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On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait a minute calix, who do you think is mafia outside of vivax? ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by. Damdred possible third. Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation.
"duh" is an appropriate addition to the answers to WAY too many of oatsmaster's questions. Is that normal for him?
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On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Wait a minute calix, who do you think is mafia outside of vivax? ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by. Damdred possible third. Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation.
So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons
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On April 10 2018 02:00 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually noobking, explain why mafia claims Gunsmith in her position. 1) Since this ruleset allows for duplicate roles, a counterclaim from a real Gunsmith will not be as damaging as it would be otherwise. Good reason to fake claim a power role instead of just trying to pass for Vanilla. 2) Since this particular ruleset doesn't keep the roleblocker from choosing the same target on successive nights, Mafia Eversince has a never-ending excuse for failing to pass the gun and verifying her roleclaim. 3) Since this particular ruleset doesn't give notifications to people when they are roleblocked, the mafia roleblocker can continue to roleblock town players while Mafia Eversince pretends to be roleblocked, and no Town players can say "but I was roleblocked too..." Not all rulesets will follow ANY of those three parameters, much less all three of them. But THIS game presents something of a perfect storm, for a fake Gunsmith claim. Why not claim something that can't be verified? Why even claim in that situation?!? It's so far from EoD. Claim something that can't be verified, and people might say "meh, that can't be verified" and then be more inclined to lynch through the claim. With THIS claim, they might reflexively think it CAN be verified, without realizing until later that it actually cannot. And claim so far from EoD if she legitimately wanted to leave the thread and go to bed. She told Vivax she would be around for another 45 minutes to an hour. An hour later she finds herself in the vote lead, at the time she's supposed to be leaving. So she makes the claim. As the excuse for the early claim, she says her "time is up." But she then spends the entire next HOUR defending herself, when she sees that people are NOT reacting positively to the claim. After that hour, she OFFICIALLY declares that she is now going to bed. (Like, for realsies, this time, peoples.) But then spends ANOTHER half hour defending herself from new posts instead. Spending 90 minutes defending herself, when the entire excuse behind the early claim was that she was "out of time" and had to leave. If she were actually Town, then this post: Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 23:00 Eversince wrote:
Fucking lynch me then. At least then I can laugh after the fact. could very well have been the last thing she said, instead of us seeing all the things that followed it. But if she were scum and felt increased responsibility/obligation to her teammates (since there are fewer of them, if she's scum) then that might explain the 90 minutes she kept getting dragged into answering new posts. I also can't say I care for the fact that she freely discussed reads on everyone from Vivax to DAMDRED (who had been long-term AFK), but ONE topic she refused to discuss (even when asked directly) was WHY she put her VOTE where it is. That's really bad. But in the face of ALL that, I would give her the opportunity to try and pass the gun on Night 1. If she's Town, maybe we'll get lucky and the scum will not have a roleblocker to stop her with.
So if she was the town gunsmith instead, how would she behave differently from what really happened?
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On April 10 2018 02:03 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote:
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ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by.
Damdred possible third. Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. "duh" is an appropriate addition to the answers to WAY too many of oatsmaster's questions. Is that normal for him?
Except thats not actually how the game works?
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On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Calix wrote:
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ExO_. I haven't filtered him since he's not up for lynch at all but he was making some weird, timid posts when I was with him in the thread. The one where he tells Vivax and I to call it off when Vivax and I were not even fighting was out of place. And he hadn't called me town before that post. Otherwise he has "safe" reads and "okay" posts. Fits the profile of mafia skirting by.
Damdred possible third. Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons
No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town.
Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc.
@n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol.
