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sinii
England989 Posts
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On September 19 2014 04:11 sinii wrote: To be fair I am not sure he is fully sober right now judging by them tweets. (dadyrus) He possibly also overplays it or it is amplified by the nature of commenting on the internet. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
I'm still not convinced that TPA has a free ticket out of groups, but it will certainly be interesting to see if TSM can pick it up, or maybe SK turn out to be best team ever once they get back the guy who did nothing wrong. | ||
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REyeM
2674 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 19 2014 04:06 MattBarry wrote: It really is embarrassing to see a native english speaker type so incomprehensibly. He misspells so many words and his grammar is so bad, I can barely understand what he's trying to get at. Referring to Dadyrus He seems like the typical white trash kind of person. I don't know enough to say for sure but that's the vibe I get from him. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:17 Numy wrote: He seems like the typical white trash kind of person. I don't know enough to say for sure but that's the vibe I get from him. Dyrus should never have told him how to make an account on twitter imo. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21689 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:22 The_Red_Viper wrote: Dyrus should never have told him how to make an account on twitter imo. I didnt want to say it but now you made me "This is why you don't get your redneck dad on twitter when your a known figure" | ||
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Volband
Hungary6034 Posts
On September 19 2014 04:20 xes wrote: He possibly also overplays it or it is amplified by the nature of commenting on the internet. He's a simple man, maybe one you guys call a redneck, I don't know. If it's alcohol than judged by his tweets he's an alcoholic, so it's not much better than being a simpleton. I pity him for no one telling him to leave social media, there's nothing shameful accepting that it doesn't click with you at this age - or this age and this temper. And now I can finally release my theories about him! Maybe I'm going to be way off, but ever since his sudden introduction in s2, I always considered him a hoax. He throws his son out, then you see him crying tears of joy because he's so proud of him? Let's be honest, Dyrus would be the last man on Earth to stand his ground and see through the obvious rip-off. And seeing how simple this guy is, it makes me hard to believe he considers progaming an achievement without the money. A 40+ years old, raging plumber who suddenly respects "mashing buttons" and his lazy son. As for Loco and co., I'm not so sure if it should be punishable. There needs to be a line drawned, no questions about it, but artificially removing every negativity from the scene would be ridiculous. BM is everywhere and it adds to the enjoyment factor to certain games. I mean wow, two hyped people who are known to make blunt statements while having 0 achievements in progaming to show off (unless Dlifts consistently having the most cs in games in support the Dlift era matters) got called out after making negative statements about the team which made it's 4th debut in the world's stage. I think Regi and Loco are being stupid, but I wouldn't fine any of them. Also, we are talking about them, instead of how fucking terrible Dyrus is once again when it matters, so good job Regi. | ||
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ryklin
United States16 Posts
On September 19 2014 03:59 ShootAnonymous wrote: I like TPA, just on principle (S2 fairytale) and TSM's management + image + presentation of fanbase annoys me so my heart is wayyyyy on the SHRC-TPA making out of groups camp. Logically though, TPA's inability to close out their game against SHRC is really worrying + TSM's flop game might be due more to #NA RENGAR, TSM's Ego and mechanical weakness in comparison to SHRC than actual weaknesses that TPA can exploit. Because AFAIK, Winds isn't a rengar player, and TPA are definitely not mechanical gods. Ego/Lack of respect for opponents might be a thing though. Go Go TPA? :D the big issue with TSM was a lot of snowballing off bot lane turtle and amazing are both big weak links especially amazing, his champion pool is like, 2 champions and both of them got nerfed considerably this season lustboy is an upgrade from gleeb, but probably equal with xpecial, but he's probably a big part of why Blaze decided it was time to re-do their roster they fell for a M5 zilean comp that barely even needed the rengar zilean combo because they were so far ahead lustboy had that bad roaming, and turtle just got pushed in on and harassed non-stop, but the game basically ended with the fed irelia also, the zed pick seemed really weak there despite little seeming wrong from bjerg than