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##vote scott31337
I won't be able to catch up by the deadline. But scott31337 hasn't shown critical thinking, and his activity has been pretty awful. This post shows a lack of critical thinking in particular, he's trying to say stuff, trying to make an argument, but all he really says is that MoosyDoosy is town because he's town, and because he did the same thing last game as town (which obviously does not make him town).
Scott31337 still hasn't taken a stance on me, despite saying that he would many hours ago. Given the lack of original reads and thinking in his posts, I find him getting so upset at MoosyDoosy's play difficult to believe.
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I don't want to lynch The Shining. He said that he was trying to do more work right when the game began to make up for not being able to play Monday and Tuesday, and his posting rate was much higher than it generally is. In addition to activity, his posts show attempts to gain information. Many of The Shining's scum games show fewer, larger posts to try and stay alive, rather than trying to pressure things to gain information.
FarahBlackwing's post about The Shining was very good, particularly with regards to The Shining's slight shows of emotion this game. It's very different from The Shining's most recent mafia game.
I could lynch MoosyDoosy, but I'm more confident in scott31337. MoosyDoosy is a wild card, scott31337 generally puts forward a good effort as town.
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On November 18 2015 01:11 disformation wrote:
@Trfel I get your what you are saying on MoosyDoosy vs Scott and I could vote for both atm, but: as you said MoosyDoosy is a wildcard. How do you propose we handle him? I fear he will just continue to be a wildcard and at some point town has to deal with that. I guess, I feel like time will take care of MoosyDoosy a bit better than it will scott31337. Scott31337 will probably continue to play in about the same way, and I feel like his play to this point is very revealing already (more what's not there than what is).
MoosyDoosy's play certainly can't become any less helpful, as he's shown some investment to the game despite asking to be lynched. It's hard to explain my thoughts, maybe I'm just being insane, but I can't see him playing for a significant period of time while putting a bit of effort into the game and also asking to be lynched. And whatever change he makes from that balance would probably be telling.
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On November 18 2015 01:45 NocturneMage wrote:
Wait, Trfel you are here. You're not on my lynch list but can you explain unless I missed it somewhere, you dropped the scumread on VE or concluded at some point in your filter that VE might not be mafia and then you looked to him and Scott again. So what changed? I'm kind of here, it's a bit complicated, I'd rather not get into it.....
I think that VisceraEyes looks a bit scummy right now, but I would rather lynch scott31337.On November 17 2015 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
No jokes, I just want like SUPER sure of my vote the way I kept on andargued it. It was a content generation thing. This post is the thing I hadn't considered, while I don't like the explanation it makes more sense than what I was considering before.
I haven't had enough time to fully re-evaluate VisceraEyes, but given that almost everyone is reluctant to lynch him today, it's kind of an irrelevant point for now.
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Wait, what the heck?
This push onto Breshke is so mafia-motivated. I don't trust geript at all here.
Look at scott31337's townread of geript. He just says that geript is a top town.
Notice that he repeatedly says "Trfel could be scum or he could be town" in response to me solving the game and pushing my ideas.
He never describes any difference between me and geript, just uses the fact that I had one good game as scum to avoid townreading me. But geript is better than me at mafia, by far, and scott31337 knows this. It's impossible for him not to know that geript is extremely skilled as mafia.
So now geript comes up with this push out of nowhere to prevent scott31337 from being lynched?
I don't like this one bit.
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On November 18 2015 02:24 geript wrote:
Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up. Look at geript's read on scott31337. It's all association, there is no response to the actual case on him. Geript is avoiding defending scott31337's play, because he knows that it can't be done.
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On November 18 2015 04:24 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Why do you have a town read on Breshke Trfel? And why does it specifically have to be mafia motivated at this juncture?
And why would geript who previously had a scum read on moos instead of jumping on the easier mislynch (when scott isn't even anywhere close to being lynched) push with breshke instead.
That makes little sense.
Scott wasn't about to be lynched it was like 4 v 2 in favor of moos. IF scott is mafia geript has no reason to push breshke? Scott31337 had a very good chance of being lynched. That's easy to see.
I'll get back to you in a bit on Breshke, but I don't see the arguments against him at all.
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Like, just look at the way that scott31337 treats me and geript differently.
That does not come from town.
