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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On January 19 2014 00:41 overt wrote:
I think Bjergsen TSM looks worse than Regi TSM. Reddit way overreacting to C9's Teemo pick, calling for nerfs after the champ gets picked once in the last like year competitively. Dig will be worst team in NA, can't even beat CLG when dexter > link in jungle and Link > Hotshot in mid. XDG role swap looks decent.
This is what I basically got out of day 1.
TSM have a long way ahead.
They're playing too defensive right now i feel, you can't win against highly aggressive Cloud9 by stalling and farming.
But they have Dignitas and Curse this week, so it's pretty much free road.
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On January 18 2014 21:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 14:28 SagaZ wrote:On January 18 2014 13:43 Yezzus wrote:On January 18 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:45 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:10 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 18 2014 12:01 wei2coolman wrote:
lack of engage from Dig hurt them. Leona's ult is awesome, but takes a lot of skills to use as the only initiation for a team. He hit zero gamechangers. At least could hit same which Xpecial hit in mid against EG, getting Pete and Snoopeh stunned and instagibbed. Instead of it, he whiffed 3-4 probably. It's easier to hit leona ult as a follow up engage, but not as a first ult out. If Crumbz had landed his cocoon, or if Scarra played something with CC, the leona ulti becomes a lot easier to hit. EDIT: watching tsm vs c9. not understanding the adc pick with nunu. I see why they chose nunu, cuz they want more map control without sacrificing objective control (early sightstone, but has such strong jungling ability (the q)). Lucian doesn't need that much AS, dunno why they don't run this with more AS based ADC, especially since they tried to force the 2v1 early game, they could have gotten away with something like Kogmaw or Vayne. Lucian ult scales off of AS so bloodboil actually makes his ult useful Yes, because you should totally use Nunu's AS boost, for an ADC's ulti. that's still a huge opportunity cost loss in damage in comparison to autoattack based ADC. All ADCs scale off of AS? Like literally the only difference between him and another ADC is that he has an extra ability which scales off of AS? You're always bloodboiling the ADC anyway so like just having extra synergy is bad? I honestly don't understand what you're saying. I'm saying, he doesn't make full use of the AS boost, the same reason why Lucian doesn't build AS outside of Triforce. Majority of his combat time is spent using ability, and interweaving already 100% boosted AS due to passive, that means he's only using the AS boost off of A) his ulti, or B) the 2 seconds he has when all his abilities are on Cd, after going through full rotation. As opposed onto something like Kogmaw, who is just auto attack for days using full AS boost while in combat. that's not to say thats why TSM lost though. need strong initiate to deal with something like teemo. Nasus/nunu, not good initiate. EDIT: holy shit, dis zuna jungle so fucking scary, like wtf, such solid play. after getting doublebuff he camps wraiths for snoopeh, very smart jungler move. Yeah ZUna did really well as Olaf, Elise.....not so much small correction: Zuna did well against EG, against C9... not so much even smaller correction: Zuna did well in game where he had doublebuffs until his buffs respawn. In other game...not so much.
Imo he did a great job abusing advantage. Smart camping wraiths to wreck snoopeh. Stayed in lane against kass to force kass back and allow mancloud to get advantage in lane despite being down cs after that first engagement.
If you watch carefully. When mancloud respawned after giving firstblood. He's down 8 or 10 cs to pobelter. But because zuna was abusing his strength in lane and force both pobelter and snoopeh back you quickly see mancloud catch up on cs and easily surpassing pobelter.
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On January 19 2014 01:23 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 18 2014 21:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 18 2014 14:28 SagaZ wrote:On January 18 2014 13:43 Yezzus wrote:On January 18 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:45 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:10 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:04 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
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He hit zero gamechangers.
At least could hit same which Xpecial hit in mid against EG, getting Pete and Snoopeh stunned and instagibbed.
