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GoT Mafia: Lords and Liars
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On August 01 2013 02:45 Xatalos wrote: I agree that it seems a bit too advantageous for Mafia to probably get majority in the voting by D3-D4. Although this problem might fade away if we increase the player amount, I guess. If everyone form your faction flipped and none of those guys was scum yet, I predict rather short livings for you. Wouldn't worry too much about it. | ||
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On August 06 2013 11:54 DrParnassus wrote: The game is starting exactly 26 hours and 10 minutes from this post. the deadline is at 05:00 GMT (+00:00). We b time-tags nao. | ||
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On August 08 2013 20:53 Xatalos wrote: Oh Dandel Ion... Are you scum again? What's your take on this post? load of shit. What happened: As obviously the best town player in the house, as well as obviously town when town, it was clear I was the best lord from the start. chrom said he wanted to be lord, but seemed pretty rational about not being the best choice since he's 1) average 2) a lurker but solstice on the other hand started acting up, and tried to strongarm his way to being lord by every means possible, even lying and misrepresenting my townplay to make himself look better (lol). Never even considering another lord but himself, even though he had stated HIMSELF that I was probably town and he'd elect me if he couldn't be eleced. And I decided he indeed couldn't be elected. Then he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it. So Koshi, that guy said he didn't want to be lord at the start. ok weird but w/e. The he said he'd vote sol over me. So I slammed him with my spears of logic of why I'm best lord and he started acting all pissy and threw a hissy-fit about it. He then also decided to want to be lord for no reason at all. That was the tipping point from which on it was utterly IMPOSSIBLE to get anything out of him. every response then was needlessly passive/agressive, choke-full with either bad logic, or no logic at all, things like that. So basically he claimed scum. So I couldn't elect koshi cuz he was being a scummy bitch I couldn't elect sol cuz he was being a bitch I couldn't elect myself cuz koshi and sol were running around like emotional teenage girls. So I had to elect the lurker that's prolly not even going to use the PM ability cuz afk, just so we get one at all. My house is full of scum and baddies. I want to switch houses. | ||
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koshi was saying i can't be lord because i was scumhunting (i know makes as much sense as it sounds) solstice was not trying to read other players at all, just tried everything short of selling his mother to become lord (not shifty at all) Out of the two, Koshi is pretty sure to be scum, solstice might be a second scum, who knows, it wouldn't surprise me, but I'm still not one way or the other on him. koshi scum tho. house is full of scum. | ||
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Guess why I told him I was going for him. preemptive defense gg scum | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:45 Clarity_nl wrote: Dandel you can come join my house, np. Koshi played pretty weirdly as town in Titanic so I wouldn't quite say he claimed scum. That said, he did say he was trolling to see how far he could take it without taking heat (and he was town, sigh. I hate to come back to this subject, but Xatalos could you explain how hiding house member lists slows scumhunting? He was openly going for a no-lord voting. He's not town. I've seen retarded town. I've seen trolls. This is not it. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote: Dandel. What I said was completely true. Why are you not mentioning that your spears of logic were killing Kush because it is win/win. That's THE ONLY reason you told me why to be lord. What other reason was there? None. Jeezus. Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected. _________________________ @ all others And of course Oats is more town than me for shitting up this thread 24/7 and even lying about not knowing how many pages there are in this game to try to get me mad. What reasons has solstice given you when you voted him? What reasons have YOU given? none, I say. Stop tunneling on a little joke, you're as bad as sol. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:55 Koshi wrote: Funny when I say to you that I don't want to be Lord because I think S0lstice is a better choice = being scum But when Chroma says to you that he wants to be Lord but he thinks S0lstice/DI is a better choice = super town & elected. See i dont even understand why you got there. which is weird because i always explain things very nicely and consiscly. | ||
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On August 08 2013 21:50 Xatalos wrote: LOL. Well, this post from you is definitely more than I got out of you in all your posts *combined* when you were scum last time. So I'm pretty sure you're town and telling the truth. yeah tbh to anyone in my house with a functioning brain i should absolutely be confirmed town just based on effort but as I said, nobody there actually tries to read the other players.... Chrom seems pretty null from that. Both s0Lstice and Koshi look scummy. I'm more concerned about s0Lstice than Koshi, since Koshi is new (although he fooled me well last game) and s0Lstice should be able to see that you're a good choice for Lord - at least better than Chrom or Koshi (or probably himself, even if he was town). koshi is not that new, so it doesn't excuse him. agreed on sol, he should know how inferior he is. fun fact I even tried to explain it to him but he refuses to talk about it while deflecting it saying "oh that's just ego stuff and doesn't help u read me" which is odd considering how often I told him it does help, and also considering how little he is interested in reading people. Almost like he doesn't want other to read him, huh. still think koshi was scummier by far, too bad I can't copy-paste PMs ;_; | ||
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fix that shit if you want anybody to see it. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:04 Koshi wrote: He said he was experienced, a good scumhunter and a teamplayer. You instead said you were going to kill kush, and don't tell me it was a little joke because you said it 3 times. After that you said that s0lstice was scum 2 times... No spears of logic were ever fired. I said I wanted to be lord because it was clear that not S0l or you should have been Lord. So it was way better for me to be Lord and then listen to what you 2 had to say. THE EXACT same thing that eventually Chroma got elected. I said I was experienced, a good scumhunter, and obviously town when town. how is that not logic? sol isn't any of what he claimed. He talks about teamplaying and putting heads together and whatnot, but he doesn't listen, and I've not been able to make him share even a single read. tl;dr: he's bullshitting. a joke is not a joke because i just went with it? what bolded still makes no sense | ||
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So you claim you're listening to me blindly, but do what you do so you don't have to listen to me? | ||
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Sure, get me modkilled. Way to go. On August 07 2013 11:07 DrParnassus wrote: 3 hours till game start. Two hours from now I will ask for silence and then begin sending out role pms. As stated earlier we are starting on N0, and nights are silent. Only in-house player to player pms are allowed during N0, there will be no other actions aside from pms and lord elections. You can only use TL Forum PMS for this. You aren't allowed to post logs of pms or copy and past any text/timestamps from a pm you received from either host or player. You are required to vote for the nightly election, do so by pm'ing this account. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:12 Acrofales wrote: My past experience with s0lstice is that he is, in fact, decent at sniffing out plotting rebels. I doubt I'd call him experienced, but he isn't green behind the ears. Being a teamplayer is completely subjective and often dependent on the team in the cutthroat environment that is the Game of Thrones. I have no idea what happened behind the closed doors of Storm's End, but shutting down s0lstice for these reasons seems disingenious. Just saying. His argument for being lord over me was basically that he's by and far the best town player. Which is not true because that's me. 1) my reads are better 2) I'm able to look town as town simple. I'm not saying he's a complete moron (except to his face because it pisses him off), but I'm better. And apart from his alleged qualities, there was no reason given to elect him, so clearly he should be able to tell that I make the better lord just from that. Especially since he's not actually that bad, you see. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:12 Xatalos wrote: This is getting confusing. Koshi, could you explain your line of thought during N0 more clearly? good luck getting an answer. i've asked him this 10 times | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:17 Koshi wrote: Dandel does not want to work with s0lstice s0lstice does not want to work with DI ----> Koshi says he could be lord so they can both work with him. How is that not 100% logical? Funny thing is, a couple hours later for that exact same reason Chroma gets elected and DI is yelling at me....... Also, I told DI from the start that I didn't want to vote him because I knew how he played in NWM, so DI his response to that is that he will be killing Kush no matter what. because chrom was not an inconsistent passive-aggressive emo about it and actually tried to read other people at least A LITTLE not something you did so far. | ||
