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wasn't aware voting for town was throwing my vote away?
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well that's dumb logic, what if all townies voted for themselves for that reason?
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then we'd be fine because scum aren't voting for themselves
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prplhz could you share some interesting reads that are not from our cell and not geript?
~rayn
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The guide to reading Geript!!! MUST READ GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO
+ Show Spoiler [Summary of prplhz's reads] +On April 02 2014 04:35 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 04:25 Balla24 wrote:
So @prplhz are you saying it's likely that we mislynch when lynching into my cell? In that case why would you want us first, we'd just be starting 0-1? no, the players in your group are the players i don't think we will benefit a lot from having around a lot. none of you are famous and reliable scum slayers and you seem kind of scummy [edit: in general but not yet in this game]. we just give it our best shot and then that's it. lynching into group rayn would be silly because rayn looks more and more and he's also a reliable scum hunter that we'll want to have around for more than 48 hours. same with groups 1,2,3,5 On April 02 2014 05:22 prplhz wrote:
i think getmoript is acting a lot more confident in himself than he should be. can anyone tell me if he usually is like this? On April 02 2014 05:26 prplhz wrote:
that i'm not very comfortable with you so far. it seems like an act that you're so sure of yourself. On April 02 2014 05:38 prplhz wrote:
it's hard to believe that anyone can be so full of bullshit as getmoript and still be so confident in themselves without it being an act On April 02 2014 05:55 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 05:52 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 05:44 getmoript wrote:On April 02 2014 05:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
##unvote
~rayn esplain ~g You claimed scum. I can aswell see if someone else wants to claim scum and not do what the wants to, you sure won't. ~rayn a "blow me town" level scum claim? On April 02 2014 05:57 prplhz wrote:
i agree it's horrendously dumb but that really doesn't mean that he's scum. On April 02 2014 06:14 prplhz wrote:
okay gumshoe confirmed for not reading the thread On April 02 2014 07:32 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 07:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I totes made geript his post readable for you.
ps. I love how active you are. yes but he didn't, he completely ignored me and i had to ask 3 times. strikes me as scummy that he doesn't want to make his own post readable. On April 03 2014 02:19 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 01:29 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:25 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:18 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:16 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:13 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:10 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 01:05 gumshoe wrote:On April 03 2014 01:03 mderg wrote:On April 03 2014 00:51 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
mderg,
Could you provide some reads? You entered the thread with a very generic statement. how do you read:
raynpelikonoshi
gumshoe
Steveling raynpelikonoshi - likely town pushing different cases, logical reasoning but a bit too much focus on gumshoe gumshoe - scummy 90% focused on rayn, only based on a "trap" Steveling - neutral It seems towny to me that he was unsure about gumshoe when filtering his posts(why would scum be unsure). but after saying that people should focus mostly on their own cells he basically made one filter post about both and then continued to watch them battling Why would I go all out to defend you if I'm scum? Are you an idiot? What do I gain? And of course I'm focused on Rayn, I know hes scum and hes leading town by the hand, wouldnt you be attacking him if you knew that too? That also hasnt stopped me from going after Holy and others, who do you think is scum in your cell You did go all out to defend me? I didn´t see it that way. Also you could get towny points, if I get lynched and flip town. I´m leaning towards Tehpoofter mostly because he tells about the perfect scum strategy and then continues to play exactly opposite to that. This seems a bit too good. Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine. We seem to have a different take on going all out, then Also gonna say this, Mderg is 100 percent town, I don't like the other people in his group, his play is in line with what I imagine of him as town and theres been too much gleeful drive on him. Even if I'm scum, he's town, consider his alignment a gift regardless of mine.