Instead of it, he whiffed 3-4 probably. It's easier to hit leona ult as a follow up engage, but not as a first ult out. If Crumbz had landed his cocoon, or if Scarra played something with CC, the leona ulti becomes a lot easier to hit. EDIT: watching tsm vs c9. not understanding the adc pick with nunu. I see why they chose nunu, cuz they want more map control without sacrificing objective control (early sightstone, but has such strong jungling ability (the q)). Lucian doesn't need that much AS, dunno why they don't run this with more AS based ADC, especially since they tried to force the 2v1 early game, they could have gotten away with something like Kogmaw or Vayne. Lucian ult scales off of AS so bloodboil actually makes his ult useful Yes, because you should totally use Nunu's AS boost, for an ADC's ulti. that's still a huge opportunity cost loss in damage in comparison to autoattack based ADC. All ADCs scale off of AS? Like literally the only difference between him and another ADC is that he has an extra ability which scales off of AS? You're always bloodboiling the ADC anyway so like just having extra synergy is bad? I honestly don't understand what you're saying. I'm saying, he doesn't make full use of the AS boost, the same reason why Lucian doesn't build AS outside of Triforce. Majority of his combat time is spent using ability, and interweaving already 100% boosted AS due to passive, that means he's only using the AS boost off of A) his ulti, or B) the 2 seconds he has when all his abilities are on Cd, after going through full rotation. As opposed onto something like Kogmaw, who is just auto attack for days using full AS boost while in combat. that's not to say thats why TSM lost though. need strong initiate to deal with something like teemo. Nasus/nunu, not good initiate. EDIT: holy shit, dis zuna jungle so fucking scary, like wtf, such solid play. after getting doublebuff he camps wraiths for snoopeh, very smart jungler move. Yeah ZUna did really well as Olaf, Elise.....not so much small correction: Zuna did well against EG, against C9... not so much even smaller correction: Zuna did well in game where he had doublebuffs until his buffs respawn. In other game...not so much. Imo he did a great job abusing advantage. Smart camping wraiths to wreck snoopeh. Stayed in lane against kass to force kass back and allow mancloud to get advantage in lane despite being down cs after that first engagement. If you watch carefully. When mancloud respawned after giving firstblood. He's down 8 or 10 cs to pobelter. But because zuna was abusing his strength in lane and force both pobelter and snoopeh back you quickly see mancloud catch up on cs and easily surpassing pobelter.
Every Kayle can abuse Kassadin without any defences, who went for straight tear after fb.
So, nothing gamechanging from Zuna, even though he wasn't bad.
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Maybe xpecial looked so lacking since he was trying to call plays, I think he was supposed to take increased responsibility for that. Otherwise, their rotations and object control were not very impressive. Might need more time to meld.
C9 still have the best midgame in NA, few teams look better at that timing. No team has looked really strong in the late game.
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On January 19 2014 01:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 01:23 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 21:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 18 2014 14:28 SagaZ wrote:On January 18 2014 13:43 Yezzus wrote:On January 18 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:45 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:10 wei2coolman wrote:
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It's easier to hit leona ult as a follow up engage, but not as a first ult out.
If Crumbz had landed his cocoon, or if Scarra played something with CC, the leona ulti becomes a lot easier to hit.
EDIT: watching tsm vs c9.
not understanding the adc pick with nunu.