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1) say he doesnt want lord, sit back at lets people argue 2) people argue 3) he tries to capitalize and go for lord once that's going on 4) scummy plans foiled by Dandel The Ion who had to beat sol's face in repeatedly just to get consolidation 5) mad cuz plans foiled by sexy dandel | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:21 iamperfection wrote: chrom i want you to describe to me what went down in the thread. joke's on you he's afk. just pm him tho | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:23 Koshi wrote: I just summarized what happened last 6 hours and gave my conclusion on that? What more can I do? I am actually trying to play serious and solve this game... This is me being 100% town. point me to where this happened. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:24 Oberyn wrote: Was Chrom ever willing to vote for you over himself Dandel? Maybe. He said he might/would + Show Spoiler + but he didn't sound crazy about it imo but who knows. tho sol said the same thing yet never pulled through. chrom did sound the towniest of the bunch, but that's like being the best student in special class in this house. On August 08 2013 22:24 Oberyn wrote: Why is Koshi the one you call scummy, yet sol was the one lying and misrepresenting things? What was he lying about? Because koshi is scummier. sol was lying and misrepresenting but at least it was somewhat possible to have a discussion with him (although he too dodged a lot of points [koshi dodged all of them though so he takes the cake] ) He was mainly trashtalking me to the other two housies and misrepresenting my townplay, as well as massively overselling his. I've said that already, I'm sure. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:27 Koshi wrote: First I tried to create a good atmosphere to find scum, I said that we should discuss the members of the houses instead of being afraid of it. Then I pointed out Oats shitting up this thread. Then I prevented you for framing me and me getting lynched. Everything is good for town. What have you done? null blergh, null blergh, null blergh. Preempting a read you knew was coming just so your position looked better.... null at best. town was nothing about this. I'm actually looking for scum. Oh hey sick good idea! You have not looked for scum. How will you find scum if you don't look for scum? | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:34 Oberyn wrote: And how are you aware for what he said in PMs you couldn't have possibly been involved in? Did one of your other house members come to you and inform you that he was misrepresenting your townplay? Koshi apparantly believed sol without question when he told him that and he told me as much, yes. Chrom also said that sol tried to make himself sound better and me worse. So yeah. | ||
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A bit more likely he's just scum with koshi though. The way koshi went about saying he's voting sol over me without explaining it or listening to my reasons also suggests as much. Koshi still better lynch tho. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:37 Dandel Ion wrote: Thing is there's a small chance sol just has some serious delusions of grandour. A bit more likely he's just scum with koshi though. The way koshi went about saying he's voting sol over me without explaining it or listening to my reasons also suggests as much. Koshi still better lynch tho. ^ to clarify this part happened before i even said anything at all because i was asleep start of the game. so all his cute little excuses he tries to cling to dont count because he didn't have them by then. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:38 Acrofales wrote: Okay, lets roll back for a second. Lets assume DI is an upstanding Baratheon, and not Blackfyre scum. The only reason Koshi would make a big deal over not voting for DI, inventing nonsensical reasons for voting for s0lstice is if they are both Blackfyre sympathisers. If Koshi is a secret plotting rebel, but s0lstice isn't, then it's possible Koshi would make a stink, but it seems to serve no real purpose (unless the Blackfyres are irrationally afraid of DI). If s0lstice is a secret plotting rebel, then he just duped Koshi. I guess this is plausible, but the main suspect here seems to be koshi, not s0lstice. So what exactly is koshi's motivation for this debacle, unless s0lstice is a filthy Blackfyre rebellion together with him. So... what is more likely, DI: they are both scum, or you're all three loyal to the realm, but confused about each other? I am assuming Chromatically is an unwitting bystander, because that's what this all seems like from over here. If he was more involved, please tell us about his role in this. well chrom has been bystanding basically just because he was afk so much. he did however not fail the test that koshi failed so spectacularily. cuz when I told chrom "sol is scum" in a oneliner without explanation he actually 1) asked for reasons 2) talked about the reasons 3) told me he was more suspicious of koshi instead and that i should look into him. 3) is a towntell in multiple ways which I won't go into right now so yeah chrom wasn't doing much but it's not like he was super shifty about it and he's (again) the only housie that showed interest in figuring out the players in the house. | ||
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On August 08 2013 22:39 Xatalos wrote: Could you explain how Koshi was inconsistent in your PM conversations? 1) says the best scumhunter should be lord 1.5) does not vote the best scumhunter, votes the last place he himself stated to share with chrom 2) says he and chrom are in similar positions/places 2.5) does not even think about electing chrom but wants himself only because "it's me lol", tries to threaten a no-lord voting because "i (=dandel) cant convince sol to vote with me anyways lololol", so he's basically tried to blackmail me into voting for him 3) says he doesn't want to be lord 3.5) suddenly wants to be lord, utterly unable to explain why 4) says he won't vote for me because I'm tunneling and won't vote solstice because "there is suspicion on him" (aforementioned oneliner without explanation lol) 4.5) doesn't really fit the numbering thing but this is basically a paradoxon because he's saying he won't listen to me, but won't vote the guy he wanted lord half the phase because I'm suspicious of him. 4.6) If he wasn't listening to me, he wouldn't have listened period, but he's ran straight out of excuses and can't find any. 4.6.1) he probably thought I wouldn't notice because I was tunneling sol apparantly 4.7) at that point i wasn't even tunneling sol, but he didn't care to check that. | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:17 Koshi wrote: DI told me that s0lstice was scum again 2 hours later: I asked him why and I told him I found s0lstice genuine and without extra agenda. DI replied to me his read on s0ltice and only after that I ran for lord. I checked, I did NOT share any kind of read on sol. The exchange you are mentioning went: SexyDandel: sol es scum (sick paraphrasing) DirtyPeasant: why he looks interested in being lord (not "town" or "interested in the game", but "interested in being lord" how the fuck is that a reason to vote him if it's not for me) DirtyPeasant: and I think you have an additional agenda SexyDandel: yeah no shit sherlock I've told you my additional agenda, has solstice done that? -THE END- Can anybody see a read in that? I don't. Because at that point I wasn't even tunneling sol that badly anymore. Would be weird if I had shared a scumread in that case. | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote: I always answered his questions and made my thoughts clear. also a lie ^ | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:39 Koshi wrote: You forgot that we had that discussion 2 hours before that as well. That one? SexyDandel: koshi es scum DirtyPeasant: do you actually think he's scum? SexyDandel: dunno -THE END- Read is where exactly? | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:30 Koshi wrote: Him putting the spotlight on himself is exactly what he did in NWM and he got himself almost lynched for it., only because his scumbuddies didn't buss him after all. This time he is trying to get me lynched instead of himself. But being in the spotlight seem to be a normal thing for DI so I don't think anything of that. holy shit rarely have i seen something this wrong the last time was when I read sol saying he was a better town player than me. | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:41 Dandel Ion wrote: That one? SexyDandel: koshi es scum DirtyPeasant: do you actually think he's scum? SexyDandel: dunno -THE END- Read is where exactly? note how he didn't actually ask for reasons (he never did), he just asked if i was serious. town wants to know reasons, scum would only want to make use of the level of seriousness (which he tried to do in his quest for lordship that failed so throughly) | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:46 Koshi wrote: DI w.e man, if you want to persue me you are going to lynch town. I might be wrong about some things but from the PMs you sent me I was never going to elect you Lord. Well, I am not going to ever elect you now obviously. Let me paraphrase this exchange to so that the other players have a frame of reference: DirtyPeasant: *  istinct lack of any form of scumhunting**SexyDandel: *Sexy awesome reasons why Koshi is scum* SexyDandel: *Sexy awesome reasons why Koshi is scum* SexyDandel: *Sexy awesome reasons why Koshi is scum* DirtyPeasant: * istinct lack of any form of scumhunting**SexyDandel: *Sexy awesome reasons why Koshi is scum* SexyDandel: *Sexy awesome reasons why Koshi is scum* SexyDandel: *Sexy awesome reasons why Koshi is scum* DirtyPeasant: "wah wah you made boo boo i dont like you" DirtyPeasant: * istinct lack of any form of scumhunting** | ||
