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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:30:53
January 20 2012 13:30 GMT
#1161
Best. Fucking. Interview. Ever.

Mark me a M5 fan now.

Edit: Solid questions too, Zenon. <3
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fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:32:05
January 20 2012 13:30 GMT
#1162
On January 20 2012 22:30 NeoIllusions wrote:
Best. Fucking. Interview. Ever.

Mark me a M5 fan now.


we should start a fan club.

edit: yes, i agree. Zenon's questions were great. it allowed Alex to show us his knowledge of the game!

double edit: 40 min for next game -- Sypher vs M5!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 20 2012 13:31 GMT
#1163
I thought shyvana really carried that game.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 20 2012 13:31 GMT
#1164
40mins break before next game...good night I'm not gonna make it, grats to m5 for showing the best executed team game of this tournament so far.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:32:18
January 20 2012 13:31 GMT
#1165
On January 20 2012 22:28 starfries wrote:
Wow Alex has some of the best analysis I've ever heard in an interview from a pro.

I like the idea of the initiator being the shotcaller. Maybe we'll see other teams start to do this too?

Makes sense if you want to play a tempo caller. Sometimes there's no time to tell the stunbot on your team to stun. Just do it and go for it.

M5 seems really awesome. Got a fan out of me now! :D

Questions a lot better than yesterday too. Some really great answers!
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
-Kato-
Profile Joined June 2010
Spain1146 Posts
January 20 2012 13:32 GMT
#1166
On January 20 2012 22:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
M5 Alex made the call for that game because of Ryze snare.

Champion with initiating CC calls for M5. No one main shotcaller.


That is so clever I can't believe I hadn't heard this anywhere before. I jump onto the M5 fanclub too. They are GOOD.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:33 GMT
#1167
On January 20 2012 22:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I thought shyvana really carried that game.


Item-wise and damage, Shy wasn't really a carry but she definitely had the biggest impact that game. Gave great openings to Ryze and Irelia to get farmed.

M5 didn't even need Kog or EMPIRE really.
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necrosed
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil885 Posts
January 20 2012 13:33 GMT
#1168
I've never been much of a Dignitas fan. With M5 doing those cool strats, I'm very inclined to root for them.

M5 hwaiting!
Shadow of his former self.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:34:51
January 20 2012 13:33 GMT
#1169
Just for the record diamondprox just played the best jungle I have ever seen since the new jungle came out.

In terms of being effective shyvana has no cc so if people choose to get zoned and let their front line die then she's done her job. People only die to her when it's an even teamfight.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 20 2012 13:34 GMT
#1170
On January 20 2012 22:33 Slayer91 wrote:
Just for the record diamondprox just played the best jungle I have ever seen since the new jungle came out.

I love Shyvananana even more now than I used to. <3
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:36:10
January 20 2012 13:35 GMT
#1171
On January 20 2012 22:33 Slayer91 wrote:
Just for the record diamondprox just played the best jungle I have ever seen since the new jungle came out.


Never watched a EU stream before (no Fnatic, no SK, etc) but I'm eager to watch M5 on Own3d next week.
huehue. :3

Edit: Anyone on EU want to look up Diamond's Shy runes for me? tyty~
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dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 20 2012 13:36 GMT
#1172
Diamondprox is the best jungler in EU right now (followed by Snoopeh then Cyandie probably), the control he has over all of his games in scims and stuff is awesome, he also knows how to play shyvanna extremely well (CLGeu tried replicating this but no results, lol).
Go go Alliance.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:37 GMT
#1173
On January 20 2012 22:36 dooraven wrote:
Diamondprox is the best jungler in EU right now (followed by Snoopeh then Cyandie probably), the control he has over all of his games in scims and stuff is awesome, he also knows how to play shyvanna extremely well (CLGeu tried replicating this but no results, lol).


I can't imagine many people replicating Diamond's results. Shy's greatest strength is her amazing jangle speed but there so many nuances to her to make sure good.

I never really understood Shy ganks due to lack of CC but I'm going to analyzes these games more later for sure. :X
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
January 20 2012 13:38 GMT
#1174
They played amazing.

The interview was awesome, too. Alex seems like a really cool/nice guy with alot of knowledge not only about the game but also about the competition both EU and US.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:39:55
January 20 2012 13:39 GMT
#1175
You use high movement speed and red buff to gank overextended people. You just don't take ganks against people who aren't overextended. Swain tries to push an advantage in mid, he dies. Nobody died to lee sin ganks even though he ganks much better. Honestly her ganks are only slightly weaker than a pheonix udyr the 1 second stun doesn't count for a whole lot.

You can also rely on other peoples CC in lane obviously. Shyvanna isn't a jungler for her ganking, but she can still pull it off.

Snoopeh and cyanide still play more like oddone in the jungle so they aren't really on the same level.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14105 Posts
January 20 2012 13:40 GMT
#1176
I think she did really well getting an advantage until ryze could come along and carry the game. kog maw won the lane really hard against graves. the early early dragon was pretty good and the early taric pressure was a great start but they never really got off the ground after that.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:41 GMT
#1177
On January 20 2012 22:38 Keniji wrote:
They played amazing.

The interview was awesome, too. Alex seems like a really cool/nice guy with alot of knowledge not only about the game but also about the competition both EU and US.


Ditto.

I have somewhat mixed feelings about M5's manner wards though. And there's hearsay about M5 trashtalking other teams (both NA and EU) after scrims.

:<<<<
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nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 20 2012 13:42 GMT
#1178
On January 20 2012 22:41 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 22:38 Keniji wrote:
They played amazing.

The interview was awesome, too. Alex seems like a really cool/nice guy with alot of knowledge not only about the game but also about the competition both EU and US.


Ditto.

I have somewhat mixed feelings about M5's manner wards though. And there's hearsay about M5 trashtalking other teams (both NA and EU) after scrims.

:<<<<


They also spammed "Go Home" to the team they beat in the qualifiers.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:42 GMT
#1179
On January 20 2012 22:39 Slayer91 wrote:
You use high movement speed and red buff to gank overextended people. You just don't take ganks against people who aren't overextended. Swain tries to push an advantage in mid, he dies. Nobody died to lee sin ganks even though he ganks much better. Honestly her ganks are only slightly weaker than a pheonix udyr the 1 second stun doesn't count for a whole lot.

You can also rely on other peoples CC in lane obviously. Shyvanna isn't a jungler for her ganking, but she can still pull it off.

Snoopeh and cyanide still play more like oddone in the jungle so they aren't really on the same level.


Counter jungling is highest priority?
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Jokn
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany14 Posts
January 20 2012 13:43 GMT
#1180
On January 20 2012 22:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 22:33 Slayer91 wrote:
Just for the record diamondprox just played the best jungle I have ever seen since the new jungle came out.


Never watched a EU stream before (no Fnatic, no SK, etc) but I'm eager to watch M5 on Own3d next week.
huehue. :3

Edit: Anyone on EU want to look up Diamond's Shy runes for me? tyty~


His runepage "drakon" is: ad marks, armor seals, as glyphs, ad quints.

I like m5s play, but i really dislike their bm :/
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