Hogwarts Mafia

On October 07 2013 05:32 Clarity_nl wrote:


no

On October 08 2013 03:59 Sn0_Man wrote:
20 posts an hour aint u bro. Its not hard to track the last /in before my /out.

On October 14 2013 05:29 EchelonTee wrote:
I'm rusty, should I /in here or just wait for a normal mafia?

On October 15 2013 07:13 Blazinghand wrote:
/out

/replace

On October 16 2013 03:02 Koshi wrote:

I like this one.

On October 16 2013 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sn0_man #1 smurfhunter ^_^
this has to be a ploy from BH & I-be-pro to trick people into thinking he is BH though.

On October 17 2013 05:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Hufflepuffs r dweebs.

Syllo's scum tho based on sucking up ro somtheing

On October 17 2013 05:16 Pandain wrote:
Grack is town pretty obvious so far

On October 17 2013 05:20 syllogism wrote:

How is that pretty obvious?

On October 17 2013 06:02 Skanjab1s wrote:


Ptsh, if you think us mighty Slytherins would ally ourselves with bottomfeeders Hufflescum you've got another thing coming.

On October 17 2013 06:21 Skanjab1s wrote:
Try anything and I might have to slyther inside yo mama.

On October 17 2013 06:26 supersoft wrote:




you guys just write it down here or are you actually going to vote?
because if you don't, it looks like you dont want your voting patterns to be in the votingthread.

On October 17 2013 06:40 supersoft wrote:


what holds you back then?

On October 17 2013 07:41 Holyflare wrote:


Pointing it out without waiting for him to do it again later or changing defeats the object of it doesn't it? It's totally baseless, especially if he isn't a native english speaker.

On a different topic let me reiterate:

+ Show Spoiler +


What would be people's motive (Grack) to not participate in an event? These items seem to be useful for finding scum and he implied that he didn't care which house they went to in the QT. Seeing as scum is randomly distributed it would be detrimental to go to another house that you don't know how many scum are in it. Why does he not care?

On October 17 2013 08:10 Holyflare wrote:
You should KNOW you are town so do everything in your power to make it based on your opinion or something you actually agree with. Don't just sit back and idle and hope that someone does something useful. That is a totally defeatist attitude "You do the work for me, hopefully it works out." Our aim is to kill scum, I am trying to do that. Is your aim different?

On October 17 2013 08:17 Holyflare wrote:


There is little to go on and this is something that struck me as odd. Just like everyone else has been doing. Yes, they would. However, why would you be concerened how other people perceive what you're doing? You know you're town, you take control, you win the game. Who cares what scum are interested in doing?

On October 17 2013 08:23 Holyflare wrote:


So many hypotheticals that it's hard to believe you are actually asking me this question:

1) You might be the only one in the house and so most probably can't sway it in your favour, let other houses with more scum win and increase your chance.

2) It's a flavour thing and you don't need items to find out who scum are because you know who is scum and who is town.

etc etc. How was that hard to understand?

On October 17 2013 10:46 Mattchew wrote:
yea

StorrZerg, Palmar, Mattchew, Holyflare, Hopeless1der, Grackaroni be reppin hufflepuff... like fucking losers

On October 17 2013 10:52 Mattchew wrote:

i didnt like this "lol", i thought it looked pretty weak

On October 17 2013 15:43 Pandain wrote:
Grack is not certain town but probably town.

He posted a lot early on and made jokes. I haven't seen scum do that early on though I acknowledge it could happen. Usually town are the very first ones to post, and him making jokes amplifies my town reads.

He also made very weak arguments in Thug Life which is why I thought he was scum, but it ended up being wrong.



This is fine for an explanation, what about you?

On October 18 2013 02:13 Palmar wrote:
but I'm not scum grackaroni :

also hopelesswonder is maybe town

On October 18 2013 03:00 supersoft wrote:


one question are you a squib?

On October 18 2013 03:07 Pandain wrote:
Given the fact Palmar isn't going to do shit without X happening he's good chance of scum. Also I haven't played with him in forever but isn't he good on day one and nail people?

On October 18 2013 06:13 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
But Grack, Palmar is probably town...

-rayn

On October 18 2013 06:17 LastArgument wrote:


No, not really.

On October 18 2013 08:50 LastArgument wrote:
In that case, you should be voting me as a liar, sir.

