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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 18 2014 22:29 GMT
#1301
I'll settle for 7 East 1 BR the Dream I guess
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
September 18 2014 23:04 GMT
#1302
thank god didnt stay up for other games, boring as hell.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-18 23:24:24
September 18 2014 23:21 GMT
#1303
On September 19 2014 07:09 Fusilero wrote:
I still think najin white shield will drop a game somewhere, probably to EDG or alliance. The samsungs on the other hand? Don't see it happening

I actually like what I saw from EDG. They have decent early game/mid game (most ppl was expecting EDG to get stomped in this part of the game) with really good vision control over dragon/baron. The biggest problem was not understanding zil/k6 combo and Clearlove playing super passive in early game/thinking that he can just ward around and farm. He got outscaled super hard in early game (zil passive/exp advantage) and couldn't really gank in mid game without having vision on Dandy.
Also EDG made uncharacteristic bad plays at baron and U played his worst champion with having 0 impact in teamfights.

I feel like EDG can learn a lot from this game: koreans will always trade top lane for first dragon and try to fight for second one/ how powerful zil/k6 combo is etc. Also we need to remember that NaMei still didn't feel the best after that whole food poisoning. So, I think there is change that they will take 1 game in bo5 from Samsung.

For me Shield/Alliance is such a wild card. I have no idea how they will perform. We didn't see Alliance play in month and they never played pro game at 4.14. In other hand we have Shield, team that have 2 players that overperformed (Zefa/Watch) and steam roll regionals mostly with team comp build around assassin mid lane with good siege (Janna/Lucian). So far from this tournament we can see that no one, beside TSM is willing to pick Ahri/Zed if Zil is open, so Ggoong will need to adapt.
So many question marks surround this two teams, still I think they will easily advance from group D.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 18 2014 23:39 GMT
#1304
Pawn played like absolute shit vs. EDG and White still stomped. Dandy and Mata's gap over Chinese's junglers (even though Fzzf was impressive and the silver lining of his team) is so large that White's solo lanes, especially Pawn, could play below par and still crush. White's usual cruise control cockiness with a huge lead came back with the Baron, but I don't think it bodes well for the chances of the world if that was truly EDG's best effort against White.

Pawn should be playing Yasuo (9-1), Orianna (10-4) and Jayce (4-1) for the rest of the tournament. His Zilean and other champions aren't that impressive, and his best champion Nidalee was taken away from his style of play with constant long range spears.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 18 2014 23:41 GMT
#1305
On September 19 2014 08:39 Fionn wrote:
Pawn played like absolute shit vs. EDG and White still stomped. Dandy and Mata's gap over Chinese's junglers (even though Fzzf was impressive and the silver lining of his team) is so large that White's solo lanes, especially Pawn, could play below par and still crush. White's usual cruise control cockiness with a huge lead came back with the Baron, but I don't think it bodes well for the chances of the world if that was truly EDG's best effort against White.

Pawn should be playing Yasuo (9-1), Orianna (10-4) and Jayce (4-1) for the rest of the tournament. His Zilean and other champions aren't that impressive, and his best champion Nidalee was taken away from his style of play with constant long range spears.


What about TSM,Royal and TPA?
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 00:04:29
September 18 2014 23:56 GMT
#1306
On September 19 2014 07:05 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 07:00 Slow Motion wrote:
It's only opening day and already so much drama . . .

Dis gon be a helluva Worlds


Sunday is going to be hilarious when TSM are going to be eliminated.
Burns will be real.

It's really hilarious, how different are C9 and TSM managements considering that basically, Jack and Dan organised both organisations in way they function.

But seriously, only question i have after that day.
- Will Korean teams finally drop a game to foreigners because it hadn't happen since last Worlds.
If no, then it will be even bigger level of dominance than it is in Starcraft :>

Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 07:03 Kipsate wrote:
Can I find VODS somewhere?


They have rebroadcast currently and VODs are on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/LoLChampSeries/videos


I would love to see TSM go out, because a lot of their fans just get on my nerves and the shit Regi and Loco are putting out just makes them not very likable. But I think Svenskeren helped their chances of advancing from being quite low to making it for sure. I can only hardly imagine a scenario where TSM doesn´t advance out of this group now and it would be mindless hate (the same we are seing from Regi and Loco towards SI and MonteChristo) to say, they are surely going out.

To your point on koreans vs non-koreans: I think at the very least, Shield and perhaps even Blue will drop games in their group. In fact I think Alliance and C9 have both a pretty decent chance to upset Shield and both make it out of their group together. (Remider: I´m still concidering this to happen as an UPSET, not as the most likely event to happen!) There will games being dropped, for sure!

