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Also, something I'd like to point out
1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus
There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining.
We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8)
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On March 24 2011 11:51 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 11:40 tnkted wrote:On March 24 2011 11:37 chaoser wrote:
His three reasons are in-jokes tnkted, GM didn't do so well last game, that's all.
1. I'm a noobie. This means that i am absolutely not a threat to anyone, and am therefore a prime target for early mafia kills. I could use the human shields!
Actually noobies usually don't get NKed till late game cause mafia obviously wants to kill all the vets. Well, forgive my inexperience, but doesn't the very fact that the vets are such juicy targets make killing them seem very suspicious? If you have a vet thats doing some dangerous theorizing, wouldn't killing him be exactly the wrong thing to do as mafia? it would validate his theory. Instead, the smart move for that mafia would be to kill a noob or some other target. Well generally day 1/2 the vets haven't really collected enough data and maybe they'll push someone who's town. Just cause they're vet doesn't mean they're 100% right. It's easy to get out from a vet's analysis if it's early, but it's much harder if it's later on since more things will have happened for them to make a more robust argument. I dunno, I usually never see newbies get killed early on, it's either mid tier players, high tier players, or blue snipes. @Jackal You like to tunnel...A LOT. Because of that you almost lost town the game in a recent mafia cause you pushed for pandain's lynch so hard that if there wasn't a vigi, mafia would have 100% won. I don't know if I trust you as mayor deciding our first lynch as well as a figurehead of sorts for town. While town voting day 1 is a crap shoot, leaving it in your hands might not necessarily be any better. This is because I noticed you didn't say you would say who you were going to lynch first to town before lynching. At least if it comes down to a town vote everyone can see where the lynch is going. If you just lynch without telling anyone, that'd be very bad. Will you be telegraphing your lynch target first or will you just be shooting the guy? I don't really care for cowboy mayors.
I've ben accused of tunneling and I've been called scum for not tunneling.
Ya I admit that the Pandain incident was a bad move on my part but he also pushed a lynch that made no sense at the time. So I was convinced in my own mind he was scum. I mean why would town do that? Ya I was wrong.
I could have done the same against GM in XXXVII but I didn't. I learned from my previous mistake.
Of course I will listen to towns input and I will share my thoughts on who I would like to lynch first I will ask for feed back. That doesn't mean I'll change my mind but there won't be any surprises.
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oh wait, that's the same odds. 4:2 in the item game for town and 16:8 in the regular game when not counting the item game people.
That being said, I still don't think it's a very good idea to vote for people involved in the item game, that's such a small group to have to worry about giving mayor to the 1 mafia there.
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On March 24 2011 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +There are currently 30 players remaining.
There are currently 16 Townies remaining.
There are currently 4 Police remaining.
There are currently 6 Mafia remaining.
There are currently 4 Third party remaining. Ok this is pretty simple. Barring extremes, a person in the police can claim freely and be elected mayor. Either mafia or third party would have to trade their entire squad to stop the police from doing this. Agree to this or not, it basically gives us a townie with a pre-set townie circle as mayor. So if you are a green townie it would be in your best interest to drop out of the race if this is to gain momentum. The extremes of course would be the game setup for-seeing this and giving scum and third party methods to circumvent this. 1) Infiltration. I have a really strong gut feeling that certain team members will have alternate win conditions. So police should decide amongst them who would be the best mayor and most likely town affiliated person. 2) ??? It's insane mafia, so this could backfire, but it beats me how. Any suggestions or criticisms are NECESSARY, because what the fuck do I know. Insane #1 raped me.
This actualy seems decent but with all the odd abilities out there I dont think its a good idea, the police circle is going to benefit from using their powers, and its likely that there is roleblocker of some sort amidst the anti town forces, I dont know what powers the blue team is likely to have, but is it worth risking them for a little added protection? That should be their call when they see their powers day 1, I'm unconfortable with having a powerful blue role claim tbh, becuase if someone fakeclaims then a real blue (or more) has to oust himself to keep the anti town (ok fuck this from this point on scum = anti-town and mafia = mafia) forces from being elected.
I don't support this plan although it is well thought out.
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On March 24 2011 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +There are currently 30 players remaining.
There are currently 16 Townies remaining.
There are currently 4 Police remaining.
There are currently 6 Mafia remaining.
There are currently 4 Third party remaining. Ok this is pretty simple. Barring extremes, a person in the police can claim freely and be elected mayor. Either mafia or third party would have to trade their entire squad to stop the police from doing this. Agree to this or not, it basically gives us a townie with a pre-set townie circle as mayor. So if you are a green townie it would be in your best interest to drop out of the race if this is to gain momentum. The extremes of course would be the game setup for-seeing this and giving scum and third party methods to circumvent this. 1) Infiltration. I have a really strong gut feeling that certain team members will have alternate win conditions. So police should decide amongst them who would be the best mayor and most likely town affiliated person. 2) ??? It's insane mafia, so this could backfire, but it beats me how. Any suggestions or criticisms are NECESSARY, because what the fuck do I know. Insane #1 raped me.
On March 24 2011 11:57 chaoser wrote:Also, something I'd like to point out Show nested quote +1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus
There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining. We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8)
These are both extremely good points. I absolutely agree with the item game thing. One caveat about the cop thing: how do we know that person is really a cop and not a mafia pretending to be a cop? are cops told who the other cops are?
