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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 20:32:23
September 25 2012 05:11 GMT
#1
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Please read the entire thread before signing up. Thank you.


* Hapahauli will be co-hosting this game. Please ensure you send all night actions to both him/her and myself.

*There are no coaches in this game.

GSL Open Mini Mafia II

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herpa derpa derpa



Introduction:

Mafia is an educated guessing game of epic proportions. The objective of the game is to lynch or kill all mafia members before they outnumber the rest of the town. It's much like a game of poker because mafia members are also part of the town during the day and may manipulate the vote to their liking. If the mafia at any time outnumber or equal the townspeople, they win. The town's goal is to lynch all the members of the mafia.

The game is typically very active, so the thread will get big quickly. However, it is essential to read the thread to play the game. If you do not have the time or patience to read the whole thread, do not play. I will not compensate for ignorance.


Rules:

Cheating:
Cheating includes (but is not limited to):
1. Posting after death. You may have one polite goodbye post, but it may not contain any potentially game-changing information.
2. Ruining the game by doing something like hand out your mafia's member list to the town.
3. Logging on to someone else's account to get their role or looking over someone's shoulder to get their role.
4. Comparing role PM times to determine roles.
5. Posting screenshots of your inbox.
6. Posting or sharing any PM you receive from a host.
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
8. Signing up more than once using smurf accounts.
9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits.
10. Sharing accounts with other players unless cleared by the host in advance. Otherwise, only you may post on your account.
Cheating is not tolerated here. The punishment will be severe.

Posting:

Mod Font:
This is mod font. It is reserved for moderators. Please do not use it.

Rules specific to this game are also shown in blue text in this thread.


Question Font:
This is question font. Use it to ask the moderators questions about the rules. Please do us a favor and read the rules before you ask anything.

Activity:
You must post in this thread once per 36 hours while you are alive. If you fail to follow activity rules, you will be inactivity modkilled.

Off-Topic:
Try to stay on-topic while playing

Smurfs:
Talk to me ahead of time via PM or something. Smurfs are fine.

Hydras:
I'm fine with 1 hydra, maybe 2, tops. The two of you should contact me first though cause sometimes hydraing goes poorly. If we don't have enough signups you'll have to split into regular players.

Spam:
Try not to spam. If it happens, it happens. Sometimes you gotta double post, etc. When possible, though, try to avoid spamming the thread, as this makes the thread illegible. If I think you're spamming I'll tell you to stop, and then you'll stop. Not stopping is strictly prohibited.

Editing:
Editing is not allowed for any reason. Editing is not allowed. You get one (1) warning for editing. After that, you will be modkilled. The integrity of the game rests on not editing posts. If you'd like to modify an opinion or fix a typo, reply to your post with a quote and use "EBWOP" to edit by way of post.

Inappropriate posts:
If you want to post something insulting or inappropriate and know the TL mods would have a problem with it elsewhere, don't post it here. If you do, a host will warn you or modkill you and request that you be banned from future games. The hosts have the final say on what is inappropriate. If you do not like how someone is talking to you, please PM a host, Flamewheel, or Mig before involving the TL staff. If you are unsatisfied with how the situation is resolved, then you can appeal to the TL staff normally. Stuff like "this argument is dumb because XYZ" is fine. Stuff like "you are doing ABC, which is dumb" or "you're dumb if you do ABC" is mostly fine. Stuff like "you're dumb. lolooloooo" is not fine. I'm very verbal about people getting out of line, so if you cross the line I will let you know.

Reporting posts:
The report button is a nice feature for regular TL, but not for this forum. We prefer to deal with things in house if possible to avoid confusion among the TL staff. If you have a problem with how someone is posting, talk to the host, co-host, Flamewheel, or Mig before using your report button. Please do not use your report button for anything other than inappropriate posts which you feel are not being dealt with adequately.

Ban discussions:
Please wait until this game is over to talk about modkills and bans resulting from this game.

Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. If you're not playing to win I will modkill you. But this won't be a problem, because if you don't want to win you can just not sign up k?

This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game :D

You have been warned! bwahahaha



Voting rules:

1. Voting is done in the game thread. Do not PM me your vote.
2. Please vote in the following format: ##Vote DoYouHas. Votes not done in the correct fashion will not be counted. I will update vote counts whenever I get the chance.
3. No conditional voting.
4. You may vote for yourself. You may not vote for anyone dead or outside the game.
4.5. You can vote for a no-lynch if you want to.
5. This game follows an instant simple majority lynch. The instant a player has the majority of votes on him, the day ends early, and all posting stops until the night post goes up. Please by polite and try not to post after the day ends (via majority or via deadline) out of courtesy until the night begins. So if there are 8 players you need 5 to lynch, if there are 7 players you need 4 to lynch.
6. Voting by the end of the natural day cycle is mandatory. If the day ends early, it's okay to not have voted.
7. If there is no majority at the end of the cycle, you baddies just no-lynched!
8. Once a majority has been reached, please do not post until the night-post.


