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On April 10 2018 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:22 Fecalfeast wrote: Role info in OP updated. Duplicate roles are possible Lies Normals never have dupe roles.
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Rayn is never mafia in this game and if you dismiss me scumreading someone cause the arguments he uses against me are simply.not.honest.arguments as OMGUS then do that and be ready to get shat on in postgame.
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On April 10 2018 01:21 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so let's talk to skynx right, he drops 2 cases and doesn't vote his strongest read for 2 reasons. Either rayn is mafia and skynx is mafia or skynx is just dumb. Dumb regardless of his alignment. So unless you think rayn is also mafia, skynx is just dumb. I think there is a high probability rayn is mafia in this game
Since when???
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On April 10 2018 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 00:12 GlowingBear wrote: I must say our votecount looks terrible. Here is a list of people that we should be lynching today:
1. Skynx 4. ExO_ 6. Eversince 7. currentlyhomeless 8. Calix 12. Vivax 13.Damdred
In order of my preference:
Skynx is the best option. He came to the thread, made a very bad case and instead of choosing his most scumread, he voted me because "rayn had a lot of questions to answer". This is not a townie thought process. A town lynches the scummiest and votes the scummiest. Also, he just peaced out of the game.
Vivax doesn't sound like Vivax. Not contributive. Not chasing information in thread.
Exo sounds so emotionally dettached from the game. Also calling me out without further pursuing me was weird. He isn't really commenting on the hot topics of the thread, but mostly following his own agenda.
Calix, I don't know. I can see her changing her POV on rayn and me. But it feels so weird. Especially when rayn attacks her agreeing with me she looked scummy, then she also scumreads him, and then they both drop their scumreads in a flinch.
Currentlyhomeless, currentlyuseless.
Damdred, he is simply not playing the game and I hate it.
Mmm yes glowing bear, I see a lot of rayn is mafia in this most recent reads post.
I'm not sure on rayn and I don't think HF and rayn are day1 lynches, that's why they aren't in that list.
Come on.
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On April 10 2018 01:24 Vivax wrote: Rayn is never mafia in this game and if you dismiss me scumreading someone cause the arguments he uses against me are simply.not.honest.arguments as OMGUS then do that and be ready to get shat on in postgame.
I'm not dismissing the arguments, I just believe there are way better arguments on other people.
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On April 10 2018 01:24 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:21 GlowingBear wrote:On April 10 2018 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so let's talk to skynx right, he drops 2 cases and doesn't vote his strongest read for 2 reasons. Either rayn is mafia and skynx is mafia or skynx is just dumb. Dumb regardless of his alignment. So unless you think rayn is also mafia, skynx is just dumb. I think there is a high probability rayn is mafia in this game Since when???
He wasn't a sure townread, and I think his pushes are totally weird rn. He voted eversince, like, what?
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I keep reading n00bking but it really doesn't leave me any wiser as to what any of his opinions could be. It just reads to me like he talks about stuff and moderates here and there but doesn't want to do anything.
N00bking do you have some sort of reads list in your mind with a quick explanation on why you think what you think? Doesn't have to be about every player in the game just about those you have a strong opinion on.
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On April 10 2018 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:24 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:21 GlowingBear wrote:On April 10 2018 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so let's talk to skynx right, he drops 2 cases and doesn't vote his strongest read for 2 reasons. Either rayn is mafia and skynx is mafia or skynx is just dumb. Dumb regardless of his alignment. So unless you think rayn is also mafia, skynx is just dumb. I think there is a high probability rayn is mafia in this game Since when??? He wasn't a sure townread, and I think his pushes are totally weird rn. He voted eversince, like, what?
Which gives him a "high probability of him being mafia this game" because...? Not being a sure town-read =/= TOTES MAFIAH.
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But I won't be lynching rayn today, so I'd rather not talk about him right now. There are better lynches.
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On April 10 2018 01:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 00:12 GlowingBear wrote: I must say our votecount looks terrible. Here is a list of people that we should be lynching today:
1. Skynx 4. ExO_ 6. Eversince 7. currentlyhomeless 8. Calix 12. Vivax 13.Damdred
In order of my preference:
Skynx is the best option. He came to the thread, made a very bad case and instead of choosing his most scumread, he voted me because "rayn had a lot of questions to answer". This is not a townie thought process. A town lynches the scummiest and votes the scummiest. Also, he just peaced out of the game.
Vivax doesn't sound like Vivax. Not contributive. Not chasing information in thread.
Exo sounds so emotionally dettached from the game. Also calling me out without further pursuing me was weird. He isn't really commenting on the hot topics of the thread, but mostly following his own agenda.
