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On August 07 2014 09:43 Amiko wrote: You know the balance of this game better than me (I haven't even played it) but although mafia won the last two games won't this game be even more difficult for town since mafia can kill one of the four people in the cell? Feel free to not talk about this until after the game though, I'll play it either way ^^ and I don't want to put you as a host in a position where you need to talk about strategy before the game begins. And I have only lightly skimmed prior games so I'm sure we can even things out with smart town play :D Having a given 2v1 seems pretty good for town to me. On top of that Mafia has the massive disadvantage to just be given 3 names they have to work with. Yes in the end they can get rid of one but that still leaves two townies they have to adress and mafia can no longer focus on a handful of people their players want to go after. That's a lot easier than having to make up something about every single player in the game. At the same time it does give the game a structure that benefits town in that it reduces chaos but at the same time limits town as they have to lynch within those 3 and can't lynch someone else who's super scummy. In the end I'd say it's a buff for town. Not sure how big of a buff. But it's obviously my first game and I've only come to that conclusion by comparing things to the guide I read. So take it with a grain of salt. | ||
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On August 12 2014 01:59 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I don't even remember which smurf is who anymore.  | ||
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On August 13 2014 22:16 HaruRH wrote: It's a break. Not quitting. I am still going to form some insane games with amiko and glowingbear that will make you guys shed tears. But just that my schedule now is shit and I cant really afford to play mafia games. You don't want an afk townie for 15 hours a day, ya? I just used the word quit to refrain from using another certain 3 letter word that might have shown up on any ctrl+f from hosts to not be confusing for them. There was no misunderstanding to begin with. | ||
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On August 07 2014 03:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Oh, and game isn't starting until the 18th at the earliest but that probably shouldn't be an issue given the signup speed. you're welcome | ||
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A looks entertaining. B looks tough. | ||
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Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed! ##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers | ||
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On August 28 2014 07:17 batsnacks wrote: *bats campaign* but Mr Bat. I'm already running around the Kindergarten square 3 hours a day. People are starting to give me weird looks. Won't all your three mainpoints
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On August 28 2014 07:27 batsnacks wrote: Voting BAT is only recommended for adults age 18+. Please check with your doctor before you begin voting BAT. But I AM 18+... that's my point | ||
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On August 28 2014 07:36 27ninjabunnies wrote: Insta mafia tactic! Please the town. Immediate lynch coming. if you vote for me instead of bat or ritoky I'll make sure group E will be the last group, meaning we don't actually have to do shit and laugh at all the other people who tryhard so much to survive this cruel game! | ||
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On August 28 2014 07:52 ritoky wrote: you scared you gonna give yourself away as mafia early? a brave woman would never put herself last, such hiding types as yourself are women of the past. that mindset needs to go so that we can have proper treatment of women. wouldn't I be more likely to give myself away somewhere along the lines when placed at the end if I were to be mafia? Or does being placed at the end somehow give me the power to play better early on assuming I am mafia? | ||
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On August 28 2014 07:59 27ninjabunnies wrote: I like you  But what about me being mayor? I'm a cute little bunny! fine with me. All I care about is group E being the last one... well and maybe Marvs group not being the first, I want him around either way so something like spot #4 for his group would be nice. If you can agree on that I will rally people behind me to ensure our next mayor is a cute, fluffy bunny despite the fact that you're actually more likely to be mafia than the other people (let's face it, I know my alignment thus you're 50/50 mafia and not 1/3). But since mayor doesn't actually do anything might as well just yolo for personal entertainment On August 28 2014 08:02 ritoky wrote: why are you content with being a selfish coward? why wouldn't you do what is in the best interest of all women? these traits you are displaying are neither healthy for a mayor nor healthy for the future of women's rights. actively stating you intend to place yourself at the end with 0 information in the thread is a selfish act of cowardice that i cannot get behind in any way shape or form. a mayor should do what is right and best for all women, not just herself. your lack of concern for other women makes me believe that you are a misogynist. I don't care about what's best for you. I care about what's funny for me and thus keeps me playing because I know I'm town, point in case: On August 28 2014 07:03 Professor Apathy wrote: Fear not for I am town an will murder all of mafia. Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed! ##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers you can tell your democracy and "what's best for everyone" crap to other people. I don't intend to hide behind some majority that voted for me because "well but people thought that would be best, can't blame me!". I intend to do what I consider to be good and won't hide behind some wall of majority driven whatever-it-is | ||
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why not? I have not seen you bring up a better plan for how to arrange the groups. Mine at the very least promises that Marv is alive until 4th cycle and I can't shitstorm the thread because I don't have to defend myself. Everyone wins, I get to have fun and yet you don't seem to trash my idea without bringing something up yourself? | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:20 Professor Apathy wrote: why not? I have not seen you bring up a better plan for how to arrange the groups. Mine at the very least promises that Marv is alive until 4th cycle and I can't shitstorm the thread because I don't have to defend myself. Everyone wins, I get to have fun and yet you seem to trash my idea without bringing something up yourself? EBWOP | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:39 Holyflare wrote: Excuse me while i ignore all your freedom shit all over again. You didn't push anything to stop mz getting lynched other than "he liked my freedom stuff". If you want to use that to really persuade everyone to vote for a non mafia go right ahead. I'm just not going to listen to you regardless and there are many other much more viable people that I'd rather vote over you. you heard it here first. Holyflare supports my campaign. Support Professor Apathy/cutebunnies-whatever-her-name-was (sorry) And no I'm not vivax. I'd be happy if you can leave me smurfing though, I already dropped more than enough info for people to figure out who I am if they only cared to look at it | ||
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On August 28 2014 08:55 Amiko wrote: initial thoughts from prior games- I'd prefer to put Cell C (my cell) on Day 3 since Marv and Oats are experienced and hopefully will be active enough to have good filters to work with. Day 3 seems ideal to me because it means that there is more accountability for what they post (since one of us is flipped) and I am hoping you'll all see I'm town by then. Day 4/5 is alright I guess because I think I make more use of filters/prior quotes than other players, so if I'm around longer it means more filter to use. But, 3 would be my pick. I wouldn't mind Cell E going earlier because in the games I've read/played with her, ninjabunnies tends to be more active early game and less active on later days. lilwade has been lower-activity regardless of the game day. Dunno Apathy. I'm not voting you, so much I am sure already. Maybe not quite on the level of how-much-I'm-not-voting-ritoky but go figure. | ||