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On April 10 2018 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:00 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually noobking, explain why mafia claims Gunsmith in her position. 1) Since this ruleset allows for duplicate roles, a counterclaim from a real Gunsmith will not be as damaging as it would be otherwise. Good reason to fake claim a power role instead of just trying to pass for Vanilla. 2) Since this particular ruleset doesn't keep the roleblocker from choosing the same target on successive nights, Mafia Eversince has a never-ending excuse for failing to pass the gun and verifying her roleclaim. 3) Since this particular ruleset doesn't give notifications to people when they are roleblocked, the mafia roleblocker can continue to roleblock town players while Mafia Eversince pretends to be roleblocked, and no Town players can say "but I was roleblocked too..." Not all rulesets will follow ANY of those three parameters, much less all three of them. But THIS game presents something of a perfect storm, for a fake Gunsmith claim. Why not claim something that can't be verified? Why even claim in that situation?!? It's so far from EoD. Claim something that can't be verified, and people might say "meh, that can't be verified" and then be more inclined to lynch through the claim. With THIS claim, they might reflexively think it CAN be verified, without realizing until later that it actually cannot. And claim so far from EoD if she legitimately wanted to leave the thread and go to bed. She told Vivax she would be around for another 45 minutes to an hour. An hour later she finds herself in the vote lead, at the time she's supposed to be leaving. So she makes the claim. As the excuse for the early claim, she says her "time is up." But she then spends the entire next HOUR defending herself, when she sees that people are NOT reacting positively to the claim. After that hour, she OFFICIALLY declares that she is now going to bed. (Like, for realsies, this time, peoples.) But then spends ANOTHER half hour defending herself from new posts instead. Spending 90 minutes defending herself, when the entire excuse behind the early claim was that she was "out of time" and had to leave. If she were actually Town, then this post: On April 09 2018 23:00 Eversince wrote:
Fucking lynch me then. At least then I can laugh after the fact. could very well have been the last thing she said, instead of us seeing all the things that followed it. But if she were scum and felt increased responsibility/obligation to her teammates (since there are fewer of them, if she's scum) then that might explain the 90 minutes she kept getting dragged into answering new posts. I also can't say I care for the fact that she freely discussed reads on everyone from Vivax to DAMDRED (who had been long-term AFK), but ONE topic she refused to discuss (even when asked directly) was WHY she put her VOTE where it is. That's really bad. But in the face of ALL that, I would give her the opportunity to try and pass the gun on Night 1. If she's Town, maybe we'll get lucky and the scum will not have a roleblocker to stop her with. So if she was the town gunsmith instead, how would she behave differently from what really happened?
If she were Town, it makes sense to me that she would have gone ahead and left the thread much nearer to the time she actually said she was going to. Instead of repeatedly saying things like "believe me or don't, I don't care" and "fucking lynch me then" but continuing to defend and defend and defend.
If she were Town, she should have answered a simple and direct question about why her vote went where it went, instead of talking about everyone BUT her lynch target.
These things were both already mentioned in the post you quoted when you asked. y u no read?
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On April 10 2018 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:03 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. "duh" is an appropriate addition to the answers to WAY too many of oatsmaster's questions. Is that normal for him? Except thats not actually how the game works?
What's not actually how the game works?
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On April 10 2018 02:11 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:00 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually noobking, explain why mafia claims Gunsmith in her position. 1) Since this ruleset allows for duplicate roles, a counterclaim from a real Gunsmith will not be as damaging as it would be otherwise. Good reason to fake claim a power role instead of just trying to pass for Vanilla. 2) Since this particular ruleset doesn't keep the roleblocker from choosing the same target on successive nights, Mafia Eversince has a never-ending excuse for failing to pass the gun and verifying her roleclaim. 3) Since this particular ruleset doesn't give notifications to people when they are roleblocked, the mafia roleblocker can continue to roleblock town players while Mafia Eversince pretends to be roleblocked, and no Town players can say "but I was roleblocked too..." Not all rulesets will follow ANY of those three parameters, much less all three of them. But THIS game presents something of a perfect storm, for a fake Gunsmith claim. Why not claim something that can't be verified? Why even claim in that situation?!? It's so far from EoD. Claim something that can't be verified, and people might say "meh, that can't be verified" and then be more inclined to lynch through the claim. With THIS claim, they might reflexively think it CAN be verified, without realizing until later that it actually cannot. And claim so far from EoD if she legitimately wanted to leave the thread and go to bed. She told Vivax she would be around for another 45 minutes to an hour. An hour later she finds herself in the vote lead, at the time she's supposed to be leaving. So she makes the claim. As the excuse for the early claim, she says her "time is up." But she then spends the entire next HOUR defending herself, when she sees that people are NOT reacting positively to the claim. After that hour, she OFFICIALLY declares that she is now going to bed. (Like, for realsies, this time, peoples.) But then spends ANOTHER half hour defending herself from new posts instead. Spending 90 minutes defending herself, when the entire excuse behind the early claim was that she was "out of time" and had to leave. If she were actually Town, then this post: On April 09 2018 23:00 Eversince wrote:
