Doctor Who Mafia 2

On March 30 2014 15:54 kitaman27 wrote:


lol you amuse me.

But you have it backwards. I'm simply trying to gather the pieces for myself. The puzzle is mine to solve.

As for your "web of disruption" post, it has a catchy name, but I'll respond once you come to an actual conclusion.

thrawn is off my naughty list for the moment.

People of interest:

Tehpoofter seems to be asking questions that I don't find all that interesting. His initial vote of slam seems a bit forced.

Amiko asking me or hope for the clarification doesn't seem scummy to me. We were probably just around. His lack of opinion and direction does appear scummy however.
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Hopeless with his "do i need to go through the motions of totes serious voting to get a response?" conveys a kind of "look at me doing someone" without actually coming to a conclusion other than that I'm useless

slam...generally I try to ignore him and the last time I did so I believe he was mafia. Day one survivor claims are usually someone I would lynch, even if I thought they might be a survivor. My biggest worry is that he might be a trolly town who is willing to get lynched and doesn't care, but he wasn't willing to role claim when asked and shows signs of over frustration that doesn't appear genuine. I'll probably leave my vote on him, though we need to avoid the scenario where nobody is under pressure because the lynch is already decided.

kush is someone who usually gets on my nerves early and hasn't done so yet, which is a concern. I seem to remember him playing mafia and acting completely reasonable, but I'll have to look back to familiarize myself with some of his more recent games. In my opinion, thrawn and hope both overreacted to the random vote, yet kush doesn't draw the same conclusion by only expressing suspicion of thrawn. If slam is a survivor, then kush being the first one to defend him may make sense as mafia if he knows his alignment.

On March 31 2014 23:12 kitaman27 wrote:
On raynpelikoneet

So here is what I was doing at the start of this game. I was actually trying to accomplish something with my play. I was reproducing my behavior to a tee from the recent shadow mini mafia game.

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I random voted moments into the game, I refused to provide an explanation when asked, I requested that someone vote with me without details, I asked a similar question when prompted, and I moved off the random vote shortly after.

The goal here was to prompt someone to question my behavior and see if they attempt to make the connection or if they simply pass off my play as scummy. rayn mentioned that he observed shadow and toad and austin played in it, so even if they don't remember the random vote, it would likely be the first place to look as it was my most recent town game. It's important to note that I'm not trying to say that me emulating my shadow mafia play makes me town. I'm saying that the connection is there for anyone interested in finding it.



I was pretty happy that rayn had suggested that was was going to do some research and pushed him in the right direction several times as you can see below.

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On multiple occasions, rayn confirms that he will do the work to back up his initial suspicions.

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Yet when push comes to shove, he decides not to put the effort in. He spends the time into coming up with his thesis that I'm creating a "web of disruption", yet has no interest in backing it up. If he is going to call me scummy, when does he have no interest in catching me?







Now there are three possible explanations:
1) He dropped the ball as town, attacking me without putting in the effort
2) He did the research as mafia, didn't like what he found, and dropped the case to avoid calling me town
3) He is a lazy scum player who didn't want to go after me at a point where several players are calling me town

If rayn thought that I was looking decently townie otherwise, then maybe I'd consider number one. The biggest issue that I have right now is that as far as I can tell, I am rayn's number one scum suspect. He is pushing slam for being anti-town and shows that he may have reconsidered his read on tehpoofer, yet not a word about myself.





rayn describes his play best. I don't think you can argue that he isn't being lazy here. rayn was given the pieces of the puzzle to solve and he chose not to because he "doesn't care".







This line of thought is pretty terrible. He explains his willingness to vote for hopelessness over a minor observation about hope a few hours into the game. Not only does he not consider that foolishness could be wrong, he is using the justification for the vote because he respects foolishness as a player, not because he thinks its a valid argument. He even goes as far as dropping his suspicion of myself due to my interaction with hope.

rayn states that he has done the most scum hunting in the game hands down, he suggests that I am his number one scum read, and he hasn't showed any attempt to figure out my alignment. As he mentioned earlier, he is trying to force the pieces in the wrong order.

The one thing holding me up is
1) His mass claim policy is consistent with his previous behavior as town
2) Slam is one of the most anti-town players in recent memory

Right now I'd probably be leaning towards a rayn lynch and hopefully having a vig take care of slam so he is removed as a discussion topic. I would like to look at a few more individuals before I finalize my vote.