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On August 08 2013 23:50 Oberyn wrote: You yourself said he asked why in a post earlier. Is this untrue? What did sol lie about? Why did you think so strongly that he was scum? wtf is it with you and sol I'm tunneling koshi here. I didn't "strongly" think sol was scum, I only phrased it as such to get reads on the other two. Well, actually just towards Chrom, @koshi i actually have said "retard or scum" which is something else entirely. Again, why do you have such a boner for sol? | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:01 strongandbig wrote: So hey guys I be The Lord of house stark Also iphone capitalizes the phrase The Lord apparent lol First thoughts: I think dandel's playstyle is bothe irksome and actively anti town in multiple ways, so I'm feeling pretty ambivalent towards any argument that someone is scum based on how they interacted with dandel in pms. oh hey a meaningless post without reads by snb quelle surprise why/how are you lord? | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:04 Oberyn wrote: You're welcome to tunnel koshi, but when you use wording like this, I'm trying to understand if you're being sensationalistic or sincere. You call out sol as lying and misrepresenting your play, which almost certainly points to you viewing him as scum, then post that you haven't decided one way or another, then decide that you've found two scum players a few hours into the game. You post that koshi didn't ask reasons why sol is scum, but also posted that koshi did ask why and posted reason he felt he was town. You're playing emotionally to justify your tunnel, which I view as scummy. Either yamato is mafia and already knows the identities of House Martell or he is town, making an anti-town decision, but is still not scum. Him posting the house list doesn't mean Onegu should be more suspicious of him. No, he just asked if I was serious. Not why. | ||
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details. while maybe (or maybe not remember im paraphrasing here) saying the word he does not pursue the reasons. Arguing whether or not he ever said the word why is mere semantics. | ||
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whatevs IT SLIPPED MY MIND | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:33 strongandbig wrote: Do players get informed when they get hit by KP? why should they we're not even told how much hp we have.. | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:39 Chromatically wrote: DI and Koshi, do either of you think that the other one is lying about what happened? Koshi avoid lying by not talking about things and not explaining himself. So no he hasn't reeeeeally lied yet. Technically. | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:42 Oberyn wrote: You've mentioned that koshi has lied multiple times. Why call him a liar if that isn't the case? small lies. | ||
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On August 09 2013 00:48 Oberyn wrote: Based on this new information from Chrom would you rather lynch sol or koshi? considering that koshi has not yet even looked for scum, his defense was wholly underwhelming and he still didn't explain anything I've asked him to 235981729387 times now, I still prefer koshi actually. But I am fine with solstice. well i was "fine" with it before. So I guess I should rather say i'm "happy" with it. | ||
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On August 09 2013 01:27 Chromatically wrote: Why wouldn't scum act upset and try to get you lynched for this? what my lord said | ||
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2) That somehow means I'm defending sol 3) apparantly sol is town even tho he's never heard a word from sol himself (not in the thread at least) 4) CONNECTION CASES Risen, brother, you are not town are you? Good I didn't think so | ||
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On August 09 2013 03:45 iamperfection wrote: very try hard for scum no? Its just was full of stupid If he was trying at all, he wouldn't read me incorrectly. Not like it's hard. | ||
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On August 09 2013 03:53 Oberyn wrote: Dandel is playing thread bully and I'm strongly considering switching my vote to put him in time out. Nearly every player (koshi, sol, s&B, risen) that has brought up suspicion of dandel, he has responded by attacking their abilities and suggesting that they could be scum. This is extremely indicative of mafia play. Could the Lannisters explain to me why they felt iamp was the best choice as Lord? not at all, I haven't even called you scum yet. | ||
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On August 09 2013 06:13 Acrofales wrote: I am going to step in to protect my vassal johnnywup. I initially suspected him because he yelled his true name in our dining hall as he entered Highgarden. It seemed naive at best, and fishing for others' role names at worst. Since then this has been clarified and I suspect it was just a naive gaff to gain our trust. However, in public he seems overly paranoid about it; possibly because both Sharrant and I were immediately suspicious of his motives. He claimed to have never heard of evil magician assassins who use name magic to murder you in your sleep. The whole discussion played out in a way that I believe him. Now, this just plain doesn't jibe with the suspicions s0lstice is trying to mount against him. DI, Koshi, Chromatically: does s0lstice's explanation do justice to what happened in the confines of Storm's End? Well it certainly bears resemblance to the nonsense he's been blathering so far, little as that helps. I am not sure what he means of me lying. I have not done such thing. Reads, he certainly has not given out any, try as he might make it sound like it. My inbox keeps feeling terribly devoid of them. | ||
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On August 09 2013 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote: I feel that kush will show his alignment either way. So you are basically suggesting a policy nk on lurkers right? Cause you dont have specific targets. I dont know if I agree. Really? What indicates to you that he will? btw, I'm fully in favor of policy nk'ing lurkers. imo we should agree on 3 of them and have 2 houses shoot them respectively. Or maybe 2 with 3 shooting each? Hard to tell how much you need to kill them, 2 targets seems "safer" to result in something. Just try one out and see what happens. The specific distribution can be made in secret, dunno if that'd have an impact but i dont think it really matters to the thread who shoots who until after it's done (so we can see who didn't kill who), which might as well be claimed after. There's literally no downside to this. | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:07 Xatalos wrote: No need to waste extra KP on anyone. Just shoot until he's dead, then move on? Shouldn't the player die immediately (or soon) after receiving a fatal amount of KP? Why would you drag it out over multiple cycles? that only muddies the waters. | ||
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I'll be gracious and respond to it: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:15 Grackaroni wrote: ok 15 minutes past and nobody read my post. cya tomorrow guys | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:22 Xatalos wrote: Lord KP is instant and can be used at any time. oh ok | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:50 Grackaroni wrote: Koshi read town to me in his arguments with DI. (DI too) I'm willing to forgive s0Lstice's choosing chromatically over Di because he was obviously caught up in an EPEEN measuring contest with DI and I think judging from both Koshi and s0Lstice's reactions to DI, DI was being obnoxious and it made him act irrationally. (not choose DI out of spite, justify it to himself with the possible waste of house power for nothing) Acro I'm really not sure about, I'll look over him tomorrow because I actually am tired. As for Jrkirby. @clarity, how many of those inexperienced players made posts like that in the middle of the game and then left without really talking about any player with anyone? This guy seems to be in a QT with solstice. | ||