his roaming and dyrus just sat top and repeatedly got collapsed on destroying their chances of getting back in the game | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21689 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:29 ryklin wrote: the big issue with TSM was a lot of snowballing off bot lane turtle and amazing are both big weak links especially amazing, his champion pool is like, 2 champions and both of them got nerfed considerably this season lustboy is an upgrade from gleeb, but probably equal with xpecial, but he's probably a big part of why Blaze decided it was time to re-do their roster they fell for a M5 zilean comp that barely even needed the rengar zilean combo because they were so far ahead lustboy had that bad roaming, and turtle just got pushed in on and harassed non-stop, but the game basically ended with the fed irelia also, the zed pick seemed really weak there despite little seeming wrong from bjerg than his roaming and dyrus just sat top and repeatedly got collapsed on destroying their chances of getting back in the game If TSM does not beat the enemy team on raw skill they go all defensive and make to little plays. The problem is that at the world stage their skills are not exceptional. If they dont get ahead early against their remaining opponents I expect them to fall just as hard as they did against Royal. | ||
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
That being said I was pretty surprised at white for styling so much even though they never put themselves in danger of actually losing, one would think last years performance would have them closing the games methodically. | ||
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ryklin
United States16 Posts
you're going to do the most damage done as lucian when your competition is a J4, maokai, and orianna especially when SSW was focusing U's orianna so that he had 2 choices, get the best shockwave he could before dying OR die without dropping a shockwave you could notice that they sent k6 or rumble in to kill orianna or force her to shockwave, then they really tried to start the fight also they very narrowly avoided a shockwave while sieging bot inhibitor meanwhile, imp's tris has to compete with zilean bombs, full damage k6, and rumble when EDG only has so much health, so I'm not sure if phreak interprets damage to champions correctly, also having poke abilities like lucian significantly increases damage to champions I know SSW was being very cautious with the orianna in the game, but I think if U had played a bit better, EDG could have gotten back in that, mostly because of SSW's lack of hard cc . White's engage was rumble ult and zilean speed (nami ult was being saved for disengage in case a shockwave landed), but even with this, if U had played a bit better, I think they could have gotten that game back there was also the issue of the time EDG won a fight at baron, they got 3 for 1 (I think) at baron and instead of pushing down the middle inhibitor, they chose to go after dragon and recall, I believe that was an awful decision j4 may also have been a bad pick, but he's always been a well liked pick in China MUCH MORE than in other regions other than that, phreak's notes about their rotations and EDG playing as a responding team, often a step behind was very true | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21689 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:41 Slusher wrote: despite the completely unsurprising rape of TSM, I have to say I allowed myself to get overhyped on China, the way The game was pretty entertaining but EDG, their supposed best team got played with, there is no threat to KR. That being said I was pretty surprised at white for styling so much even though they never put themselves in danger of actually losing, one would think last years performance would have them closing the games methodically. Their second game was very blatant in this after the almost assured win from the level 1 ace. Thresh would never dive 2 towers past 2 other opponents to try and kill a near death mid-laner if they were not trying to showboat. | ||
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ryklin
United States16 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:27 Volband wrote: As for Loco and co., I'm not so sure if it should be punishable. There needs to be a line drawned, no questions about it, but artificially removing every negativity from the scene would be ridiculous. BM is everywhere and it adds to the enjoyment factor to certain games. I mean wow, two hyped people who are known to make blunt statements while having 0 achievements in progaming to show off (unless Dlifts consistently having the most cs in games in support the Dlift era matters) got called out after making negative statements about the team which made it's 4th debut in the world's stage. I think Regi and Loco are being stupid, but I wouldn't fine any of them. Also, we are talking about them, instead of how fucking terrible Dyrus is once again when it matters, so good job Regi. Oddly enough, loco/double botlane CLG was actually the last time a NA team performed at top team team level. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the bigger reason(for Namai's stat line being competitive) was trist spent like 20 min split pushing and also died first every fight (or at a minimum spent the like 8 sec animation of the ZIlian ult not doing damage) | ||