Fucking lynch me then. At least then I can laugh after the fact. could very well have been the last thing she said, instead of us seeing all the things that followed it. But if she were scum and felt increased responsibility/obligation to her teammates (since there are fewer of them, if she's scum) then that might explain the 90 minutes she kept getting dragged into answering new posts. I also can't say I care for the fact that she freely discussed reads on everyone from Vivax to DAMDRED (who had been long-term AFK), but ONE topic she refused to discuss (even when asked directly) was WHY she put her VOTE where it is. That's really bad. But in the face of ALL that, I would give her the opportunity to try and pass the gun on Night 1. If she's Town, maybe we'll get lucky and the scum will not have a roleblocker to stop her with. So if she was the town gunsmith instead, how would she behave differently from what really happened? If she were Town, it makes sense to me that she would have gone ahead and left the thread much nearer to the time she actually said she was going to. Instead of repeatedly saying things like "believe me or don't, I don't care" and "fucking lynch me then" but continuing to defend and defend and defend. If she were Town, she should have answered a simple and direct question about why her vote went where it went, instead of talking about everyone BUT her lynch target. These things were both already mentioned in the post you quoted when you asked. y u no read?
Why would she not want to defend herself from being lynched as town when in actuality, anyone cares way more about being mislynched as a blue than lynched as scum
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I have no idea what you are talking about in reference to her not explaining her lynch target
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On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
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Why damdred? Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town. Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc. @n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol.
Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck.
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Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that?
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On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:08 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:56 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:49 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 Calix wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:44 Calix wrote:
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Don't have anyone else I think is mafia at the moment. I don't think much of his actual posts. Why don't you go and look?!? Because I want Vivax dead or spewing townie out the arse. EOD =/= time to do srs filter-diving to find mafia. It's like 2 more hours, stop being dramatic Have you seen the votes? lol. Best time to be a Drama Queen :D There's nobody here that hasn't decided if they are gonna vote vivax anyway. Why does vivax!mafia ignore your question earlier but answer it now and why does town!vivax answer your question earlier? Mafia!Vivax ignores it because he can't think of a legit explanation for it, duh. And he recently said he was 'too busy responding to other posts' to respond to mine so that would be the town!Vivax explanation. So since he answered it and gave that explanation he isn't scum anymore right? Since that was a significant part of your earlier reasons No because I still don't think he's done anything that 'townie' and his posts are more "meh" which is why I am happy with my current vote. If you think I am wrong then point out where he's done something townie and ELI5. I could be tunneled with "Vivax is underperforming mafia", I will admit, but I don't see anything convincing for him being town. Furthermore, there is also a lot of resistance to his lynch and some pushes towards Skynx (who I think is town but we'll see how he responds to this EOD), n00b (I agree he hasn't posted many explicit reads but I am not convinced this is AI for him), myself (pretty terrible D1 lynch if I say so myself), etc. @n00bking, I do not know much about Oats' play so I couldn't tell you, lol. Literally the only resistance to his lynch is me what the heck.
I meant with wagons. Vivax/ Skynx tied. Calix/ n00b two votes. I would imagine there's a mafia on the line somewhere. I concluded Vivax because his wagon is the one that's most static and somehow hasn't exceeded three votes despite few people properly town-reading or going out on a leg to defend him.
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On April 10 2018 02:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
Calix, you said town vivax behaves exactly how vivax actually behaved this game in reference to explaining his read on you but you literally just ignore that?
No, I said that Vivax already explained a scenario you posited in the thread, which would thus be the explanation for his actions were Vivax to flip town. Because that's what Vivax is claiming happened.
I think this answer was exceedingly obvious, thus making your question terrible.
Has this rather long discussion with moi furthered your read on me in any way?
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On April 09 2018 15:55 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 21:52 Skynx wrote:Wassup guys? I caught two scum. - GlowingBear
This is different than what Vivax picked up on, look at the timestamps here:
On April 08 2018 06:59 GlowingBear wrote:
My god this is a slow start.
It's saturday night, people!
It's not like we're sociable people pursuing sex.
Are we?
On April 08 2018 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, time's up. Going to the theatre and then some alcohol.