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On August 09 2013 18:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Dandel, you did play in Ego right? I hosted Ego | ||
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What I remember well about it is how I found all* the scum because I'm such a swag playa. yamato got dunked in the first half hour, l0l *sinani was kind of by association so i dunno if that really counts. | ||
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I just found it peculiar that grackamole talks about our exchanges in a way that suggests that he heard about them by solstice, he has the same kind of "bias" towards it, and not all of it got conveyed into the thread in the proportions it happened. It sounded like the retelling of information solstice would have given him, because the points grack uses to excuse sol are the kind of shit sol tried to excuse himself out of actually answering (to) me. Peculiar, peculiar. | ||
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Or are you saying you just kinda feel like he's town? | ||
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On August 09 2013 20:05 Clarity_nl wrote: Any thoughts on Oberyn dandel? I don't like how he plays. It feels like he's always trying to talk about things that are not relevant at the moment. Like, he keeps annoying me about sol while koshi is the topic, then when we finally talk about sol, the topic he liked so much, he suddenly goes on about acro instead. Not sure what that means for his alignment but it ain't feeling right. | ||
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On August 09 2013 21:44 Oberyn wrote: If you're going to say this, you have to list names. So you attack me for asking about sol, but you would be quite happy with sol. You attack me for poking at Acro, but you understand why he would be suspicious. And this means that my play doesn't "feel right"? In what way does moving forward the conversation targeted at people you view as likely scum make you dislike my play? If you can't even look at the signup-list and be able to tell who isn't posting, you aren't reading the thread. | ||
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On August 09 2013 21:52 Oberyn wrote: There is no reason to respond like this as town. I asked you for specific individuals that you believe should be shot. There are at least 10 people who could be classified as lurkers. They obviously aren't all mafia. Which ones are more likely to flip mafia? See, you do know who's a lurker and who's not. Wasn't that hard was it. | ||
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Obviously you can (and will) try to make it sound super pro town (durr), but I disagree with that interpretation. The fact that they are people I find scummy makes the action null for now. | ||
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On August 09 2013 21:55 Oberyn wrote: Are you trying to imitate Ace or something? Keep working on it. yeah sure buddy you sure showed me oh boy | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:21 Xatalos wrote: Is Oberyn really unfamiliar with DI's meta? Why would he even cast suspicion on him in the first place - much less without pushing that stance at all? No, but he sure would like to act like it. | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:29 Oberyn wrote: onegu expressed that he would prefer my vote to remain on sol. I wanted to see where the thread went after the discussion of sol died off and there was still a full 24 hours left in the day to explore new individuals. I replied that I wanted to pressure Acro and would likely return to sol. At this point, I'm undecided whether or not I will be returning to sol, dandel, or possibly yamato/iamp. When I poked yamato for activity, he said he would be on for a while tonight and assumed he would catch up in the thread. He has continued to be around, but not helpful, which is why he is one of my preferred lurker shot candidates (See dandel, that wasn't very hard was it? Your turn!) okay, shoot kush. | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:33 Vivax wrote: FT, I'm not sure what you use as reason for calling Acro scum. Do you think he's scum for caring about the content of his posts or do you want to kill him for roleplaying, seems like a mix of the both. Wanting people to stop posting bollocks is fine but assuming they're scum for playing around in their first posts seems like a stretch. Are you claiming that Acro is also scum for roleplaying or only for: This is what Acro said: To me it looks like he's asking for reasons for Oats townreads on the house members. You call it a soft-accuse, how do you draw the line? It's quite a bit beyond "first posts" by now and it's getting real fucking annoying. | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:33 Oberyn wrote: Just to be clear, does this mean that I'm maliciously trying to make you look bad as a potential mislynch or that I'm just casting suspicion on you for personal amusement? Just to be clear, have you, or have you not ever seen one of my towngames? | ||
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So why do you act like you didn't? | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:42 Oberyn wrote: If you're playing scummy, saying "hey guys look at my old games, I always play scummy" isn't a valid excuse. I'm not a huge meta fan either. If you're incapable of emulating your town play as scum, then you're not very good scum player. I'm not even playing scummy, you're just imagining that. Yes, I'm a bad scum player. That's what I keep telling people... | ||
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On August 09 2013 22:47 Oberyn wrote: Don't worry. I can give you some tips post game if you ask nicely. jrkirby hasn't set off any red flags yet in PMs, though similar to Acro, I question how they come to the both town conclusion so easily. In this case, I'd be more suspicious of Acro, rather than kirby due to experience. Kirby is going to find himself shot if he's not posting in the thread more though. how about no | ||
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If you don't want to listen to the 5000 arguments I made already, you may also look for an activity comparison between his town and non-town games. In all his town games, he is at least twice as active by this point of the game on post numbers alone, and here his activity is even skewed heavily since half his posts are merely him defending. | ||
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On August 10 2013 01:56 Koshi wrote: lol bullshit. I posted a lot in the Titanic game, but I didn't post a lot in the I swear 2 game in which I had 4 pages. I learned in the Titanic game that posting a lot is not really good for me as town. You can ask the people who were in there how it worked out. Also, in the titanic game my first day was just posting lists till it was lynchtime. XLIV gg | ||
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On August 10 2013 02:01 Koshi wrote: That game I had 3 pages of post till I got into a superheated discussion with Chroma on who to lynch. we have had a heated discussion and shit, which already bloated your filter and you still sittin at 2. | ||
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Nobody pressured you in sicilian, and you have 1 page. Taking away the posts due to my tunneling, you would have 1 page. | ||
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seeing as you say you have a townread on sol. | ||
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On August 10 2013 02:15 Koshi wrote: I tried, but you ignored my PM. So please. Going to search for more fake reasons to incriminate me? no i told you to take everything to the thread while you can post in it. same thing i told sol. | ||
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things seen in PMs: A single little meaningless question dat convincing. | ||
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On August 10 2013 02:18 Koshi wrote: I asked from some guidelines and your opinion on Chrom. Please oh share them with me in this thread because using PMs don't add in your filter......... its not because of the filter, retard, it's because I'm sick and tired of you and sol acting like you do more in PMs, which is false. | ||
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The nerve of kids these days. | ||
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Once the RNG gods told me, I realized that he's a decent lynch too. And since people are somehow against my plan of carpet-bombing everything in House Baratheon (and my secondary proposal; carpet-bombing House Tyrell is like to fare no better) I would propose lynching jrkirby. | ||
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On August 10 2013 03:00 Sharrant wrote: Are we going to do this again? When I have a scum read I'm confident enough in to share, you'll hear about. You can threaten all you want, but I don't care, you can't rush me. I bet when you said that in sc, you still got 4pooled (or 6pooled, depending on your preference) | ||
