if we believe TS) reinforces me in the belief that this was TMI.
Yeah but he ONLY voted Calix (until today anyway), why isn’t it he thinks she’s scum? And you’re assuming that scum wouldn’t just pile on ES? Why TMI for Oats?
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On April 18 2018 19:27 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2018 16:35 Holyflare wrote:
Tubesock what are your thoughts on any of this? Do you town read ch? If so, why? I read CH town. I don’t read his last posts as slinging shade to see what will stick. I see him in the exact spot I’m in. We’re on the verge of being swept. I think it’s a natural time to be reevaluating and looking in different places. Oatsmaster has only voted for Calix. I find that super weird if he’s scum. I’ve seen town do that. Not sure I’ve seen scum do it. I’m going to check to see if he’s ever done that.
CH isn’t evaluating our alignments though. He’s trying to find something that will make a town player switch votes from mafia to HF/me.
Oats has scumread me forever, not that weird.
You’re making the mistake of looking at WHAT he’s doing and not WHY he’s doing it. Bad idea.
Anyway I am changing my vote to Oats. Votes are not great right now.
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On April 18 2018 19:30 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2018 18:45 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 07:13 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 07:13 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 07:11 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 07:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 06:58 Vivax wrote:On April 13 2018 06:58 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 13 2018 06:57 Vivax wrote:
Definitely want to lynch you for this cause there is only scum motivation for you to do what you did. so is HF still mafia or you dropped that because you "caught" me It doesn't matter what he is cause you're mafia regardless of what he is. that makes no sense On April 13 2018 06:51 Vivax wrote:
HF confirmed my version you have BEEN ATTACKING FOR ZERO REASONS unless you either are 1) scum with HF or 2) filled with TMI to the brim that makes you defend townies for the worst of reasons. And add to this your hipster read on ES that 3 other people agreed with me? man, thats such a strong argument You're telling me they're all town? TYVM Calix (4): Oatsmaster, Tubesock, Holyflare, skynx, ExO_ remember this post? It related to the votes above. Basically Oats was the lonely mafia on the off wagon when ES was lynched and the fact they were indeed all town (if we believe TS) reinforces me in the belief that this was TMI. Yeah but he ONLY voted Calix (until today anyway), why isn’t it he thinks she’s scum? And you’re assuming that scum wouldn’t just pile on ES? Why TMI for Oats?
Don't care what he voted but "they agreed with me" as a means of justifying his position heavily points towards them being town and him mafia cause you wouldn't say that about someone of whom you don't know the alignment.
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And don't be stupid and vote off Oats please he basically posted baby seal.
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I am all in on CH/ rayn/ Oats so the only thing left for me to do is to convince you two that this is the mafia team. rayn/ CH will be doing their best to convince you that HF/ Calix is the team. I am saying this to make it explicit what our agendas are.
Like that is the game. HF/ Calix vs rayn/ CH/ Oats. Nobody is compromising from this point onward. Basically you two will decide who wins the game.
Instead of looking at individual posts ('micro'), look at what everyone has done this game ('macro'). Look at what HF and myself have been doing this game. Then look at how little rayn and Oats have done. Look at who actually CARES about solving the game and you will have the answer.
And Oats is always mafia here, lol. There is no magical tinfoil world where he is town who just decides to diddle himself at LYLO. He's hardly posting anything because he doesn't want to compromise mafia agenda.
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went back to Oats.
I’m probably passing out in under an hour.
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On April 18 2018 19:42 Calix wrote:
Instead of looking at individual posts ('micro'), look at what everyone has done this game ('macro'). Look at what HF and myself have been doing this game. Then look at how little rayn and Oats have done. Look at who actually CARES about solving the game and you will have the answer.
I disagree with you about CH not caring about the game. To me he’s very much trying to solve it.
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On April 18 2018 19:49 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2018 19:42 Calix wrote:
Instead of looking at individual posts ('micro'), look at what everyone has done this game ('macro'). Look at what HF and myself have been doing this game. Then look at how little rayn and Oats have done. Look at who actually CARES about solving the game and you will have the answer.
I disagree with you about CH not caring about the game. To me he’s very much trying to solve it.
Yeah, he is definitely trying, but he's defending all the wrong players (rayn, Oats!) and digging up 'dirt' on the townies. He's formed his conclusion (HF/ Calix = mafia) and is manipulating and distorting the facts to fit his agenda. That's why he is mafia.
I will probably have to get out the wall-posts at some point to show what I am talking about because you don't see what I see. But when I was talking to him, I could tell he didn't give a flying fuck about whether I was wrong-headed town or mafia. I know when someone's trying to understand my perspective and he was not doing that. Because he already knows I am town and he has to twist what I say to make it look like I'M the mafia instead.
I will give him this though, he brings a mean scum game.
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