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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 28 2014 00:10 GMT
#281
Well surely you have opinions on some of them seeing as they have posted a lot here (ritoky/bat). Especially ritoky really as he was probably most prominent day 1 in cell 2.

I'd rather you talk about the content here than the theoretical ordering of people that haven't spoken yet
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
August 28 2014 00:10 GMT
#282
Oh, you mean the other cell games - only a little bit of each.
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 28 2014 00:11 GMT
#283
On August 28 2014 09:02 Amiko wrote:
@Apathy: Let's talk about which cell should go first. What player characteristics do you think are good to have in a first cell?

I'd put group D first, group A second, group B third, group C fourth, group E last.

There's 3 underlying principles here
1) Groups I don't mind having early, that would be group D and A. Nothing is lost if those are screwed up early
2) Groups I would like to have around later on, that's group B and C
3) Group E, I want to be last

So here's the reasoning:
I want D before A because A might end up in a shitstorm, so having D first gives us a more sensible start I think.
That leaves A for second.
Group B and C don't really have much all that much difference to them but I agree that C looks a bit more easy to judge and as such I want it on spot #4 to have marv around longer if he happens to be town. If he's not we ignore him just like we did in the invite game. Thus group C comes in spot #3
And Group E comes in spot #5 to have me in the last spot.

I highly doubt that reads are going to influence the order at all as I'm not willing to bet anything based on a 24hour read so I'd rather make it by things that are true and beneficial no matter of the alignments of any of the guys in there, like the fact that group A is going to be bloody horrible.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 28 2014 00:15 GMT
#284
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
August 28 2014 00:21 GMT
#285
Based on the 'content' here I guess here are my thoughts:

As to throwing their hat in the rink for mayor, my impression is that who is selected as mayor is relatively unimportant since the ordering of cells is something we should all talk about and decide. I guess I'd give a townlean to them for making themselves the center of attention by starting a campaign.
I do like that Apathy seems into engaging with the ordering of cells along with his campaign, but it's hard to tell whether he is being serious.

ritoky copied his post and style in his 'freedom' thing which could be scummy - if I was mafia, I would want to try to keep consistent to my prior games and working off a similar approach seems like a way to do it. I don't really find this compelling though, since I figure town would probably be consistent without worrying about it.

Besides that? I feel like I should be able to figure out who not really holyflare is from the post with Korea but I haven't yet.
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 28 2014 00:22 GMT
#286
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
August 28 2014 00:23 GMT
#287
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?


she already said she doesn't give a shit. she said she just wants to do what is funny for her.

reading her ideas and posts regarding cell order is pretty pointless at this point.

if i am not mayor i actually wouldn't mind holyflare being mayor. i prodded her and she responded with the proper level of pissed-offness that indicates to me she is probz town.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 28 2014 00:28 GMT
#288
On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.


This is what i am saying. If you are town then your group has the highest win rate for getting a point for town. I don't understand why you'd put yourself last and jeopardise that?
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 00:28 GMT
#289
On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.


Well, there will be a shitstorm in cell D for sure when mtam figures out who I am. I had beef with mtam. Once. And it was a glorious shitstorm.
I be disappointed amiko have not figured out who I am yet. You're a dastardly dead lover in my eyes.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 28 2014 00:32 GMT
#290
On August 28 2014 09:28 Not really holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.


Well, there will be a shitstorm in cell D for sure when mtam figures out who I am. I had beef with mtam. Once. And it was a glorious shitstorm.
I be disappointed amiko have not figured out who I am yet. You're a dastardly dead lover in my eyes.

Eden?
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
August 28 2014 00:33 GMT
#291
@Apathy:
Why is D a more sensible start than any other cell?

Also, if you feel C is easier to read you should agree with me that it should be in the first three.
If a cell is relatively easier to read, it should be in the first three days so we can be sure we get a vote on it.
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
August 28 2014 00:33 GMT
#292
On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.

Btw if you're robik you deserve my applause
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 28 2014 00:33 GMT
#293
On August 28 2014 09:28 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.


This is what i am saying. If you are town then your group has the highest win rate for getting a point for town. I don't understand why you'd put yourself last and jeopardise that?

I kind of have a tendency to ragequit whenever I'm town and in a position where I have to defend myself against bullshit

On August 28 2014 09:28 Not really holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2014 09:22 Professor Apathy wrote:
On August 28 2014 09:15 Holyflare wrote:
You realise this is a points based game right? You are essentially saying that 2 50/50's (your group and ez read marvs group) should be after shit storms thus giving us the lower chance to win?

the reason I want to be last is because I tend to be one of the most shitstorm creating guys on TL whenever I have to defend myself but I know to be town, so yeah...
I have no reason to believe that B or D will be a shitstorm. The only one I'm really worried about is A so far and I'd rather be done with it early in this case because that means we have people like you, Marv and me still around judging the situation.


Well, there will be a shitstorm in cell D for sure when mtam figures out who I am. I had beef with mtam. Once. And it was a glorious shitstorm.
I be disappointed amiko have not figured out who I am yet. You're a dastardly dead lover in my eyes.

Good thing you just told him!
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
August 28 2014 00:34 GMT
#294
Ah okay I know who it is now the korea should have tipped me off anyway haha
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
August 28 2014 00:40 GMT
#295
@Holyflare: Do you have any comments on the content of this game? Or the thoughts I posted above? Since you wanted to talk about it
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
August 28 2014 00:41 GMT
#296
@WaveofShadow/HolyFlare/MysteryMeat1 when you show up: Where do you want your cell to be?
Professor Apathy
Profile Joined August 2014
Spain151 Posts
August 28 2014 00:41 GMT
#297
On August 28 2014 09:33 Amiko wrote:
@Apathy:
Why is D a more sensible start than any other cell?

Also, if you feel C is easier to read you should agree with me that it should be in the first three.
If a cell is relatively easier to read, it should be in the first three days so we can be sure we get a vote on it.

I don't think I'm able to read Holyflare within 48 hours at all (that is, first lynch cycle). He's someone who can pull off things I'd give other people townpoints for as mafia as well, thus delaying my read on him because I have to keep that in mind.
Same goes for Marv despite my idea that I think I'll be able to read that group pretty comfortably a bit later on.

I mean I don't know who the two smurfs in D are but I hope it's more sensible than having group A as a starter
I'd be somewhat fine with swapping C and B I think. Not sure yet though. I just don't think we have to be afraid of a 3-0 stomp here and can play a bit more risky due to the set-up thus leaving stronger players for later.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
August 28 2014 00:41 GMT
#298
Not really no. Batsnacks did annoying things and then disappeared and ritoky had a redeeming moment where he questioned apathy about marv. Wave is probably mafia for this scummy afk after question asking.
mtamburini
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada506 Posts
August 28 2014 00:42 GMT
#299
On August 28 2014 07:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@Bat, your campaign doesn't help me.

I'm a woman.


Kill her first. Sacraficial lamb!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12972 Posts
August 28 2014 00:43 GMT
#300
Household announcement: I've decided to create a vote thread. You can find it here.
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