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On August 10 2013 03:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: I could lynch jrkirby if people are not willing to lynch who i have proposed. What do you think about my targets and what i said about them? dunno, like, somebody was gonna (have to) make a house list at some point, not really seeing how that means he's scum just because it's a list. | ||
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On August 10 2013 03:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Dandel talk to me about my lynch targets. Also what makes jrkirby the best lynch? because the gods said 19, obviously. | ||
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On August 11 2013 17:52 Clarity_nl wrote: Because he died in the nightpost. Unless you think a townrole vigi'd gumshoe after being aware that the lords were going to kp gumshoe? If I were a townrole with kp I'd ask my lord who they were gonna kp. If I were a lord AND a blue with kp I wouldn't waste my role on killing the guy who just took 6 houses (this is an assumption) worth of kp. I agree that iamp and xata have looked town, but please explain a scenario where all of you are town. why not? considering house kp is supposed to flip instantly, when you see the target very much not dead, I can see a townie shooting it. Also, I didn't run tonight because I wanted to check if koshi was able to pull his head out of whereever he put it and vote chrom. That is, I didn't vote chrom tonight after telling everybody else to. And if koshi didn't either he wouldn't be lordz. So he evidently did. Which means I am not for lynching either koshi or sol today. Anyways, I think it would be smartest to lynch into the houses where a townie already flipped. I suggest Ace for this. | ||
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On August 11 2013 18:33 Ace wrote: That makes no sense Dandel but go ahead and explain it to me. Got somebody else in your house that you think is scum? y'all expected rayn to die, so clearly y'all can't think he's scum. y'all elected risen, so clearly y'all can't think he's scum. And left is the ace. | ||
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On August 11 2013 18:38 Ace wrote: Ok even if you go with rayne + risen = Town. How are you left with me being Scum? Nothing in the OP suggests every house must have at least 1 scum, and we don't even know how many are in the game. You want to think about this a little harder? Not really, no. But you may point somebody out that's more likely to be scum than you, I'm listening. | ||
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On August 11 2013 18:46 Ace wrote: I've already stated I dont have any strong reads yet. @Oats: Explain how my reasoning is bad. Then go get some instead of defending yourself? maybe? | ||
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What good will it do you to understand my thought process? I'm already confirmed town. I'd like ta understand yers, but yer blates refusin meh. | ||
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On August 11 2013 18:57 Ace wrote: Oats you're going to have to go into detail and show why. So far I have seen nothing that suggests every house has to have Scum. If there is something that I don't know about point it out. DI where were you confirmed Town? And um yea, understanding your thought process is a pretty big deal. META META META long live meta | ||
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's boring but ey lynching scum is good I hear. | ||
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On August 12 2013 03:24 Acrofales wrote: I think the sky is green. Too bad neither of us have any evidence. what you did this game: 1) rolefish 2) roleplay so since you're only rolling, you're scum. You always rolefish as scum, it's ur META DONT DENY THE META META META LONG LIVE META | ||
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On August 12 2013 04:16 Xatalos wrote: Hmm. I don't entirely agree, but his filter is too chaotic to read to get anything very conclusive out of it. I'm left suspicious with Acro's first list post though. It was basically jrkirby & FT & Yamato (with little reasoning and none for Yamato). Scum often include one scum in their list posts to look like they're "not completely wrong". Considering that the list was weak anyways, I get the feeling he just put two easy mislynch lurkers there and one weak scum (or even 2 scum if jrkirby is scum, but that's less likely). That's the classic and easiest possible tactic for scum to look like they're contributing a bit. I've done and seen it done countless times. Thoughts? Yes Acro also softbusses team members. that's also META | ||
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On all parts. | ||
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It's like, magic and shit. zoom. I bet the scumteam is all "I b a wizzzard" all the time too bad they didn't manage to kill anybody. | ||
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On August 12 2013 05:11 Clarity_nl wrote: I asked about this earlier and the answer is: we don't know if it's factional or not. it was factional in Needlessly Big Game too, and that's the only HP game I remember happening. QED | ||
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the baby seal defense was. | ||
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On August 12 2013 12:14 Oberyn wrote: Dandel, could you please comment on this post. Additionally, why did you choose to disappear at the end of d1? No I won't Look for somebody else to softpush. Did you know I will disappear at the end of every day? It's called 6 AM. On August 12 2013 17:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Fucking vet shield. Agreed. That's actually why I told chrom to shoot the scum slot last night, so that this could be avoided. At that time I didn't know there was a list On which the hyperlurker wasn't even on. For no discernable reason. I blame the maker of the list. On August 12 2013 17:40 Xatalos wrote: Dunno. But don't you think he'd show at least some effort to look useful if he was scum? Whatever, I'm not against lynching/killing him, it's just that there are more pressing matters (Vivax/Snb/Kush). No, not particularily. The same argument is that he would read the thread if he was town. tl;dr: It's intentionally shit play, which means shoot him. tho i agree we need to shoot/lynch kush as well. | ||
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Alas, it does not. | ||
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tho that was mostly jay's doing iirc | ||
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When scum says Oats is being to dumb too be town, he's actually too dumb to be scum. Oats is an unending sea of dumb. Vast and beautiful. | ||
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On August 12 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote: </3 dandel hey i did say beautiful too | ||
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so beautiful and also vast but that's like calling a dude fat, not so nice to do that i hear. | ||
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Yes, stout, active and valiant players such as yamato. Truly, they have much cause to be insulted. | ||
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On August 13 2013 05:33 Chromatically wrote: Dandel can you explain why you thought/think Nacho was scum and should be shot above the other semi-lurkers? because he was perfectly able to play in other games (offsite) during d1, and couldn't have forgotten about the game since he voted n0. Yet he never bothered to post here. Which pretty much translates to him being a classic scum flaker. | ||
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On August 13 2013 07:13 Xatalos wrote: Going to sleep now but I have to add that I actually feel better about Acro now. I can definitely see him being town. This scumhunting competition felt way too townish to fake so easily. As a reminder, absolute priority should be to kill jrkirby. He's the scummiest lurker by far. Then Risen, Vivax and Kush should be looked at very closely. Without forgetting Ace, Acro and rayn of course. why risen over snb? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + lol i woke up BEFORE deadline for once | ||
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but people usually post less as scum, so ok, lets go with meta. | ||
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I'm going to do the unspeakable. I'md really gonna do it. Wait for it .... .. . RL REASONS | ||
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On August 14 2013 20:33 Koshi wrote: Before you condemn sol for being scum. You might want to explain to the thread why you have voted Chrom 3 times already. ? I have You going mad again? | ||
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I think so. | ||
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I PM'd chrom about it but yet no answer (he also hasnt posted so hes afk i guess) and i dunno if everybody else said so yet | ||