I said you were 100 percent town, then proceeded to attack Holy, thats pretty all out. if I am scum I am playing insane and sub optimal when all I have to do is watch you get rolled. Why? What makes Rayn town? The fact that hes good at the game? Hes always good XD. There was already quite some pressure on you, though(still much less than now). So hypothetically defending me could give you town points when I flip green. Or I would be an easy kill, if you get lynched on day1. Sigh, your really over thinking it, in Cultured I had a similar all out green read on a player called Mocsta, I just think your town bro, why ya gotta hate me for it T_T also I understand there are reasons to do what I did, but the negatives are 1) instant ire of town2) easy point for scum to jump on 3) doesnt help me at all as scum, because as you said, I am more likely to know your alignment if I'm scum, therefore there are no realy lynch benefits. The only real reason I'd defend you is because I dont want you to get lynched / : i thought mostly scum were on your back? and now that your main scum read suddenly lets you go as his main scum read, you go "nice, i'm afk now LOL" i swear on my life that gum is scum can we please get over this dumb shit, gum has been theatrical all game and i don't know why you would put this beyond him On April 03 2014 04:09 prplhz wrote:
this sucks wtf
steve probably scum On April 03 2014 05:43 prplhz wrote:
i'm toying with the idea that steve is town
The issues I have with Rayn can be pretty easily summed up with his responses here:
1. Rayn and I know each other pretty well as players. He always ends up with a good read on me for solid reasons both in forum and in video. He knows how to read me as town; I don't know how much he personally buys into Prome's 100% way to read me, but that logic has been what I've seen him using to read me. So when Rayn posts the following, it really should attract attention for everyone:
On April 03 2014 06:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 06:01 getmoript wrote:On April 03 2014 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 03 2014 05:56 getmoript wrote:On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep
~rayn Explain your townread on prplhz. He hasn't done anything scummy, has more good posts than usually and has reasonable reads. ~rayn So outside of me which of those reads have been reasonable in your opinion? After you snap respond to this next go back and find the good posts you liked and explain why you liked them. Reads on our cell are good. I like the evolution and while prplhz doesn't really explain it (he never does and yes, it's annoying) i can kinda see where he is coming from. I like his read on you.~rayn
On December 04 2013 20:29 Promethelax wrote:
geript starts with all the tough guy posing, its interesting to note but not all that important right now. Its something to remember though as its clearly a persona gerpit is putting on. Reasons for both scum and town to do this.
geript hard defends Rayn d0 and really puts his foot down about it. He takes a hard stance which I rather like. Its odd, everything I'm seeing seems to objectively point to scum but I don't find it convincing. There is something in how geript is thinking that seems silly but not scummy maybe? I can't explain it right. He is ringing all the scum bells but it feels like he is ringing them for the wrong reasons. He has all this ill founded bravado that I [i]think would be hard for him to do as scum. He is very in your face and it seems townie.
If he's read prplhz's stances on me, he specifically should have warning lights going off in his head that I'm probably town. Specifically here:
On April 02 2014 05:22 prplhz wrote:
i think getmoript is acting a lot more confident in himself than he should be. can anyone tell me if he usually is like this?
On April 02 2014 05:26 prplhz wrote:
that i'm not very comfortable with you so far. it seems like an act that you're so sure of yourself.
On April 02 2014 05:38 prplhz wrote:
it's hard to believe that anyone can be so full of bullshit as getmoript and still be so confident in themselves without it being an act
Rayn is clearly not bothering to actually evaluate his reads in this game. This IS NOT his town play. In this setup, he as town would want to avoid mislynches at all costs and Rayn liking prplhz's read on me here would 100% give him cause to concern.
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On April 03 2014 06:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 06:01 getmoript wrote:On April 03 2014 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 03 2014 05:56 getmoript wrote:On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep
~rayn Explain your townread on prplhz. He hasn't done anything scummy, has more good posts than usually and has reasonable reads. ~rayn So outside of me which of those reads have been reasonable in your opinion? After you snap respond to this next go back and find the good posts you liked and explain why you liked them. Reads on our cell are good. I like the evolution and while prplhz doesn't really explain it (he never does and yes, it's annoying) i can kinda see where he is coming from. I like his read on you. ~rayn
Rayn stating that he likes prplhz's evolution is complete scum bullshit. Other than the balla read (which was later corrected to be a non-read), there really isn't a true evolution of reads. Rayn knows that the scum often lurk and allow others to "fill in their thoughts" so him giving prplhz a 100% town pass for prplhz's posts is complete bull. As town, Rayn could and would follow up with what prplhz meant at those points. Furthermore, Rayn states that he likes prplhz's read within (Rayn's) pod. Which ones? Why? First he's on Scumshoe; next he's on Scumeling; next he's on Stowneling maybe. The bottom line here is that prplhz really hasn't had scumreads this game; he's been following the thread sentiment a decent amount and Rayn is 100% giving this guy a complete pass. Rayn doing this as town is pretty unthinkable to me. Rayn stating that he actually likes prplhz's mostly non-existent and definitely unexplained reads is even more mindnumbing.