On September 19 2014 08:39 Fionn wrote:
Pawn played like absolute shit vs. EDG and White still stomped. Dandy and Mata's gap over Chinese's junglers (even though Fzzf was impressive and the silver lining of his team) is so large that White's solo lanes, especially Pawn, could play below par and still crush. White's usual cruise control cockiness with a huge lead came back with the Baron, but I don't think it bodes well for the chances of the world if that was truly EDG's best effort against White.

Pawn should be playing Yasuo (9-1), Orianna (10-4) and Jayce (4-1) for the rest of the tournament. His Zilean and other champions aren't that impressive, and his best champion Nidalee was taken away from his style of play with constant long range spears.



I would go even farther on Pawn´s performance against EDG: His Zillean has been very bad so far (for his own standards). He sucked on Zillean vs Blue and he wasn´t impressive vs EDG either.
But if you combine the Zillean pick, the Rumble pick for Looper and the fact, that they have every right to consider their group weak (despite EDG ofc), you can see them using this game as a very good testrun for some unproven picks.
They are up against a very competetive opponent in a competetive enviroment, but with a safety net of a weak group. They picked a very difficult to execute comp with some picks, that they don´t run very often. To me this looked like a testrun. And they should have learned a lot out of it, despite making it somewhat work against one of the biggest favorites in the tournament besides them. Looks pretty good for the team to me.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 19 2014 00:10 GMT
#1307
--- Nuked ---
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
September 19 2014 00:34 GMT
#1308
On September 19 2014 09:10 krndandaman wrote:
^After watching today's games I'm fairly confident TPA will make it over TSM. We'll see how that matchup goes though.


I'm surprised that you had to watch today's game feel that way. I don't know where all these TSM false hope came from but it's been pretty clear that they never stood a chance. They got a lucky break with SK's jungler out but they would still have to pull off upsets against SHRC and TPA.
神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 19 2014 00:37 GMT
#1309
Does anyone know what dandy was building with that pickaxe in the first game? I'm guessing hydra but he already had 3 dps items.
@miicah88
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 19 2014 00:38 GMT
#1310
On September 19 2014 07:26 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 07:24 Kupon3ss wrote:
On September 19 2014 06:29 TheYango wrote:
If TPA makes it out then we've got a pretty high likelihood of seeing a 7-1 East-West split in the Ro8.


Don't give up on 8 0 the dream


But it's impossible D:
One Western team is guaranteed.


Kabum representing the west.

I think TSM is likely to get out of groups. Would rather see TPA advance because I have never liked TSM, but I think comparing the way they played against Royal is really shitty. TSM lost early from good play by inSec and they looked terrible but TPA got up to a 10k gold lead due to a single really good fight and still couldn't close out the game due to terrible decision making. I think TSM is favored unless TPA gets ahead early like they did against Royal.

Would much rather see TSM eliminated though.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 19 2014 00:39 GMT
#1311
Judging anything off a bo1 is a bad idea.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
September 19 2014 00:42 GMT
#1312
bebe looked like shit, only way TSM has a chance. he was playing like mindblowingly bad.
I come in for the scraps
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 19 2014 00:43 GMT
#1313
Unless it proves that NA is good
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 19 2014 00:54 GMT
#1314
--- Nuked ---
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
September 19 2014 01:30 GMT
#1315
Can someone recommend me the best games so far?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-19 01:38:06
September 19 2014 01:35 GMT
#1316
On September 19 2014 09:37 miicah wrote:
Does anyone know what dandy was building with that pickaxe in the first game? I'm guessing hydra but he already had 3 dps items.


nvm no idea
Carrilord has arrived.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 19 2014 01:39 GMT
#1317
On September 19 2014 10:35 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 09:37 miicah wrote:
Does anyone know what dandy was building with that pickaxe in the first game? I'm guessing hydra but he already had 3 dps items.


nvm no idea


He already had a MoM

On September 19 2014 10:30 jaybrundage wrote:
Can someone recommend me the best games so far?


SSW vs EDG - back and forth
SSW vs AHQ - le trole face
SHRC vs TSM - Insec
@miicah88
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
September 19 2014 01:52 GMT
#1318
SSW vs EDG was probably the best game. Despite people thinking SSW was "getting too cocky", that's actually how they play in their OGN games! EDG really does remind me more and more of "mini Blue". The gap between junglers though is just way way too big.
AsianEcksDragon
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1036 Posts
September 19 2014 01:53 GMT
#1319
NA's best hope is still Cloud9 regardless of who won the LCS split. They pick/ban well and have decent map control and rotation. Although I really don't see them making it out because they have to compete against NJWS and Alliance.

Group C is definitely the most interesting group imo. It's battle for second place between Fnatic, OMG, and LMQ. I can't decide which of them is the best. They've all proven to be capable but aren't really consistent with their success.

神は乗り越えられる試練しか与えない
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 19 2014 03:30 GMT
#1320
On September 19 2014 07:29 Kupon3ss wrote:
I'll settle for 7 East 1 BR the Dream I guess

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