I see why they chose nunu, cuz they want more map control without sacrificing objective control (early sightstone, but has such strong jungling ability (the q)). Lucian doesn't need that much AS, dunno why they don't run this with more AS based ADC, especially since they tried to force the 2v1 early game, they could have gotten away with something like Kogmaw or Vayne. Lucian ult scales off of AS so bloodboil actually makes his ult useful Yes, because you should totally use Nunu's AS boost, for an ADC's ulti. that's still a huge opportunity cost loss in damage in comparison to autoattack based ADC. All ADCs scale off of AS? Like literally the only difference between him and another ADC is that he has an extra ability which scales off of AS? You're always bloodboiling the ADC anyway so like just having extra synergy is bad? I honestly don't understand what you're saying. I'm saying, he doesn't make full use of the AS boost, the same reason why Lucian doesn't build AS outside of Triforce. Majority of his combat time is spent using ability, and interweaving already 100% boosted AS due to passive, that means he's only using the AS boost off of A) his ulti, or B) the 2 seconds he has when all his abilities are on Cd, after going through full rotation. As opposed onto something like Kogmaw, who is just auto attack for days using full AS boost while in combat. that's not to say thats why TSM lost though. need strong initiate to deal with something like teemo. Nasus/nunu, not good initiate. EDIT: holy shit, dis zuna jungle so fucking scary, like wtf, such solid play. after getting doublebuff he camps wraiths for snoopeh, very smart jungler move. Yeah ZUna did really well as Olaf, Elise.....not so much small correction: Zuna did well against EG, against C9... not so much even smaller correction: Zuna did well in game where he had doublebuffs until his buffs respawn. In other game...not so much. Imo he did a great job abusing advantage. Smart camping wraiths to wreck snoopeh. Stayed in lane against kass to force kass back and allow mancloud to get advantage in lane despite being down cs after that first engagement. If you watch carefully. When mancloud respawned after giving firstblood. He's down 8 or 10 cs to pobelter. But because zuna was abusing his strength in lane and force both pobelter and snoopeh back you quickly see mancloud catch up on cs and easily surpassing pobelter. Every Kayle can abuse Kassadin without any defences, who went for straight tear after fb. So, nothing gamechanging from Zuna, even though he wasn't bad.
Stop undermineing what Zuna did just because he is Zuna. What he did was really smart and i doubt every jungler in LCS would have the IQ to abuse ther advantage like he did which was surprising. This was his first time jungling competatively in a long time and he was probably top 3-4 jungling yesterday which says alot. He did well leave it at that lets see what happens today
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On January 19 2014 01:49 Yezzus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 01:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 01:23 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 21:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 18 2014 14:28 SagaZ wrote:On January 18 2014 13:43 Yezzus wrote:On January 18 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:45 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
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Lucian ult scales off of AS so bloodboil actually makes his ult useful Yes, because you should totally use Nunu's AS boost, for an ADC's ulti. that's still a huge opportunity cost loss in damage in comparison to autoattack based ADC. All ADCs scale off of AS? Like literally the only difference between him and another ADC is that he has an extra ability which scales off of AS? You're always bloodboiling the ADC anyway so like just having extra synergy is bad? I honestly don't understand what you're saying. I'm saying, he doesn't make full use of the AS boost, the same reason why Lucian doesn't build AS outside of Triforce. Majority of his combat time is spent using ability, and interweaving already 100% boosted AS due to passive, that means he's only using the AS boost off of A) his ulti, or B) the 2 seconds he has when all his abilities are on Cd, after going through full rotation. As opposed onto something like Kogmaw, who is just auto attack for days using full AS boost while in combat. that's not to say thats why TSM lost though. need strong initiate to deal with something like teemo. Nasus/nunu, not good initiate. EDIT: holy shit, dis zuna jungle so fucking scary, like wtf, such solid play. after getting doublebuff he camps wraiths for snoopeh, very smart jungler move. Yeah ZUna did really well as Olaf, Elise.....not so much small correction: Zuna did well against EG, against C9... not so much even smaller correction: Zuna did well in game where he had doublebuffs until his buffs respawn. In other game...not so much. Imo he did a great job abusing advantage. Smart camping wraiths to wreck snoopeh. Stayed in lane against kass to force kass back and allow