I won't be posting until tomorrow. I can't access my account on my phone.
Buh-bye!
15 mins between "I'm super excited let's play!" and "k i'm going out". And then'
On April 08 2018 12:53 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2018 08:23 Holyflare wrote:On April 08 2018 07:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, time's up. Going to the theatre and then some alcohol.
I won't be posting until tomorrow. I can't access my account on my phone.
Buh-bye!
Sent from my Android. ROFL
5:40 til he comes back. Whichever way you look at it it's not plausible. I can imagine scum motivations of doing this but let's not theorycrraft here. Point is there is just a chain of lies here which you really don't need if you're town.
- raynpelikoneet
On April 08 2018 12:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What is the time difference in #118 and #121? Cant see that on phone.
He (appears as) thinks he possibly caught something here. Then completely abandons it. That just doesn't add up. What town!rayn does here is:
1) Quote the posts to look at timestamp difference.
2) If he really didn't learn that in i dunno how many years in tl mafia, ask someone else again to check it.
3) If what he inquires turns out to be nothing, he'd be like "ok ignore this guys i though i saw something"
I remember that one game (town!rayn) I said something in the thread that didn't really mean what i meant and he just didn't let it go for 2 straight day cycles. I also noticed in classic mafia (mafia!rayn) he was so laid back and non-inquisitive, kinda leaving ties loose as in here.
On April 08 2018 12:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Homelessperson are you from the same forum noobking is?
Kinda contemplates the above. What is the point of this question? How exactly does an information that homeless is or is not from the same forum as noobking helps him or town playing this game or make a read on him??
I think this is scum rayn just throwing random questions out there that has nothing to do with anything other than to look town and to appear scumhunting i guess..
rayn is already under fire and has much to answer to so I'll vote GB. Skynx, can you explain your thought process behind the statement bolded in italic?
I wanted you to pick up the game, you seemed troll mode up to that point. If you call my case shitty, yours on Vivax was even worse.
I wanted rayn to pick up the game aswell but he got into a shit-stirring fight with Calix a page behind for reasons i didn't really comprehend. That seemed enough pressure on him to force him play.
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I don’t even know right now. I dont like any of the options after eversince. I switched vote to n00bking because I believe Vivax is town. Id rather be paired up with Vivax and claimed gunsmith eversince than GB and TS at this point.
Gonna filter dive skynk and n00bking right now on my lunch break
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I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything.
Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible.
I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier.
##unvote
##vote exo_
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Day 1 Vote count
remaining
Vivax (3): n00bKing, Holyflare, Calix, Glowingbear
Eversince (1): Calix, raynpelikoneet, ExO_
Calix (2): GlowingBear, Oatsmaster, Damdred
Holyflare (1): currentlyhomeless
GlowingBear (1): Skynx
n00bking (2): Vivax, Eversince, ExO_
Skynx (3): Tubesock, Glowingbear, Vivax
ExO_ (0): raynpelikoneet
Raynpelikoneet (0): Calix
Not Voting (0):
Currently Vivax is set to be lynched.