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On August 28 2014 09:02 Amiko wrote: @Apathy: Let's talk about which cell should go first. What player characteristics do you think are good to have in a first cell? I'd put group D first, group A second, group B third, group C fourth, group E last. There's 3 underlying principles here 1) Groups I don't mind having early, that would be group D and A. Nothing is lost if those are screwed up early 2) Groups I would like to have around later on, that's group B and C 3) Group E, I want to be last So here's the reasoning: I want D before A because A might end up in a shitstorm, so having D first gives us a more sensible start I think. That leaves A for second. Group B and C don't really have much all that much difference to them but I agree that C looks a bit more easy to judge and as such I want it on spot #4 to have marv around longer if he happens to be town. If he's not we ignore him just like we did in the invite game. Thus group C comes in spot #3 And Group E comes in spot #5 to have me in the last spot. I highly doubt that reads are going to influence the order at all as I'm not willing to bet anything based on a 24hour read so I'd rather make it by things that are true and beneficial no matter of the alignments of any of the guys in there, like the fact that group A is going to be bloody horrible. | ||
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On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote: You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win? the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah... I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation. | ||
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On August 28 2014 09:28 Holyflare wrote: This is what i am saying. If you are town then your group has the highest win rate for getting a point for town. I don't understand why you'd put yourself last and jeopardise that? I kind of have a tendency to ragequit whenever I'm town and in a position where I have to defend myself against bullshit On August 28 2014 09:28 Not really holyflare wrote: Well, there will be a shitstorm in cell D for sure when mtam figures out who I am. I had beef with mtam. Once. And it was a glorious shitstorm. I be disappointed amiko have not figured out who I am yet. You're a dastardly dead lover in my eyes. Good thing you just told him! | ||
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On August 28 2014 09:33 Amiko wrote: @Apathy: Why is D a more sensible start than any other cell? Also, if you feel C is easier to read you should agree with me that it should be in the first three. If a cell is relatively easier to read, it should be in the first three days so we can be sure we get a vote on it. I don't think I'm able to read Holyflare within 48 hours at all (that is, first lynch cycle). He's someone who can pull off things I'd give other people townpoints for as mafia as well, thus delaying my read on him because I have to keep that in mind. Same goes for Marv despite my idea that I think I'll be able to read that group pretty comfortably a bit later on. I mean I don't know who the two smurfs in D are but I hope it's more sensible than having group A as a starter  I'd be somewhat fine with swapping C and B I think. Not sure yet though. I just don't think we have to be afraid of a 3-0 stomp here and can play a bit more risky due to the set-up thus leaving stronger players for later. | ||
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On August 28 2014 09:43 Amiko wrote: Didn't mafia win the first two games 3-0? I didn't read the whole things but the pictures on the OP suggested that I basicly think we benefit more by boosting our "good" lynches than by boosting our bad options just slightly and thus having the "good" lynches early. Look at the mafia database and you'll find that (at the time Kita did his post) randomly lynching on d1 would have resulted in more mafialynches than lynches that happened in all of mafia, again at that time in point and I haven't cared enough to take a look and see wether that changes. I do think an easy group is still a coinflip if put early and not improving our chances as much as other people apparently think while shitty groups mostly just stay shitty no matter the time given. I do think that an easy group gets extremly easier if given enough time to solidify the reads while a shitty group only gets marginally harder to read when put early. Add to that that we'd have strong players around later on, who we have good reads on at that time and I like my idea more than what other people think right now. | ||
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On August 28 2014 09:53 Amiko wrote: @Apathy: To me, the suggestion of Cell D earlier seems off because there are two unknowns off the bat. Granted, I am pretty sure I know who Not Really Holyflare is now, but I don't think you do. It seems to me that cell would be tougher to read. I'm also a little mixed on your response - As not having Cell B on D1... that explanation feels kinda weird to me. I don't think there's any cell where I know now that I can read all three players. If we can read two, that's enough. So why highlight one player you can't read? I never played with misterymeat. Holyflare I feel like I can read only after a little time, thus his group would be on spot #3 for me. About D, unknown is still better than certainly bad group. I don't want C and B on day 1 for reasons stated above so it's only between A and D for me really. | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:10 Not really holyflare wrote: Its simple. A -> D -> C -> B -> E. A because bh gets harder to read as time passes on. D next because I'm confident I can lynch the sad C because marv gets less confident of his reads later on. B because hf& wos needs time to choose who is mafia. E last because. that's close to my order. How about we put our votes together and you vote me with a compromise on both sides. I've got D -> A -> B -> C -> E, and A -> D -> C -> B -> E. is what you got what do you say about D -> A -> C -> B -> A? | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:14 Holyflare wrote: Also lilwade is probably definitely 100% mafia. He's posted in his newbie game quite a few times since we got our pm's and not here at all well in that case you can trust me to only have the best of | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:17 Not really holyflare wrote: How about you vote me and so I can set the groups at D -> A -> C -> B -> E? Since my group will be the first, I literally cannot change the ordering without being lynched for lying. Easier to vote for me, don't you think? but but... I want to be mayor  fine but I'll unvote the second you change that order. And I assume that last A in your post was an E because you got group A twice in there. Don't even think about playing dirty tricks on me if that wasn't a typo! | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:26 Not really holyflare wrote: that was YOUR typo by the way. indeed lol. Sorry 8( | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:45 Holyflare wrote: But if marv is mafia he's pretty straightforward to read and would be an easy point for town which we might not ever reach because you'd be placing him last. Which is why making orders before everyone has spoken is silly. if we assume that you're confident in reading everyone within 24 hours yes, otherwise no. How can you be so confident on being able to figure everyone out within 24 hours to make it the basis of how you want the groups ordered instead of placing them the way BH and I want (except that BH has this one major flaw in his order which is group E). | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:50 Holyflare wrote: I am. You also only need to be most sure of the first group in the first 24h anyway. No I don't think so. A group you're really sure about should be in spot 3 or 4 to solidify that read as much as possible. You can put a crappy group that won't improve over time in spot 1. | ||
