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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:03 marvellosity wrote: GB first called out Elvis Damdred (Elvis) going for Sentinel Superbia going for GB all somehow connected. hf. Low hanging frooooooooot | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:27 marvellosity wrote: the question is then, would he play so blatantly differently as mafia? it's not even trying to play similarly. Yes. But you can waffle about it endlessly and come to no conclusion. The simplest explanation would be that he is just mafia. Damdreds filter doesn't really make me strongly lean one way or the other. He is going after the easy targets (not necessarily a bad thing) except for his GB read and I don't know why but that one feels weird. He spends most of his time on that read and does not come to a real conclusion. I don't see why he even spends so many words talking about GB. On November 28 2014 13:12 Damdred wrote: I chose you sno and GB. GB has played oddly by his standards but has a few staples of his town play. This sentence in particular. Half of his filter is explaining how GB is maybe scummy but then he writes this which to me reads like a townlean and would rather lynch sentinel. Another thing I notice is that he is pretty adamant about getting GB to explain his scumread on marv but I don't know what I should conclude from this. He probably wants GB to make himself look bad by doing this because marv is pretty towny. Overall I would absolutely lynch this slot. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:11 marvellosity wrote: it's just a little weird, damdred, that you use meta when talking about sn0 (and others i think) but not at all on the main person you're pushing I'm not really sure I agree, sno is weird in thread and is totally different from last time I played, just not sure he is the lynch today idk. So is GB but there are a few posts and a missing case that drives gbs scumminess for me currently rather than meta. don't think I've played with sent I just think how sent is going about today is scummy. | ||
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justanothertownie
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Damdred
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geript
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:42 Damdred wrote: Spent most time on GB because I'm most familiar with GB probably. I'm more null for you jat but you would rather lynch me? You are null leaning scum and Elvis was scummy -> I would lynch you. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On November 27 2014 20:23 marvellosity wrote: Superbia's underwhelming but it's a little thin. Got nothing on Sn0. One of the reasons I liked Obi is because he asked Superbia about the post he made saying Sn0 was contributing to look like he was contributing. I almost responded to that post as super weak right then, but decided to leave it, and a couple posts later Obi questioned it. And Superbia deflected. Unsure whether it's early game silliness related as yet You may not agree with the motives I bring to townread someone, but when you've got the same impression from the same player, it's nitpicking to say the person is giving weird read. Calling me scummy for that looks scummy to me. On November 27 2014 20:40 marvellosity wrote: my read on GB was Obi related, I thought Obi's question about reading him was pertinent and correct, also I thought GB pulled up a really generic post of Obi's to justify the townread. dunno, maybe he actually believes it though. So, now he says he doesn't know if I really believe that. So his willing to shoot me is justified by a null read. I'd expect town to push me, to ask me questions before calling someone scum. Instead, marv thought I was scum before justifying it, and then, when justified, it's a null read. He doesn't hard push me after that, which is odd, for I am his leaning scum. So, JAT starts pushing Rayn, and marv intervenes with this: On November 27 2014 21:04 marvellosity wrote: In rayn's defence, JAT, he often misremembers how events occurred in past games. I've noticed it several times before. If marv has a leaning scum on Rayn, if he is interested in discovering rayn's alignment: 1) Why is he letting JAT do the dirty work, instead committing to it himself? 2) Why does he intervene like that to make Rayn comfortable with the push? See, he is taking a very passive stance regarding his scumreads, which is a way to hide, to not put his hand in the fire. But still, while commenting things like that, he looks contributive. Now, compare these two posts: On November 28 2014 02:10 marvellosity wrote: well your case definitely demonstrates GB's play is weird as shit Superbia. Whether that makes him mafia is another question. Let's lynch wave instead? On November 28 2014 06:11 marvellosity wrote: Sn0, snap-reads on GB-Elvis-Superbia? They're all grouped in my head. This doesn't make sense. He's being scumreading me. Then he says he is semi gone on me being mafia. Then he says Superbia's post about me it's good and shows that my gameplay is weird, but that doesn't makes me mafia. Now he includes me in a group where there might be mafia in there. I can't understand this stream of thought. And remember: I gave him all of my scum games and he didn't compare any of them with my current gameplay yet, just what he remembers while playing with me. He asked those games for nothing. Another example of him being wishy