mancloud to get advantage in lane despite being down cs after that first engagement. If you watch carefully. When mancloud respawned after giving firstblood. He's down 8 or 10 cs to pobelter. But because zuna was abusing his strength in lane and force both pobelter and snoopeh back you quickly see mancloud catch up on cs and easily surpassing pobelter. Every Kayle can abuse Kassadin without any defences, who went for straight tear after fb. So, nothing gamechanging from Zuna, even though he wasn't bad. Stop undermineing what Zuna did just because he is Zuna. What he did was really smart and i doubt every jungler in LCS would have the IQ to abuse ther advantage like he did which was surprising. This was his first time jungling competatively in a long time and he was probably top 3-4 jungling yesterday which says alot. He did well leave it at that lets see what happens today
pretty much this, i've seen plenty of pro junglers who were in the same situation but couldn't make the same impact and snowball double buff advantage.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On January 19 2014 01:49 Yezzus wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 01:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 01:23 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 21:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 18 2014 14:28 SagaZ wrote:On January 18 2014 13:43 Yezzus wrote:On January 18 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:45 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:42 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
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Lucian ult scales off of AS so bloodboil actually makes his ult useful Yes, because you should totally use Nunu's AS boost, for an ADC's ulti. that's still a huge opportunity cost loss in damage in comparison to autoattack based ADC. All ADCs scale off of AS? Like literally the only difference between him and another ADC is that he has an extra ability which scales off of AS? You're always bloodboiling the ADC anyway so like just having extra synergy is bad? I honestly don't understand what you're saying. I'm saying, he doesn't make full use of the AS boost, the same reason why Lucian doesn't build AS outside of Triforce. Majority of his combat time is spent using ability, and interweaving already 100% boosted AS due to passive, that means he's only using the AS boost off of A) his ulti, or B) the 2 seconds he has when all his abilities are on Cd, after going through full rotation. As opposed onto something like Kogmaw, who is just auto attack for days using full AS boost while in combat. that's not to say thats why TSM lost though. need strong initiate to deal with something like teemo. Nasus/nunu, not good initiate. EDIT: holy shit, dis zuna jungle so fucking scary, like wtf, such solid play. after getting doublebuff he camps wraiths for snoopeh, very smart jungler move. Yeah ZUna did really well as Olaf, Elise.....not so much small correction: Zuna did well against EG, against C9... not so much even smaller correction: Zuna did well in game where he had doublebuffs until his buffs respawn. In other game...not so much. Imo he did a great job abusing advantage. Smart camping wraiths to wreck snoopeh. Stayed in lane against kass to force kass back and allow mancloud to get advantage in lane despite being down cs after that first engagement. If you watch carefully. When mancloud respawned after giving firstblood. He's down 8 or 10 cs to pobelter. But because zuna was abusing his strength in lane and force both pobelter and snoopeh back you quickly see mancloud catch up on cs and easily surpassing pobelter. Every Kayle can abuse Kassadin without any defences, who went for straight tear after fb. So, nothing gamechanging from Zuna, even though he wasn't bad. Stop undermineing what Zuna did just because he is Zuna. What he did was really smart and i doubt every jungler in LCS would have the IQ to abuse ther advantage like he did which was surprising. This was his first time jungling competatively in a long time and he was probably top 3-4 jungling yesterday which says alot. He did well leave it at that lets see what happens today
It was logic that he's gonna try to counterjungle as much as possible just because he's Olaf, lol.
And i don't think that i said anywhere that Zuna was bad. It wasn't underwhelming or brilliant performance, just solid and nice.
Leave it and watch him in 26 games more now.
These top-tiers are quite ridiculous after 1-2 games.
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On January 19 2014 01:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 01:49 Yezzus wrote:On January 19 2014 01:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 01:23 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 21:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 18 2014 14:28 SagaZ wrote:On January 18 2014 13:43 Yezzus wrote:On January 18 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On January 18 2014 12:45 wei2coolman wrote:
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Yes, because you should totally use Nunu's AS boost, for an ADC's ulti.