@rayn/koshi - I will wait to see what Cephiro posts tomorrow. One post does not a contribution make, that I can certainly agree with.

@Holyflare, while I admire your sentiment, I'm still not going to lynch someone I've played with several times to uphold your idea of good play. I either have a mafia-read on Palmar or I don't, and right this minute I don't have another option than wait and see.

I agree with your suspicions about Sn0_Man, he looks particularly uninvolved compared to his normal towngames and he doesn't have anything in his filter this game which suggests he might be town. There's actually a whole slew of players with a little contribution but nowhere near enough, I'll see if I can make anything of it tomorrow.

On October 18 2013 08:57 LastArgument wrote:
But every time it matters, all my words desert me; so anyone can hurt me, and they do. So what happens now?

On October 18 2013 09:47 Pandain wrote:
Grack if you have a mason ability please mason me so we can solve this game.

On October 18 2013 11:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
Im kinda a mini player. People kinda... blend together in my mind in these games

Free townreads for LA/Toad/ET/SS for now tho.

On October 18 2013 15:16 Blazinghand wrote:
hi still drunk going to slep

On October 18 2013 10:15 Pandain wrote:


My basic problem with this is that even though there is a possibility that he just doesn't give a shit about the thread right now,

• He's not acting like it, he's keeping up with the thread and waiting to see if Mocsta responds.
  
  
• Along with keeping up with the thread in that regards, he has to also read it, or it's some really really weird counter-productive isolationist approach to mafia that deliberately keeps him ignorant
  
  
• It's ultimately not justifiable from a town perspective in a good way, only the I don't give a shit way.
  
  

Hope that explains my view on that.

Also agree on Mattchew of course.

On October 19 2013 03:27 syllogism wrote:
Sigh, this lynch is way too easy, but we can always blame it on Rayn

On October 19 2013 04:55 LastArgument wrote:
No gloating at me please Grack <3

On October 19 2013 06:35 Blazinghand wrote:


damn i can't stop giggling at myself, this is a great post

On October 20 2013 06:57 Blazinghand wrote:
man so i now i havet o liek read and stuff damn

On October 20 2013 07:00 StorrZerg wrote:
Lets kill BH

##VOTE BlazingHand

On October 20 2013 07:41 syllogism wrote:

He suggested that him being suspicious of you should give him town credit because "you" flipped mafia, when in fact LonelyMeow did. It's irrelevant though and likely just a mistake, don't worry about it.

On October 20 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
If I had to pick from that list I would want to lynch grack first since he will never reveal his alignment. learned from thug life that he is apt to troll as both alignments so that would be my first pick.

On October 20 2013 12:53 Sn0_Man wrote:
whys there a scum in huffnpuff?

On October 20 2013 13:35 VayneAuthority wrote:


the point still stands. so your rebuttal to my long post is annoyingly pointless when it doesnt refute or move the conversation anywhere.

On October 20 2013 13:39 Holyflare wrote:


The difference being everyone had really really bad points of why they were town reads.

On October 20 2013 14:57 Blazinghand wrote:
don't lynch me

On October 21 2013 02:43 syllogism wrote:

Without seeing this in context it's a bit difficult to see how this makes him town. I'll take another look at mattchew/hopeless, but we need more input from people with access to your qt.

On October 20 2013 02:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Grats on reading the thread bro...

On October 21 2013 02:56 justanothertownie wrote:

Still you wrongly accused me of this first^^ We can do this all game if you want...

On October 21 2013 04:15 Skanjab1s wrote:


but grak wut abwt da hufelpuf scum. y do u nt care 4 huflepufe grak? y u do dis grak

On October 21 2013 10:41 Mocsta wrote:

Who then?

On October 21 2013 10:48 Mocsta wrote:
Ok. So bh is scum for being useless.

Why is cephiro townier?

On October 21 2013 11:10 Mocsta wrote:
Where did I say he killed people in his group.

I want to kill him because I think he has gone about his power/role in an anti town style.
I argued before that even if his power is town. The risk/rewards suggests he is a good lynch candidate regardless.

On October 21 2013 21:12 Cephiro wrote:
Alright, I will be here with small breaks in between until lynch. First of all, I am not going to do a complete roleclaim. Mocsta has told you pretty much all information that is relevant for now. Secondarily, I need two more lovers. Anyone wanna volunteer? It may or may not benefit you.