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On August 28 2014 10:57 mtamburini wrote: But its guarenteed no? So why not take a 1-0 early lead. there's no difference in wether we make that point on day 1, day 2, day 3 or even day 4 for that matter because if we lose 3 other groups we lose no matter if we score that point early or not. Who cares about scoring early if having good people alive later on gives us a better chance to win, thus resulting in C/B/E all for the last 3 spots and starting with D/A | ||
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On August 28 2014 11:21 Amiko wrote: Here's another way to look at this which I think supports having C earlier in the order We need 3 correct lynches to win. It doesn't matter whether those wins are D1, D2, D3 or are D3, D4, D5, or whatever. Thus, the most important thing is to order things such that at least 3 cells have the highest chance of success for lynching mafia. Let's assume for a second that Cell C is the easiest to read (and I can't say for certain that's true but I'll run with it for this example). If the cell didn't have people with high activity/content, I would typically want that cell to be first. Not because we need to start with a win, but because then we would be most likely to get verifiable information earlier. If we lynch correctly D1, then we know one mafia and two town on four days. If we lynch correctly D3, then we only have that information for two days. However, in this case people are saying that the easiest cell to read is also the cell with players that are likely to give high contributions and sure, that has weight too. But, I feel like if there is a cell that is the easiest to read, I absolutely wouldn't vote for it to be last. don't forget that the reads of those people get better as time goes on as well. I'd rather take 2 days with confirmed reads that are reasonably stable because they're already 3 cycles old than having 4 days worth of d1 reads no matter who that person is that made the reads. Slot #3/4 gives us a healthy compromise of everything. We get stable reads because they're not just d1 reads, we get some time with the people still alive and we get some time with confirmed reads afterwards. And I've said this a bunch already but I said I'm feeling good about reading that group as a whole given a bit of time. Like I said, both Marv and Holy are people who are capable to play like townies as mafias and thus need to be given some extra time to make sure of that in my mind, so I really don't want to make the decision d1/d2 despite calling it easy. | ||
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On August 28 2014 21:08 27ninjabunnies wrote: BH, you have a point, which is exactly why I would vote you over these other scrubs. If we are hard to read, you don't want us near the back, because you lose all the strong players within the game. (Though I'd like to think I'm one of the strong players) Lilwade, you entrance appalls me. You calling me mafia makes me wonder if you are a good mafia player at all. Curious, why am I clearly the mafia in the cell over Apathy? You must have wonderful reasons seeing as you have never played with me or Apathy. Funny thing, I actually thought the same way he thought and wanted to wait until seeing lil's entrance before commenting on it. You do give off a way to stiff vibe for me right now. Like you're constantly on edge for some reason. Your very first post hit me as... not funny (I'm not giving you a bad time for that) at the same time it sounds like you're actually trying to somewhat defend yourself in that post. It's just a really odd mixture between people trolling, you trying to dig in as well but in the end we get some super awkward post from you. And that feeling continues with your posts later on. You start off saying you like me towards a post from me that was clearly not to be taken seriously, again trying to keep the ball of "I can shitpost too!". I don't have a problem with that one post actually, not at all and no I'm not taking it seriously. But you do end up going afk, get back in the thread and you're super serious when nothing has changed. My joke of a proposal (really I think it's good, the reasoning behind putting E last I mentioned just happened to be a joke) still is largely the same and you somehow think that's odd now. So you actually went serious mode but I don't see why. You didn't do anything at all. Furthermore: On August 28 2014 12:53 27ninjabunnies wrote: Okay, I'm back, but going to bed soon since I have class at 8am. That being said (pob should have thought about that before joining this game.) So out of my cell (I still need to catch up), my main FOS is PA. Screw going last for one, and idk. Something about him doesn't sit right with me. Im not sure yet. My mind can change. I have now like, 7 pages to catch up on cause you mofos type too fast. People I know I'm not voting for mayor currently: Ritoky and PA. I'm still up for mayor. I'd like my group to go 3rd or 4th, but not last. For the reason that it takes a bit for me to be able to read people well, but I am absolutely terrible late game. Selfish, I know, but I think by then I can make a pretty good guess on who mafia is, which in the long run is better for town. If you have any questions for me, let me know. I'll read them either tonight and respond, or catch up completely after my classes tomorrow! more proof of you being unable to just be straight up with us. What's that "My mind can change" doing there? Of course people's minds can change, or so I'd hope. What's the point of mentioning that? This is in essence exactly what I'm talking about. I think you're really scared and you're unconsciously (?) already setting up a retreat when there should be no need to be so wishy washy. TL;dr: Whenever I read your posts I get the feeling that you lack the balls to actually just shitpost or say what you mean. That is I don't get the feeling that you actually feel the need to post something more serious when you do but do so because you think you should. | ||
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On August 28 2014 22:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Lol I can tell you why she lacks the balls But mebbe also she scum lol ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/YiK3P7I.gif) | ||
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On August 28 2014 23:41 marvellosity wrote: We started! Hello. vote Not really holyflare for D -> A -> C -> B -> E! you know you don't want me anywhere close to a spot that actually matters and gives the spotlight to me. | ||
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If you don't want to vote a smurf, do you intend to run yourself and bring us the glorious D -> A -> C -> B -> E? | ||
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About the question. I have groups B, C and E for the last three slot for reasons explained above so that leaves A and D for slot #1 and #2. Group D has 2 smurfs but it has the potential to not be a shitty group while group A is just going to be a shitfest no matter what and something I'd like to not have on the first day. I really don't want to have to have ritoky, BH and batsnacks discuss each other on the first day... | ||
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A -> D -> C -> B -> E or A -> D -> B -> C -> E as well the main point really is A/D being slot 1+2, C/B being slot 3+4, E being 5th. The order within those doesn't matter all that much to me. | ||
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I am hereby announcing that I'm back in the race for mayorhood! A vote for me is a vote for the glorious A -> D -> B -> C -> E! That's the same compromise we did earlier just the other way around Not really holyflare, so you can vote me as well! | ||