that's still a huge opportunity cost loss in damage in comparison to autoattack based ADC. All ADCs scale off of AS? Like literally the only difference between him and another ADC is that he has an extra ability which scales off of AS? You're always bloodboiling the ADC anyway so like just having extra synergy is bad? I honestly don't understand what you're saying. I'm saying, he doesn't make full use of the AS boost, the same reason why Lucian doesn't build AS outside of Triforce. Majority of his combat time is spent using ability, and interweaving already 100% boosted AS due to passive, that means he's only using the AS boost off of A) his ulti, or B) the 2 seconds he has when all his abilities are on Cd, after going through full rotation. As opposed onto something like Kogmaw, who is just auto attack for days using full AS boost while in combat. that's not to say thats why TSM lost though. need strong initiate to deal with something like teemo. Nasus/nunu, not good initiate. EDIT: holy shit, dis zuna jungle so fucking scary, like wtf, such solid play. after getting doublebuff he camps wraiths for snoopeh, very smart jungler move. Yeah ZUna did really well as Olaf, Elise.....not so much small correction: Zuna did well against EG, against C9... not so much even smaller correction: Zuna did well in game where he had doublebuffs until his buffs respawn. In other game...not so much. Imo he did a great job abusing advantage. Smart camping wraiths to wreck snoopeh. Stayed in lane against kass to force kass back and allow mancloud to get advantage in lane despite being down cs after that first engagement. If you watch carefully. When mancloud respawned after giving firstblood. He's down 8 or 10 cs to pobelter. But because zuna was abusing his strength in lane and force both pobelter and snoopeh back you quickly see mancloud catch up on cs and easily surpassing pobelter. Every Kayle can abuse Kassadin without any defences, who went for straight tear after fb. So, nothing gamechanging from Zuna, even though he wasn't bad. Stop undermineing what Zuna did just because he is Zuna. What he did was really smart and i doubt every jungler in LCS would have the IQ to abuse ther advantage like he did which was surprising. This was his first time jungling competatively in a long time and he was probably top 3-4 jungling yesterday which says alot. He did well leave it at that lets see what happens today It was logic that he's gonna try to counterjungle as much as possible just because he's Olaf, lol. And i don't think that i said anywhere that Zuna was bad. It wasn't underwhelming or brilliant performance, just solid and nice. Leave it and watch him in 26 games more now. These top-tiers are quite ridiculous after 1-2 games.
HotShotGG confirmed top 1-2 mid
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On January 19 2014 01:59 Lylat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 01:53 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 01:49 Yezzus wrote:On January 19 2014 01:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 19 2014 01:23 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 21:49 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On January 18 2014 14:28 SagaZ wrote:On January 18 2014 13:43 Yezzus wrote:On January 18 2014 12:49 wei2coolman wrote:On January 18 2014 12:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
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All ADCs scale off of AS? Like literally the only difference between him and another ADC is that he has an extra ability which scales off of AS?
You're always bloodboiling the ADC anyway so like just having extra synergy is bad? I honestly don't understand what you're saying. I'm saying, he doesn't make full use of the AS boost, the same reason why Lucian doesn't build AS outside of Triforce. Majority of his combat time is spent using ability, and interweaving already 100% boosted AS due to passive, that means he's only using the AS boost off of A) his ulti, or B) the 2 seconds he has when all his abilities are on Cd, after going through full rotation. As opposed onto something like Kogmaw, who is just auto attack for days using full AS boost while in combat. that's not to say thats why TSM lost though. need strong initiate to deal with something like teemo. Nasus/nunu, not good initiate. EDIT: holy shit, dis zuna jungle so fucking scary, like wtf, such solid play. after getting doublebuff he camps wraiths for snoopeh, very smart jungler move. Yeah ZUna did really well as Olaf, Elise.....not so much small correction: Zuna did well against EG, against C9... not so much even smaller correction: Zuna did well in game where he had doublebuffs until his buffs respawn. In other game...not so much. Imo he did a great job abusing advantage. Smart camping wraiths to wreck snoopeh. Stayed in lane against kass to force kass back and allow mancloud to get advantage in lane despite being down cs after that first engagement. If you watch carefully. When mancloud respawned after giving firstblood. He's down 8 or 10 cs to pobelter. But because zuna was abusing his strength in lane and force both pobelter and snoopeh back you quickly see mancloud catch up on cs and easily surpassing pobelter. Every Kayle can abuse Kassadin without any defences, who went for straight tear after fb. So, nothing gamechanging from Zuna, even though he wasn't bad. Stop undermineing what Zuna did just because he is Zuna. What he did was really smart and i doubt every jungler in LCS would have the IQ to abuse ther advantage like he did which was surprising. This was his first time jungling competatively in a long time and he was probably top 3-4 jungling yesterday which says alot. He did well leave it at that lets see what happens today It was logic that he's gonna try to counterjungle as much as possible just because he's Olaf, lol. And i don't think that i said anywhere that Zuna was bad. It wasn't underwhelming or brilliant performance, just solid and nice. Leave it and watch him in 26 games more now. These top-tiers are quite ridiculous after 1-2 games. HotShotGG confirmed top 1-2 mid
Obviously. #GodshotdaleeGG
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the thing is that all hotshot can play is nidalee and chogath and in current meta nidalee is actually a strong mid so them not banning nidalee is just completely beyond me
Cannot wait for LCS to start *-* guess I will just watch NHL while waiting...