Calix, I don't know. I can see her changing her POV on rayn and me. But it feels so weird. Especially when rayn attacks her agreeing with me she looked scummy, then she also scumreads him, and then they both drop their scumreads in a flinch.
Currentlyhomeless, currentlyuseless.
Damdred, he is simply not playing the game and I hate it.
Mmm yes glowing bear, I see a lot of rayn is mafia in this most recent reads post. I'm not sure on rayn and I don't think HF and rayn are day1 lynches, that's why they aren't in that list. Come on. You literally never mention rayn other then just now when I said that rayn had to be mafia for your post on skynx to make sense.
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On April 10 2018 01:17 Vivax wrote: What are HFs scumreads btw? Rayn, me and Kush?
Not so much rayn but maybe rayn, you, kush. Possibly also Eversince.
Skynx/nk/exo(need to read)/tube(need to read) /gb(need to read/possibly buddying by not pushing me)/damdred null.
Calix/oats towny. I need to look way more into the middle pile but at a stretch.
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On April 10 2018 01:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:On April 10 2018 01:24 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:21 GlowingBear wrote:On April 10 2018 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok so let's talk to skynx right, he drops 2 cases and doesn't vote his strongest read for 2 reasons. Either rayn is mafia and skynx is mafia or skynx is just dumb. Dumb regardless of his alignment. So unless you think rayn is also mafia, skynx is just dumb. I think there is a high probability rayn is mafia in this game Since when??? He wasn't a sure townread, and I think his pushes are totally weird rn. He voted eversince, like, what? Which gives him a "high probability of him being mafia this game" because...? Not being a sure town-read =/= TOTES MAFIAH.
He can be mafia and I think the probability is high but I'd rather see more of him. I've already said I don't think HF and Rayn are day1 lynches.
I was thinking about rayn's actions right now and it sounded scummy to me. I wasn't analysing it before.
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On April 10 2018 01:23 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 00:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 09 2018 22:17 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 22:05 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote: Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad. I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail? His evasion of his weird-arse read on me. He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false". He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him. WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN? The impression I get is this: He thinks you’re wrong, but that it doesn’t make you scum. However the language both of you are using has looked like its getting more heated. In particular right now you seem really frustrated and angry Calix I’ll take another look at Vivaxs filter but he seems towny to me. In the mean time, what do you think of Holyflare right now Calix? I'm not feeling anything in particular. I think people misread the language I use as being 'angry' when it's just how I talk. If I was actually angry then it would be obvious. I agree with his Vivax posts. However I don't really trust him. He accused rayn after I did. Now he accuses Vivax alongside me. Looks like a pattern. Nothing substantial to back it up, just wary. I would probably not want to lynch him today though. Vivax looks well bad even without HF's points. How does vivax look bad if you assume HF never posted about him? Isn't this just asking why I think Vivax is mafia? My current opinion is that his posts are bland and uninteresting. He hasn't said anything engaging. He has an entire scum-team theory yet I do not give a damn about ANY of his scum-reads. Instead of pushing his reads, he takes on this defeatist attitude about convincing others to vote for his reads. He called me town despite saying I was pushing rayn for false reasons (which is not a town tell ever) and never explained that despite me asking him about 39580670 times. His reaction to being called out about the "HF pushing me because a mafia's on the line" quote looks like flailing scum to me. I also don't get why he's getting emotional. Which is not necessarily scummy by itself but it's not helping me think he's town. So posts have to be interesting to be town? Sure.... Also you don't care about his reads cause you think he's mafia, it's terrible bias
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On April 10 2018 01:28 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:25 GlowingBear wrote:On April 10 2018 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 00:12 GlowingBear wrote: I must say our votecount looks terrible. Here is a list of people that we should be lynching today:
1. Skynx 4. ExO_ 6. Eversince 7. currentlyhomeless 8. Calix 12. Vivax 13.Damdred
In order of my preference:
Skynx is the best option. He came to the thread, made a very bad case and instead of choosing his most scumread, he voted me because "rayn had a lot of questions to answer". This is not a townie thought process. A town lynches the scummiest and votes the scummiest. Also, he just peaced out of the game.
Vivax doesn't sound like Vivax. Not contributive. Not chasing information in thread.
Exo sounds so emotionally dettached from the game. Also calling me out without further pursuing me was weird. He isn't really commenting on the hot topics of the thread, but mostly following his own agenda.
Calix, I don't know. I can see her changing her POV on rayn and me. But it feels so weird. Especially when rayn attacks her agreeing with me she looked scummy, then she also scumreads him, and then they both drop their scumreads in a flinch.
Currentlyhomeless, currentlyuseless.