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On August 15 2013 00:50 Xatalos wrote: It's weird that you're not participating for once  I already won mine. | ||
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that's the only thing he's able to. when it came down to the measuring, his dick was limp and small, and he tried to hide it in shame. | ||
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On August 15 2013 00:55 Vivax wrote: Effort, pushing, involvement. You mention things that aren't very empiric, so to say. You don't show if I'm pushing scum agenda, you don't quote particular posts, you say it's not activity, but you don't tell how you measure the three attributes you think make me scum when they are usually correlated to activity. The case on me is bullshit, I'm town, and I have yet to see a case with a clear line of thought that doesn't use activity as argument. I invite you to make one based on the content of my posts, and I'll dunk it, and you afterwards if you fuck up. I don't see what you mean with contradictory statements from Risen. You posted that he was wrong about you and Dandel, afterwards you posted this: So I wonder now, why do you mention something that is supposed to make him scum when in the past it wasn't reason enough and you gave him a townread in spite of what you call a contradiction now. what posts? | ||
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On August 15 2013 03:07 Acrofales wrote: Risen: GAIS. I HAVE A CONNECTION CASE THAT MAKES ACRO SCUM Guys: But you're connecting him to an unflipped guy who is probably town Risen: HRMM, MAYBE. BUT LETS LYNCH HIM AND THEN FOLLOW THE CONNECTION BACKWARDS! Sounds like a good plan to me | ||
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tl;dr: null and useless, okay lynch. | ||
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On August 15 2013 03:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because i have a scumread on you, and you are possibly getting lynched today if you do not stop this bullshit. You having a townread on me is fine, you having a townread on me based on meta that does not hold water is not fine. I want to have a better read on you, i do read people based on how they interact with me, so could you now please my wish instead of being a dick. You have not yet learned how to read dicks I take it | ||
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On August 15 2013 03:19 Vivax wrote: Also, can anybody explain to me why we're not lynching johnnyscum today? too much scum, not enough lynches. | ||
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On August 15 2013 03:21 Risen wrote: Xatalos just scum slipped in PMs. ##unvote ##vote: Xatalos i allow you to explain feel honored. | ||
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On August 15 2013 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: dandel, i really <3 you :D wait obvious buddying? you're scum again aren't you? | ||
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On August 15 2013 03:24 Risen wrote: Which question? And as to the nature of the scumslip, Xatalos has been in PMs with me for a while now soft defending Shar. I don't really think anything of it and I'm trying to bring him around to seeing Shar as scum. Nothing truly sticks out, I think he's just trying to gain perspective on me. He then tells me in PM that Shar's claimed 2 PM ability is simply house PMs. House have 3 people. The 2 PM ability isn't house PMs or it would be 3. ggnore .... ... .... ... wat | ||
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I'm currently pondering on something similar in regards to the zombie. | ||
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On August 15 2013 03:37 Vivax wrote: What a nice person you are. Throw insults and then give him a townread, is that advancedz scumz tacticz? lol i do that all the time as town i may add. | ||
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On August 15 2013 03:59 Acrofales wrote: You are (far) more useless than usual. You scum, bro? you know, you could check MA META and find the answer out easily instead of softpushing me all the time. | ||
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cause I'm obviously town, obviously. | ||
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vivax is better lynch but not best johnnywup is best lynch | ||
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there's been time enough to extend that thusly by now. | ||
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On August 16 2013 02:18 strongandbig wrote: btw i was gonna be like "lynch dandelion instead of me because he's stopped giving a fuck and that's his scum meta". He has 6 pages of filter day 1, followed by 2 per cycle after that. Steep dropoff in activity. I still think that's a decent argument but it looks like the only scum games he's had since newbies where he didn't either replace in or replace out d1 were nuclear winter, where he did fit that pattern (only 2pp of filter per cycle, replaced out) and british empire, which was instant majority and so you can't compare filter lengths. That said I only saw one town game of his where he played like this (red team, 5pp of filter d1, 1pp d2 then lynched). Other than that I went through bastard mini (6pp d1, 5pp d2 then game ended), themed game (9pp of filter d1, then 12pp between d2 and d3), and ptp4 (9pp d1, 7pp d2, then got dayvigged d3) all of which show a much smaller dropoff in activity than this game. so he's matched this rule in 1/1 scum games that i looked at and only 1/4 town games, odds are pretty good here but it's not the slam-dunk numbers argument that i think it would be if his scum games had a larger sample size. appreciate the effort but given that this game has silent nights, it shouldn't be a surprise that the numbers are slightly smaller. themed also doesn't really count cuz I HAD to spam cuz of my role. As it got later I had to spam even more because less people were around to quote me. Still dunno how I'm a lurker when I have 10 pages of filter in the first place. Just cause I'm busy on some days? lel | ||
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On August 16 2013 03:43 Xatalos wrote: Hmmmm. You do have an interesting theory about him being SK. It's lacking though for reasons you can't know. What if i tell you i know them? | ||
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hey how is your stance on the lord of a house yolo'ing anything lately? still firmly against it i hear? | ||
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you are above your own pretenses. | ||
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On August 16 2013 04:14 s0Lstice wrote: get some aloe why is johnny the best lynch in your opinion, or are you waiting on Acro to go over again why he is so town? no i've been waiting for johnny to do something town. to no avail | ||
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On August 16 2013 05:17 Xatalos wrote: Also LOL if he flips scum and both yamato and him gave up at the sight of pressure. If this trend keeps up, we should just keeps pressuring different people pressuring people to get a read on them? what a groundbreaking suggestion | ||
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On August 16 2013 05:21 Clarity_nl wrote: Yeah the claim doesn't actually change anything.... Calling people who play mafia tryhards is also pretty silly. Kinda torn.. torn between what? he clearly needs rope survivor claim with no given option on who would be scum instead of him? yea, no. | ||
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On August 16 2013 05:23 Xatalos wrote: I'm maybe slightly leaning on Survivor too. But.... Still. He hasn't played townish in any fashion this game. Wouldn't he at least try a bit (maybe not enough to get NK'd) as Survivor? as survivor he'd try to survive right about now. instead of claiming and fucking off. | ||
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On August 16 2013 05:25 Clarity_nl wrote: it's a jailer claim though. Obviously he could just be a goon who knows who scum roleblocked... but if he's a jailer scum will have to roleblock or kill him, no? The fact that he gives us no scumreads and just kinda gives up makes sense if he is survivor, not so much if he is scum. he didn't even say who was roleblocked by who... just another thing that makes it a good lynch. I guess we'll see what he flips. | ||
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On August 16 2013 05:44 Clarity_nl wrote: I'm trying to figure out if lynching vivax is the correct play. Xata you say you agree he's more likely survivor jailer than scum, right? Let's say he's 100% survivor jailer, should we lynch him? as confirmed not-town, it would be his place to answer why we shouldn't lynch him. he didn't and doesn't it's ez, really. | ||
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On August 16 2013 05:50 Clarity_nl wrote: Town win condition is to kill all scum, yes? Scum win condition is to kill people till they outnumber everyone else. How does lynching a survivor help town win condition? lol i just checked and according to the OP, town needs to eliminate all "non-town" lol lol lol | ||
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1) no survivors in the game 2) bastard modding + Show Spoiler + 1) is more likely. | ||