He doesn't even address the argument that I brought up against VisceraEyes, he just says that he needs to figure out my alignment. He doesn't even seem to consider my argument important to determining my alignment, he doesn't talk about it at all.
He has actually done zero this game. Zero.
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On November 18 2015 04:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Actually I really don't think scott had much momentum at all going for him but that's just me and saying that geript is pushing breshke over scott is a gross misrepresentation of the game state. Well, you're simply wrong, the lynch was going to be between MoosyDoosy and scott31337. Given how erratic MoosyDoosy's play is, the lynch balance is extremely up in the air. Any sort of shift away from MoosyDoosy would result in scott31337 being lynched.
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Look, I have a fair amount of experience with this game, and I can tell who's going to be a wagon and who isn't.
I know what I'm talking about.
I'm sick and tired of trying to explain things to people who aren't listening.
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There is clearly a direction in Breshke's filter, and there are also some very insightful comments. The latter is the huge part of Breshke's town play, and it's very present this game.
Looking through Breshke's filter, here's his direction:
Early question to Eversince, ends in town lean
Townread on The Shining
Town lean on geript and ritoky
Scum read on MoosyDoosy
Investigating VisceraEyes
Willing to lynch MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, and scott31337, still trying to figure out VisceraEyes
Votes for MoosyDoosy
The interesting thing here is that he's actually engaging with his scumreads and trying to get more information. He questioned VisceraEyes with a very sensible progression. His reads make sense and his pushes all have a followup.
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On November 18 2015 04:37 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:36 ritoky wrote:
i have large problems with scott posting another "not gonna be here for a long time or actually say anything worthwhile" post. his excuse to content ratio is very high. Yes that is right. What gives me a bit of pause is the cousin with MS thing... By dick move analysis I think scott would not fake this. So he might have genuinely had no time? At least my gut feeling is telling me so. Brain says his filter is... uh... bad. It's not a lack of time thing. Town with a lack of time doesn't produce scott31337's filter.
Scott31337's filter shows zero thinking and zero desire to solve the game. Town with lack of time produces a short, incomplete filter that attempts to solve the game with limited time. The two are completely different.
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Quick Summary of scott31337's Filter
Here's the reads summary of scott31337's first post.On November 17 2015 00:47 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel and Moosy would be my top lynches right now - Eversince 3rd - I'm just not seeing that town spark with all the posting.
I thought Breshke's first post asking questions was okay but then fell off.
Ritoky/VE/Geript top towns
NM/FBW/The Shining not lynching right now but want to see more
Breshke/FF in the meh category
##Vote: Trfel Why is the "not lynching right now but want to see more" category even included?
The reasoning is very lacking. "I'm not seeing the spark" for Eversince's posting, but just read any one Eversince post, it's very obviously pointed and shows a unique mindset. This is a really useless phrase and I don't understand how this is true.
On November 17 2015 05:54 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 05:05 Trfel wrote:VisceraEyes (again)Note: Eversince will be addressed in a following post1. On Eversince and FarahBlackwingEversince's initial post, voting for The Shining On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! Eversince's later post explaining the clear flaw in the above argument: On November 16 2015 06:30 Eversince wrote:
To clarify, The Shining lurked bad last game I played with.
Farah town reads him regardless.
This game, Farah mafia reads The Shining.
He had not even posted yet.
Yeh! It's completely different play! Buggers! Sorry for pointin' it out! VisceraEyes responds to this is a way that doesn't make sense at all. Before my case on VisceraEyes and the second post above from Eversince, VisceraEyes posted these posts: On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is
##vote shining
Statistically it has to be time 100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you. Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town. This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia. 180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment Obviously mafia. ##vote: FarahblackwingSoooo mafia. Lynch today! I actually like this a lot. ##Vote: Farahblackwing What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here? I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit. So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post. On November 16 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 16 2015 05:44 The Shining wrote:
If you want me to explain, the logic of closing your eyes and finding a town less than an hour to d1 by just pointing means statistically you have a higher chance of finding town by being random. By that same logic, snap voting this early on D1 means it has a higher chance of landing on town.