On April 03 2014 05:59 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 05:56 getmoript wrote:On April 03 2014 05:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
yep
~rayn Explain your townread on prplhz. He hasn't done anything scummy, has more good posts than usually and has reasonable reads. ~rayn
Where are these non-existent reads? Seriously read prplhz's filter and tell me he has a bunch of reasonable reads that he's making. They're really not there. Raynpelikonoshi is specifically lying about this!!!!!!
Rayn has clearly not read prplhz's filter prior to me asking him about him. He's clearly spewing stuff of the top of his head here and all of it is 100% fabricated.
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geript are you just ignoring the guy that is accusing gumshoe of cheating and rage quitting the thread because of rayn changing his mind because of this "cheating"???
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No, I'm ignoring Steveling because honestly I don't know what to make of him and I'm hook line and sinker on Rayn being scum here.
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So your scumread on me is:
1) I should have a town read on you
2) I have not read prplhz's filter
so here we go:
1) i am not even going to say anything about this because that's ridiculous
2) i have paid attention to prplhz's posts. The point where i talk about his "evolution of reads" i talk about our cell, the way he called gumshoe mafia and when Steveling started flip-flopping he took a step back and re-evaluated his read on them two. made posts about thinking Steveling is scum and then going back to Steveling being scum. I have never ever talked about any Balla read, so what you say about that can't possibly be true. I am not giving prplhz 100% town pass, i have never said so. I have said he looks way townier than you do. I read prplhz townish because usually he doesn't even have this much in his filter!!! That's why i literally said "in this game he has done MORE TOWIE THINGS THAN USUALLY. Usually when people do more townie things than usually as town they are not mafia.
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I got a little time before I have to work.
On April 03 2014 05:59 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 05:20 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:First off, gumshoe because his filter came up first: Steve dived him here which I'd like to somewhat expound on. The conversation he brings up: On April 02 2014 09:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? I have answered every question directed at me so far, but I feel no need to divulge information that might jeopardize my efforts to trip up scum unless I don't have much choice I. The matter. Especially when it comes to the person whose my default top scum read. As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? While going for unconfirmed scum first is fishy (and scummy), what stood out to me was gum's resistance to providing information further within the quote. This is looking like town play, just very bad town play - if I was a scum in gumshoe's position I wouldn't want to encourage rayn to make red reads on me. I'd actually be paying a lot more attention to what rayn is saying and trying to get either him or Steve into the frying pan. As town, gum can be full of hubris. As scum, it's attracting way too much attention, and someone in the QT would have shut him up. I do agree with steve that the other part of that quote is pretty scummy thinking though. On April 02 2014 22:15 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 22:10 raynpelikonoshi wrote:![[image loading]](http://i61.tinypic.com/qpnztt.png) ~rayn You very talented Rayn, too bad your scum. Let me give my side once and for all Gum baits Rayn cause HE DOESNT KNOW HIS ALIGNMENT BECAUSE HES TOWN FIGURING OUT THE GAME. Findings are inconclusive, Gum goes to talk to other people, Rayn attacks Gum for lying, Gum tells Rayn he has no reason to be completely transparent with a likely scum read. Rayn twists this into Gum hates town and calls him super duper mega confirmed scum. Gum is suspicious of how certain he is before hearing steve talk, gum realizes Rayn is accusing him the same way as witchcraft. Gum goes after him / : Whats scummy about any of this? Gum's rage here returns to the same vein as where he ignored rayn previously: he discredits rayn's case because he's not sure of it, and goes after the meta instead. While this one post in a vacuum rings scum - he's dismissing evidence that goes against him instead of countering it, waving it aside as rayn twisting words, and tries to justify his obscuring of information that could help town at this point - it's very consistent with his mentality earlier. I can see this as another evidence of bad town play, with gumshoe missing the point of hunting scum but instead getting extremely defensive about rayn's comments, and "figuring out the game" on his own. On April 02 2014 22:28 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 18:15 Steveling wrote:I'm now filtering gumshoe, will be posting one liners as I'm reading through it. Hahahaha, gum <3333, that short description of me you made, haha, that's the gum I remember. Gum immediately gets some town points because he asks for his cellmate for thoughts on me, not random people. I explained my reasoning in my previous post. Ummm, gum defending getript, is weird. I will have to filter getript as well to form a better opinion. Btw I think it's weird not as a scam-defends-scam thing but because getript wasn't making much sense at first glance and I recall gum from our game together as a good player, albeit with some suicidal weird plans but good overall. -town points for that but I will have to check getript as well later. I don't like how he blindly agrees with palmar on mayor'ing him. Pls vote people by their activity and quality of posts not by their reputation. Hmm, gum gets some scam points for the following bit On April 02 2014 09:34 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 09:14 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 09:03 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 02 2014 08:56 gumshoe wrote:On April 02 2014 08:54 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Why didn't you say so in the first place when i gave my answer and asked the same question?
