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GranDim
Canada1214 Posts
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HAL9OOO
United States176 Posts
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nlin
United States7 Posts
I initially followed Chaox's TSM guide where he advocates maxing Q instead of W because the harass is superior. I find that I can usually dominate the lane / push them out with Q harass if it's NOT Soraka as the bot lane support. Graves passive + Soraka = 2gewd and I couldn't push him out after maxing W > Q. How would I go about beating this lane, or do I just out fear him? (Disclaimer: exp is 1400-1500 range, Q resetting the swing timer was a big clue in your guide, maybe MF will be my new AD) | ||
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speKter
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Generate note - I realize I still owe the community some VODs. This is my project for this weekend  | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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olabaz
United States298 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
you put the D(cup) in AD huehuehue | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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arb
Noobville17920 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:27 Ryuu314 wrote: wat's the best skill order for mf? I know most people max E last, but idk i usually skill up W then Q myself. R whenever possible obv | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On December 31 2012 08:32 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: The best build is still BT -> LW with zeals as needed, MF's ult in teamfights is absolutely insane since the cast time removal. This. It doesn't really take skill. If you are not too far behind BT -> LW -> Cleaver is just too strong. Midgame melting everything. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On January 03 2013 11:52 arb wrote: I know most people max E last, but idk i usually skill up W then Q myself. R whenever possible obv Depends on how soon you think teamfights are starting and how you think lane phase is going to go. In lanes where you're going to be trading in longer exchanges or when you think teamfights will break out skill w and in lanes where you're going to be harassing a lot skill q. I used to go wqwewr R>W>E>Q always but nowadays I'm doing QWQEQR R>Q>W>E a lot more. Start leveling w as soon as you think teamfights are going to break out soon. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
Your ultimate is devastating but with that advantage, you also have a weakness, your ultimate is pretty much your only source of damage you have no crit you dont have AS. You will probably do ~400 dmg/hit which is just really really really low. So I would suggest you only taking this itembuild if your team has a lot of aoe lockdown (amumu, sona, sejuani and so on) In the game you linked I think a standart itembuild would have been better, the opposing team should have been able to jump you with Nautilus, Veigar and Jayce + your team doesnt have that much/easy to hit lockdown | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On March 15 2013 10:52 Ente wrote: With that itembuild (or similar itembuilds) you are simply an ultimate bot nothing else, nothing more. Besides the CDR boots that is one if the builds which is/was used by MF players. Your ultimate is devastating but with that advantage, you also have a weakness, your ultimate is pretty much your only source of damage you have no crit you dont have AS. You will probably do ~400 dmg/hit which is just really really really low. So I would suggest you only taking this itembuild if your team has a lot of aoe lockdown (amumu, sona, sejuani and so on) In the game you linked I think a standart itembuild would have been better, the opposing team should have been able to jump you with Nautilus, Veigar and Jayce + your team doesnt have that much/easy to hit lockdown i think that's a very solid team for that build, that front line is extremely protective and none of the diving threats they have should be able to get through it. The only thing he had to fear was nautilus ult or a flash taric stun interrupt really. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On March 15 2013 23:28 AsianEcksDragon wrote: The only AS item really worth building now imo are botrk, nashor, sotd, and trinity force, all of which are terrible on MF. I really find it hard to justify purchasing berserker, pd, or shiv because they are ~400g for a mere +10%. Even the traditional PD-rushers like Vayne are giving up PD in favor of botrk. This build is a little dependent on her ult but you are also underestimating her auto which deals just as much as any AS stacking champs due to the armor pen and significantly higher AD. Going to have to disagree. If you have an IE, PD is VERY GOOD. Like, beyond good. BORK has a major caveat of not scaling super well with multiplicative stats. It's good, but it's mostly good in a vacuum - on 6 item builds, unless the opponent has a downright silly amount of health, BT will look better because it multiplies better with IE+PD. On March 15 2013 09:36 AsianEcksDragon wrote: What does everyone think of this no-crit MF build? I seem to have no problem destroying an entire team without crit. Having those extra armpen from cleaver and 2 BT works really well with mf's kit imo. This would probably be even more effective if the other team stacked armor instead of health. I really think your second BT has no reason to NOT be an infinity edge instead. You're stacking tons of % ArPen when the only armor items on the entire enemy team are a Zhonya's, an Aegis, and a now-nerfed Taric aura. You could have crushed just as hard if you just got the BC or the LW (pick one) while also crushing harder with your autoattacks (though, that team is so squishy you probably nearly 100->0 them just with your ult.) Also, what's your hatred of berserker greaves? I really don't think 15% CDR can match up to 20% AS, especially early game when MF likes to look for fights in lane, and remember that she fights most effectively by quickly stacking up to 4 stacks of impure shots (even if you're maxing Q first) and abusing her high damage like that. Furthermore, MF is limited more by mana than by CDR for her lane-harass with Double-up. CDR isn't going to accomplish much as far as Double-up harass goes. Your ult isn't one you're just going to blow on cooldown either - it takes some patience to get those good ults that will actually result in kills / secured objectives. For reference, boots1-> greaves is 550 gold for 20% AS (and the increased MS of having boots2) Boots2 is MUCH more movespeed than Zephyr (it's not even close), and if you're getting Furor, you clearly seem to value movespeed for kiting? So why would you touch CDR boots with a 10 foot pole if you find it hard to justify the 900g pricetag of greaves? | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
She seems to be incredibly strong in lane, incredibly strong in teamfights, can build pure armor shred so can damage tanks, and can still do damn good damage to tanks with just ad/arp items. I don't get it, why isn't she in every single game. You literally go into lane with a stupidly strong champion, then if you land r in teamfights you usually win. (currently 11-2 with MF in Diamond 1) Edit: I think the 2 loses were when I just bought her and q max I've been going flash barrier, skill order r>e>w>q with q or e level 1, w level 4. Max e first for stupidly strong e>r combos at 6, and great waveclear/farming potential, + its good in trades, forces them to back off while slowed, sets up stuff for your support, and in general is just a 3 second duration 52% huge aoe slow that does good damage. When I tried q max couldnt sustain the mana, e max way easier on your mana pool, just using q/w when your engaged hard, Build is just dorans or longsword 2 start, then just bt/lw/bc/defensive item/bt, get tier 1 boots when you have the gold and don't bother upgrading them for a long time. 21/9/0 masteries, 15 ad/armor/mr runes. MF just seems broken in soloq atm, massive impact on game, safe laning, and very easy to get kills and capitalize on mistakes in lane to snowball it, and just press r to win mid to late game. Edit: for what tier 2 boots to get the choice is really inconsequential, mercs or tabis or lucidity or zerks are all decent. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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