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ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:29 ryklin wrote: the big issue with TSM was a lot of snowballing off bot lane turtle and amazing are both big weak links especially amazing, his champion pool is like, 2 champions and both of them got nerfed considerably this season lustboy is an upgrade from gleeb, but probably equal with xpecial, but he's probably a big part of why Blaze decided it was time to re-do their roster they fell for a M5 zilean comp that barely even needed the rengar zilean combo because they were so far ahead lustboy had that bad roaming, and turtle just got pushed in on and harassed non-stop, but the game basically ended with the fed irelia also, the zed pick seemed really weak there despite little seeming wrong from bjerg than his roaming and dyrus just sat top and repeatedly got collapsed on destroying their chances of getting back in the game RE: botlane TPA's botlane is nowhere near as strong as SHRC's. Should be either a wash or slight advantage to either team. And without a strong advantage, I don't think a similar situation would have happened. Really need Fusilero or someone to update me on Winds' effective jungle champion pool. I don't recall him playing or doing well on Rengar, for one. xD Amazing's lack of champ pool might be massively exploited or not at all depending on how TPA does their BP, which is then dependent on what champs Winds can play, and play well. Bjerg's effect on the game would've been dulled by the fact that the presence of Janna and Zilean, regardless of how the lanes went. And the lanes went badly, so even less he could do when the ticking time bomb at their botlane culminated in an implosion. I'm not sure what would've been a better pick for Bjerg =d I also want to point a really cute(?) thing SHRC did. After one of the 5v5 skirmishes where TSM actually came out on top in terms of health, Zero on Janna just used his ult to heal the whole SHRC team back to full health so they could challenge for objectives right away instead of having to base and come back out. SHRC cut TSM off while the latter did the dragon, heading straight for and threatening the mid T2 of TSM, and then quite nicely pushed TSM that was not completely at full health into fighting with them. Not sure if the ult use by Zero was all that great, just found it really interesting. On September 19 2014 05:41 Slusher wrote: That being said I was pretty surprised at white for styling so much even though they never put themselves in danger of actually losing, one would think last years performance would have them closing the games methodically. Imp doing Imp things. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:42 ryklin wrote: phreak made some commment about how lucian did the most damage to champions in EDG vs SSW you're going to do the most damage done as lucian when your competition is a J4, maokai, and orianna He did the most damage in the game not just on his team. | ||
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asymptotech
United States295 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:42 ryklin wrote: phreak made some commment about how lucian did the most damage to champions in EDG vs SSW you're going to do the most damage done as lucian when your competition is a J4, maokai, and orianna He did the most damage to champions from either team, not just his own. That's why Phreak pointed it out and seemed genuinely surprised by it. Of course he did more than his own teammates. #tooslow | ||
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ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
On September 19 2014 05:53 Numy wrote: He did the most damage in the game not just on his team. You're misunderstanding his post. Both EDG & SSW have finite health. EDG's health is lower than SSW's, since they are behind. In ideal scenarios for both teams, EDG will out-DPS SSW, simply because there's more for you to hit before the target goes down. EDG's poke/dmg-dealing champs are: Lucian, Ori. SSW focuses Ori, so she doesn't have the best dmg-dealing environment. Hence most, if not all the poke will be done by Lucian onto a SSW team that has more health than EDG. In contrast, SSW's dmg-dealing champs: Trist, Zilean, Khazix, Rumble. Naturally the dmg dealt to EDG will be spread out between the four champs, because each champion won't be in a max-dmg-dealing scenario (the targets will have lost health for you to deal dmg to thanks to teammates' poke/straight-up attacks) (I'm still impressed by Namei though.) | ||
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