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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14140 Posts
January 20 2012 14:11 GMT
#1201
It will be epic to see a good USA vs russia rivalry. it looks like they are the top dogs at the event though I dare say that I'd giv the nod to M5.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 14:12 GMT
#1202
This troll Phreak...

First interview question "Who do you think is going to win?"

zzzzzzz
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
January 20 2012 14:12 GMT
#1203
On January 20 2012 23:11 sermokala wrote:
It will be epic to see a good USA vs russia rivalry. it looks like they are the top dogs at the event though I dare say that I'd giv the nod to M5.

Yeah that was a much more impressive win than any of TSM's. I would love to see Chaox and Xpecial take on M5's bot lane.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#1204
On January 20 2012 23:08 Slayer91 wrote:
The AS blues means he favours early game speed over mid/late strength on shyvana. The rush to razors and stealing buffs points to the same thing. Wriggles isn't that amazing on shyvana except for speed on buff camps and dragon which aren't as hard in new jungle but it looks like he really likes to take them down fast.

He was going wriggles/mercs/phage/wits FYI, in match history his last build finished the wits.

There's no out banning this guy. He can play around 5 jungles at world class level it seems. Another 5 or so that don't get played any more. He doesn't play rammus though. He doesn't like the gank dependent junglers that much, not a big fan of tree either.


Jungle Xin, so confused.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#1205
On January 20 2012 23:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 23:02 dooraven wrote:
Lithuanian team.

mTl.tt is probably the 3rd or 4th strongest team at the moment in EUW, it's composed of Angush, Svenskern, extinct, Prepared and Sleeper.

Angush is the only top laner in the game that has consistently given wickd trouble and has beaten him several times (it's about even right now). The unique thing about mTl.tt is that they run a battle botlane which is according to krepo (clgeu's support) "retarded as hell to lane against". They're very strong.


Battle botlane... is that someone like Goose's Jarvan/Leona combo?
Round off (your) current top 3 please?

Thanks for your answers, dooraven.


No what I mean is typical AD/Support with Ignite/Exhaust instead of cv/heal and consisting of super agressive lanes like sivir taric or caitlyn nunu etc

Top 3 would probably be

1/2 M5/CLGeu (they're even atm)
3 mTl.tt / aAa (not really sure about aAa's current form atm)

I don't know how well aAa have been doing besides their win v M5 (then they lost to MYM)

Fnatic are in a huge slump at the moment, they should return to glory when they start practising again (which should be before hannover hopefully)

SK has problems that they need to fix.

Go go Alliance.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:16:06
January 20 2012 14:15 GMT
#1206
On January 20 2012 23:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 23:08 Slayer91 wrote:
The AS blues means he favours early game speed over mid/late strength on shyvana. The rush to razors and stealing buffs points to the same thing. Wriggles isn't that amazing on shyvana except for speed on buff camps and dragon which aren't as hard in new jungle but it looks like he really likes to take them down fast.

He was going wriggles/mercs/phage/wits FYI, in match history his last build finished the wits.

There's no out banning this guy. He can play around 5 jungles at world class level it seems. Another 5 or so that don't get played any more. He doesn't play rammus though. He doesn't like the gank dependent junglers that much, not a big fan of tree either.


Jungle Xin, so confused.


I've always been sucessful with jungle xin when I played him in my old TL.EU lineup, but he lacks a little depth. In teamfights there's only so much you can do.
fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
January 20 2012 14:17 GMT
#1207
On January 20 2012 23:15 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 23:13 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 20 2012 23:08 Slayer91 wrote:
The AS blues means he favours early game speed over mid/late strength on shyvana. The rush to razors and stealing buffs points to the same thing. Wriggles isn't that amazing on shyvana except for speed on buff camps and dragon which aren't as hard in new jungle but it looks like he really likes to take them down fast.

He was going wriggles/mercs/phage/wits FYI, in match history his last build finished the wits.

There's no out banning this guy. He can play around 5 jungles at world class level it seems. Another 5 or so that don't get played any more. He doesn't play rammus though. He doesn't like the gank dependent junglers that much, not a big fan of tree either.


Jungle Xin, so confused.


I've always been sucessful with jungle xin when I played him in my old TL.EU lineup, but he lacks a little depth. In teamfights there's only so much you can do.


just dive the carry all day lol.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 20 2012 14:18 GMT
#1208
It's a matter of timing on that, but yes basically.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:25:12
January 20 2012 14:20 GMT
#1209
On January 20 2012 22:49 DanielZKlein wrote:
Thanks guys! I was afraid my questions would be too technical, so I threw in the TSM flame-bait (didn't go for it. Good guy Alex) and the "do a shoutout in Russian".

I'm super excited about this team. So happy the hype wasn't premature. That scarra snipe over the cliff, I almost fell of my chair.

M5 - Sypher next. Uhm. I just gave lounet my condolences ;P Honestly, I do not think Sypher have any chance at all (I'd never say this on stream, but there it is). I'll do Dig - aAa after, probably deciding the second place in the group.

EDIT to add: we'll keep doing interviews as long as the games are this quick. Post here if you got questions and we'll try to work them in (provided we see the questions in time)

If I were you, I'd try to focus a little bit on the top lane. Skyyart can go in hard carry mode, he has already shawn that, and the M5 top didn't seem that impressive. This could be the lane where important things happen.
Mid should easily go to M5.
Bott could go either way, but definitly M5 is favored.

And then... There's the jungle !
The legend of Darien lives on
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
January 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#1210
Darien outlaned a kennen with irelia, proceeded to have highest gold and best score in the team. Don't know what more you wnat.
fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
January 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#1211
Darien's riven is really really strong. i hope he plays her so you can see. i've seen him hard carry with her.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:24:40
January 20 2012 14:24 GMT
#1212
On January 20 2012 23:21 Slayer91 wrote:
Darien outlaned a kennen with irelia, proceeded to have highest gold and best score in the team. Don't know what more you wnat.

A lot of this gold and score came from the teamfights, which he handled indeed wonderfuly. But we didn't see the laning so to speak, and Skyyart really has been a very good top laner for a long time.

But it's more that I think the 2 other lanes will lose :p
The legend of Darien lives on
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:28:26
January 20 2012 14:27 GMT
#1213
Bans:

M5 (first): Rammus, Shaco, Cass
Sypher: Nunu, Karthus, Irelia
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:27:45
January 20 2012 14:27 GMT
#1214
M5 bans rammus because Diamond doesn't like him as a jungler but he's strong. Same with shaco.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 14:27 GMT
#1215
Nunu insta ban.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:31:52
January 20 2012 14:28 GMT
#1216
M5 Bans: Rammy, Shaco, CassiOPeia
Sypher Bans: Nunununu, Karthus, Irelia

M5 Picks: Instalock Sona, Ryze, Shyvananana, Kenne, GP
Sypher Picks: Morganananana, Riven, Vayne, Lee Sin, Janna

M5 no range AD? GP BOTLANE! I saw this on SaintVicious's stream!

And Vayne+Janna HAHAHAHAHA
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:31:45
January 20 2012 14:28 GMT
#1217
Picks:

M5 (first): Sona, Ryze Shyvana, Kennen GP
Sypher: Morg Riven, Lee Sin Vayne, Janna
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 14:31 GMT
#1218
AD Kennen?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 14:32:11
January 20 2012 14:31 GMT
#1219
AD Kennen! A man can dream...

Looks like it is, heal on Kennen :O
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
January 20 2012 14:31 GMT
#1220
Wow.

M5 bringing new meta!
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