Farrah why do you think the game is boring less than an hour after it started? That feels pretty ñonsensical. Things have to happen for it to be exciting, or boring. Deciding its boring on the 3rd post of the game is pretty weird. And AS I said, it wasn't a random snap vote. It's a vote placed with reason. You may or may not agree with the reason, that's your prerogative and should affect whether or not you place your vote. Not mine. <3 These three posts show that VisceraEyes is treating Eversince's first post seriously. He says that he likes Eversince's argument, and that he's townreading Eversince and scumreading FarahBlackwing because of it. Furthermore, he uses this repeatedly in his argument with The Shining, which apparently leads to a scumread of The Shining, shown by this post (among others): On November 16 2015 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
You're getting awfully anxious about me trusting someone so early Shining, I have to say it looks really scummy to me. Why are you so against me having a townread on someone and a scumread on someone else? After my case and Eversince's post, showing that Eversince's early vote on FarahBlackwing had no basis, VisceraEyes says this: On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!
##Unvote
I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Ok, so he wasn't being serious earlier. Not only did he make a joke, but then he defended his joke several times, to the point of scumreading The Shining for it. I just can't believe this.
2. GeneralFor the moment, let's assume that VisceraEyes was in fact joking with his first series of posts, and let's ignore that this makes no sense. VisceraEyes receives a bunch of town reads after he leaves, notably from geript and ritoky. Notice how VisceraEyes leaves in the same minute that geript posts a strong townread of him. VisceraEyes made three posts upon return, shown below: + Show Spoiler [VisceraEyes' Posts] +On November 16 2015 21:14 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 16:21 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 15:53 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 16 2015 15:50 ritoky wrote:On November 16 2015 15:46 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 16 2015 15:42 ritoky wrote:
why does you playing on other sites render meta worthless exactly? I can give you links to games for reference if you desire, but my play has changed a ton than what it usually was. okay, with your new improved play; could you tell me who is mafia or town? It's not necessarily improved but: Farah disformation Shining geript is this the town list or mafia list? i can't tell I think it's both...the question itself was a little ambiguous so maybe he just answered it as best he could, including both townreads and mafiareads? On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!
##Unvote
I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted.
The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you.
So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by. On November 16 2015 21:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Vote: Fecalfeast
JUST IN CASE THERE WAS ANY DOUBT AS TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF MY POST!!!!!! First post is useless and strange. Why does he answer a question directed to someone else, when he's clearly not really sure? VisceraEyes' next two posts are his thoughts about the game, and the only thoughts about the game that he's posted, assuming that his earlier posts were in jest. He says that he likes most of the people who have been posting (ok, so who doesn't he like then? not useful), and that he doesn't like Fecalfeast. I personally don't really like this Fecalfeast read, but whatever, it's sort of up for interpretation. But this is his ONLY read. Note that he spends a fair amount of this post responding to the townreads he's received. He's very aware of them, and this shows in his play. His activity tanked, he's not being useful or constructive, he made the terrible statement "I like most people who posted so far", which a perfect example of useless and lazy play.
3. Response to meta reads + Show Spoiler +On November 16 2015 05:50 geript wrote:
I'm not voting for VE ever. Hm, people townreading VisceraEyes very strongly with little explanation. Where have I seen this before? This game. Everyone townread VisceraEyes for no reason. I thought VisceraEyes was scum. Everyone ignored me on the basis that "he's town". Guess what, he was scum. In fact, look at VisceraEyes' first post in that game. On August 26 2015 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town.
Marv playing like Palmar makes me vom a little in my mouth. Otherwise I like most everyone who's posted so far. Look familiar? I don't see how the metareads given about VisceraEyes apply to this game. Either ~80% of his posts in this game were not serious, or he is clearly lying to try and explain his play. Ritoky's meta read has nothing to do with what I have presented, he didn't mention the posts related to this at all. As for geript's: On November 16 2015 06:13 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2015 06:09 Trfel wrote:On November 16 2015 05:50 geript wrote:
I'm not voting for VE ever. You're going to need to explain this. Read other VE games. He's really easy to read when he gets semi active. Part of it is based in the fact that VE and I scum hunt rather differently. He takes on an egocentric (in the technical sense not in the asshole sense) view of other players; i.e. How he acts when he's scum and applies it to them. So when you see him jump on certain things in an accusatory way (especially when he's not trying to assream them) he's almost always town. I don't understand this read. I've seen VisceraEyes jump on things and not push them into oblivion as mafia, too. For example, look at the game I linked; VisceraEyes was scumreading both Palmar and I but when Palmar asked him to reread the entire game under the assumption that we were both town and then share his thoughts, he did so (or at least partially did so). My case stands for itself, I've had enough of random meta. I was able to actually follow this case and see your point of view, unlike your first "case". Now I need to decide if you are actually town - or posting scummy cases like you did in http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486978-newbie-student-mafia-xi and try to mislynch everyone to win. This is an extremely useless comment. This says actually nothing. Yet he doesn't unvote until later, and has NEVER come to a conclusion about this. The random unvote timing makes no sense. The lack of analysis of my case makes no sense, he's not even trying.
