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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 08 2013 01:43 GMT
#1261
I realize they have many, MANY battles against each other, but still. If you are surprised or nervous for MOST games, then there's still too much randomness. Yeah, you're all right... the information coming out throughout the tournament's lifecycle will make it far more even, but there's still that chance for luck/surprise strats/mood problems to change those single games. But we'll see. Hopefully my gut reaction will be totally wrong. I'd like that.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
SimulatedAnneal
Profile Joined March 2012
765 Posts
February 08 2013 01:43 GMT
#1262
On February 08 2013 10:42 Louuster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:38 SimulatedAnneal wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:33 Slow Motion wrote:
That was the worst teamwork and coordination I've seen from a professional LoL team in quite awhile, maybe ever.


You didn't get to witness the spectacle of Armageddon at IEM Singapore I guess.


Does that even qualify as professional lol?


They were paid $2500 for last place at a tournament. Sounds pro to me.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 08 2013 01:43 GMT
#1263
On February 08 2013 10:40 Amarok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:38 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:33 Slow Motion wrote:
That was the worst teamwork and coordination I've seen from a professional LoL team in quite awhile, maybe ever.


I don't think it was that bad tbh, it's pretty common that the far better team will play a bit cocky at times and look to have more trouble winning the game than they actually do. Vulcan never had TSM on the ropes, despite TSM having some truly questionable engages. If that's the worst you've ever seen from pros, you must not have watched professional LoL very long, I can show you much worse games from professional teams.

You can show me teams that got stomped harder, but you won't find many that are on par with how they played against those early Jarvan ganks.


Sid just chillin at the tower while they chased Xin was pretty epic bad.

Let me go hide back underneath the tower that they were planning to dive in the first place.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 08 2013 01:48 GMT
#1264
On February 08 2013 10:43 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:40 Amarok wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:38 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:33 Slow Motion wrote:
That was the worst teamwork and coordination I've seen from a professional LoL team in quite awhile, maybe ever.


I don't think it was that bad tbh, it's pretty common that the far better team will play a bit cocky at times and look to have more trouble winning the game than they actually do. Vulcan never had TSM on the ropes, despite TSM having some truly questionable engages. If that's the worst you've ever seen from pros, you must not have watched professional LoL very long, I can show you much worse games from professional teams.

You can show me teams that got stomped harder, but you won't find many that are on par with how they played against those early Jarvan ganks.


Sid just chillin at the tower while they chased Xin was pretty epic bad.

Let me go hide back underneath the tower that they were planning to dive in the first place.


He lived FYI. And got extra exp from the minions, sounds worth it to me.
Hey! How you doin'?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 08 2013 01:48 GMT
#1265
On February 08 2013 10:43 AsmodeusXI wrote:
I realize they have many, MANY battles against each other, but still. If you are surprised or nervous for MOST games, then there's still too much randomness. Yeah, you're all right... the information coming out throughout the tournament's lifecycle will make it far more even, but there's still that chance for luck/surprise strats/mood problems to change those single games. But we'll see. Hopefully my gut reaction will be totally wrong. I'd like that.


I think that a league which lasts several months and gives us a massive sample size of games is a lot more reliant to which team is the best than who wins a single three day long tournament which is jam packed full of games. I mean, some of those tournaments you'd have one of the grand finalist teams playing for like eight hours before having to play in the grand finals.

There's a reason South Korea organizes like one match a week. It lets teams prepare and bring their all. It shows them playing at 100% with well thought out strategies. As the season progresses I think you'll see more and more NA and EU teams adopt Korean concepts of prepping for specific opponents that they play the following week. And at the end of the day the games that we eventually get to see should be ten times better than what we're used to out of these teams.

I think a season long league is a million times better than having to judge the strength of teams based on who can marathon game the longest without succumbing to fatigue.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 08 2013 01:49 GMT
#1266
On February 08 2013 10:48 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:43 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:40 Amarok wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:38 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:33 Slow Motion wrote:
That was the worst teamwork and coordination I've seen from a professional LoL team in quite awhile, maybe ever.