On October 21 2013 21:17 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Thoughts about my case on your Housemate?

On October 21 2013 21:33 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Then why is Mattchew his thought process nowhere to find in the thread, he is talking to a confirmed townie his read on Hopeless. He couldn't have been testing Syllo, the guy is confirmed town.

Why is Mattchew considered town in your QT and not in this thread?

Mattchew is the Chromatically from GoT.

On October 21 2013 21:43 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

If you want to see if somebody agrees with your read you say give him something to work with.

Also, I hoped discussing the case with you would help us both figuring out Mattchew further. But I'll let you be. Seems like you are not interested in adding your own view on Mattchew. oki.

On October 21 2013 23:39 Sn0_Man wrote:

I'm claiming during the N2 resolution period you can wait till then. I'm not a lynch candidate and I don't have special information that should influence this lynch.

On October 21 2013 23:46 justanothertownie wrote:

Best reason ever.

On October 21 2013 23:49 Sn0_Man wrote:
Can anybody in this thread read? (barring syllo).

I CAN ACCOUNT FOR EVERYTHING THAT ISN'T LONEMEOW

also

WHAT HAPPENED LAST NIGHT ISN'T RELEVANT I'M CLAIMING DURING RESOLUTION PERIOD NOW STFU.

Now. Lynch Scum. Currently heavily prefer Ceph though he might not actually be scum (rofl) simply because his role sounds utterly disastrous and he is showing no desire to work for town victory. I didn't expect 3p to exist but i'm less certain regarding that opinion right now.

On October 22 2013 00:01 Holyflare wrote:


Someone who isn't town or mafia, ie. SK etc.

On October 21 2013 20:33 syllogism wrote:
BH subbed into the game, hasn' t done anything and isn't playing. I don't see how he could possibly be town.

On October 22 2013 03:31 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Ohyeah. Smart. Damnit.

How can I not find a target to lynch.

On October 22 2013 01:15 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Last game Pandain claimed scum with his scumbuddy at the start of the game. He can hard buddy or hard distance from his scumbuddies. What he says about someone does not tell anything about their alignment, only Pandain's.

That being said i think HF is town.

-rayn

On October 22 2013 03:22 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Please read Holyflare. I want to lynch him. Or we. As in rayn and I.

On October 22 2013 05:16 syllogism wrote:
The vote counts weren't close until the last minute. I doubt mafia would have revealed the secret vote unless Chairman Yang is mafia, and possibly the floridian, or someone was really sniping with the vote.

On October 21 2013 06:32 Skanjab1s wrote:


What about yamato!

On October 22 2013 05:37 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack. Do you think both Skanjab and the guy casting the secret vote are scum? That's serious face showing.

We just need CR to flip. As soon as possible. I hope we don't have to waste a full day on that.

On October 17 2013 23:55 Skanjab1s wrote:


Tunneling is my style. Reading into things is the way I roll, baby. I do not let off my scumreads because they "could be valuable" or because they are vets.

On October 22 2013 06:12 Skanjab1s wrote:

Then you're wrong.

On October 22 2013 06:17 Skanjab1s wrote:


That is incredibly disappointing because I don't even see how I am that scummy.

On October 22 2013 09:29 Blazinghand wrote:
I actually am doing some thoughts on skan and the D2 vote that's making me think he's scum. he claims his hands were too slow, but I'm betting he PLANNED to swap after the deadline and not have his vote count, but got surprised by the secret vote and stutters actually flipped. If stutters were scum I'd say skan is scum 100%, but stutters flipped town so I'm still thinking it through. I'm gonna have some dinner and put together some more complete thoughts on what happened with the D2 lynch.

On October 22 2013 09:46 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Two things that made me think yamato is town:
(1) I don't think yamato would have confidency to attack me first thing in the game as scum.
(2) I don't think yamato was overly trying to look townie and/or was scared of something (like he usually does as scum).
(3) Yamato has been fairly "useless" in other games aswell as town. That's not alignment indicative for him. (1) and (2) are.

-rayn

On October 19 2013 00:47 Skanjab1s wrote:


Classic "why me?" scum defense.

I find yamato's reaction to my case acceptable. His sheeping onto Cephiro is not the most pressing concern to me at the moment. You are much more interesting, baby.