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On August 29 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey professor, if the mayor wins the vote and then changes the order he publicly stated, is he scum? Also, is posting prewritten posts scummy or townie? it's mostly just horribly stupid because it would most likely start a a giant discussion over nothing. That being said, if I'd do it now that I stated that, yes it would certainly be scummy because I realize that such a discussion would be hurting town for no reason. As for other people, depends on wether I think they're stupid or doing it on purpose. | ||
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On August 29 2014 01:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Whats the difference between stupid and on purpose and why is someone scummy or townie either way? Are you asking how to differentiate the two or are you really asking why I plan on treating someone who's doing things with ill intent differently than someone who's just know to be doing stupid things? | ||
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On August 29 2014 01:42 Oatsmaster wrote: Im asking whether you think someone that changes the publicly claimed order is scum. simple. not complex. Is anyone colorful at all in this game marv? and I said it depends on wether the person is aware of what he's doing. Let's say BM does something like that. I wouldn't hold it against him him but I'd do so for the majority of people, especially now that thanks to you I made it clear how I feel about it and people have to know that I don't tolerate it. It is actually pretty tricky beyond that but that's a useless discussion I don't want to go into. | ||
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On August 29 2014 01:59 batsnacks wrote: ##Vote: batsnacks WOW as soon as I typed my vote I felt a sudden swelling of confidence. Voting for BAT really does work! So it's just a placebo? Because I'm pretty sure your vote didn't count as you haven't voted in the voting thread. | ||
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On August 29 2014 02:04 WaveofShadow wrote: Can I abstain? Oh actually ##Vote: WaveofShadow you can also vote me for A -> D -> B -> C -> E! | ||
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You're two examples above with percentages also completly ignore the fact that reads changer over time. | ||
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On August 29 2014 02:32 Amiko wrote: My post above addresses what BH wrote - This is provably wrong. @Apathy: I don't live in the future so I can't really predict how reads will change. If you admit to being scum on D2, I'll wish your cell was D2. what I've been getting at this whole time is that reads that are easy or doable get easier over time. Reads that are really hard don't change all that much no matter how much time you give them. Thus placing the easy ones early would give us the lowest overall percentage because we're not benefitting from getting more stable reads on them that way. | ||
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Though I'd really like to be mayor and not just come in second for once... | ||
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The only way that doesn't happen is when I'm last and can't do that because we'd lose if I did that. | ||
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you honestly don't think that's going to happen? | ||
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On August 29 2014 04:36 Holyflare wrote: Well I'd hope that if you were town then you could just point out the mafia and life would be dandy which brings us to me having to defend myself in front of everyone like ritoky who seems to think I'm mafia for trolling him, which is going to make me angry and I'm not doing shit anymore at all. We both now exactly that already happened... I think twice? And I got lynched as townie I think... 3 times in the last 4 years or so? | ||
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On August 29 2014 02:10 WaveofShadow wrote: Not until I know who you are. (or have a damn good idea) If WoS and Not really holyflare could vote Marv that would be really nice. I'll spell out my nick for you if Marv ends up being mayor | ||
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BH on the other hand hasn't made me think he's town. So from a process of elimination point of view it's BH right now. | ||
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you failed me. You were the chosen one. You were supposed to be the bringer of Group E @ spot5 | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:33 ritoky wrote: well this ordering makes my life easy, just gotta find out which of these two is scum and not worry about the rest. meanwhile I was willing to take the hard path. Perfectly fine with being in the game for the entire time and not just opt out after 1 or 2 cycles and you gave me crap for that. Yet you seem to understand that putting yourself early IS in fact the easy way for both town and mafia from that very post you just did. Nothing related. Just a sidestab | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:38 batsnacks wrote: OH LOOK two big names have responded to this that must mean you don't need to, RIGHT? NOPE was that directed at me? Is that actually a question? | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:41 ritoky wrote: the difference is someone put me here, i didn't advocate it for myself. last game i did because i thought it was the easiest way for the town to get a point, but well holyflare poopood on that. I wasn't making a point about you. I was making a point about how you said I'm shady as fuck for wanting to be in last slot while people like Marv and Holy would be still alive for a long time is absolutely retarded. On August 29 2014 07:41 batsnacks wrote: Remember that room we were talking about? Why am I misguided if I got you to town read me? Why am I misguided period? Why am I not misguided mafia? No I forgot about the room. Do I have to know about it? I get the feeling that you believe in what you say despite it being wrong for the most part. That's why I said I get the feeling you're a misguided townie who honestly thinks ridiculous ideas are actually worth something. If it's about choice of words, I mostly used misguided to refrain from using other words to vent my anger over being placed in 2nd slot. | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote: BH/HF/your mum/Amiko/lilwade best guess so far. just so people can quiz me in a really annoying fashion later if/when i change my mind. I kind of agree A) BH B) Holy C) idk D) probably your mum but that's a gut read E) ninjabunnies | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:49 ritoky wrote: No, I said you have a shitty mindset because you said you didn't care about the order benefiting town; you simply wanted to have your own fun. I don't know if that is from a mafia mindset yet or just a shitty mindset, and at this point it is irrelevant to me; but if you were town you would place your cell in a position that you feel is most beneficial to town. Which could justifiably be last, you just actually have to say that rather than "I only care about my fun". see, that's why you're a misguided (towny). I fucking told you like 5 times that that part was a troll early on and that I have explained the reasoning behind it later on and you just keep on harping about it "hurr durr he wants to yoloswag this game" | ||
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On August 29 2014 07:59 Holyflare wrote: Gonna back up your read on me after just voting me as mayor? the mayor has no influence on the game other than the innitial setting of the order. I made my point very clear that I don't like your order at all I think and yet I voted for you to make sure we don't get crazy shenanigans because I don't think it matters all that much. About you: 1) You know me. You probably are aware of the fact that I never (I think?) got lynched at lylo in the past whatever-it-is-years and the only times I ever got lynched as townie was when being under pressure early by people I can't stand having to talk with resulting in me ragequitting right off the bat even if I wasn't about to be lynched. Point in case... the game with Rayn and I think some game with VE and BC I don't recall. So basicly I get really emotional if I have to deal with that kind of stuff as a townie early on and I get really frustrated, which I'm not proud of but that's the way it is and you know that. 2) You claim that you don't care about the order all that much, yet you felt it was necessary to run for mayor against Marv and other people that were running. You just claimed that you didn't even think about it all that much. Why did you bother in the first place? Those two together kind of spells trouble for me | ||
