Doctor Who Mafia 2 - Page 7

On April 01 2014 04:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
hey guys, fyi i wont be here till 30 min before deadline

i will say that i have read the thread and i'm not impressed with the push to lynch rayn but i'm not really willing lynch kita for it. usually weird trap plays that don't seem to make too much sense come from town, and that is enough for me to ignore kita's bad case against rayn.

as stated before i am soooo down to lynch a lurker. i notived some people mentioning gumshoe and i'm perfectly fine with that

On March 30 2014 14:03 kushm4sta wrote:
So slam is either
1. survivor
2. scum lying about being survivor

im inclined to believe 1, knowing how alaka approaches playing scum.

unvote

On March 31 2014 02:04 kushm4sta wrote:
ryan
furthermore you continue to push a lynch on a claimed survivor because "he's not town."
I cannot understand this stance at all. It is not good play to lynch a survivor d1 and you know that.
And you are pushing this survivor lynch in lieu of scumhunting. As town you are primarily concerned with figuring out who scum are, which im not seeing this game.

On April 05 2014 04:09 JarJarDrinks wrote:
@People saying kush is possible scum:

Explain how he knew gumshoe was lying? The only way it's possibly for Kush to be scum is if he was converted.

On April 05 2014 04:29 thrawn2112 wrote:


i only held that opinion at the exact time I made that post. iirc i unvoted kita pretty quickly

On March 31 2014 01:03 Amiko wrote:
If someone dies in the game, does the flip reveal their current role or any role history / alignment change the player had? If you won't answer that's ok.

Massclaim


My answer is no - I don't see many (any?) advantages for this in a closed setup.
If it was a serious suggestion then I'm wiling to talk about it, though, and it looks like we are both on.


Other Questions
@anyone what is LHF?
@kitaman27 I don’t see your original vote on thrawn2112 as scummy, but can you explain why you initially withheld your reasons for voting for thrawn (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21085439)?

On March 31 2014 01:31 Amiko wrote:
[u]LHF
“LHF” It was from a slam post here-

Re: voting - I’m considering voting slam - I was rereading him (and saw LHF). I don’t want to vote Slam right now, though: there’s over a day left, slam is already getting pressured, and I’d rather lynch scum than 3rd party survivor.

Massclaim

I agree with the first sentence. I don’t know all the Dr. Who lore but even light wiki + the game description suggests cybermen/scum can probably convert targets to become cybermen/scum.
I don’t see how massclaiming helps us, though. In an open setup, it immediately gives you pools of people to vote for – if two people claim cop, then you know one is lying. If more people claim VT than can be VT, you have a nice pool of people to lynch from and may confirm some of your power roles. In a closed setup, though, I am not sure how that is effective.

- People can fabricate all sorts of weird roles that may be real given the expansive dr. who universe;

- We are likely to lose power roles to at least two non-town parties (dalek/cybermen), maybe more;

- If a lot of people just claim VT, we don’t have a heuristic to determine how many VTs there can be

- Even if someone feels confirmed due to being the only one to claim a likely role (ex: Dr. Who/Amy/Rory/River who appear in xatalos’ post) the person doesn’t stay trustworthy because there are conversions.

So, I feel like we don’t gain anything from a massclaim. If I am wrong explain why. If there is a heavily flavored closed setups thread with a massclaim, I'm willing to skim it and reevaluate.

On April 05 2014 03:56 Amiko wrote:
JJD: I don't really know what to make of the hopeless comment. I thought I caught him in something, and maybe I did, but I don't know for sure. He became a central point of attention for me and I think my reads shifted n2 largely because of that.

Hopeless' claimed role is not useless at all from my point of view. If you feel differently let me know and I'll give some examples. I still don't like that he presented his checks initially as knowing that Rose visited his target when I feel like that's not a fair assumption to make. But, I agree... I don't think it can make him scum unless it's part of a more elaborate plan where you two confirm each other. It's possible but it feels too remote.

I've raised massclaiming repeatedly for two purposes. One, I think it's a better idea as the game goes on. I'll claim tonight, probably just before night ends.
Second, I thought mentioning massclaims would be an innocuous way to probe to see whether players were changing their minds. Converted players probably have to keep their reads somewhat consistent, but I figured they may be more likely to be open to massclaims.
As an aside, Kita was consistent. But, I still think he could be a cyberman/scum.

On April 05 2014 04:34 austinmcc wrote:
You were on kita with ~30 to go.

Posted you'd lynch kita or toad.

Swapped to toad 1 minute after that, with 32 minutes til lynch (in voting thread, no mention in main thread)

So you made the vote RIGHT AFTER SAYING YOU WANTED TO LYNCH KITA


And right before this you'd said kita was wrong on vivax, should be scumreading everyone based on his vivax logic, so you SHOULD be scummy on kita.

And now you're not sure about kita, when yesterday you were kita/toad, and toad was town, and kita hasn't really done anything, and this does not particularly make sense.

On April 05 2014 05:07 austinmcc wrote:
WRONG DOCTOR KITA

On April 05 2014 05:13 kitaman27 wrote:
My biggest fear is that there is a 2nd third party doctor hunter or something -_-

On April 04 2014 05:14 Hopeless1der wrote:

I didnt, it was completely selfish information mongering. I was hoping to get you to claim who you targetted if you were liable to be lynched.

On April 03 2014 03:47 Hopeless1der wrote:
vivax are you scum with jjd?

On April 03 2014 13:30 Hopeless1der wrote:

Re: response to kita -> kush
1-I think you mean Vivax
2-I found Vivax to be asking a lot of questions and refusing to put up his own discussion. Since the game opened I feel like he's been casually painting me scum, but someone (maybe you or thrawn) said that the fact that he's doing stuff instead of not doing stuff probably points to him being town, so I kind of disregarded him. However i think his questions are really open-ended and basically kush hits things pretty square with this conversation:



It feels like Vivax is just quoting stuff and asking different people "and how does that make you feel?" like he's some glorified therapist.