~rayn Because there's a 50 percent chance your scum therefore I owe you no favours, and I didn't catch anything worth bringing up at that moment. So instead of answering me you decided to lie because "you don't owe me anything"? Do you realize i am supposed to have a read on you in this game and it's not looking quite townie atm. ~rayn "Mafia is about finding scum, period" your words not mine, why should I care about your read on me until I know what you are? You opinion is literally a coin flip away from worthless to me. If you can't read me, that's not my fault, I am playing the game as I see fit, your bieng shit at reads doesn't factor in to my play. So your honest opinion is that you don't need to give away your alignment to anyone but everyone needs to do so to you? Also another question. We have 2 imaginary groups X and Y. In group X there is confimed mafia. In group Y there are 3 people who are all really hard to read. Which of the following scenarios in your opinion results more likely in 2 scumlynches: 1) Lynch the confirmed scum in group X, and have 96 hours to figure out the mafia in group Y, or 2) Figure out the mafia in group Y in 48 hours, then lynch the confirmed scum in group X ? As for your question, 2' because confirmed scum isn't going anywhere. They can be literally killed at any time and I rather lynch question marks while everyone is still invested in the game. I have taken on this mind set strictly because the setup holds no surprises. If I'm scum, why would I champion something like that if my buddy gets lynched by day3 anyways? What do I gain aside from towns ire? Open the quote to read rayns question. Srsly gum, wtf, you shouldn't be making that kind of mistake. You basically proposed to scumhunt and coin flip the first day lynch so IF we get lucky we end up with 2 semi-confirmed scum instead of taking sowing what's ripe in day1. Alright gum about that big meta post you did on rayn. Honestly I think it's bad, you claim he accuses you of scumplay and you quote 3 previous games to prove that somehow the meta works for you? You say that "ey guys, I lied there to scumbait, rayn was falsely accusing me, so I'm doing the same thing here", can't you understand how wrong this is? Rayn has every reason in the world to accuse you in both games. Anyway, I remember that was your playstyle as well in our game together so I won't award you with scumpoints for this but if you keep at it, you are getting on my scumlist, period. You end up this post with Ill end with the most damning bit of all, Rayn whole heartedly believes I am scum for false lackluster reasons, despite the fact that Steveling has yet to open his mouth. Thats because hes just accusing whoevers convinient for him, not trying to seriously consider whose scum. Again flawed logic, wouldn't I be the easy target here and not you, a player with 4 pages of filter already? I like your comment on mderg On April 02 2014 13:13 gumshoe wrote:Fun fact, Steve coag and Ceph have not yet started playing really, leaving them out, six people (myself included )  have openly attacked mderg. Geript I'm fairly confident that mderg is the scum in Cell 2. I'm probably going to talk with g more and see what we can dig up from this one, because I'm actually kind of afraid to townread HF after the stunt he pulled in Cultured (which was fucking awesome, btw). Tehpoofter Makes me think Mderg scummy Sentinal town Holy Mderg is mafia in my group btw, that's an easy one. Rayn I noticed this too. I asked Koshi what does he think of this mderg guy and he said it seemed strage how he came in straight up defending the one dude in our group. Too crazy that he instant defended a scumbuddy out of nowhere so if mderg guy ends up being scum gumshoe can die in a fire.
It all fits! Gumshoe Whats your relation to Steveling, whats your general impression of his play and why did you feel the need to answer a question intended for someone else. Do you think Rayn is scum? Balla
We can talk about plenty. How mderg's posts so far have been useless and scummy maybe?