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On August 16 2013 05:58 Clarity_nl wrote: Makes it much more likely that vivax is a traitor rather than survivor. I can't say I've seen a game where a survivor exists yet the town goal is to eliminate all non-town. Nice job dandel, but to quote palmar (try to read in an icelandic accent) "If you read the OP you are a noooowbie" better than being an idiot AYAYAYAY | ||
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you're just jelly I'm able to read the OP in contrast to... well everybody else in this game it seems #sweg | ||
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On August 16 2013 06:04 s0Lstice wrote: I'm so proud of dandel right now. Shes growing up so fast. maybe you'll stop flaming people now + Show Spoiler + geddit? | ||
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In all seriousness. | ||
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On August 16 2013 07:22 Risen wrote: Xata seems so scummy to me and I don't know why. Can't tell whether it's anger at him for FoSing me, residual hang on from my first case, or something else. His tone seems so different going from PMland to here. I kind of want to be lynched tomorrow so my opinions on people will hold more weight, but I think they'd just get written off as useless b/c I've been quite erratic this game. Would be easy for scum to simply say he didn't have a real case look over here. Kind of what happened in SSB with me. I was super erratic and when I finally consolidated on things scum simply painted me as being crazy. Gotta learn how to fix this in future games. see that's the problem me neither also i'm pretty sure nobody is going to look at your posts twice after you die (people don't even do that with actually useful people), so stop that premature martyring plz. | ||
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On August 16 2013 09:01 Acrofales wrote: Are you scum? Like. I can name one thing which makes DI con-fucking-firmed town regardless of how he trolls and how lazy he is. It was a kinda big thing that happened. No meta required. Dandel Ion And yeah, Risen, I am not afraid of saying that, because unless all of scum had their brains scooped out and replaced with jello, they already have him marked as confirmed town. suck it, softboy | ||
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I'm just not always here not the same thing | ||
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not lazier than usually | ||
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On August 16 2013 09:04 Acrofales wrote: To be fair, if Vivax flips some kinda 3rd party, you're back to being scum. meh i still saved people hours of useless filter waddling more protown than you've ever been | ||
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i read it | ||
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dunno why you didn't listen | ||
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On August 16 2013 09:59 Grackaroni wrote: I pushed you while I was reading the thread, I skimmed your filter and saw no real thought process and lots of useless spam, and added with Iamp's read on you decided you were someone who had a good chance of flipping scum. so you didn't even read the thread before pushing, gotcha. | ||
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On August 16 2013 09:58 Mocsta wrote: From mafia wiki A Survivor is a lone player whose goal is to live until any other faction achieves their Win Condition, be it Town or scum. If the Survivor dies, it loses. Survivors are not known for getting any kind of compensation to help them achieve their Win Condition. ....... In theory vivax if survivor can win with town... ....... I might be able to buy the survivor claim... But the addition of jk is too hard to swallow I suspect he will flip scum rb. ........... Aside from that... Johnnywup martyr post stink so bad. He says he is demotivated, and I would like to know why. He's received fuck all pressure and when I ask him to justify his reads. He ignores me. I'm still willing to consider bad town because of the guy below Grackeroni..... This guys entry into the day is suspect and the posts stink. He's coming in to throw shit at people. I suggest lord no be taken off kush and focus fired on this guy... Or if u must kill kush. Then prioritize this guy over johnny ..... read the op | ||
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On August 16 2013 10:08 Grackaroni wrote: He started off with a town read on you d1, then moved you down to null for your posts the 2nd day also pointing out your lack of interest in lynches, and like I said, Your content in posts seems to decrease each day cycle. how do you know that if you don't even read the thread. | ||
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no other way to put it | ||
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I call him out for not reading the thread: "I actually read the thread" wat do | ||
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like can we just shoot him? | ||
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On August 16 2013 10:25 Grackaroni wrote: Honestly you are ridiculous, I've already told you many times that I made that post WHILE READING THE THREAD. (which consisted of about 20 pages for me to read) I will bold again in caps for emphasis. I MADE THAT POST WHILE READING THE THREAD Do I need to do it again? I did not get to the post where you say that town must eliminate all anti-town elements before posting my thoughts on you. Obviously if I'm in the process of reading the thread, eventually I will have read the thread. What is so difficult for you? the difficult part is reconciling your actions with a townie mindset, currently. thanks for asking | ||
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On August 16 2013 10:25 kushm4sta wrote: Dandel you are wrong like virtually always LOL ^ confirmed scum for bragging about being "right" | ||
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also the wall of text was terrible, but it's mainly the not-being-modkilled part. discuss. | ||
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On August 17 2013 20:12 Clarity_nl wrote: Is it really that hard for you to not only post your conclusion, but also your thought process? yes but i'll try: flipped scum in sharrant's house: 0 flipped scum in mocsta's house: 1 | ||
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behold: snb is scum because he didn't get modkilled acro is scum because he didn't get shot yet ( he even got shot early in ptp4 and he played like shit there, here he's been lord for 4 cycles) both being scum also explains why snb didn't act like a complete retard about acro yet, which he "always" does (a very buttwounded man he is) sharrant and mocsta are both town then because another player in their house is scum then. my money'd be on moc being non-selfaware miller. last scum is in my house after that probably. wifom is almost as good as meta. all hail wifom | ||
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moc is not full hp either, so he should be in lord kp range. | ||
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On August 17 2013 21:06 Clarity_nl wrote: This is dumb. I'm a townie. If I had posted a pm meant for snb in thread instead, I contact the hosts and go "fuck sorry should I edit it out?" hosts reply "yeah, and don't do it again" and I do. Why is that different depending on alignment? Why is it less likely for scum to get modkilled? To me it makes sense for neither alignment to get modkilled. Like, snb made the mistake and sent me a pm going "fuck", I told him "just edit it out and tell the hosts, I can vouch for the fact that it was a mistake pm and you're not being malicious", which I did tell the hosts, even though snb waited for hosts to tell him to edit it out. Please comment on my rayn case DI. and then there was the not voting part. | ||
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On August 17 2013 21:16 Xatalos wrote: I'm not really willing to believe that Clarity is scum. If he is, he deserves a Mafia MVP of the year or something. If he could fake his PM interactions with me so well as scum, he'd have been WAY more helpful than any actual townie so far for me (maybe contending with iamperfection). I just can't believe it. If he is, I'm going to salute him in postgame as the best liar I have ever known. Town would also be pretty screwed with everything he (and scum with him) would know. DI, what do you think of rayn's recent posting? Why are you proposing snb when we have a redcheck AND a good town player using weak and inconsistent logic? snb doesn't really make sense at all for today. Let's see what we have here. The rayn I know is extremely focused on finding scum and pushing his opinions to the end of time. This game he has: 1) bluehunted 2) spammed 3) scumhunted with weak reasoning 4) stepped out of the heated discussion because he "didn't need to participate" several times now I'm starting to think rayn might actually be a good lynch for today. Sharrant is dead anyway tomorrow if he's a blue and that would prove Mocsta town or scum. yeah dunno i could see both as town tbh, seeing as clarity is not reading the thread properly if he pushed me more than softly i'd be getting pissed too atm, so i can't fault rayn for that. | ||