Signups:


Eligibility
Anyone may sign up for this game, even if they are a noob.

Invites
There are no invites this game. Signups are open to all!



Game-specific rules:

Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please PM Flamewheel or post in the Ban List, and also type /sitout in the thread here.

Replacements
I love replacements, but I hope never to use them. There are 5 replacement slots, so sign up if you're interested. Replacements will be made up until D3. You're encouraged to find your own replacement.

Clues:
There are no clues.

PMs
PMs are not allowed in this game.

Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 24 hour night/72+ hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the day end will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Also, try not to post after the day ends (via majority or via deadline) out of courtesy until the night begins. Currently the deadline is 21:00 GMT (+00:00), but that is subject to change. Actions/votes will be accepted up to and including the posted time, but not after. If the day ends early, the night will last for 24 hours, and the next day will begin early, but still have the same deadline.

Example: If D1 ends at 15:00 GMT (+00:00), N1 is 24 hours, 0from 15:00 GMT (+00:00) to the next day at 15:00 GMT (+00:00). D2 will start at 15:00 GMT (+00:00) and will run for 78 hours, ending just over 3 days later at 21:00 GMT (+00:00). Basically, extra time (up to 24 hours) from an early lynch is rolled into the start of the following day.



Credits:
Thanks to anyone who has ever hosted a game. This list grows ever longer. Special thanks to iGrok and Incognito for going over this setup with me. Also thanks to Probulous since I stole this OP from him and modified it to my nefarious needs. Also also thanks to Hapahauli for co-hosting.

If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I might give you candy.

I am open to questions any time. If something doesn't make sense, please ask, either in-thread for via PM.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
September 25 2012 05:11 GMT
#2


Roles and Setup information


This is a semi-open setup. There are four possible setups, and which setup is chosen will be RNGed. The chosen setup is not revealed, but it should be deducable as the game goes on.


Macro Players


Progamer (Vanilla Townie): You're one of the best players of your era. You've fought your way here, to the Round of 9, in the GSL Open! Your favorite things are Fast Expands and long walks on the beach. You are a VT. Find and destroy the cheesers.

NesTea (Parity Cop): Each night you can use your macro skills to send overlords to scout someone and see who they are. However, the metagame is young so you can't really tell what's going on without a comparison point! Each night you target someone, and you're told if the alignment of your target is the same or different as your previous target. Your N1 check doesn't return anything, but is neccessary for your N2 check to work. You can't check yourself. Find and destroy the cheesers.

HopeTorture (Doctor): You're a huge nerd baller and are here to crush any Protoss hope of winning the GSL. Because Terran is OP, you can use your Terran macro skills each night to help a friend. Remember, Planetary Fortresses actually just don't die. Each night, you can save someone from the nightkill. You can't protect the same player twice in a row. You can't save yourself. Find and destroy the cheesers.

BoxeR (Named VT): You are a blue with no powers. Still, you are the legendary BoxeR, so you can of course roleclaim. However, this is GSL Open Season 1, and so you don't know if you're Lim Yo Hwan or Lee Jung Hoon. There might both be in this game, or it might be just you and HopeTorture, or you and NesTea. Find and destroy the cheesers.

Town Win Condition - The town wins when there are no mafia left in the game or nothing can prevent that from happening.


Cheesers


Cheeser (Mafia Goon): You are scum. You have no special powers. You win when scum outnumbers town or nothing can prevent that.

BitByBitPrime.WE (Mafia RB): You are scum. Each night, you can marine/scv all-in a player to RB him. You can RB and send in the factional KP in the same night if you are the last scum. The target, even if he is a VT, is notified of being roleblocked. You win when scum outnumbers town or nothing can prevent that.

Mafia Win condition - The mafia wins when there are no remaining townies or nothing can prevent that from happening.


Possible Setups

A) 1 Cheeser, 1 BitByBitPrime.WE, 1 HopeTorture, 1 NesTea, 5 Progamers
B) 2 Cheesers, 1 BoxeR, 1 NesTea, 5 Progamers
C) 2 Cheesers, 1 BoxeR, 1 HopeTorture, 5 Progamers
D) 1 Cheeser, 1 BitByBitPrime.WE, 2 BoxeRs, 5 Progamers


Each setup is equally likely. Who gets what role will be RNGed.



Sample PMs:

Progamer
BoxeR
HopeTorture
NesTea
Cheeser, your QT: _____
BitbyBit.PrimeWE, your QT: _____
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-06 02:13:37
September 25 2012 05:12 GMT
#3
Player List
1) ShiaoPi (filter)
2) Bluelightz (filter)
3) iamperfection (filter)
4) austinmcc (filter) HopeTorture shot n1
5) strongandbig (filter) Progamer lynched d2
6) Ottoxlol (filter) Progamer shot n3
7) thrawn2112 (filter) Progamer lynched d1
8) Sinensis (filter) replaced by kushm4sta (filter) Cheeser lynched d3
9) Phagga (filter) replaced by Artanis[Xp] (filter) BoxeR shot N2

Replacement List
1)
2)
3)

2 of 7 Progamers Remaining
1 of 2 Cheesers Remaining

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Herpa Derpa Derpa
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
September 25 2012 05:12 GMT
#4
We are still open for signups-- we need one more player. Remember, it's instant majority lynch and the days are slightly longer than normal.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
September 25 2012 06:02 GMT
#5
Sign up for this game!
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 25 2012 06:05 GMT
#6
the nestea role looks pretty damn good
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 06:17:04
September 25 2012 06:13 GMT
#7
NesTea is like a slightly nerfed version of a regular cop. If your scumhunting is good, he's just as strong as a normal cop. Also if one of your targets flip that gives you a the strength of a regular cop, but of course you have less info.

