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MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
June 14 2012 04:32 GMT
#61
Been playing karma for a while now and loving it. Got a question though.. Can someone do a jungle karma guide?
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 14 2012 06:30 GMT
#62
On June 14 2012 13:32 MindBreaker wrote:
Been playing karma for a while now and loving it. Got a question though.. Can someone do a jungle karma guide?


Don't jungle Karma?
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 14 2012 06:33 GMT
#63
On April 19 2012 03:58 TheHumanSensation wrote:
Is there any particular reason why Morello's is suggested over Deathfire Grasp? I understand the benefit of getting Morellos when you aren't expecting blue buff is based mainly on the CDR/MP5 benefits, but do you feel the statistical downgrade for DFG is significant enough to look past the active?


If you are not a bursty AP caster, DFG's active is pretty useless.
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
June 14 2012 07:06 GMT
#64
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-29 20:15:55
July 29 2012 20:07 GMT
#65
I have been playing Support Karma for some time now, and it's pretty hard and shitty, especially if the lane partner isn't familiar with her and dodging the heal. But I fucking like it (and fuck the other supports).
I needed some time now to figure out a good build and think that this one is pretty good.

Philostone (starting with mana part and wards)
boots (mercury's or CD boots, depends on.)
Rush Deathcap fuck yeah
Depending on the enemy team
-abyssal
-shurelyas (or just kindlegem)
-frozen heart (or just glacial)
then RoA

obviously steal some creep from the carry, because you are not an ordinary support.
So end build: Shurelya's, mercury's (because you have sold CD boots, FH and Shurelya's give enough CD), abyssal, FH, Abyssal, RoA (or Rylai's which has good/bad synergy with w)
Oh well RoA at the end is pretty bad obviously, but it makes Karma tankier, and.. well actually didn't come to super lategame where full build was possible.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 18:28:53
July 30 2012 18:28 GMT
#66
you are doing your team a disservice playing as a "support" and then rushing a 3.6K gold item after 1 gold/10 item. stop it.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
July 30 2012 18:30 GMT
#67
I'd hardly call it "rushing" when you're buying Deathcap off support gold, lol.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
July 30 2012 20:16 GMT
#68
deathcap @ 40 minutes is standard
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 30 2012 23:06 GMT
#69
RoA *last item*? -_-
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
July 31 2012 01:05 GMT
#70
On July 31 2012 08:06 Sufficiency wrote:
RoA *last item*? -_-

gotta get that like 70 minute roa off 1 gp5 and no farm man, after youve bought all your other items.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 16 2012 04:54 GMT
#71
After actually buying her and playing her for a bit in the mid lane (I can't believe I spent IP for her instead of Kassadin), I think she is a good farmer but she poses absolutely no threat whatsoever to the opposing laner (your only meaningful poke is your mantra'ed E, but that has high cooldown), making it the biggest farm lane ever. Unfortunately Karma does not scale that well, so this kind of farm lane does not help Karma's team unless she is against LeBlanc or something like that who has a relatively weaker late game and does not shove very well. Also Karma's roam is piss poor.

I think her sub-40 win rate confirms my analysis.

I think dropping her cooldown on her R by another 5 seconds will make her an incredible mid-laner.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
January 09 2013 07:22 GMT
#72
Among other things, Barrier, Twin Shadows, Seraph's Embrace, new Locket, and current state of the game are all pretty favorable to Karma right now. Just try to pick into a phys damage dealer and start wreckin'. Karma doesn't lose too many lanes top, and now she doesn't have to worry about lv 2 ganks nearly as much.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 07 2013 00:50 GMT
#73
Karma's pretty decent at the moment. I don't understand win rates anymore. I might try her out some more but her win rate... so low >.< it scares me.
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Twinmold
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden238 Posts
February 07 2013 01:04 GMT
#74
On February 07 2013 09:50 obesechicken13 wrote:
Karma's pretty decent at the moment. I don't understand win rates anymore. I might try her out some more but her win rate... so low >.< it scares me.

She's often picked to troll.
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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
February 07 2013 02:17 GMT
#75
I've been tempted to pick Karma plenty of times, but you just know that if things go south you're going to be hauled up for trolling with a troll champ.
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Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
March 04 2013 11:50 GMT
#76
I've been playing Karma bot lane a little bit with Leona as a support. Its a pretty deadly kill lane and a lot of fun to play. Since Leona is a diving champ its perfect for Karma's mantra shield blast followed up by a Q. A mantra'd spirit bond is also great in a 2v2 lane where you can really benefit from both speed/slow as well as the damage (where in a solo lane that skill is very difficult to utilize).
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 04 2013 13:44 GMT
#77
It seems like if people die to that, they would have died to Leona+anything... I can't see how it's better in any way than the TROLLS thread's Leona+Annie, for example. But I can see several ways in which it's worse.
Pantagruel
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1427 Posts
March 04 2013 14:14 GMT
#78
On March 04 2013 22:44 sylverfyre wrote:
It seems like if people die to that, they would have died to Leona+anything... I can't see how it's better in any way than the TROLLS thread's Leona+Annie, for example. But I can see several ways in which it's worse.


From levels 3-5 Karma has significantly more burst damage then Annie for starters. The biggest advantage however is that a Karma - Leona bot lane is a hell of a lot safer then one with Annie. With a shield, a heal and a fairly significant speed boost if mantra'd they will be extremely difficult to gank.

Karma is a bit of a conundrum I feel like. To get the most use out of her you need an ally to utilize spirit bond. Solo lanes make it difficult to land the damage portion of spirit bond because people are generally behind their minions while a coordinated ally, especially one who can dive can position themselves properly. On the other hand she makes for a poor support because all of her abilities rely on ap scaling with limited cc. Therefore she works best with a tanky support who can dive in and does not require farm.
Johhey
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway72 Posts
March 06 2013 17:33 GMT
#79
Does anyone know what stage her rework is in? I remember a while agko it was announced they had to retart or redo some of their changes, I'm kind of out of the loop so any info is nice.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
March 06 2013 18:31 GMT
#80
They recently did a red post in Taiwan showing the current model in development, although it was quickly taken down, so it's not a 100% official source. either way, they are fairly on time and it won't be too long, I'm sure.
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