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At any point of IEM Kiev, if you think of an interesting byline, please drop a sentence in the Pro Scene thread. (e.g. "Day 2: M5 hype was everything people expected")

At the end of the month, I'll catalogue the results of Kiev but also any interesting facts or events that happen over the course of the tournament.

Thanks.

Neo, 20.1.2012
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 20 2012 13:19 GMT
#1141
hopefully they don't make us wait an hour for the next game
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:24:42
January 20 2012 13:19 GMT
#1142
Amazed that a protect-the-Koggles strat worked with Kog building Wriggles, 3xDblades and a PD, with no BF items.

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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 20 2012 13:19 GMT
#1143
Koggles with PD before any BF item...?
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Rush042
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada121 Posts
January 20 2012 13:19 GMT
#1144
Those snipes on ANY target out of position were amazing. It wasn't even Ryze prison into the team following up, it was instant focus from the entire team. Some of the most incredible play I have ever seen.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:20 GMT
#1145
On January 20 2012 22:19 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Koggles with PD before any BF item...?


Team was so far ahead. PD is ok when you have a skill like W.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:20:59
January 20 2012 13:20 GMT
#1146
On January 20 2012 22:19 Haasts wrote:
Amazed that a protect-the-Koggles strat worked with Kog building Wriggles, 3xDblades and a PD, with no BF items.


The game was over with only 1 dragon fight basically and that was pretty even. Dragon and baron control won the game without any decisive teamfights where teamcomp mattered. Shyvanas oracles and their ward control sniped crucial kills to give them the game for free after their sucessful counter jungle and ganks early.
Kog could have went rageblade and they would have won.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:20 GMT
#1147
On January 20 2012 22:19 Rush042 wrote:
Those snipes on ANY target out of position were amazing. It wasn't even Ryze prison into the team following up, it was instant focus from the entire team. Some of the most incredible play I have ever seen.


M5 executes champions like no one I've ever seen.
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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 20 2012 13:21 GMT
#1148
Amazing impact that early oracles on shyvana, gave them 100% free baron no contest.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
January 20 2012 13:23 GMT
#1149
On January 20 2012 22:20 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 22:19 Rush042 wrote:
Those snipes on ANY target out of position were amazing. It wasn't even Ryze prison into the team following up, it was instant focus from the entire team. Some of the most incredible play I have ever seen.


M5 executes champions like no one I've ever seen.

It fits really well with their active playstyle that's aimed at controlling tempo thanks to picks like Ryze, Shyvananana and Nunu. Those two champs force you to respond to them and this lets them pick off people out of position. Ryze snares, Shyvanana is a huge distraction and Nunu ult is area denial and forces you to spend time not doing damage.

Much harder to respond to plays than to make them.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
napo
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania622 Posts
January 20 2012 13:23 GMT
#1150
Truly amazing showing from M5. Guess a lot of people are impressed right now.

On a side-note, stream lagging for everyone?
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:23 GMT
#1151
Alex giving boss analysis already with first question.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:24 GMT
#1152
LOL Zenon

"What do you ban vs M5?"

zzzz
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:25:33
January 20 2012 13:25 GMT
#1153
Alex criticizing Scarra's lack of wards early in mid lane. Giving up FB and not getting ward when coming back to lane.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:26 GMT
#1154
M5 Alex made the call for that game because of Ryze snare.

Champion with initiating CC calls for M5. No one main shotcaller.
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fuzzbox
Profile Joined February 2010
235 Posts
January 20 2012 13:28 GMT
#1155
Alex's knowledge of the game is pretty awesome.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:28 GMT
#1156
Alex says SK should have let TSM take LB because it's predictable, then counter LB themselves. Instead of steal-picking LB.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:29:42
January 20 2012 13:28 GMT
#1157
Wow Alex has some of the best analysis I've ever heard in an interview from a pro.

I like the idea of the initiator being the shotcaller. Maybe we'll see other teams start to do this too?
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 20 2012 13:29 GMT
#1158
M5 es real unimpressed of TSM. M5 respects aAa than TSM.

Real.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14047 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:31:31
January 20 2012 13:29 GMT
#1159
these are good questions. very interesting about the shotcalling and it switching depending on what champ is best for that. the guys english is on that border of being good and broken but he does a really good job of recovering when he doesn't know something.

russia vs USA GO GO GO

Edit: Very nice ending trying to feed in a special tacktics reference. really a buzzkill with 40 minute breaks but not much they can do about it. I really liked how they showed old games during the break.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 13:30:57
January 20 2012 13:29 GMT
#1160
Zenon: This was your first game. It went well for you!
Alex Ich: *did not catch answer*

Zenon: Did you expect that Taric gank?
Alex Ich: Was surprising. Had to play safe as a result. But then his Swain aggressiveness made him die.

Zenon: What champs do we have to ban to lock you out?
Alex Ich: I won't tell.
Both: Hahahahaha

Zenon: Tell us about the Shyvanananana.
Alex Ich: Shyvanananana is his favourite champion. Not his strongest, but his favourite.
Zenon: What could Scarra have done midlane when he was so behind?
Alex Ich: If you die just one time it's pretty hard. Vs Ryze it's GG. Flash, Snare, you die. The problem was he didn't have ward mid. After he died, I got 2 wards he got none. So he lost lane.

Zenon: What did you think of that early dragon?
Alex Ich: Diamond got really angry and flamed haha. Sometimes we have no ward, sometimes we have one and it really depends.
Zenon: Dignitas said they had a strat that would only work once. That was it.
Alex Ich: We were all scared. Where is Lee Sin, where is Lee Sin? And then we see Dragon gone and we say Oh, there is Lee Sin.

Zenon: Your team is very good at executing and catching people out. Who makes the calls?
Alex Ich: When I play Ryze, I make the calls because I have the snare. It depends. If you have the snare or stun, you make the call because you catch people out.

Zenon: Did you watch any games yesterday?
Alex Ich: We missed the first two games yesterday because we were eating and driving. We really wanted to watch SK v TSM.
Zenon: What do you think of the Sion?
Alex Ich: Regi plays a lot of LeBlanc. When you play a lot of one champion, you know who counters it. So Oce's idea to get extra ban by picking LB was bad. He should have played differently as well. Oce thought about it but he made... how to say. He didn't play right. Should have let TSM take LB and counter it.
Zenon: There's a lot between you and TSM. TSM is looking scary. Chaox's bottom lane always win. Are you afraid?
Alex Ich: Hahaha. *shakes head. We're more afraid of aAa than TSM.
Zenon: What's your prediction for Group B?
Alex Ich: We will come first. aAa will come second.

Zenon: Any shoutouts? To Russian fans in Russian?
Alex Ich: *insert Russian*
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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