Mderg is a lurky/noobish player, bad play coming out of him deserves due consideration. 50 percent of this games active players (I am not counting lurkers) find this guy scummy in a game where a third of us are scum. Yeah... lynching this guy is not getting us a red flip. I believe there are some scum in this list you made gum. My personal opinion on mderg is that the only town read he has going for himself is when he defended me. He must have seen me posting in the football thread and he just said what he reasoned out. He's inactive or posting fluff, so I'm leaning towards scum for him but the bus'ing against him and the fact he's new made me think otherwise. All in all I'm pretty confused with gum, I'm leaning neutral on him atm, can't make my mind. I love this post BECAUSE it's riddled with uncertainty, this game is filled with people who have perfect reads (cause scum) it's a breath of fresh air to see someone who legit not sure of whose scum in his cell. If steve was scum, he could easily attack me or Rayn, and the way were going at it the non pick might just support his choice whole heartedly. Unfortunately for scum, steve is not just truing to survive his cell, dude be figuring shit out ( : good genuine effort in this post and a stance I feel is most likely town. Steve is cool. This post is actually one of the more logical ones gum's made up to this point, although I feel like you could make the counter-argument that Steve is simply playing neutral and doing both the positives and the negatives of gum's play. A huge shitstorm ensues over rayn's case. Point 2 is very scummy looking especially as gum claims he only wants to appear readable to town and not scum. The lack of nightkills makes this point look very hard to justify... he really can't be silenced by a scummy mayor, since majority would be against sending group 1 to the chopping block first, and we'd have a scum who painted a big red target on his face. Rest of filter seems to simply reinforce notions he had before. Gum's got one thing going for him and that's consistency to a fault: he's picked some key points (don't be 100% transparent, rayn is scum, steve is town, geript is a pretty towny player), and stuck to them, to the point where I'm wondering if he's simply using his earlier play to justify his later notions. I guess that's a bad-town thing to do, especially since he really can't hide an ally by putting himself into the spotlight.
Overall I'm thinking town on gum simply because a scum, even a bad one, would have no incentive to become the most targetable figure in Cell 1, and that it's a lot less convoluted to try to justify his beliefs as careless town compared to scum. I'll take a look at rayn once I return from work tonight. @LSB I played with you two years ago and you made me your bitch. That wasn't very fun. So whose scum in our cell? You say the most logical thing Ive said was how Steveling is town. Do you agree with that? If Rayns scum, why doesnt he just ride me to finish line?
Not too sure about rayn - I'll have to reread him after I get off.
Steveling is one sketchy motherfucker now:
On April 03 2014 01:08 Steveling wrote:
I read your mayor post raynkoshi.
Honestly you are probably my most town read so I don't have a problem.
As for me I don't have a clue about mayor'ing and stuff.
Do we want scum or town mayor in this setup?
If his greenest read is rayn, that would indicate that you, gum, are his scumread for Cell 1. Except he never really says anything in that regard. He leans "neutral" in his filter dive of you, and then only really gets pissed at your play and you "betting your life" on him being the scum. That looks more like frustration than accusation.
To me it looks like Steve doesn't have a concrete scumread, only a strong townread and a neutral read that has to be scum due to process of elimination.
@Steve - If you still have a green read on rayn, tell me why gumshoe is scum and not town, based on solely his own play through this game.
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Like geript can you try to form one read that's not pure shit?
~rayn
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On April 03 2014 07:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Like geript can you try to form one read that's not pure shit?
~rayn
I mean, you can't really think someone is going to buy that "rayn should call me town therefore he is scum" shit?
You can't possibly think someone is going to think i am mafia because of it, especially when that's your 1 of 2 reasons and the other reason is "this other dude in my cell should not look townier than me" which is basically the same thing.
~rayn
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On April 03 2014 06:38 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2014 15:01 getmoript wrote:On April 02 2014 04:08 prplhz wrote:
i think it would be a great idea if people mainly focused on their own cell. that doesn't mean that you shouldn't tell the thread if you have reads on other people but if you are unfocused it makes very good sense to look at your own cell simply because you have a 50/50 chance there. On April 02 2014 04:09 Balla24 wrote:
That's silly. You still have to vote to lynch within the other cells... On April 02 2014 04:11 prplhz wrote:
hmm yea. that's right. I've already brought up the odd point on prplhz's opener, but in rereading I really don't like this interaction. Unlike Banks (poofter) I don't think that focusing primarily on your cell is a scummy strategy. Like I like the point that prplhz brings up in the first post, but it feels really weird for Balla to correct him and then prplhz to instantly drop it. Like I personally 100% support people trying to get a read on the people in their cell so that they can actually make associations and sheep another semi-confirmed townie's opinion for whatever the current lynch is if they feel lost. It's really odd to me that prplhz just drops it like this I really don't understand what you are getting at here, you seem to think i'm scum and that this post is the one that you didn't like, but what you write here focuses mainly on prplhz and an interaction I had with him instead of on what I said. Can you elaborate on why my "correction" there is scummy in your eyes?
