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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On March 21 2013 05:27 wussleeQ wrote: hey dae is your name dae in game with an accent? your name looks familiar and i feel like i played with you before :3 Daì | ||
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Ente
Germany1795 Posts
Honestly I don't know what the best lvl1-3 skill order is, I've been going e q e, but I generally play pretty passive early, and not having q/w at level 1 has hurt me a few times. I dunno why do you pick mf if you want to play passive but interesting thought might try it out once I get enough IP on my smurf (I just dont want to wait so long for games first world problems ) For the record: I actually usually skill r> w > q > e at the moment (I get e either not at all or at 8 or 10) but I pretty much used every skillorder  used r > w > e>q before the q buffs and also tried q max first ^.^ | ||
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mockturtle
United States220 Posts
On March 20 2013 14:31 dae wrote: So, an update. Currently 15-2 with MF in ranked, and at 96 LP in diamond 1. E max is just so safe and strong in lane, and the MF just ults well in teamfights and does more then their ad carry. Build still BT/LW/BC/defensive item/BT, with only getting boots 1, usually start dorans. Mf going to carry me to challenger >.<. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/fvu6FAZ.png) Note: Bad scores are because I'm playing people that are probably better then I am. i used to play any role but adc, but once i noticed adc wasn't that popular anymore i decided to pick it up. at first i only owned ashe so it was a little tricky, but i picked up MF shortly after and i had a similar "omgeasy" experience (though only through silver->gold) i always went r>q>w. for a while i was doing dorans->bt->cleaver->shiv, but recently i've really been digging rushing the statikk shiv straight awaywith the optional second dorans en route. maxing e first sounds interesting, i look forward to trying it out. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On March 21 2013 05:43 Complete wrote: Stupid question Impure shots, by stacking 4x does it mean at level 5 it will end up doing 56 extra attack damage after you AA a target 4x? What happens if you switch targets? What happens if you activate it for the attack speed? If you activate you get the AS + the healing debuff(if thats still on there) i think it stops when you switch targets though. and yes it stacks up to 4 times, so you'll do an extra 56 magic damage(before resists) | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On March 21 2013 11:22 arb wrote: If you activate you get the AS + the healing debuff(if thats still on there) i think it stops when you switch targets though. and yes it stacks up to 4 times, so you'll do an extra 56 magic damage(before resists) the impure shots thing is a stacking debuff placed onto whatever you're attacking. So if you stack it up on target A and start attackign target B, you won't get the bonus damage on B, but then if you go back to attacking target A you'll still get the bonus damage on A assuming the debuff hasn't worn off. The debuff doesn't last very long though (it's somethign like 5 seconds). | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On March 21 2013 08:01 Ente wrote: I dunno why do you pick mf if you want to play passive but interesting thought might try it out once I get enough IP on my smurf (I just dont want to wait so long for games first world problems ) For the record: I actually usually skill r> w > q > e at the moment (I get e either not at all or at 8 or 10) but I pretty much used every skillorder used r > w > e>q before the q buffs and also tried q max first ^.^ Passive is the wrong word for it I think.. It's more like I play safe and don't take many risks. Also, E max isn't that strong until level 5 or so, as it's too easy getting out of rank 1/2 of e, so forcing fights is a bad idea that early(unless you have like a leona support). I pick MF b/c a good E->R in a teamfight wins it, and shes good against people that stack armor early due to not having to build crit/as to be effective, which smooths out her power curve. Also maxing E gives her 3 really good skills to use, where as maxing anything else gives only 2, as E without many points in it sucks, where as q gives alot for just 1 point. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On March 21 2013 13:20 dae wrote: Passive is the wrong word for it I think.. It's more like I play safe and don't take many risks. Also, E max isn't that strong until level 5 or so, as it's too easy getting out of rank 1/2 of e, so forcing fights is a bad idea that early(unless you have like a leona support). I pick MF b/c a good E->R in a teamfight wins it, and shes good against people that stack armor early due to not having to build crit/as to be effective, which smooths out her power curve. Also maxing E gives her 3 really good skills to use, where as maxing anything else gives only 2, as E without many points in it sucks, where as q gives alot for just 1 point. The MF E max build is one of the best "new" builds I've ever used. I'm currently 6-0 with it, thanks so much. There's just so much utility, and it just autowins your lane for you. Preventing jungler ganks, stopping the other adc from running away in a fight- since no one but Draven can duel MF with E-W. Really really solid. Then once you get 6, you can shred people with E-R... it's just awesome. I have been deviating slightly, and building Cutlass->BT->BotRK. Makes her a real pain, and the active is nice for trapping people in E-R. Since Q-Auto is two procs of BotRK, it helps with mitigating the burst loss of not maxing Q. | ||