The fact that he repeats this non-argument, useless comment suggests that he's just trying to avoid my argument instead of address it. He can't scumread me and he knows it, but he's avoiding townreading me and avoiding listening to what I have to say.
Finally, look at his progression on MoosyDoosy.
1. MoosyDoosy is mafia!
2. MoosyDoosy is town for martyring, he did this last game as mafia
3. Votes MoosyDoosy because he wants to kill lazy town
ZERO changed between 2 and 3. Zero. He expected that MoosyDoosy would stop martyring and actually play?
Scott31337 shows zero thinking and zero read progression. This is not a town mindset at all.
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On November 17 2015 00:47 scott31337 wrote:
Trfel and Moosy would be my top lynches right now - Eversince 3rd - I'm just not seeing that town spark with all the posting. On November 17 2015 11:19 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 07:38 Trfel wrote:On November 17 2015 07:33 Breshke wrote:On November 17 2015 07:30 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, any thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast?
What makes geript's ranking out of 7 post any different from a standard list post? I have no problem with VE's read on FF seems to be a classic " he isn't doing stuff so lynch him". IDK i said it was dumb but people normally do stuff out of 10 or a percent or like out of 5. He did 7 so someone could be like "Why the fuck is it out of 7" and he would need to explain which would bring more attention to his reads etc Sorry, I didn't mean your thoughts on VisceraEyes' stance on Fecalfeast, I was looking for your thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast (two separate reads). I don't really understand the whole 7 thing at all. You know that geript is a strong scum player, so why wouldn't he want attention to be paid to his reads? Is geript a player who hides in a corner as mafia? On November 17 2015 07:35 Breshke wrote:On November 16 2015 21:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Also I'm back!
##Unvote
I like the posts since my vote, and it wasn't super cereal anyway as many of you have clearly deduced. Most of the people actively posting I like, I think I dislike Fecal the mostest of anyone who's posted.
The super hard townreads on me from geript and ritoky BOTH gave me massive wood. I think geript's might feel a little over-explainy, but I still can't bring myself to find it suspicious. Pocket achieved for both of you.
So yeah, unless we're lynching a hard lurker, which I'm always down with, I think I prefer a Fecalfeast lynch. Aside from one townread on Ritoky, I really don't know what Fecal thinks in spite of his actively engaging with the thread. I'd believe GTA if that game weren't so old hat, I think he's just mafia trying to skate by. Trefel the bolded makes me fairly sure all the shining stuff was just pressure. Did he say otherwise? On November 17 2015 07:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
No jokes, I just want like SUPER sure of my vote the way I kept on andargued it. It was a content generation thing. Yes, he did. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 08:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:On November 17 2015 00:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
I'm awake,
Anyway I probably will be mostly afk today so I'll try to be concise about my feelings.
1) I am super sure that Shining is town, based on meta and his posts give me a good feeling about them. They are pointed even if you disagree with what he is doing this is an excellent showing of his day one town play. Just a pity we won't see him again until wensday.
2) NocturneMage recent flurry of postings have giving me a good feeling, it felt like he was interacting with the thread as he was catching up instead of trying to be useless and lurking. He also instead of giving excuses is being proactive and trying to get thoughts out there. Good townlean, or at least not lynching today.
3) I'm not sure how people are so sure of VE so early? I probably don't get it because I never have played with him, but the town case on him seemed good and simplistic. So I suppose I will throw him into my town pile and then re-evaluate later.
4) I am not super confident in my eversince read, but I feel like she is town this game.
I also think ritoky is town, but i'm probably the least confident in this, and some of geripts postings have giving me good feelings but i'm not super sure about either. Posts like this make Farah Mafia. And NM is town. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 08:23 FarahBlackwing wrote:
No Moos you are just an someone who refuses to play in any game I've signed up with you in. If you can't be assed to explain your one scum read to the thread when people are trying to evaluate you whats the point.