No when I was rereading last night I've been coming around to some extent on you being town. The "weird thing" to me isn't you correcting prplhz, it's the fact that he has this idea that he seems to like and instantly drops it when it gets "shit on." That looks really really odd to me; it goes along with how townies tend to present ideas and have a 'stick-to-it-tiviness' about believing in them. There's no evolution of how to make his idea better; there's no rebuff of, "This is specifically for if people are lost and not a focus only on your pod" type of post. It's really weird to see an idea, especially one that has merit like that, just instantly dropped.
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On April 03 2014 07:09 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 06:38 Balla24 wrote:On April 02 2014 15:01 getmoript wrote:On April 02 2014 04:08 prplhz wrote:
i think it would be a great idea if people mainly focused on their own cell. that doesn't mean that you shouldn't tell the thread if you have reads on other people but if you are unfocused it makes very good sense to look at your own cell simply because you have a 50/50 chance there. On April 02 2014 04:09 Balla24 wrote:
That's silly. You still have to vote to lynch within the other cells... On April 02 2014 04:11 prplhz wrote:
hmm yea. that's right. I've already brought up the odd point on prplhz's opener, but in rereading I really don't like this interaction. Unlike Banks (poofter) I don't think that focusing primarily on your cell is a scummy strategy. Like I like the point that prplhz brings up in the first post, but it feels really weird for Balla to correct him and then prplhz to instantly drop it. Like I personally 100% support people trying to get a read on the people in their cell so that they can actually make associations and sheep another semi-confirmed townie's opinion for whatever the current lynch is if they feel lost. It's really odd to me that prplhz just drops it like this I really don't understand what you are getting at here, you seem to think i'm scum and that this post is the one that you didn't like, but what you write here focuses mainly on prplhz and an interaction I had with him instead of on what I said. Can you elaborate on why my "correction" there is scummy in your eyes? No when I was rereading last night I've been coming around to some extent on you being town. The "weird thing" to me isn't you correcting prplhz, it's the fact that he has this idea that he seems to like and instantly drops it when it gets "shit on." That looks really really odd to me; it goes along with how townies tend to present ideas and have a 'stick-to-it-tiviness' about believing in them. There's no evolution of how to make his idea better; there's no rebuff of, "This is specifically for if people are lost and not a focus only on your pod" type of post. It's really weird to see an idea, especially one that has merit like that, just instantly dropped.
Sorry, still a little confused if you could help me out here. What exactly does that have to do with me in that case, since the reason you brought it up was because you thought I was scum?
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And speaking of reads geript. You have one scumread (me) and one townread (gumshoe).
Both of the reads are based on bad reasoning. Apparently you have a scumread on prplhz (noone knows why).
Do you really think it's fair for you to call prplhz out for not having any reads? Because to be honest you don't have many reads and the few you have are based on bad reasoning.
~rayn
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On April 03 2014 07:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 07:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Like geript can you try to form one read that's not pure shit?
~rayn I mean, you can't really think someone is going to buy that "rayn should call me town therefore he is scum" shit? You can't possibly think someone is going to think i am mafia because of it, especially when that's your 1 of 2 reasons and the other reason is "this other dude in my cell should not look townier than me" which is basically the same thing. ~rayn
TOWN i WANT TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAR HERE
Point 1 is not: Rayn isn't calling me town, therefore he is scum. Rayn specifically stated that he and I quote, "like his (prplhz's) read on you (geript)." The point is specifically that Rayn in anyway at any point reading prplhz should have and would have (if rayn were town which he is not) points that prplhz has brought up that are heavily indicative of my town meta.
Point 2 is not: prplhz should not look townier than me. Point 2 is based on the fact that Rayn is clearly not looking at specific players for specific reasons which he usually does. He's specifically reading the game differently than he does as town and therefore Rayn is scum.
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On April 03 2014 07:12 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
And speaking of reads geript. You have one scumread (me) and one townread (gumshoe).
Both of the reads are based on bad reasoning. Apparently you have a scumread on prplhz (noone knows why).
Do you really think it's fair for you to call prplhz out for not having any reads? Because to be honest you don't have many reads and the few you have are based on bad reasoning.