washy, being passive: On November 28 2014 06:20 marvellosity wrote: well i think i townread rayn now i also think i townread holyflare and geript i townread obi sentinel might be town for terrible reasons palmar wildcard already my list is shrinking I have no problem with townreads. But it's already page 6-7 in his filter and he doesn't have a single scumread instead of calling me scum but not really. It bothers me that he isn't pushing anybody, attacking anybody. He is still taking a very passive instance. Passive stance =\= activity. You can be very active while ACTING passive. Again a non committal post, on spoiler: + Show Spoiler + On November 28 2014 06:25 marvellosity wrote: the thing with HF is, right, I think he would be a bit more "rounded" as mafia. He went hard out the gates at jat and ended up with a list full of non-players and jat, who he kinda seems to be tunnelling. I think as mafia he'd be going at someone more than his original case on jat. but at the same time he backed off jat after i lectured him about it (I like to think it was me). I think a lot of his posts feel ok. i think i missed quite a few of HF's scumgames, but i remember last time i felt ok about holyflare in... maybe cell? i was right there. anyway it's not strong but that's the lean. Now this: On November 28 2014 08:34 marvellosity wrote: I'll check out Superbia's games at some point before EOD. My memory of Superbia is being unmemorable as mafia, it's how i casually guessed at him the couple of games i vaguely saw. not seen him play town i don't think. I just meant he hadn't bought my vote on GB yet. God if Superbia looks good, if he has no information on Elvis, if he has been leaning scum on me, and he thinks there is mafia between us three, WHY ISN'T HIM CONVINCED THAT I'M MAFIA??? Marv is extremely passive. Now, there is also that WoS push that felt completely weird. His vote was completely random and he was convinced by something that shouldn't be motive to drop a pressure vote. Their argument was pretty bad and sterile. Me and Superbia engaged on strong arguments but marv didn't commented on them. He said he would like to see the outcome. Funny. He didn't want to see the outcome of JAT and Rayn, who he had scumreads, and he commented on them. But on me and Superbia? Nah. Now that we've finished the discussion, marv didn't comment on the outcome. Lol Marv, you were going to say you have 11 pages filter right?  Two things: On November 27 2014 09:17 marvellosity wrote: HF, I met someone just like you in the champion of champions game. He had like a zillion more posts than everyone else and flipped mafia You also posted a 58 pages filter game here. I think that, for that pre game stuff, I believe you would go for the active mafia after these things. Your filter argument is utter shit and it makes me believe even more that you're scum as you know you're very capable to keep activity high as mafia. ##Unvote ##Vote: marv | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:44 geript wrote: What was sn0s last game? neat and tidy mafia I believe | ||
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geript
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:46 GlowingBear wrote: You also posted a 58 pages filter game here. I think that, for that pre game stuff, I believe you would go for the active mafia after these things. Your filter argument is utter shit and it makes me believe even more that you're scum as you know you're very capable to keep activity high as mafia. Incorrect. I have never, not even once, posted this much as mafia by this stage. Not even close. try agaaaaaaaaaaain :D:D | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:46 GlowingBear wrote: Marv thinks my early townread on obi is weird, yet he also townread him. You may not agree with the motives I bring to townread someone, but when you've got the same impression from the same player, it's nitpicking to say the person is giving weird read. Calling me scummy for that looks scummy to me. This is an absolutely terrible point, and I can't believe you are so bad as to bring this up? If you're townreading someone for the wrong reasons, it's absolutely right to bring it up, even if i'm also townreading the guy this is mindbogglingly bad GB | ||
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ObiWanShinobi
United States8089 Posts
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote: This is an absolutely terrible point, and I can't believe you are so bad as to bring this up? If you're townreading someone for the wrong reasons, it's absolutely right to bring it up, even if i'm also townreading the guy this is mindbogglingly bad GB Of course you can call that out. Reading me scum for it? Hardly. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:48 marvellosity wrote: Incorrect. I have never, not even once, posted this much as mafia by this stage. Not even close. try agaaaaaaaaaaain :D:D ughhhhh I hate this argument but it's pretty true, especially for marv. Marv do you think a case like that comes from scum? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On November 29 2014 00:51 GlowingBear wrote: Of course you can call that out. Reading me scum for it? Hardly. Yes fucking absolutely. If someone is reading someone town for the wrong reasons it can often be a scumtell. Do you really believe what you're writing??? | ||
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justanothertownie
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