On October 21 2013 02:10 Skanjab1s wrote:


I still very much believe that yamato is scum, he didn't refute the points against him at all, he just said "ohthiscaseisshitushit" as a defense. Also it is apparently his scum meta to post less and less as the game goes on, as he has been doing.

I am not as confident in my scumread of snoman anymore, I'm null/leaning town on him now.

On October 22 2013 05:00 Skanjab1s wrote:


Yeah ill vote for stutters, CRay looks like he will contribute mo'

On October 17 2013 23:55 Skanjab1s wrote:


Tunneling is my style. Reading into things is the way I roll, baby. I do not let off my scumreads because they "could be valuable" or because they are vets.

On October 22 2013 06:06 Skanjab1s wrote:


In retrospect, the things Stutters was doing were not scummier than what I posted on Yamato, I do not even know why I switched, but alas these are the things that made me think Stutters was scum:

> Coming out of nowhere with just "Ceph is not town, because his role". Not offering any further insight into his scum read on Ceph

> Says that as town, he doesn't just coast by (which he was doing). Then says that he is an infrequent poster, but as town he makes his thoughts known. As I've just said, he wasn't making his thoughts known at all.


> Him telling someone to read the summary of Ceph's actions in the qt, but then someone else pointing out that there was no such summary, made me think that he was just saying it in thread to make it seem as if he was contributing, at least in his QT.

Those were the things he posted that gave me scumfeels.

On October 22 2013 12:38 Skanjab1s wrote:
I hate how you people put forward the "him showing up last minute was not a coincidence" as though it is a fact, it is quite annoying. I've already responded to all of these points, but ill keep going.

As I've stated, yamato's reaction was not satisfactory, I assume that the reason I said it was is because I was focusing on pushing Sno_man and didn't want to get pulled off track.

For these points, you assume that if I am town I would play in a perfect pro-town way, which is just not the case. It was a mistake to change the vote from my long standing scumread yamato, to stutters, but that is what I did. While it was not the optimal/logical play, it doesn't make me scum, just town with a lapse in judgement.


Like I said, I was reading the thread for the hour before, and only finished very close to the deadline. You even say that the secret vote + my after-deadline vote doesn't add up, but still try to reach for an explanation that would make me scum. Surely my scumteam would have mentioned that they were going to use a secret vote? I highly doubt that if I were scum I would be taken by surprise by it, it wouldn't have had to be perfectly organized either, I'd just have to look at the 6-6 tie and know that stutters would be lynched.
Also, although this is no consolidation at all, for future reference perhaps, as scum I'm a bit more selfish, I wouldn't jeopardize myself to save a teammate.

On October 22 2013 13:05 Skanjab1s wrote:

The point on me not being in the thread is a matter of perspective, really. You see it as me purposely staying out, whereas it is actually me only finishing reading the thread close to deadline. There is not much that I can say to change your mind on this.

On October 22 2013 13:26 Skanjab1s wrote:


(1) The reasoning wasn't CR could be useful, it was that CR looked as though he was going to do something, whereas stutters was doing nothing at all, and showed no sign that he would start doing anything.
(2) Again, your interpretation is that I "tried to move the lynch off" of yamato, when I actually just preferred to lynch stutters. (bad move, yes.) I was fine with either lynch and was having trouble deciding between them.
(3) My stance on yamato doesn't switch back and forth, I think he is scum, why I stated that he reacted fine to my case I have already explained, although I think it was silly to say that.
(4) Yeah, I did not read through Stutters' filter, I didn't have time. The reasoning of Stutter's being as strong a scumread as yamato is self-admittedly weak in hindsight. At the time I did not think that was the case.

On October 22 2013 13:38 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I have a problem. Why is Grackaroni saying to multiple people that they "tried to move the lynch from yamato/CR to Stutters"? That's a fucking misrepresentation.

Although this is weird:

Why was this a bad move? Do you think it's the absolute trith CR is scum? In case he is not, why was it a mistake to lynch Stutters over him?

-rayn

On October 22 2013 13:53 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack tried to push the same "why are you trying to switch the lynch bla bla" bullshit on me earlier on..

-rayn

On October 22 2013 13:56 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Oh god. What's the point of sacrificing 2 scum when CR is probably gonna die anyways tomorrow if he is scum?
You are seriously saying Skan saved CR and outed himself in the process when it's kinda guaranteed that a player as CR's caliber (no offense) will get lynched tomorrow if he is scum?