Some scenarios:


+ Show Spoiler +

Here's an example of NesTea in action:
D1 Town lynches Coag, a townie.
N1 NesTea checks Incognito, and gets no result yet. DoYouHas, the Doctor, dies.
D2 Town lynches Incognito, and he flips scum.
N2 NesTea checks Qatol, and gets "different"-- this means that Qatol is a townie. Marvellosity, a townie, dies.
D3 Town wants to lynch Qatol, but NesTea roleclaims, saving him. Town lynches Velinath, the final scum player!

So you can see in some circumstances he's basically as good as a regular DT. Sometimes, though, he's worse.
D1 town lynches Coag, a townie.
N1 NesTea checks Incognito, and gets no result yet. DoYouHas, the Doctor, dies.
D2 Town lynches Zona, who flips town.
N2 NesTea checks Qatol, and gets "different". Marvellosity, a townie, dies.
D3 Town wants to lynch Qatol, and it's LYLO. NesTea knows that Qatol and Incog are different alignments, so one of them must be scum. He has to rely on his own skills to put this info to good use.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 25 2012 06:19 GMT
#8
yeah, but in other games with cops there are godfathers, framers, and millers to worry about
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
September 25 2012 06:22 GMT
#9
Not in other 9-player games that may include a roleblocker. Typical 9-player setup is something like:
1 cop, 1 doctor, 5 townies, 1 goon, 1 mafia RB

with some small variance. This aint no 13-player mini or 25-player normal mafia with all kinds of crazy roles flying around. GSL keeps it clean, like my back after a nice hot steamy soapy shower after a long day
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
September 25 2012 06:29 GMT
#10
/in
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25558 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-25 06:39:02
September 25 2012 06:31 GMT
#11
The game is starting in 14.5 hours at Tuesday, Sep 25 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) aka 21:00 GMT (+00:00). notification PMs are being sent out now-- role PMs will be sent out as the game starts.

If anyone wants to sign up as a replacement, please let me know (though hopefully you won't be needed).

If anyone wants to observe, shoot me or Hapahauli a PM and we'll send you the QT.


When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
September 25 2012 13:34 GMT
#12
um this might be a stupid question but how does the named vt work?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
September 25 2012 14:22 GMT
#13
On September 25 2012 22:34 iamperfection wrote:
um this might be a stupid question but how does the named vt work?


If I understand it correctly it's just a Vanilla Townie role with blue color and special name. No powers.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 25 2012 15:13 GMT
#14
basically if you get boxer then you know setup a is impossible
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Bluelightz
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Indonesia2463 Posts
September 25 2012 15:46 GMT
#15
I can only give one fuck about this game:

FUCK THE 4 AM DEADLINE ;____;
Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, Radiation Is Good Because Nuclear bombs go BOOM | I love TL Mafia! ♥ http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 ♥| Mvp is most boss
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 25 2012 15:49 GMT
#16
On September 26 2012 00:46 Bluelightz wrote:
I can only give one fuck about this game:

FUCK THE 4 AM DEADLINE ;____;


Hahahaha :D It's 5 AM for me
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
September 25 2012 15:57 GMT
#17
It's 11pm here, which is generally nice. However, I might not be around at game start tonight (bad few last nights with kids crying and stuff, need sleep urgently), so I probably won't get active until around 9 hours into the game.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
September 25 2012 16:00 GMT
#18
On September 26 2012 00:57 phagga wrote:
It's 11pm here, which is generally nice. However, I might not be around at game start tonight (bad few last nights with kids crying and stuff, need sleep urgently), so I probably won't get active until around 9 hours into the game.


obviously scum! Already piling up excuses for lack of activity!!!!!
naah just kidding!
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
September 25 2012 16:00 GMT
#19
4pm for me, same time as the deadline for the newbie i'm cohosting

i will be a busy boy
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
September 25 2012 16:04 GMT
#20
On September 26 2012 01:00 ShiaoPi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2012 00:57 phagga wrote:
It's 11pm here, which is generally nice. However, I might not be around at game start tonight (bad few last nights with kids crying and stuff, need sleep urgently), so I probably won't get active until around 9 hours into the game.


obviously scum! Already piling up excuses for lack of activity!!!!!
naah just kidding!

Damn, I'm already busted!
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
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PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
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