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On August 29 2014 08:30 Professor Apathy wrote: Well I have a gutread on WoS (who's in your group) so far being town and I don't like you right now... I'll take a nap over this to make sure I'm not just saying so because I'm mad for being in 2nd position. Also there's really no point in discussing HF's group right now when he isn't due to until cycle 4. EBWOP it's getting late. I'm off to bed | ||
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On August 29 2014 08:33 marvellosity wrote: While obviously it isn't the main topic, in general i don't really agree with the sentiment; the more you narrow the focus the easier it is to hide. generally i'm a fan of townies talking about as much relevant stuff as possible. yeah in general I'd agree but not on day1 of this game with this group. | ||
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On August 29 2014 08:35 marvellosity wrote: why? you have so much to talk about regarding this group? Mostly speaking for myself. Group A is one that could make it hard for me to focus, with all 3 of them having the ability to annoy me so much that I just want to lynch them no matter what. So I have to keep my focus on that and not be distracted. Also because I don't have time to do anything the first 24 hours (except for right now and the next 30 minutes). On August 29 2014 10:34 Amiko wrote: @Professor Apathy & marvellosity: What about batsnacks seems misguided? Practically the only thing of substance I see from him is that he voted Blazinghand, who you also voted for. How is it misguided if you agree with him? I mostly used the term misguided to abstain from using other words. They're both the kind of guys I wouldn't dare to listen to in the slightest. Yes they can be right by coincidence or wrong for the same reason but I really don't trust a thing any of those 2 says. It was 1 am around that time, and yes I usually don't feel like explaining more than I did at 1 am in the morning thus resulting in light chatter that gave you an idea about my thought without explaining them in detail in 2 short lines. If you can do it better in 2 lines be my guest and coach me. As for the other question (why group C easy). I know Marv for some time now. He can read me like a book, which also was a reason I wanted to be placed 5th, to tell him "go ahead and read me as much as you want, I don't have anything to hide" and equally I think I'm good at reading him. Same goes for Oats though I'm not as confident with him as with Marv but I'd bet VE's balls on Oats alignment if given 2 or 3 days to figure it out. Other than that I haven't read everything from this cycle yet. The 30 minutes I mentioned above I just spent on reading and typing this. | ||
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On August 30 2014 00:27 Professor Apathy wrote: Mostly speaking for myself. Group A is one that could make it hard for me to focus, with all 3 of them having the ability to annoy me so much that I just want to lynch them no matter what. So I have to keep my focus on that and not be distracted. Also because I don't have time to do anything the first 24 hours (except for right now and the next 30 minutes). I mostly used the term misguided to abstain from using other words. They're both the kind of guys I wouldn't dare to listen to in the slightest. Yes they can be right by coincidence or wrong for the same reason but I really don't trust a thing any of those 2 says. It was 1 am around that time, and yes I usually don't feel like explaining more than I did at 1 am in the morning thus resulting in light chatter that gave you an idea about my thought without explaining them in detail in 2 short lines. If you can do it better in 2 lines be my guest and coach me. As for the other question (why group C easy). I know Marv for some time now. He can read me like a book, which also was a reason I wanted to be placed 5th, to tell him "go ahead and read me as much as you want, I don't have anything to hide" and equally I think I'm good at reading him. Same goes for Oats though I'm not as confident with him as with Marv but I'd bet VE's balls on Oats alignment if given 2 or 3 days to figure it out. Other than that I haven't read everything from this cycle yet. The 30 minutes I mentioned above I just spent on reading and typing this. Also because I just realized I left the part about agreeing with BH out. At the time when I wrote my statement he just posted that some seconds ago. I read the result and agreed with the result. I didn't actually pay attention to what he wrote in that statement because I didn't care about his opinion in that matter (again 1am in the morning). So really, that didn't factor in at all. | ||
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On August 30 2014 04:22 27ninjabunnies wrote: I should just put it in every post. Lol sorry if I keep saying it. It's not a conscious thing. But no, I really am. Tamburini and MM know. would it be a bad thing to say "pics or lynch" in this situation? I'm back, it's 00:30 but I'll at least catch up a little | ||
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On August 30 2014 06:09 ritoky wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.gyazo.com/3484a046b00303869de8c3ce7bc0a705.png) oh, while i read here's this breakdown of current votes by cell. how's that even helping. Heck, I'd vote for someone who outright claimed mafia d1 (well, maybe not that extreme) if I like his order. Mayor has no powers at all. That's the kind of stuff that makes me reconsider... | ||
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On August 30 2014 07:46 Holyflare wrote: About what? the picture above so after reading real quick: all in all ritoky got a little more on the scummy side for posting that picture that DOES NOTHING AT ALL and fixing it like it's important or anything like that while not actually using it for anything. Did BH answer why he never mentioned that he'd move flats? Would have been real easy to just outright say "guys, I'm busy on Xth and X+1th day, please don't put my cell on that date" and batsnacks... well he's still batsnacks. I'm trying to read his posts, I really am but every second I have this urge to just scroll along. I think nothing really changed about it. | ||
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On August 30 2014 05:59 marvellosity wrote: if you spent half the time playing the game as bitching and taking pictures, we may have got somewhere. Alas. I actually disagree with this one and that's giving me some headache right now. BH is bitching from time to time. He gets in here to complain and do nothing but he complains, which looks horrible but he is complaining. He has to be aware of the fact that he's not helping himself with that and as Marv has pointed out, he could have spent that time differently and tried to make a difference. HOWEVER what that means is that BH is emotional about this. He could be just straight up afk this one as mafia if he really thinks there's no way to change things. Especially if he's not even trying to change things. Might as well just not waste time. Instead he is in here sometimes doing bullshit but doing something because he seems to be annoyed. That's pretty townish in my book despite being horrible. It is pretty wifom though... he might just as well be angry as mafia as well. To those guys who read older games of him as mafia when he did similar stuff, did he actually not post at all or did he still hang around posting something inbetween here and there? | ||
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On August 30 2014 08:20 marvellosity wrote: bh will post literally any bullshit as mafia that he'll do as both alignments The question is would he go the extra-mile and put effort into this in form of being an annoying guy who's complaining all the time if he really thinks it's over for him? | ||