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On January 19 2014 04:26 Shikyo wrote:
the thing is that all hotshot can play is nidalee and chogath and in current meta nidalee is actually a strong mid so them not banning nidalee is just completely beyond me
Cannot wait for LCS to start *-* guess I will just watch NHL while waiting...
that's like a mid 2012 statement...
He actually got a respect leblanc/ziggs ban yesterday. He's only played mid ever since his retirement in Na challenger soloQ.
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I didn't watch the end of the broadcast yesterday was it known hotshot was mid? Because L1nk plays both of those champions as well.
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On January 19 2014 04:47 Slusher wrote:
I didn't watch the end of the broadcast yesterday was it known hotshot was mid? Because L1nk plays both of those champions as well.
I think your roles are locked isn't it? If HSGG is in the mid slot he has to play mid.
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perhaps it was the put the weakest link out of his comfort zone bans then, which imo are often the best bans, most real star players cannot be banned out.
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On January 19 2014 04:53 Nos- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 04:47 Slusher wrote:
I didn't watch the end of the broadcast yesterday was it known hotshot was mid? Because L1nk plays both of those champions as well. I think your roles are locked isn't it? If HSGG is in the mid slot he has to play mid.
Nah, Vulcun did some role swaps last season and they went in different spots.
Edit: Also remember when Regi and Dyrus swapped roles and still stayed in the same lane a couple times?
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On January 19 2014 04:55 Slusher wrote:
perhaps it was the put the weakest link out of his comfort zone bans then, which imo are often the best bans, most real star players cannot be banned out.
as mentioned Hotshot was seated in the middle and I watched Hai's interview with Travis and he said he knew. While he also mentioned that he didn't tell anyone (obviously^^) I assume Dig expected it.
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Here's hoping Dig can restore my faith. But, given their matchups the next two days, doubt it.
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See you guys at C9 vs CLG.
Doublelift will show everyone why he is the best adc in the world.
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On January 19 2014 04:43 AsnSensation wrote:Show nested quote +On January 19 2014 04:26 Shikyo wrote:
the thing is that all hotshot can play is nidalee and chogath and in current meta nidalee is actually a strong mid so them not banning nidalee is just completely beyond me
Cannot wait for LCS to start *-* guess I will just watch NHL while waiting... that's like a mid 2012 statement... He actually got a respect leblanc/ziggs ban yesterday. He's only played mid ever since his retirement in Na challenger soloQ.
It's actually a mid 2010 statement =P
Nidalee, Amumu, Chogath.
Still I would think that his Nidalee is more banworthy than Leblanc... I don't think Ziggs is a respect ban, he's by far the strongest AP mid this patch
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On January 19 2014 04:58 Mensol wrote:
See you guys at C9 vs CLG.
Doublelift will show everyone why he is the best adc in the world.
By facechecking a bush?
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