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On March 24 2011 11:45 tnkted wrote:i get laid waaaaaay more often then you. 
On March 24 2011 11:47 Jackal58 wrote:
Pahlease bitch. I'm married.
if you are married, then as he said, he gets laid waaaaaay more often than you.
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insane mafia 1 was a terrible game for town.
remember how i was mafia and i basically supported pandain 100% openly as possible and then got lynched flipped red and then town god knows how managed to confirm pandain as town and he then commences to rape everyone and walk away with mafia victory.
good times.
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On March 24 2011 12:00 tnkted wrote:
are cops told who the other cops are?
Yep.
Everyone but townies are told who their allies are.
And I have/will update the FAQ so check frequently!
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On March 24 2011 12:00 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 11:45 tnkted wrote:i get laid waaaaaay more often then you. if you are married, then as he said, he gets laid waaaaaay more often than you.
well, i'm single, so its not like I go to bed with a girl every night like he does. I just get laid with more variety, i guess. 
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On March 24 2011 12:00 Coagulation wrote:
insane mafia 1 was a terrible game for town.
remember how i was mafia and i basically supported pandain 100% openly as possible and then got lynched flipped red and then town god knows how managed to confirm pandain as town and he then commences to rape everyone and walk away with mafia victory.
good times.
Maybe if you left me alive it wouldn't have been a terrible game 
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On March 24 2011 11:57 chaoser wrote:Also, something I'd like to point out Show nested quote +1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus
There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining. We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8)
all the more reason to vote for jackal.
he already confirmed himself town.
remember i know my shit when it comes to day 1 claims to town.
jackal is town
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On March 24 2011 12:02 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 12:00 annul wrote:On March 24 2011 11:45 tnkted wrote:i get laid waaaaaay more often then you. On March 24 2011 11:47 Jackal58 wrote:
Pahlease bitch. I'm married.
if you are married, then as he said, he gets laid waaaaaay more often than you. well, i'm single, so its not like I go to bed with a girl every night like he does. I just get laid with more variety, i guess.
What the fuck does this have to do with the fucking game again ?
Fuck man.
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On March 24 2011 12:03 Coagulation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 11:57 chaoser wrote:Also, something I'd like to point out 1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus
There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining. We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8) all the more reason to vote for jackal. he already confirmed himself town. remember i know my shit when it comes to day 1 claims to town. jackal is town
wait, what? when did he confirm himself town?
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Because he had absolutely no idea what the setup was for scum
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Also, as an aside from the mayor issue, I think our day 1 focus should be on the Item Game.
1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus
There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining.
If we lynch both mafia and black we pretty much have a cleared list of four townies. Also by lynching red or black we can help town have better chances at winning the game and giving us all the items.
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On March 24 2011 12:00 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 11:55 bumatlarge wrote:There are currently 30 players remaining.
There are currently 16 Townies remaining.
There are currently 4 Police remaining.
There are currently 6 Mafia remaining.
There are currently 4 Third party remaining. Ok this is pretty simple. Barring extremes, a person in the police can claim freely and be elected mayor. Either mafia or third party would have to trade their entire squad to stop the police from doing this. Agree to this or not, it basically gives us a townie with a pre-set townie circle as mayor. So if you are a green townie it would be in your best interest to drop out of the race if this is to gain momentum. The extremes of course would be the game setup for-seeing this and giving scum and third party methods to circumvent this. 1) Infiltration. I have a really strong gut feeling that certain team members will have alternate win conditions. So police should decide amongst them who would be the best mayor and most likely town affiliated person. 2) ??? It's insane mafia, so this could backfire, but it beats me how. Any suggestions or criticisms are NECESSARY, because what the fuck do I know. Insane #1 raped me. Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 11:57 chaoser wrote:Also, something I'd like to point out 1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus
There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining. We got a 2 in 6 chance of giving mayor to either black or red if we vote for someone in the item game while it's 16 to 8 if we vote for someone not in the game that a townie gets the mayor role (exclude them from the count so 20 town->16, 6->5 mafia, 4->3 black so that's 16:8) These are both extremely good points. I absolutely agree with the item game thing. One caveat about the cop thing: how do we know that person is really a cop and not a mafia pretending to be a cop? are cops told who the other cops are?
On March 24 2011 12:02 LSB wrote:Yep. Everyone but townies are told who their allies are. And I have/will update the FAQ so check frequently!
That sells it. Third and mafia would basically have to give up their entire team to counter a police claim. In which case it would be completely worth it.
Anyone have any counter-points to this?
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On March 24 2011 12:05 Coagulation wrote:
Because he had absolutely no idea what the setup was for scum
Well, that would be a fairly simple thing to fake, wouldn't it.
That's not a confirm, its a shred of evidence.
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well this is insane mafia.
theres gonna be alot of shit that we dont expect.
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Wait bum, can you explain the blue plan to me? So a blue player will claim blue, get voted mayor? If it's a red/black then someone on the blue team can immediately call them out on it? in which case it becomes a 1 on 1 and that's good for town. Is that what you're saying?
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On March 24 2011 12:08 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 12:05 Coagulation wrote:
Because he had absolutely no idea what the setup was for scum Well, that would be a fairly simple thing to fake, wouldn't it. That's not a confirm, its a shred of evidence.
you can ask around
i am pretty damn good at getting 100% town reads day 1 and banking big money on it and coming out on top.
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