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You just said you think Bat is scum (I think). How come? A gutread? Don't mind me, I'll go to bed. Shouldn't have made it that negative when you finally said something. Instead we can hold hands and you can feel encouraged to produce more posts anytime you have the time to do so! | ||
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On August 30 2014 11:09 batsnacks wrote: I'm going to do a ritoky, only mine is right the first time: Here is where I'm at: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/alBvQCz.png) Here is why I am at where I'm at: BH: He -actually- posted an entire photo album of him moving. 27bunny: This isn't her scum meta. Damdred: He's the man. Damdred is never mafia. Not really holyflare: scum didn't make that mayor campaign. your mom: First, smurf. Second, has voted BlazingHand two days in a row for reasons I am not sold on. MysteryMeat1: Said he wanted RNG cell order d1 but didn't vote me when I have been the biggest advocate of RNG cell order all game. WaveofShadow: He hates me because he knows I'm town, having fun, and not trying hard. Whereas he is mafia, not having much fun, and trying hard. MysteryMeat1: Said he wanted RNG cell order d1 but didn't vote me when I have been the biggest advocate of RNG cell order all game. marv: Gut says scum, logic says he's not. Oatsmaster: FACT: Only scum are scumreading me this game. red is a very powerful color for someone who seemed like he didn't play the game, thus most likely hasn't read a lot when all you've got on him is that he didn't vote you despite wantint RNG order. Heck, you even mention him twice for that. Same thing for WoS, it's a complete OMGUS without anything to it, yet he colored him red and not just yellow (or leave him blank for that matter) I could go on about this but this entire thing reeks of troll. That's a troll, right? And on me because someone asked. I am in fact, like Holyflare already mentioned twice, Toad. | ||
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On August 30 2014 12:15 batsnacks wrote: First and foremost! We must be psychic twins or something. Second and secondmost! Please say something about bunnies that will change my read, and please mention the other reads you don't agree with. I made that spreadsheet in about 45 seconds based on reading filters for 5 minutes. Third and thirdmost! Please: then why did you bother in the first place? Holy crap this has got to be a joke. See why I didn't want to put A first Marv/HF? I want to be a multishot vig with the power to shoot multiple people during day and I'd gladly kill off both bats and BH right about now... Although he isn't explicitly saying so, he's telling us that he's spend an entire 5 minutes on this game trying to figure out people. It's not "this spreadsheet is made off my earlier reads + 5 minutes rereading", which would still be ludicrous but he's actually telling us that it's just 5 minutes and nothing else between the lines, wether that was intended or not. That's a vote on batsnacks for me... ##vote batsnacks | ||
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On August 30 2014 00:12 slOosh wrote: Day 2 Vote count: Blazinghand (4): batsnacks, marvellosity, batsnacks (5): Oatsmaster, Blazinghand, WaveofShadow, Not really holyflare, Professor Apathy Ritoky (1): 27ninjabunnies to vote here. So as of now batsnacks is leading in votes | ||
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On August 31 2014 01:30 marvellosity wrote: why are you not voting with me Toad? On August 31 2014 00:27 Professor Apathy wrote: then why did you bother in the first place? Holy crap this has got to be a joke. See why I didn't want to put A first Marv/HF? I want to be a multishot vig with the power to shoot multiple people during day and I'd gladly kill off both bats and BH right about now... Although he isn't explicitly saying so, he's telling us that he's spend an entire 5 minutes on this game trying to figure out people. It's not "this spreadsheet is made off my earlier reads + 5 minutes rereading", which would still be ludicrous but he's actually telling us that it's just 5 minutes and nothing else between the lines, wether that was intended or not. That's a vote on batsnacks for me... ##vote batsnacks On August 31 2014 00:40 Professor Apathy wrote: yeah I know, just venting... I'm just really frustrated that I've got two people I'd lynch no matter what had this happened in any other game and I can't figure out what's going on with those two... | ||
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On August 31 2014 01:31 marvellosity wrote: btw I think P.A. is extremely, extremely, extremely likely to be town for the simple fact that he gave away his smurf simply, and with me in the game I think he really wouldn't want to do that so willingly so early. add to that that I wanted to be in Cell 5 and you in Cell 4 while still doing the same | ||
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On August 31 2014 01:32 marvellosity wrote: toad i don't care what your reasons are for voting batsnacks tbh well, does a "I'm not sure wether you're town yet" work? I've got nothing against you but at the same time only a slight town read. If I had you down as certain town I'd be sheeping you no questions asked right now but sadly that's not the case. Maybe I should reread your filter instead of batsnacks and BH's to try and solve this. | ||
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On August 31 2014 01:36 Amiko wrote: @marv: Does that mean I don't get an answer? I don't think your reason for townreading Apathy is good - him giving up his smurf easily means almost nothing when other players already said they figured out who he was (I think from that anime picture)? Anyway he is likely to be town IMO, but more because his d1 felt pretty good and bunnies' play feels pretty scummy to me. I kind of have this reputation to appear as the towniest townie that ever towned a town whenever I roll mafia. Except for two games in which I just derped: One was with holyflare in which I was the towniest townie that ever towned a town until he suddenly bussed our GF, GF got lynched and I literally stopped playing being pissed. Second and the important one being: one against Marv where he figured me out like 4 hours into d1 because of a slip I made. I apologized to my teammates and said there's no point in playing anymore as there's nothing I can do. We know each other for some time now and he can read me really really good. The fact that he didn't actually burp out my name any earlier and didn't realize it's me is what's giving me some issues with him but that could just be me being self-centered. It's actually pretty close to that one move when I masoned Sandroba on d1 10 seconds into the day that made me confirmed town for him as well because he didn't think I'd dare to do that as mafia. So actually I think marv's point makes sense for him. I'm not entirely sure if he'd feel the need to say it though. He usually likes giving me a hard time. On August 31 2014 01:40 Amiko wrote: @marv You seem to think BH is scummy for not leading town. As someone many people expected to lead town, why have you done so little to lead town today? Why are you dismissing me instead of trying to convince me if I am voting for someone you think is town? It's not about BH not leading town, it's about BH not doing anything. I don't think anyone expected BH to be leading town. The more I reread the more I want to vote BH again because in the end just like Marv said my vote on bats boils down to laziness and actually that's usually a major towntell in my book. Not the fact that he's lazy but the fact that he just outraight says so without thinking about it. Stupid group is stupid... | ||
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I made that spreadsheet in about 45 seconds based on reading filters for 5 minutes. after posting a spreadsheet. That's the most "don't mind me I only wanted to post something flashy with colors. It doesn't actually have anything to it" I've ever seen I might flip a coin on this one in 25 minutes | ||
