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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 24 2011 03:21 GMT
#421
On March 24 2011 12:19 orgolove wrote:
Wait. Are the third party voters with the town? Else wouldn't it be too easy for them to just kill off all townies?


We have no idea what the third party win condition is we have to assume it is "kill off the entire mafia team" with town losing if they acheive their wincon. Much like in salem with the two mafia teams (this is the "worst case" assumption, and since we don't know better, Im going with it)
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
March 24 2011 03:21 GMT
#422
On March 24 2011 12:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 12:17 annul wrote:
here is why you should vote for me

we all have bad games. i have bad games. everyone has bad games.

that said, if i am having a GOOD game, i completely fucking rape the opposition.

there is probably just as much a chance that a mayor has a good game as a bad one, so let's give me the chance to have a good game this time and proceed to roll the fuck on the reds and blacks. i am just coming off of a good game and i feel the wheels still turning.


And what if you are having a good game as scum? Then you will fucking rape the opposition? I'm not liking the my odds

If annul is scum he'll be lynched by the end of day 2. That's his MO
Life can only kill you once.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 24 2011 03:23 GMT
#423
Third party win condition is to outnumber all other players
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 24 2011 03:23 GMT
#424
On March 24 2011 12:19 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 12:17 annul wrote:
here is why you should vote for me

we all have bad games. i have bad games. everyone has bad games.

that said, if i am having a GOOD game, i completely fucking rape the opposition.

there is probably just as much a chance that a mayor has a good game as a bad one, so let's give me the chance to have a good game this time and proceed to roll the fuck on the reds and blacks. i am just coming off of a good game and i feel the wheels still turning.


And what if you are having a good game as scum? Then you will fucking rape the opposition? I'm not liking the my odds



its ceteris parabis (from your POV) either way.

80% chance (it's 100% since i am a green, but from your POV) to mackmain on them hos? i mean as mayor its one of the most criticized positions in the game, so if i am a red it will really be obvious and you can take me down. but youll see i am not a red very easily, especially since i am in item game and we can confirm me + 3 others quickly in the game
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 24 2011 03:25 GMT
#425
in fact think about this: i presume mayor cant die to night kills while bodyguards are still up right? isnt it smartest to elect an item game player then? this way, the red and blacks in item game wont night 1 KP on the other item game players (since blacks cant die at night, and while reds can, it's a 1/6 chance to harm more than hurt)?
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
March 24 2011 03:25 GMT
#426
anyway, to reiterate my candidancy: Instead of some of the other candidates, I am proving my greenness by pure contribution to the game (analysis of plans, with what logical powers I have been granted), rather than by campaigning for myself.

I am a SAFE VOTE. If i am elected the first round will be an election just like every other round. Some of the other candidates' plans are risky. mine is not, at all.

That's my position. Take it or leave it. This is my last campaign message, other than answering questions. the rest of my time will be spend analyzing other people's stuff.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 24 2011 03:27 GMT
#427
we have to expect night 1 kills to be at least 1 item game player. black will shoot an item game player to better their chances to win the pot, and reds actually would be smart to not shoot the item game player, since they CANT night kill the blacks, and they need the most days as possible to get town to lynch the black in the item game player. so if we want black to not have a very good chance to win item game, give mayor to an item game player.

of course it's 1/6 to give it to the black, but the benefit (no night kill) is irrel to them anyway since they are all bulletproof
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 24 2011 03:28 GMT
#428
... and 0/6 to give it to the black or the red if you elect me, of course!
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 24 2011 03:30 GMT
#429
On March 24 2011 12:27 annul wrote:
since they CANT night kill the blacks,

what? Where the HELL are you getting that they are bulletproof? they are not SK's they are a third party faction, think of them as scum team two if thats better. 4 bullet proof people would be ridiculous
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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
March 24 2011 03:31 GMT
#430
On March 24 2011 12:30 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 12:27 annul wrote:
since they CANT night kill the blacks,

what? Where the HELL are you getting that they are bulletproof? they are not SK's they are a third party faction, think of them as scum team two if thats better. 4 bullet proof people would be ridiculous


Black Third Party- This is the hidden faction. Backed They all are bulletproof so they don’t die so easily
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
March 24 2011 03:31 GMT
#431
read the OP?
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 24 2011 03:32 GMT
#432
You know what, fuck it, I'll run for mayor too. Reasons why? One reason:

1) I have some sort of vision while others don't really:

On March 24 2011 12:05 chaoser wrote:
Also, as an aside from the mayor issue, I think our day 1 focus should be on the Item Game.

