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On March 24 2011 12:19 orgolove wrote: Wait. Are the third party voters with the town? Else wouldn't it be too easy for them to just kill off all townies?
We have no idea what the third party win condition is we have to assume it is "kill off the entire mafia team" with town losing if they acheive their wincon. Much like in salem with the two mafia teams (this is the "worst case" assumption, and since we don't know better, Im going with it)
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On March 24 2011 12:19 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 12:17 annul wrote: here is why you should vote for me
we all have bad games. i have bad games. everyone has bad games.
that said, if i am having a GOOD game, i completely fucking rape the opposition.
there is probably just as much a chance that a mayor has a good game as a bad one, so let's give me the chance to have a good game this time and proceed to roll the fuck on the reds and blacks. i am just coming off of a good game and i feel the wheels still turning. And what if you are having a good game as scum? Then you will fucking rape the opposition? I'm not liking the my odds ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) If annul is scum he'll be lynched by the end of day 2. That's his MO
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Third party win condition is to outnumber all other players
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On March 24 2011 12:19 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 12:17 annul wrote: here is why you should vote for me
we all have bad games. i have bad games. everyone has bad games.
that said, if i am having a GOOD game, i completely fucking rape the opposition.
there is probably just as much a chance that a mayor has a good game as a bad one, so let's give me the chance to have a good game this time and proceed to roll the fuck on the reds and blacks. i am just coming off of a good game and i feel the wheels still turning. And what if you are having a good game as scum? Then you will fucking rape the opposition? I'm not liking the my odds ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif)
its ceteris parabis (from your POV) either way.
80% chance (it's 100% since i am a green, but from your POV) to mackmain on them hos? i mean as mayor its one of the most criticized positions in the game, so if i am a red it will really be obvious and you can take me down. but youll see i am not a red very easily, especially since i am in item game and we can confirm me + 3 others quickly in the game
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in fact think about this: i presume mayor cant die to night kills while bodyguards are still up right? isnt it smartest to elect an item game player then? this way, the red and blacks in item game wont night 1 KP on the other item game players (since blacks cant die at night, and while reds can, it's a 1/6 chance to harm more than hurt)?
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anyway, to reiterate my candidancy: Instead of some of the other candidates, I am proving my greenness by pure contribution to the game (analysis of plans, with what logical powers I have been granted), rather than by campaigning for myself.
I am a SAFE VOTE. If i am elected the first round will be an election just like every other round. Some of the other candidates' plans are risky. mine is not, at all.
That's my position. Take it or leave it. This is my last campaign message, other than answering questions. the rest of my time will be spend analyzing other people's stuff.
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we have to expect night 1 kills to be at least 1 item game player. black will shoot an item game player to better their chances to win the pot, and reds actually would be smart to not shoot the item game player, since they CANT night kill the blacks, and they need the most days as possible to get town to lynch the black in the item game player. so if we want black to not have a very good chance to win item game, give mayor to an item game player.
of course it's 1/6 to give it to the black, but the benefit (no night kill) is irrel to them anyway since they are all bulletproof
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... and 0/6 to give it to the black or the red if you elect me, of course!
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On March 24 2011 12:27 annul wrote: since they CANT night kill the blacks, what? Where the HELL are you getting that they are bulletproof? they are not SK's they are a third party faction, think of them as scum team two if thats better. 4 bullet proof people would be ridiculous
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On March 24 2011 12:30 GMarshal wrote:what? Where the HELL are you getting that they are bulletproof? they are not SK's they are a third party faction, think of them as scum team two if thats better. 4 bullet proof people would be ridiculous
Black Third Party- This is the hidden faction. Backed They all are bulletproof so they don’t die so easily
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You know what, fuck it, I'll run for mayor too. Reasons why? One reason:
1) I have some sort of vision while others don't really:
On March 24 2011 12:05 chaoser wrote:Also, as an aside from the mayor issue, I think our day 1 focus should be on the Item Game. Show nested quote +1. Coagulation 2. darmousseh 3. Jackal58 4. annul 5. Tackster 6. Lemonwalrus
There are currently 4/4 Townies remaining. There is currently 1/1 Mafia remaining. There is currently 1/1 Third Party remaining. If we lynch both mafia and black we pretty much have a cleared list of four townies. Also by lynching red or black we can help town have better chances at winning the game and giving us all the items.
Bum's plan also intrigues me and if a blue claims and runs I will immediately step down from running. This will be, of course, after I consider it some more to see if there are any glaring flaws in it.
I'm willing to compromise in terms of the voting/not voting for day 1 lynch. I'll go along with the town but also make my own analysis as well. If I believe town to be voting to lynch someone who is 80% not mafia in my eyes I will tell town and take a stand if I have to. Aside from that, I will be a mere civil servant, at the mercy of the people. I don't have flashy pictures or heart swelling music, but I do believe beer should be cold, boots should be dusty. I think 9/11 was bad and freedom? Well, I think that's just a little bit better.
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Right, all caught up now. Kav mode: Engaging
First order of business: COAG! WILL YOU BE MY BFF?
Second order of business: Jackal, I had town select the vote day one when I was a blue mayor. It's not scummy. Yes, it makes it easier for scum to influence it, but the mayor needs to be very, very transparent so that the town can analyse him/her. Thus, letting the town weigh in on the lynch keeps the mayor honest.
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Another thing about the blueclaim plan: somewhere earlier in this thread LSB said that it would be a very bad idea to roleclaim. I'm not going to dig through to find where it was, but I know that it was before page twelve.
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... the point being that roleclaiming might be very dangerous given what we don't yet know about powers. this is insane mafia, after all.
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its almost always a bad idea to publicly role claim early game
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On March 24 2011 12:35 Coagulation wrote: its almost always a bad idea to publicly role claim early game
Unless mafia doesn't realize there is no townie role and finds themselves all blown up by the next day.
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On March 24 2011 12:32 Kavdragon wrote: Right, all caught up now. Kav mode: Engaging
First order of business: COAG! WILL YOU BE MY BFF?
only if your town.
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On March 24 2011 12:31 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2011 12:30 GMarshal wrote:On March 24 2011 12:27 annul wrote: since they CANT night kill the blacks, what? Where the HELL are you getting that they are bulletproof? they are not SK's they are a third party faction, think of them as scum team two if thats better. 4 bullet proof people would be ridiculous Show nested quote +Black Third Party- This is the hidden faction. Backed They all are bulletproof so they don’t die so easily
Ok, I'm stupid, sorry. That actualy changes the dynamic quite a bit I assumed it was going to be both sides gunning for each other. In this case thrid party will definatly not be running for mayor. (IMO)
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On March 24 2011 12:32 Kavdragon wrote: Right, all caught up now. Kav mode: Engaging
First order of business: COAG! WILL YOU BE MY BFF?
Second order of business: Jackal, I had town select the vote day one when I was a blue mayor. It's not scummy. Yes, it makes it easier for scum to influence it, but the mayor needs to be very, very transparent so that the town can analyse him/her. Thus, letting the town weigh in on the lynch keeps the mayor honest.
Yeah thank god you let town vote or I wouldn't have gotten to do all that fun stuff. But Kav is right in the end, though the first lynch is usually always a miss regardless of how good your scum-hunting is day 1.
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