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On August 31 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote: And then there's BH. lol would it be against the rules to film myself flipping a coin? I once did pictures of me flipping a total of 25 coins in a 3 way tie to decide who to shoot as a vig. I think I only posted that postgame though. And when I say picture of me flipping 25 coins I'm mean you saw the coin on my table, a pen and a drawn tally. | ||
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heads: BH tails: batsnacks It came up heads, meaning I should vote BH. I didn't like that so I put the coin away and said "naaah screw that" I'm on batsnacks. Flipping coins best method to figure out what you really want without having to look at the result. Let's just hope what I really want is what's right. | ||
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On August 31 2014 09:01 WaveofShadow wrote: So helpful marv, thanks. I'm going to assume then BH was telling the truth about the move but just made up a whole bunch of horseshit reads at the end and was scum. Probably shouldn't have been fooled by it tbh but neither of those two looked particularly towny for the entirety of the day. Next Cell: Bunnies: batsnacks called her town but for honestly horrible reasons imo. BH called her scum for reasons that I actually somewhat agree with, except for when he starts talking about protecting her scumbuddy. In my opinion Bunnies has done nothing all game but give reads with no conclusions, sheepy posts and has been generally forgettable in thread, precisely what scum wants. lilwade: No friggin' clue. Hasn't done a damn thing but make a show of weird machismo and a couple of question posts and a tiny bit of analysis on BH. Ritoky thinks he's jesus for some reason but I really don't see it. Pretty null. Toad: Looks pretty towny tbh. Especially the post where he made up an excuse for voting batsnacks even after flipping a coin. Scum could have extremely easily put a vote wherever and justified it with the flip. Not only does Toad NOT do that, but he provides legitimate rationale behind it as well (I've heard the coinflip thing before too). Lynch should between bunnies and wade today and I'm leaning bunnies. Yeah pretty much this. I'm like confirmed town between proposing to be Cell 5, telling marv and HF who I am and being pretty honest about my thoughtprocess without giving a fuck :3 Plus points and minus points I can see for the other two: bunnies:
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On August 31 2014 23:59 27ninjabunnies wrote: If you mean by lists posts, then yes. If you mean the quality, prob so. Do I care? Nah. MY goal here is to find the mafia. Whether or not you like my posts, doesn't matter to me. that's what I'm talking about with awkward posts. It should matter to you. #1 priority is to make sure everyone figures out you're town when town, #2 priority to find mafia. Let's be honest, 90% of people here can try #2 all they want and won't succeed on doing so in any way that suggests that they're achieving something that is NOT completly based on chance. But that's fine, the other 10-20% usually know what they're doing and I'm not even saying I belong in that group. But even then, trying to do #2 is should be enough for other people to correctly read you (either way ehehe) The reason this is awkard is because like I said you should care about how you look, both as town an mafia! Thus I read this post and think you're trying really hard to look tough. Even your between-the-lines typing style looks that way with that "MY" in all caps. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=21#402 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=32#631 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=55#1086 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=55#1099 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=56#1104 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=56#1108 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=56#1116 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=58#1154 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=66#1304 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=67#1323 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=67#1325 (<--- EVEN OATS HAS FIGURED IT OUT) http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=67#1326 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=67#1327 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=69#1364 Toad is short for Toadesstern. I'm this guy: gama as Mafia game as Town game as third party (I think I caught 3 bullets from SK + mafia in that game on n1 and n2... really people don't lynch me ever) | ||
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I really think her posts are horrible but I just can't see how you guys can be so confident that it's 5 vs 0 votes right now, especially since this pretty much a repetition of the first Cell, just not that extreme. If anything we should be pressuring wade to force him to do something. Bunnies is at least in here sometimes. We really need wade to do STUFF. | ||
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On August 31 2014 09:01 WaveofShadow wrote: So helpful marv, thanks. I'm going to assume then BH was telling the truth about the move but just made up a whole bunch of horseshit reads at the end and was scum. Probably shouldn't have been fooled by it tbh but neither of those two looked particularly towny for the entirety of the day. Next Cell: Bunnies: batsnacks called her town but for honestly horrible reasons imo. BH called her scum for reasons that I actually somewhat agree with, except for when he starts talking about protecting her scumbuddy. In my opinion Bunnies has done nothing all game but give reads with no conclusions, sheepy posts and has been generally forgettable in thread, precisely what scum wants. lilwade: No friggin' clue. Hasn't done a damn thing but make a show of weird machismo and a couple of question posts and a tiny bit of analysis on BH. Ritoky thinks he's jesus for some reason but I really don't see it. Pretty null. Toad: Looks pretty towny tbh. Especially the post where he made up an excuse for voting batsnacks even after flipping a coin. Scum could have extremely easily put a vote wherever and justified it with the flip. Not only does Toad NOT do that, but he provides legitimate rationale behind it as well (I've heard the coinflip thing before too). Lynch should between bunnies and wade today and I'm leaning bunnies. what did you mean with that phrase? For me the decision was between BH and batsnacks and not actually between all 3 of them. I'm really having troubles with that "wherever" you put in there... If I'm mafia I don't put my vote wherever when BH and batsnacks are in a duel. I'd want the townie to die, right? Unless of course both BH and batsnacks were town to begin with... Is that me being stupid and not understanding what he's saying? | ||
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On September 01 2014 02:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Fair, so keep your votes where they are. As a trend people tend to listen to you more often anyway (assuming you actually try) so if pressure is going to make wade do something then things are going as planned. you didn't have to put it so bluntly | ||
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let me fix that On September 01 2014 06:22 Professor Apathy wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nyZPZze.gif) because I'm obviously the most moe/cute guy around and he's trying to hit on me | ||
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On September 01 2014 06:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Like i already admitted to sheeping ritoky, and didn't vote bats who happened to be town. The reason i give apathy points is becasue if he was mafia, i think it would be easier for him to just vote for ojou-sama (bunnies) and make a case against her. I'll admit to not knowing how to read lilwade, as i don't recall ever playing with him and he hasnt posted stuff. not afraid to admit to sheeping someones reads on him. I think ojou-sama is scummy so i'm voting for her.. honestly speaking I don't have a problem with this post. It boils down to "Toad is doing something that isn't in line with his earlier read from before d1". He's saying I could have just picked the lazy route and continued on bunnies instead of voting wade today had my PM included mafia alignment. Thus he concludes that I actually think I should be voting wade right now and am not looking for a spot to park my vote. | ||