-rayn

On October 22 2013 13:58 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

That's bullshit. I answered you as soon as you asked me. And your question was "why are you trying to dvert the lynch from yamato". To be specific:

Same bullshit.

[i]-rayn

On October 22 2013 03:31 Grackaroni wrote:

You don't want to kill Yamato?

On October 22 2013 14:00 Blazinghand wrote:
skan didnt save CR anyways his vote happened post deadline. plus all this talk about CR scum with skan is bad because it's drawing associative tells between unflipped players.


I don't buy that skan just happened yo catch up as the deadline hit though. like its not like you can't tell the time until you've read the thread. tl has clocks everywhere

On October 22 2013 14:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Did you even read my post? Do you think it's better for Skan to look better in comparsion to out himself by saving CR, who if scum, will get lynched tomorrow 100%?

-rayn

On October 22 2013 14:05 Holyflare wrote:
that's 10 powers and 16 players left the 6 people remaining:

rayn
ceph
vayne
skan
ray
onegu


one of you people has a fucking secret vote, if it's impossible for skanjab to have it then it has to be the remaining one of you fuckers

On October 22 2013 14:29 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
I give you that the secret vote is from mafia.
We do not have a secret vote and i highly doubt Cephiro has one.


This is fucking idiotic because at least Vayne has been active in house QT between lynch and now.

-rayn

On October 22 2013 14:35 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

No claim about powers anywhere. Though his reads have been kinda off this game compared to usual.

-rayn

On October 22 2013 14:40 Blazinghand wrote:


"got caught"

On October 22 2013 14:47 syllogism wrote:

No, don't do that. Why would you do that?

On October 22 2013 15:26 Grackaroni wrote:
Cleeeeeeeaarly Vayne was angry with the state of his mafia team!

On October 22 2013 23:28 Mocsta wrote:

Or.... mafia realise its essentially game over, and now just trying to fuck with town as much as they can for some form of dignity.

How is that any more far fetched than what you were assuming with Skanjab prior?

On October 23 2013 01:18 Onegu wrote:



This post here makes me think town, his first first thought was Im playing in a Harry Potter game of course im not a squib. It seems really genuine.

On October 23 2013 02:14 Sn0_Man wrote:

I'm expecting a better explanation of this during the resolution period

On October 23 2013 02:16 Onegu wrote:



Im giving you a town read for it...

On October 23 2013 02:26 Skanjab1s wrote:

So do you think there is a miller in hufflepuff too, then? The only other possibility is that you believe storr is town, but also lying about his cop check?

On October 23 2013 03:01 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
But still nobody in Hufflepuff can tell us why they have townreads on each other. Except for "because" and "active".
And now it seems Grack (and I guess that means HufflePuff, unless the 600 posts in the QT are about birds and bees) has scumreads on everybody outside his house except for JAT, BH and Snowman.


Impressive House. Impressive.

On October 23 2013 03:10 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

I didn't forget him obviously, it made your confirmed town list look very "impressive". Because look at your filter, you have put VA down as town for the entire game. So you must be very certain about BH, JAT and Snowman.

On October 23 2013 03:02 Blazinghand wrote:
bah, hufflepuffs, what do you expect

On October 23 2013 04:05 syllogism wrote:
Did Mattchew really mason you grack?

On October 23 2013 04:55 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Why would we ask you to paraphrase a bullet?

On October 23 2013 05:14 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
and where did Vayne get this wealth of knowledge from?

On October 23 2013 05:06 Hopeless1der wrote:

and where did Vayne get this wealth of knowledge from?

On October 23 2013 05:20 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

I agree that is most likely.
But Grack isn't on that page for some strange reason.

On October 23 2013 05:21 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Grack
I can't find your roleclaim. repeat please?

On October 23 2013 05:24 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

That's quite epic.

I am Ron Weasley.
I have 3 retarded candies.

You really want to test me?

On October 23 2013 05:25 raynpelikonoshi wrote:

Does the person you shoot get a notification?

-rayn

On October 23 2013 05:29 raynpelikonoshi wrote:
Okay so our vote stands.
That's a fucking retarded fakeclaim.

-rayn

On October 20 2013 12:45 VayneAuthority wrote:
If I had to pick from that list I would want to lynch grack first since he will never reveal his alignment. learned from thug life that he is apt to troll as both alignments so that would be my first pick.