I don't think it was that bad tbh, it's pretty common that the far better team will play a bit cocky at times and look to have more trouble winning the game than they actually do. Vulcan never had TSM on the ropes, despite TSM having some truly questionable engages. If that's the worst you've ever seen from pros, you must not have watched professional LoL very long, I can show you much worse games from professional teams.

You can show me teams that got stomped harder, but you won't find many that are on par with how they played against those early Jarvan ganks.


Sid just chillin at the tower while they chased Xin was pretty epic bad.

Let me go hide back underneath the tower that they were planning to dive in the first place.


He lived FYI. And got extra exp from the minions, sounds worth it to me.


Except they both could have lived and Xin wouldn't have been so far behind.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 08 2013 01:53 GMT
#1267
On February 08 2013 10:48 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:43 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:40 Amarok wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:38 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:33 Slow Motion wrote:
That was the worst teamwork and coordination I've seen from a professional LoL team in quite awhile, maybe ever.


I don't think it was that bad tbh, it's pretty common that the far better team will play a bit cocky at times and look to have more trouble winning the game than they actually do. Vulcan never had TSM on the ropes, despite TSM having some truly questionable engages. If that's the worst you've ever seen from pros, you must not have watched professional LoL very long, I can show you much worse games from professional teams.

You can show me teams that got stomped harder, but you won't find many that are on par with how they played against those early Jarvan ganks.


Sid just chillin at the tower while they chased Xin was pretty epic bad.

Let me go hide back underneath the tower that they were planning to dive in the first place.


He lived FYI. And got extra exp from the minions, sounds worth it to me.


He also had to burn flash. And he lost the tower anyway. No real way of gauging if his flash was worth the three CS he got but I would say it probably wasn't.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 08 2013 01:54 GMT
#1268
Well not the best games today tbh. I hope EU will be better.
Off-season = best season
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 08 2013 01:56 GMT
#1269
On February 08 2013 10:53 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:48 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:43 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:40 Amarok wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:38 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:33 Slow Motion wrote:
That was the worst teamwork and coordination I've seen from a professional LoL team in quite awhile, maybe ever.


I don't think it was that bad tbh, it's pretty common that the far better team will play a bit cocky at times and look to have more trouble winning the game than they actually do. Vulcan never had TSM on the ropes, despite TSM having some truly questionable engages. If that's the worst you've ever seen from pros, you must not have watched professional LoL very long, I can show you much worse games from professional teams.

You can show me teams that got stomped harder, but you won't find many that are on par with how they played against those early Jarvan ganks.


Sid just chillin at the tower while they chased Xin was pretty epic bad.

Let me go hide back underneath the tower that they were planning to dive in the first place.


He lived FYI. And got extra exp from the minions, sounds worth it to me.


He also had to burn flash. And he lost the tower anyway. No real way of gauging if his flash was worth the three CS he got but I would say it probably wasn't.


Jarvan also flashed, and he was going to lose the tower anyways. Shen got back into that game in a big way, every little bit helped.
Hey! How you doin'?
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
February 08 2013 01:59 GMT
#1270
On February 08 2013 10:48 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:43 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:40 Amarok wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:38 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:33 Slow Motion wrote:
That was the worst teamwork and coordination I've seen from a professional LoL team in quite awhile, maybe ever.


I don't think it was that bad tbh, it's pretty common that the far better team will play a bit cocky at times and look to have more trouble winning the game than they actually do. Vulcan never had TSM on the ropes, despite TSM having some truly questionable engages. If that's the worst you've ever seen from pros, you must not have watched professional LoL very long, I can show you much worse games from professional teams.

You can show me teams that got stomped harder, but you won't find many that are on par with how they played against those early Jarvan ganks.


Sid just chillin at the tower while they chased Xin was pretty epic bad.

Let me go hide back underneath the tower that they were planning to dive in the first place.


He lived FYI. And got extra exp from the minions, sounds worth it to me.