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On September 01 2014 23:11 your mom wrote: vote goes easily to lilwade. > scumreads bh > tells amiko that if bh was scum hed be more inclined to think apathy is scum > votes ninja super confidently like he scumread her from the start > effectively makes his post to amiko completely pointless cause he was so sure about bunnies anyway ##Vote lilwade > posts in weird 4chan/reddit style I got an idea who this guy is but forgot his name | ||
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1) This post: On August 29 2014 01:45 lilwade wrote: HolyFlare I was in the midst of making a campaign but I decided I knew little about day one cell tactics so I decided against it. I wanted to see also how cells are chosen or educated guessing about the order. It looks like you need to get on board with womens right as well. This one is a weak scumtell in my book. He says he was in the midst of making a campaign but decided against it once he reflected upon it. Now I do realize that it's possible for this to come from a townie but I'd say it's more likely to come from a mafia as townies tend to completly misinterpret their own situation/towniness. A townie doesn't give a fuck in the world about how he looks, especially early on. Not because he doesn't give a fuck but because he thinks it's all fine and he's the beacon of towniness anyways and everyone in the game probably realized that already. That's why we get so many convoluted, stupid plans that somehow are supposed to help but in reality just crash and burn sending town into a 24+hours discussion on wether the guy who thought of it is just stupid or trying to set a chaotic environment. Those things tend to come from townies in my experience BECAUSE those people actually think their plan might help because their self-assessment is completly off the mark, completly ignoring some super obvious flaw because + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/j9trgAl.png) That in return comes down to people being confident to some degree and again to the thought that they're just fine because beacon of townieness yalaya. Conclusion about above post and what I'm trying to tell you: 1) I don't think a townie would be this unselfconscious. I think a townie would be getting in here with confidence not being afraid of what he's posting. 2) Note that he said he was in the midst of making a campaign and realized that it would be stupid. READ: after already putting in some effort he realized he has no idea what he's writing about. That's the wrong order of events... He should be thinking of some grand idea and once he got an idea what he wants to achieve he THEN should continue to think about a campaign. He was in the midst of making a campaign for the sake of making a campaign and nothing else. As a comparison, you could say that I was having my fair share of fun for shitz and giggles in the first cycle as well but I really wanted to be in the last cycle and I honestly tried to achieve that. 2) These two posts in conjunction: On August 31 2014 07:49 lilwade wrote: @Amiko Im not sure now Blazing hand brought a case against 27ninja and if he was the mafia id be more inclined to think Apathy is scum. Also to note that Apathy voted on bat and not blazing. What about you? On September 01 2014 09:56 lilwade wrote: This day is super easy I had scum read on 27 bunnies like 30 seconds into day 1 And so did apathy... voting 27ninjabunnies. The first quote by itself is no problem whatsoever. Right after the lynch he rethinks the situation and thinks about what it might mean. Completly reasonable to stop for a second and think "wait, if BH WAS mafia and he thought bunnies is mafia maybe bunnies isn't mafia after all". No problem here. Problem arrives with the second post that completly ignores that, he proceeds to say easiest day ever without a care in the world and wants to lynch bunnies like nothing happened. I'm not putting those posts in the wrong order. They actually happened in that order. This guy needs lynching. | ||
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On September 02 2014 02:08 marvellosity wrote: why? given what you've said, your vote should be on lilwade. the reasoning wasn't "I need more time to defend myself". The reason was "I tend to ragequit when I'm annoyed and can get away with it. If I'm in last Cell I can't get away with it". group A: I still think BH was mafia (now that I know bats wasn't) group B: I don't think Holy is mafia. Not as certain on his towniness as on WoS but I would have pushed Holy had I thought he's mafia to make sure noone listens to him group C: I'm actually still not sure about for various reasons I don't feel like going into group D: damdred looks somewhat okay. Yeah I'd probably still go for your mum group E: I'm obviously voting lilwade right now @Marv/WoS On August 28 2014 07:03 Professor Apathy wrote: Fear not for I am town an will murder all of mafia. Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed! ##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers | ||
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On September 02 2014 02:18 27ninjabunnies wrote: Actually, please go into why you are not sure on group C. mostly stupid set-up speculation that I can't not think about despite thinking Marv and HF are about equally likely to be town. Marv gets the bonus of having wanted BH dead yesterday. | ||
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Professor Apathy
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On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative. agree. When HF posted the innitial statement I actually thought he meant mafia as in the game of mafia and not the alignment. | ||
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On September 02 2014 02:24 Holyflare wrote: i really don't think so... let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything. Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all? after being modkilled? embarrassment before being modkilled? no talking about other games, he's a new guy if he's in a newb-game, right? | ||
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Mafias tend to talk to each other during a game. As such the idea to abandon is a lot more personal towards the people on your team you're in a chat with. Abandoning a game you're playing in a team without knowing who your teammates are or being in direct contact with them on the other hand makes it easier to not feel bad about it. | ||
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On September 02 2014 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote: Where is fake holyflare? His totality of D2 posting has been absolutely horrible, mostly basing his apparent current dump vote on bunnies on weird meta shit. Did no one else pick up on this? I did when I just looked up the Cells when bunny asked me wether my reads changed and thought about the same... | ||
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On September 01 2014 09:56 lilwade wrote: This day is super easy I had scum read on 27 bunnies like 30 seconds into day 1 And so did apathy... voting 27ninjabunnies. | ||
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I know, I'm just saying you could easily make an argument for it both ways depending on how you look at it without being able to tell which one it is. | ||
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Professor Apathy
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/z0c2X6V.gif) + Show Spoiler [reads, open in new tab] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/B0vwsqT.png) Half of those were formulated (the text, not the numbers) today because I was a lazy bum. Also I didn't indicate at what comment happened at what time, so for example when I had "gutread" on WoS he was only at +1 and not at +7 Changed dead people to something in the -1000's to not have to delete them while still have them seperated. | ||
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