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On August 17 2013 21:27 Xatalos wrote: Hmmmm. Do you have other reasoning for snb besides WIFOM? What do you think of Mocsta? yeah that snb only does shit when he's about to get lynched. and even that only after he defends himself for years. mocsta honestly seems townie enough for me, but a red check is a red check. that's why i'd prefer shooting him over lynching him, if we have to. | ||
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lynch or shoot, whatever, idc. | ||
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On August 17 2013 22:16 Mocsta wrote: All cos I wouldn't give u hp check info lol Why is that alignment indicative again? U asked me to be shot yeah cause you have this thing called a red check | ||
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On August 17 2013 22:41 Acrofales wrote: Let me think on this. Why is Rayn not in your list? Also, how is Mocsta below full HP? I don't know of any lords shooting him? N1, all lords allegedly shot gumshoe. If someone didn't, they didn't claim. N2, no shots went to Mocsta insofar as I know. N3, only Sharrant claimed to shoot someone other than Kush/jwup and he shot Koshi. So who shot jrkirby/Mocsta? snb more scum can still lynch rayn tomorrow if need be. | ||
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On August 17 2013 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: There seems to be a big amount of information Clarity and Xatalos know that others don't.. i have it lel kool kids klub no unkool kids welcome | ||
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On August 17 2013 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why would mafia sacrifice roleblocker over like... any role? Why not let SnB get lynched and lynch Vivax instead? maybe the survivor claim was actually a terrible and horribly thought out attempt at staying alive who knows | ||
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Tell me a reason outside that why snb is not a good lynch. | ||
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i know many things | ||
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i no understand | ||
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not exactly sure | ||
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100% copy-pasted | ||
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it's like kindergarten, seriously | ||
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it's a joke. | ||
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if that doesn't happen, I'll suggest we withhold the lord kp tonight. cuz that's what we would've used. | ||
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On August 18 2013 01:08 strongandbig wrote: That doesn't work cause scum might lie about The Lord KP. And I put too much effort into not getting lunched for this game to end in a draw. words can't express how little i care about that | ||
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On August 18 2013 01:15 Clarity_nl wrote: Anyone wanna go play some pool instead of play mafia or something? Drinks are on me sure i'll be there soon, it's just a 10 hour drive | ||
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On August 18 2013 02:34 Clarity_nl wrote: I dunno how bussing a scum teammate for town cred and then faking a redcheck would be considered "award winning scumplay" Acro is seriously overthinking this. that +lurking hardcore like srsly | ||
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On August 18 2013 03:07 Xatalos wrote: Why a draw? That would be very..... anti-climatic, to say the least. At most some sort of punishment for town IMO. yes on both accounts, but it's still better than nothing. | ||
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sharrant is town, acro is scum. | ||
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On August 18 2013 03:19 Koshi wrote: How much HP do they have or am I not allowed to know again -_-? exactly you're learning, at least | ||
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On August 18 2013 03:23 Koshi wrote: Can you at least tell us why? OR PM me! why? it should generally be fairly obvious and the exact numbers dont help us nuffin | ||
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On August 18 2013 03:27 Acrofales wrote: @Dandel Ion: riddle me this. Why would I, as scum, come up with a plan that confirms Sharrant as town, when everybody was getting ready to lynch him? why, for towncred obviously | ||
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On August 18 2013 03:33 Koshi wrote: DI I VOTED YOU LORD. TELL ME SOMETHING!!!!!!!!! Or allow me going afk. and be sad. ask better questions then. "acro is full" "sharrant is almost dead" there, happy now? | ||
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On August 18 2013 03:33 Acrofales wrote: Because I need more of that, when I am about the least likely person in the game to get lynched. so why is scum not killing you then? | ||
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On August 18 2013 03:46 Acrofales wrote: Ask THEM. Presumably they're too busy trying to kill cops and making big plays by shooting Clarity. or there's a simple answer. if you're town you should know it. but you'd rather ignore it, huh | ||
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On August 18 2013 03:50 Acrofales wrote: Lol. You failed at logic there. Your simple answer is "I'm scum", but because I am actually town, I can clearly not know I'm scum, because I'm not. Herpaderpa. no, there's a simple answer if you were town too. if you are town, it shouldn't be hard to determine it, aye? | ||
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![[image loading]](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ZEs_gcamX9w/T5lvtwcONDI/AAAAAAAAU3k/z4K65O-TqzY/s400/resurrectiondionysiou.jpg) I am unsure what this means. | ||
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dunno how many hits should he have taken by now? | ||
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I'm just not going to use an advantage gained by cheating. | ||
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acro or rayn or something | ||
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shoot rayn then whatever not like it has anything to do with me | ||
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On August 18 2013 06:02 Xatalos wrote: I miss being a Lord. It feels so powerless and stupid without that status. And Grackaroni, where have you been all this time? Has he even PM'd people? no didn't somebody say he's gonna sick PM people and totes confirm himself town? not happening so far, cuz | ||
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On August 18 2013 19:30 Xatalos wrote: LOL. Now that I think about it, Onegu had a pretty similar "townslip" in NWM. Basically someone posted that there had been big topics of discussion for that day and listed a couple of players. Onegu replied with "Me too". Then someone said "I had some doubts about Onegu, but this post forces me to believe he's town." I get the same feeling from that seal comment for some reason :D i dont get it | ||
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i read what i missed but i dont see any reason for it. except if you count risen puking into the thread a reason, i guess. | ||
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failing that, I'd rather lynch johnny, tho i'm not crazy about it. | ||
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##unvote ##vote johnnywup | ||
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But nobody did. I was like the only one to even scumhunt n0, l0l but at least I have conclusively proven that dandel >>>>>>>> solstice, that's the only important thing. | ||
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On August 20 2013 18:07 Xatalos wrote: Haha... Well, sorry for insulting you on many occasions. I got so involved in this game that my emotions took over too much with you. Also at least you were right about rayn in your scumreads  We have a saying around here, basically "even a blind chicken finds a bit of grain sometimes" | ||
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People just refuse to do it. | ||
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I'll remind you that his modkill made the votes from town 3-2 scum to 2-2, essentially fucking any chance to ever lynch scum. | ||
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1) has to cheat to be useful in any way 2) fails even at cheating 3) game lost | ||
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the splitting of players into houses means that even more people need to be not-retarded as opposed to "normal" games where only some players need to be not-retarded for it to work. I probably wouldn't/won't play this kind of game again because it's less fun than a regular setup as a townie, and I don't give a shit how interesting it is for mafia. | ||
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imo it's a general problem. | ||
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it is known. | ||
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