Damdred, he is simply not playing the game and I hate it.
Mmm yes glowing bear, I see a lot of rayn is mafia in this most recent reads post. I'm not sure on rayn and I don't think HF and rayn are day1 lynches, that's why they aren't in that list. Come on. You literally never mention rayn other then just now when I said that rayn had to be mafia for your post on skynx to make sense.
I never mentioned rayn while scumreading Skynx either. You asked it, I said the probability was high. End of story. I'm not doing unflipped association.
My argument makes enough sense. A town mindset is to lynch the scummiest. So he vote the scummiest. They don't have to be mafia together for my argument to be true, although it gets stronger if they both are mafia.
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I'm not asking for a push on rayn. I was just wondering about this rayn scum-read which you never really talked about before and which I do not understand still.
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Anyway, I think Skynx is a good lynch and I'm voting him. I have to go now.
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On April 10 2018 01:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:22 Fecalfeast wrote: Role info in OP updated. Duplicate roles are possible Lies I assume you've found your Day 1 lynch then: Fecalfeast.
Alright, so duplicate roles are possible. If a Gunsmith happens along who hadn't seen Eversince's claim yet (lets say Damdred, for example) then there would be very minimal value in performing the counterclaim.
On the upside, no such thing as a mafia Gunsmith. If Eversince is able to pass a gun to who we tell her to pass it to, she's verified Town. There also cannot be a mafia Jailer to stop her from passing a gun, so she'll only be stopped by a mafia roleblocker.
I randomly feel like there's a decent chance of there being a mafia roleblocker in the game, so even if her claim is real instead of fake, I don't necessarily expect a gun to get passed on Night 1. But even though she's a better lynch now than before the claim, I'm inclined to at least give her the opportunity.
There are still 2 votes on her, but unless someone disagrees with the above, I think those votes should move off, instead of being added to.
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Wait a minute calix, who do you think is mafia outside of vivax?
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On April 10 2018 01:30 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:23 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:17 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 00:53 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 09 2018 22:17 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 22:05 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 21:58 Calix wrote:On April 09 2018 21:56 ExO_ wrote:On April 09 2018 21:54 Holyflare wrote: Vivax why are you mafia. So so sad. I don’t get a scum vibe from Vivax at all. Can you explain this read in detail? His evasion of his weird-arse read on me. He called my reasons for scum!rayn "false". He had also accused me of making facts up to scum-read him. WHY DOES HE THINK I'M TOWN? The impression I get is this: He thinks you’re wrong, but that it doesn’t make you scum. However the language both of you are using has looked like its getting more heated. In particular right now you seem really frustrated and angry Calix I’ll take another look at Vivaxs filter but he seems towny to me. In the mean time, what do you think of Holyflare right now Calix? I'm not feeling anything in particular. I think people misread the language I use as being 'angry' when it's just how I talk. If I was actually angry then it would be obvious. I agree with his Vivax posts. However I don't really trust him. He accused rayn after I did. Now he accuses Vivax alongside me. Looks like a pattern. Nothing substantial to back it up, just wary. I would probably not want to lynch him today though. Vivax looks well bad even without HF's points. How does vivax look bad if you assume HF never posted about him? Isn't this just asking why I think Vivax is mafia? My current opinion is that his posts are bland and uninteresting. He hasn't said anything engaging. He has an entire scum-team theory yet I do not give a damn about ANY of his scum-reads. Instead of pushing his reads, he takes on this defeatist attitude about convincing others to vote for his reads. He called me town despite saying I was pushing rayn for false reasons (which is not a town tell ever) and never explained that despite me asking him about 39580670 times. His reaction to being called out about the "HF pushing me because a mafia's on the line" quote looks like flailing scum to me. I also don't get why he's getting emotional. Which is not necessarily scummy by itself but it's not helping me think he's town. So posts have to be interesting to be town? Sure.... Also you don't care about his reads cause you think he's mafia, it's terrible bias
Picking the most 'eccentric' read and acting like that negates all my other points is bad. Since you think he's town, feel free to try and change my mind.
Why do you say I'm biased? Reads like you think I am town while you call me scum.
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On April 10 2018 01:31 Calix wrote: I'm not asking for a push on rayn. I was just wondering about this rayn scum-read which you never really talked about before and which I do not understand still.
Rayn buddies me saying he thinks you're mafia but for different reasons that I thought. Colours you red, then quickly dismisses it. He inquires homeless plenty of times, never votes him. He then comes back to the thread, calls eversince mafia, vote her, peaces out.
Does it make sense to you? He was after homeless a lot of times, yet his push never landed on a conclusion.
That's where I'm at.
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