If he wasn't going to help Xin (and I think helping would have been a dangerous call) then he should have ported immediately. The tower was lost no matter what and he could have come back and got most of the cs he got under the tower anyway. Instead he burned flash and was frankly lucky to get away with his life.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 08 2013 02:23 GMT
#1271
On February 08 2013 10:59 Amarok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 10:48 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:43 sylverfyre wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:40 Amarok wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:38 Slow Motion wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:35 Zdrastochye wrote:
On February 08 2013 10:33 Slow Motion wrote:
That was the worst teamwork and coordination I've seen from a professional LoL team in quite awhile, maybe ever.


I don't think it was that bad tbh, it's pretty common that the far better team will play a bit cocky at times and look to have more trouble winning the game than they actually do. Vulcan never had TSM on the ropes, despite TSM having some truly questionable engages. If that's the worst you've ever seen from pros, you must not have watched professional LoL very long, I can show you much worse games from professional teams.

You can show me teams that got stomped harder, but you won't find many that are on par with how they played against those early Jarvan ganks.


Sid just chillin at the tower while they chased Xin was pretty epic bad.

Let me go hide back underneath the tower that they were planning to dive in the first place.


He lived FYI. And got extra exp from the minions, sounds worth it to me.


If he wasn't going to help Xin (and I think helping would have been a dangerous call) then he should have ported immediately. The tower was lost no matter what and he could have come back and got most of the cs he got under the tower anyway. Instead he burned flash and was frankly lucky to get away with his life.


There was no way he was getting those minions once he ported. If you recall Jarvan stayed and pushed with that whole wave with bot. With Xin dead he'd be going into a 1v3 to get the minions? Hell no. He got a couple extra cs and traded flashes. Under the duress of that situation, I'd rate that a "good" play.
Hey! How you doin'?
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 08 2013 02:35 GMT
#1272
Rewatching CLG vs TSM as I woke up too late to watch it, damn Rivington makes so many bad calls :/ .

TSM MIGHT HAVE THE DAMAGE TO WIN THIS (Meanwhile CLG 5-0).
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 08 2013 02:38 GMT
#1273
On February 08 2013 11:35 schmutttt wrote:
Rewatching CLG vs TSM as I woke up too late to watch it, damn Rivington makes so many bad calls :/ .

TSM MIGHT HAVE THE DAMAGE TO WIN THIS (Meanwhile CLG 5-0).


Go watch TSM vs Vulcan and fast forward to the end for Riv's turkey gobble.
Hey! How you doin'?
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 08 2013 02:40 GMT
#1274


This is all I could think of when I heard Riv's battle call.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 08 2013 02:41 GMT
#1275
On February 08 2013 11:38 Zdrastochye wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2013 11:35 schmutttt wrote:
Rewatching CLG vs TSM as I woke up too late to watch it, damn Rivington makes so many bad calls :/ .

TSM MIGHT HAVE THE DAMAGE TO WIN THIS (Meanwhile CLG 5-0).


Go watch TSM vs Vulcan and fast forward to the end for Riv's turkey gobble.


I saw it, it was like the priest from Age of Empires lol
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-08 02:56:29
February 08 2013 02:55 GMT
#1276
Youtube VOD is pretty much unwatchable for me. Continuously just jumps forward several seconds, often right as a fight breaks out. I don't like that this starts in the middle of the afternoon and then the VOD is poor. Guess I'll just read the thread results now. Tomorrow will be much nicer.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 08 2013 03:11 GMT
#1277
On February 08 2013 11:40 JBright wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-qS82lXtk

This is all I could think of when I heard Riv's battle call.

I thought the exact same thing, best casting moment ever lol.

4 for 4 in my predictions today, although it's not like I predicted any major upsets. Everything went pretty much as expected. Curse was trying to give me a heart attack though, they had the map advantage like all game long, but dig just kept winning team fights. Still great Day 1 overall, so far it's just as awesome as I expected.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
February 08 2013 03:33 GMT
#1278
does any1 have the VODS for today's matches? the one at esports.com is edited and lots of gaps during teamfight....
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 08 2013 03:37 GMT
#1279


Is it the same as this one?
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
February 08 2013 03:40 GMT
#1280
^ yes thats the one that has the cut-off for some parts and its annoying.
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