Show nested quote +
1. Coagulation
2. darmousseh
3. Jackal58
4. annul
5. Tackster
6. Lemonwalrus

There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining.
There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining.


If we lynch both mafia and black we pretty much have a cleared list of four townies. Also by lynching red or black we can help town have better chances at winning the game and giving us all the items.


Bum's plan also intrigues me and if a blue claims and runs I will immediately step down from running. This will be, of course, after I consider it some more to see if there are any glaring flaws in it.

I'm willing to compromise in terms of the voting/not voting for day 1 lynch. I'll go along with the town but also make my own analysis as well. If I believe town to be voting to lynch someone who is 80% not mafia in my eyes I will tell town and take a stand if I have to. Aside from that, I will be a mere civil servant, at the mercy of the people. I don't have flashy pictures or heart swelling music, but I do believe beer should be cold, boots should be dusty. I think 9/11 was bad and freedom? Well, I think that's just a little bit better.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
March 24 2011 03:32 GMT
#433
Right, all caught up now. Kav mode: Engaging

First order of business: COAG! WILL YOU BE MY BFF?

Second order of business: Jackal, I had town select the vote day one when I was a blue mayor. It's not scummy. Yes, it makes it easier for scum to influence it, but the mayor needs to be very, very transparent so that the town can analyse him/her. Thus, letting the town weigh in on the lynch keeps the mayor honest.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
March 24 2011 03:33 GMT
#434
Another thing about the blueclaim plan: somewhere earlier in this thread LSB said that it would be a very bad idea to roleclaim. I'm not going to dig through to find where it was, but I know that it was before page twelve.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
March 24 2011 03:34 GMT
#435
... the point being that roleclaiming might be very dangerous given what we don't yet know about powers. this is insane mafia, after all.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 24 2011 03:35 GMT
#436
its almost always a bad idea to publicly role claim early game
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
March 24 2011 03:37 GMT
#437
On March 24 2011 12:35 Coagulation wrote:
its almost always a bad idea to publicly role claim early game


Unless mafia doesn't realize there is no townie role and finds themselves all blown up by the next day.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
March 24 2011 03:37 GMT
#438
On March 24 2011 12:32 Kavdragon wrote:
Right, all caught up now. Kav mode: Engaging

First order of business: COAG! WILL YOU BE MY BFF?


only if your town.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
March 24 2011 03:38 GMT
#439
On March 24 2011 12:31 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2011 12:30 GMarshal wrote:
On March 24 2011 12:27 annul wrote:
since they CANT night kill the blacks,

what? Where the HELL are you getting that they are bulletproof? they are not SK's they are a third party faction, think of them as scum team two if thats better. 4 bullet proof people would be ridiculous


Show nested quote +
Black Third Party- This is the hidden faction. Backed They all are bulletproof so they don’t die so easily


Ok, I'm stupid, sorry. That actualy changes the dynamic quite a bit I assumed it was going to be both sides gunning for each other. In this case thrid party will definatly not be running for mayor. (IMO)
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
March 24 2011 03:39 GMT
#440
On March 24 2011 12:32 Kavdragon wrote:
Right, all caught up now. Kav mode: Engaging

First order of business: COAG! WILL YOU BE MY BFF?

Second order of business: Jackal, I had town select the vote day one when I was a blue mayor. It's not scummy. Yes, it makes it easier for scum to influence it, but the mayor needs to be very, very transparent so that the town can analyse him/her. Thus, letting the town weigh in on the lynch keeps the mayor honest.


Yeah thank god you let town vote or I wouldn't have gotten to do all that fun stuff. But Kav is right in the end, though the first lynch is usually always a miss regardless of how good your scum-hunting is day 1.
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