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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote: Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:42 n00bKing wrote: Well I guess that explains why I said neither of those things, then. NVM ignore that, why does mafia claim gunsmith | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:44 Vivax wrote: Unless you construe that as me saying that you push him for lies which is not what I meant. I just meant to say that your reasons don't make him mafia. Why didn't you clear this up earlier, may I ask? | ||
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Vivax
22407 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:45 Calix wrote: Why didn't you clear this up earlier, may I ask? Cause I don't have 8 arms and 8 keyboards like some kind of nerdy indian goddess and I was already busy answering to too much shit already. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote: Actually noobking, explain why mafia claims Gunsmith in her position. 1) Since this ruleset allows for duplicate roles, a counterclaim from a real Gunsmith will not be as damaging as it would be otherwise. Good reason to fake claim a power role instead of just trying to pass for Vanilla. 2) Since this particular ruleset doesn't keep the roleblocker from choosing the same target on successive nights, Mafia Eversince has a never-ending excuse for failing to pass the gun and verifying her roleclaim. 3) Since this particular ruleset doesn't give notifications to people when they are roleblocked, the mafia roleblocker can continue to roleblock town players while Mafia Eversince pretends to be roleblocked, and no Town players can say "but I was roleblocked too..." Not all rulesets will follow ANY of those three parameters, much less all three of them. But THIS game presents something of a perfect storm, for a fake Gunsmith claim. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote: Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote: Why exactly do you think Damdred is super-town, Oats? Do share. He thinks you are mafia and vivax is town lol, it's super clear | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:47 n00bKing wrote: 1) Since this ruleset allows for duplicate roles, a counterclaim from a real Gunsmith will not be as damaging as it would be otherwise. Good reason to fake claim a power role instead of just trying to pass for Vanilla. 2) Since this particular ruleset doesn't keep the roleblocker from choosing the same target on successive nights, Mafia Eversince has a never-ending excuse for failing to pass the gun and verifying her roleclaim. 3) Since this particular ruleset doesn't give notifications to people when they are roleblocked, the mafia roleblocker can continue to roleblock town players while Mafia Eversince pretends to be roleblocked, and no Town players can say "but I was roleblocked too..." Not all rulesets will follow ANY of those three parameters, much less all three of them. But THIS game presents something of a perfect storm, for a fake Gunsmith claim. Why not claim something that can't be verified? Why even claim in that situation?!? It's so far from EoD. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote: It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D | ||
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Vivax
22407 Posts
Still waiting on N00bking to post anything that looks like he's trying to solve the game. Cause talking about what could happen at night is something he can talk about at night and just looks like he's posting filler. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote: Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:53 Vivax wrote: Voted Skynx. Still waiting on N00bking to post anything that looks like he's trying to solve the game. Cause talking about what could happen at night is something he can talk about at night and just looks like he's posting filler. Vote cliax what the heck | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:50 Oatsmaster wrote: He thinks you are mafia and vivax is town lol, it's super clear You might have a point here. In any case, I noticed you said 'ExO looks terrible' or something to that effect, want to elaborate on that? | ||
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote: There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. | ||
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n00bKing
United States1202 Posts
On April 10 2018 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Why not claim something that can't be verified? Why even claim in that situation?!? It's so far from EoD. Claim something that can't be verified, and people might say "meh, that can't be verified" and then be more inclined to lynch through the claim. With THIS claim, they might reflexively think it CAN be verified, without realizing until later that it actually cannot. And claim so far from EoD if she legitimately wanted to leave the thread and go to bed. She told Vivax she would be around for another 45 minutes to an hour. An hour later she finds herself in the vote lead, at the time she's supposed to be leaving. So she makes the claim. As the excuse for the early claim, she says her "time is up." But she then spends the entire next HOUR defending herself, when she sees that people are NOT reacting positively to the claim. After that hour, she OFFICIALLY declares that she is now going to bed. (Like, for realsies, this time, peoples.) But then spends ANOTHER half hour defending herself from new posts instead. Spending 90 minutes defending herself, when the entire excuse behind the early claim was that she was "out of time" and had to leave. If she were actually Town, then this post: On April 09 2018 23:00 Eversince wrote: Fucking lynch me then. At least then I can laugh after the fact. could very well have been the last thing she said, instead of us seeing all the things that followed it. But if she were scum and felt increased responsibility/obligation to her teammates (since there are fewer of them, if she's scum) then that might explain the 90 minutes she kept getting dragged into answering new posts. I also can't say I care for the fact that she freely discussed reads on everyone from Vivax to DAMDRED (who had been long-term AFK), but ONE topic she refused to discuss (even when asked directly) was WHY she put her VOTE where it is. That's really bad. But in the face of ALL that, I would give her the opportunity to try and pass the gun on Night 1. If she's Town, maybe we'll get lucky and the scum will not have a roleblocker to stop her with. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Skynx
Turkey7150 Posts
On April 09 2018 06:58 Tubesock wrote: Skynx, I feel like your case on GB and Rayn was 1/2 trolly 1/2 real. Rayne answered you, and you seem appeased. Are you townreading him? Have your thoughts on GB changed at all? I’m comfortable townreading Rayne and GB. Calix I don’t know about. I didn’t agree with any of the Rayne criticism and they seemed a tad nit picky. It reminded me of noobking in my last game (noob was scum). But I do like the activity and she seems to be looking at everything. I thought my case was fine at the time it was posted (4-5 pages of content). It's a bit late but rayn and GB can be town for now yes, as they seem to be picked up the game. | ||
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