Voting is mandatory! Place votes in THIS THREAD (link)
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On April 10 2018 02:15 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2018 02:11 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 02:00 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 01:51 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 10 2018 01:47 n00bKing wrote:On April 10 2018 01:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually noobking, explain why mafia claims Gunsmith in her position. 1) Since this ruleset allows for duplicate roles, a counterclaim from a real Gunsmith will not be as damaging as it would be otherwise. Good reason to fake claim a power role instead of just trying to pass for Vanilla. 2) Since this particular ruleset doesn't keep the roleblocker from choosing the same target on successive nights, Mafia Eversince has a never-ending excuse for failing to pass the gun and verifying her roleclaim. 3) Since this particular ruleset doesn't give notifications to people when they are roleblocked, the mafia roleblocker can continue to roleblock town players while Mafia Eversince pretends to be roleblocked, and no Town players can say "but I was roleblocked too..." Not all rulesets will follow ANY of those three parameters, much less all three of them. But THIS game presents something of a perfect storm, for a fake Gunsmith claim. Why not claim something that can't be verified? Why even claim in that situation?!? It's so far from EoD. Claim something that can't be verified, and people might say "meh, that can't be verified" and then be more inclined to lynch through the claim. With THIS claim, they might reflexively think it CAN be verified, without realizing until later that it actually cannot. And claim so far from EoD if she legitimately wanted to leave the thread and go to bed. She told Vivax she would be around for another 45 minutes to an hour. An hour later she finds herself in the vote lead, at the time she's supposed to be leaving. So she makes the claim. As the excuse for the early claim, she says her "time is up." But she then spends the entire next HOUR defending herself, when she sees that people are NOT reacting positively to the claim. After that hour, she OFFICIALLY declares that she is now going to bed. (Like, for realsies, this time, peoples.) But then spends ANOTHER half hour defending herself from new posts instead. Spending 90 minutes defending herself, when the entire excuse behind the early claim was that she was "out of time" and had to leave. If she were actually Town, then this post: On April 09 2018 23:00 Eversince wrote:
Fucking lynch me then. At least then I can laugh after the fact. could very well have been the last thing she said, instead of us seeing all the things that followed it. But if she were scum and felt increased responsibility/obligation to her teammates (since there are fewer of them, if she's scum) then that might explain the 90 minutes she kept getting dragged into answering new posts. I also can't say I care for the fact that she freely discussed reads on everyone from Vivax to DAMDRED (who had been long-term AFK), but ONE topic she refused to discuss (even when asked directly) was WHY she put her VOTE where it is. That's really bad. But in the face of ALL that, I would give her the opportunity to try and pass the gun on Night 1. If she's Town, maybe we'll get lucky and the scum will not have a roleblocker to stop her with. So if she was the town gunsmith instead, how would she behave differently from what really happened? If she were Town, it makes sense to me that she would have gone ahead and left the thread much nearer to the time she actually said she was going to. Instead of repeatedly saying things like "believe me or don't, I don't care" and "fucking lynch me then" but continuing to defend and defend and defend. If she were Town, she should have answered a simple and direct question about why her vote went where it went, instead of talking about everyone BUT her lynch target. These things were both already mentioned in the post you quoted when you asked. y u no read? Why would she not want to defend herself from being lynched as town when in actuality, anyone cares way more about being mislynched as a blue than lynched as scum
LOL
Do you have any evidence that people care more about being mislynched as a power role than they care about being lynched as scum? Because "saying it doesn't make it true." Every scum role is more important to its team than ANY power role is important to the town.
On April 10 2018 02:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no idea what you are talking about in reference to her not explaining her lynch target
What's not to get?! She parks her vote on me, 100% out of nowhere, and says it's the "best place" for it. And then proceeds to discuss anything and everything EXCEPT the player she voted against, and why that is the best place for that vote. Even when directly asked for her reasoning...silence. Yet although she can't be asked to explain her VOTE, or talk about why it's there, or really even make any further mention of the player it's on, she stayed that extra 90 minutes to talk about reads on OTHER players, including even Damdred, who had been a full-blown AFK for quite some time.
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On April 10 2018 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I really dont like Vivax lynch. If i have to i will save him by voting Skynx but i dont really think he is mafia either. I would suggest strongly against voting for Calix. I have no idea about what noobking is because i dont rrally feel like he has said much anything.
Glowingbear started being terr8ble but thats probably town terrible.
I still want to lynch exo for what i have said earlier.
##unvote
##vote exo_
I expected more from you really. Can exo really be the only lynch you can come up with?
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On April 10 2018 02:03 Skynx wrote:Hi, I'm at page 16 right now. Show nested quote +On April 09 2018 06:58 Tubesock wrote:
Skynx, I feel like your case on GB and Rayn was 1/2 trolly 1/2 real. Rayne answered you, and you seem appeased. Are you townreading him? Have your thoughts on GB changed at all?
I’m comfortable townreading Rayne and GB.
Calix I don’t know about. I didn’t agree with any of the Rayne criticism and they seemed a tad nit picky. It reminded me of noobking in my last game (noob was scum). But I do like the activity and she seems to be looking at everything. I thought my case was fine at the time it was posted (4-5 pages of content). It's a bit late but rayn and GB can be town for now yes, as they seem to be picked up the game.
Really? Somehow your conclusions go the opposite of mine as GB to me looked townier earlier than what he does now that he's gone full lazy mode. But it'd be good if you could catch up and deliver your guess.
Sidenote: N00bking still only talking about ES claim.
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