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
Sure, it's ez win lane, but that's all of MF, so meh. Maybe good with leona, proc them passives 24/7 Also less manaintesive from my experience. It's decent I guess. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On March 22 2013 00:20 Dandel Ion wrote: Played a couple games with E max, and I fail to see the distinct advantage over other buildpaths. Sure, it's ez win lane, but that's all of MF, so meh. Maybe good with leona, proc them passives 24/7 Also less manaintesive from my experience. It's decent I guess. I believe you might be downplaying how good "ez win lane" is. Of course mid and lategame are important, but what I really enjoy about the build is how far ahead you can get of the opposing adc. This is extra awesome against champs that have a harder time playing from behind, like Ashe or Kog. | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On March 22 2013 00:20 Dandel Ion wrote: Played a couple games with E max, and I fail to see the distinct advantage over other buildpaths. Sure, it's ez win lane, but that's all of MF, so meh. Maybe good with leona, proc them passives 24/7 Also less manaintesive from my experience. It's decent I guess. When you have a BT, or even vamp and dorans, there are 2 main things that can cause you to back. 1, you have low hp and its too risky to lifesteal, and 2, you are oom, which can lead to 1. If you don't run out of mana its pretty safe to always be autoing, so you rarely get pushed out of lane, which is huge. | ||
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mockturtle
United States220 Posts
On March 21 2013 09:01 mockturtle wrote: i used to play any role but adc, but once i noticed adc wasn't that popular anymore i decided to pick it up. at first i only owned ashe so it was a little tricky, but i picked up MF shortly after and i had a similar "omgeasy" experience (though only through silver->gold) i always went r>q>w. for a while i was doing dorans->bt->cleaver->shiv, but recently i've really been digging rushing the statikk shiv straight awaywith the optional second dorans en route. maxing e first sounds interesting, i look forward to trying it out. after one try i'm confident in saying that this is genius and i'm embarassed never having tried it without being prompted. also i think it synergizes well with rushing statikk shiv (or should i say, rushing statikk shiv isn't hurt by it) since it doesn't scale with AD. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On March 22 2013 01:16 mockturtle wrote: after one try i'm confident in saying that this is genius and i'm embarassed never having tried it without being prompted. also i think it synergizes well with rushing statikk shiv (or should i say, rushing statikk shiv isn't hurt by it) since it doesn't scale with AD. I don't know about SS rush- great for lane clearing, but you already have E max for that. With SS rush, I feel like you'll be super weak in trades, with low Q damage and no AA damage. If you want aspd ASAP, try my botrk build  Edit: I'm going to try playing MF mid with a trolly Aspd/AP build, similar to a Diana or Kayle. E gets a .8 AP ratio for the full duration, might be pretty good. W has really crappy scaling, which sucks, because if it was better you could run a malady/nashor/wit's end build like Teemo. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
Edit: After additional testing, the AP thing is dumb. Sure with Nashor/Rabby/Lichbane your E-AA-R can pretty much solo an entire team, but I think if you got behind you'd be in serious trouble. My current favorite build is still: Cutlass-t1-BF-t2-BT-BotRK-LW | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
Q scales with AD but has low base damage. When you level Q, you are upgrading mostly its CD, gain a little base damage but at the cost of higher mana. Regardless of whether or not you level it, it will scale as you build more AD. E scales with AP which you probably won't get but also has high base damage. When you level E, you're getting significantly more damage and a lot of utility from the AOE slow. Which of course always allows you to land a few more autoattacks. The marginal advantage is much higher it doesn't scale as you build AD, and you get less than half of the MS slow with a level 1 E. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
On March 29 2013 04:17 Crownlol wrote: I have no idea why people are saying BotRK on MF sucks. With bork, BT, LW you can really chew up bruisers, given her W and zerker's. The active also adds some nice burst for when you wanna just trash someone with 1QER. BotRK and BT are close to mutually exclusive items, I'd say. An AD carry can't build 3 offensive items and still have no crit chance and expect to do much damage. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
On March 29 2013 06:31 Alzadar wrote: BotRK and BT are close to mutually exclusive items, I'd say. An AD carry can't build 3 offensive items and still have no crit chance and expect to do much damage. Don't discount the amount of lifesteal from the two stacked. Unless an assassin can really stick to you, you are tough to bring down. | ||
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ShoreT
United States489 Posts
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
She hasn't lost much of her laning presence and her 6 item ultimate feels a little stronger than before. The mana cost reduction is very nice, too. However, I don't think it will cause her popularity to increase significantly (just like Graves who got a small buffs). Lacking the steroids (besides her W) that other current top ADs have and being very reliant on Flash, it doesn't look like she's going to be the beast she was. | ||
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