~rayn
TOWN i WANT TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAR HERE
Yes, I personally think prplhz is scum. There's a lot of odd stuff in his filter. I can still be wrong here. My case on rayn is not in any way to try and incriminate or throw shit at prplhz. My case on Ryan is on Rayn. I don't think prplhz here is town but honestly I can't be sure because Ceph is an MIA jerk as far as I'm concerned.
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On April 03 2014 07:18 getmoript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 07:08 raynpelikonoshi wrote:On April 03 2014 07:05 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Like geript can you try to form one read that's not pure shit?
~rayn I mean, you can't really think someone is going to buy that "rayn should call me town therefore he is scum" shit? You can't possibly think someone is going to think i am mafia because of it, especially when that's your 1 of 2 reasons and the other reason is "this other dude in my cell should not look townier than me" which is basically the same thing. ~rayn TOWN i WANT TO BE EXCEPTIONALLY CLEAR HEREPoint 1 is not: Rayn isn't calling me town, therefore he is scum. Rayn specifically stated that he and I quote, "like his (prplhz's) read on you (geript)." The point is specifically that Rayn in anyway at any point reading prplhz should have and would have (if rayn were town which he is not) points that prplhz has brought up that are heavily indicative of my town meta. Point 2 is not: prplhz should not look townier than me. Point 2 is based on the fact that Rayn is clearly not looking at specific players for specific reasons which he usually does. He's specifically reading the game differently than he does as town and therefore Rayn is scum.
#1:Yes i like the posts where he says you are talking shit, like you are.
You can't just quote some random post and say "look here prplhz says something that's not my meta". I am talking about all the posts in total, and prplhz has pointed out multiple times your bad logic and i have agreed with him.
#2 Incorrect as i explained earlier. I made another post which you apparently missed.
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For the record prplhz does not even read you scum for the posts you quoted in your case so it's you who is not reading properly. He literally fucking asks "is this something geript usually does".
So stop bullshitting geript and go hang!
~rayn
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On April 03 2014 07:11 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2014 07:09 getmoript wrote:On April 03 2014 06:38 Balla24 wrote:On April 02 2014 15:01 getmoript wrote:On April 02 2014 04:08 prplhz wrote:
i think it would be a great idea if people mainly focused on their own cell. that doesn't mean that you shouldn't tell the thread if you have reads on other people but if you are unfocused it makes very good sense to look at your own cell simply because you have a 50/50 chance there. On April 02 2014 04:09 Balla24 wrote:
That's silly. You still have to vote to lynch within the other cells... On April 02 2014 04:11 prplhz wrote:
hmm yea. that's right. I've already brought up the odd point on prplhz's opener, but in rereading I really don't like this interaction. Unlike Banks (poofter) I don't think that focusing primarily on your cell is a scummy strategy. Like I like the point that prplhz brings up in the first post, but it feels really weird for Balla to correct him and then prplhz to instantly drop it. Like I personally 100% support people trying to get a read on the people in their cell so that they can actually make associations and sheep another semi-confirmed townie's opinion for whatever the current lynch is if they feel lost. It's really odd to me that prplhz just drops it like this I really don't understand what you are getting at here, you seem to think i'm scum and that this post is the one that you didn't like, but what you write here focuses mainly on prplhz and an interaction I had with him instead of on what I said. Can you elaborate on why my "correction" there is scummy in your eyes? No when I was rereading last night I've been coming around to some extent on you being town. The "weird thing" to me isn't you correcting prplhz, it's the fact that he has this idea that he seems to like and instantly drops it when it gets "shit on." That looks really really odd to me; it goes along with how townies tend to present ideas and have a 'stick-to-it-tiviness' about believing in them. There's no evolution of how to make his idea better; there's no rebuff of, "This is specifically for if people are lost and not a focus only on your pod" type of post. It's really weird to see an idea, especially one that has merit like that, just instantly dropped. Sorry, still a little confused if you could help me out here. What exactly does that have to do with me in that case, since the reason you brought it up was because you thought I was scum?
No the reason I brought it up is because I think prplhz is scum. I thought you were scum earlier because of post at the bottom of the page ~14 that I saw while working that I didn't really like. When rereading, it didn't seem as bad and nothing you had written to page 20 or so had stood out to me and nothing you've written since then (when I picked up where I left off) really bothered me.
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Geript can you now finally tell us why you think prplhz is mafia?
~rayn
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