So frustrating His ass was town in the last game too and did this. Playing against wincon is not cool. Show nested quote +On November 17 2015 08:38 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then your vote where your idea is instead of doing the opposite of what you said you would do.
And not sure what you are referring to with the like Damdred thing and putting my gender in quotation marks.
I really do not care if I am eliminated at this stage. See even if Moosy sucks and I decide not to play with him in the future if he's town - this should not get you down either. A depressed town is a failtown. Please do not! We waited so long for this game to start. Okay? I'm at page 28 and would rather watch the Football game then read this. ##UnvoteI may be back later, or on tomorrow.  In this post, scott31337 is treating MoosyDoosy like 100% town? What?On November 17 2015 14:42 scott31337 wrote:
Fuck Moosy and his lazy ass town game We will not have it. On November 18 2015 02:00 scott31337 wrote:
I have a meeting to go to and then a site to install some AP's. I'll be back before deadline, hopefully - and still only to page 32.
##Vote: Moosydoosy Nothing changed. Nothing at all. Except for scott31337's read, it did a 180.
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Ugh.
This is why I shouldn't lead, I seem to be completely unable to lynch scum.
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I'm getting pretty sick of geript this game.
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On November 18 2015 13:09 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 13:07 Trfel wrote:
I'm getting pretty sick of geript this game. hi Trfel o/ hang around for a bit please. And geript is town. At this point I barely care if geript is town or not, I don't want to deal with him at all.
All he's saying is that I'm bad, no reasoning. He's discrediting me without explaining why, he's not trying to work with me at all. I've responded to the few points he's actually raised, which he's promptly ignored.
I can't stand playing with people who refuse to work with me. And geript is a huge example of that.
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I think I see what you're saying, but...
I don't think that those posts show that disinformation is too self-conscious and defensive.
Also, disformation has been very active, he currently has the longest filter in the game.
You're right in that the way he finally ends up voting for scott31337 looks really suspicious, that doesn't match his earlier posting. That really stands out to me.
I'll let disformation speak for himself.
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On November 18 2015 13:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 13:47 Breshke wrote:On November 18 2015 02:00 FarahBlackwing wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote disinformation
Actually this might be the right way to go today, we can discuss scott/moos during he night and see how we want our vig/cop to act in that regard.
But disinformation isn't committing to anything, hes keeping his options open to see which way the wind is going to blow so that he can conceivably go with thread sentiment. His last two posts have set him up so that he can sheep either side as he has doubts about both. Its interesting to say the least. What do you think of this then moosey? I have some thoughts but want to see what you say first wow congrats for pulling up something in my case that I just accidentally lost! go to filter and look at the very next post after that. ROFL XD
Hahahaha, you made my night 
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On November 18 2015 14:46 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2015 04:42 Trfel wrote:
There is clearly a direction in Breshke's filter, and there are also some very insightful comments. The latter is the huge part of Breshke's town play, and it's very present this game.
Looking through Breshke's filter, here's his direction:
Early question to Eversince, ends in town lean
Townread on The Shining
Town lean on geript and ritoky
Scum read on MoosyDoosy
Investigating VisceraEyes
Willing to lynch MoosyDoosy, Fecalfeast, and scott31337, still trying to figure out VisceraEyes
Votes for MoosyDoosy
The interesting thing here is that he's actually engaging with his scumreads and trying to get more information. He questioned VisceraEyes with a very sensible progression. His reads make sense and his pushes all have a followup. My points on Breshke covered this entirely. Breshke should not be read on his reads. It's about how he interacts with and acts in response to what's happening in the thread. Him blandly asking questions that go no where and lead to no conclusions is part of his scum meta. So what Trfel has pointed towards is specifically his scum meta and Trfel is trying to paint him town for it. I'll address the rest of geript's posts later. But this post is the most ridiculous.
Geript's claims are simply not true. I've tried to illustrate that by describing Breshke's thought process and read progression, Breshke's filter shows questions that are probing his suspects. And Breshke is certainly coming to conclusions, "willing to lynch" is a pretty strong conclusion.
Read Breshke's filter for yourself and it's obvious.
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