EPT[Champion] Rumble - Page 3
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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theMarkovian
Netherlands183 Posts
Q is hard, and you will have to get used to it. [S]top is your friend. In lane, you can press stop to help harass, so that your flamethrower hits your opponent at max range without you accidentally turning around or closing the distance. If the try to close in on you, you can kite back while turning constantly to keep doing damage. This is hard without using E to force Rumble to turn. I usually go 21/9/0 with mpen/armor/APlvl/AP or mpen/hplvl/mr/AP depending on my lane opponent. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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bmn
886 Posts
I've also had trouble against good AD Nidalee and Kennen top, they can usually harass you while taking little damage, plus both have movespeed steroids to escape if needed. Kennen shouldn't be getting many shuriken hits, but will stun you anyway once he has W passive up. (I have won against both AD Nid and Kennen, but IME an equally skilled player has the advantage over Rumble.) | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On May 03 2012 07:54 De4ngus wrote: lolwut rumble shits on irelia so hard. press q and she dies. Until you get camped by enemy jungler for the first 50 minutes, hue | ||
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G3CKO
Canada1430 Posts
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
These champions in general are good picks vs Rumble top, while being viable characters overall and I will post them in the order of strength i percieve they have vs Rumble, from strong - even - weak. Those who wins in this order, Irelia, Lee Sin, Olaf, Wukong, Shyvanna, Nidalee, Warwick, Yorick after these comes some more or less even matchups imo which are basically in this order, Renekton, Fizz, Kennen, Riven, Pantheon, Udyr, Talon, Jarvan, Poppy, Gangplank, Shen. The ones he generally should win against are Jax, Vladimir, Nasus, Mordekaiser, Tryndamere, Singed, Cho-Gath. There are some more but they are generally not picked too often, so when looking at this spectra it is pretty obvious that Rumble actually does not shit on most tops, more importantly he loses versus some of the most popular current picks which imo makes Rumble very iffy and unstable to run top. Additionally, he is actually a very decent pick for mid for many reasons and also the general hextech and wota nerfs has to a large degree led to this, and from now on should also lead to different kinds of builds being more viable than hextech rush on him. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I made a mistake once at level 3-4 while trying to get a last hit, and got stuck like that. Cue the full flamethrower in the face with 25 AP from him, MS quints not helping my champ preferring to stay stuck, and Rumble dives me on the next wave to kill me (Ganking easy at this point but we won't go into the specifics). He kills me again 2 other times (when he hits 6 while I'm still not 5, right as I come back to lane, and a bit later), until I reciprocate (bait into the tower while I'm almost dead, with MS quints to play ring around the Rosie and ignite up, then the double buff he gave to me and hexdrinker to all-in his face as soon as he misses Q and rushes regardless). I was able to beat it really easily after that, but I noticed post game that he never built any spellvamp, so he was probably really bad. How are melee champs supposed to deal with Rumble? In Olaf's case, I'd say max Q, stay in your minions to avoid E and bait a Q, then as soon as it's finished Q-E his face, and build 2 NMM into hexdrinker, then HP (phage or HoG). But in general? Do you start boots, prioritize MR and pots afterwards, warn your jungler that Rumble will push from the very beginning and ask him to get ready for a gank at level ~3 (when the 4-5th wave hits and you get close to your tower)? Retreat when Rumble Qs, try to harass him/get a last hit in during its (short) downtime, and accept to be harshly zoned as long as he's timing his Qs right to deter you from reaching dying minions, then make up for it by calling a gank, killing Rumble early, push the wave to catch up in cs, back to buy with your gold advantage and try to snowball the lane (possibly with another gank)? | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On May 03 2012 17:26 Alaric wrote: Meh. Laned against a Rumble as Olaf yesterday, cs-ing was a bitch and the pathing really screws you all over quite hard: have one of your minions come to you? To retreat your champ will try to go round it all the way back-and-forth and if Rumble tries to Q you while you're in your minion wave trying to last hit melee minions... x_x I made a mistake once at level 3-4 while trying to get a last hit, and got stuck like that. Cue the full flamethrower in the face with 25 AP from him, MS quints not helping my champ preferring to stay stuck, and Rumble dives me on the next wave to kill me (Ganking easy at this point but we won't go into the specifics). He kills me again 2 other times (when he hits 6 while I'm still not 5, right as I come back to lane, and a bit later), until I reciprocate (bait into the tower while I'm almost dead, with MS quints to play ring around the Rosie and ignite up, then the double buff he gave to me and hexdrinker to all-in his face as soon as he misses Q and rushes regardless). I was able to beat it really easily after that, but I noticed post game that he never built any spellvamp, so he was probably really bad. How are melee champs supposed to deal with Rumble? In Olaf's case, I'd say max Q, stay in your minions to avoid E and bait a Q, then as soon as it's finished Q-E his face, and build 2 NMM into hexdrinker, then HP (phage or HoG). But in general? Do you start boots, prioritize MR and pots afterwards, warn your jungler that Rumble will push from the very beginning and ask him to get ready for a gank at level ~3 (when the 4-5th wave hits and you get close to your tower)? Retreat when Rumble Qs, try to harass him/get a last hit in during its (short) downtime, and accept to be harshly zoned as long as he's timing his Qs right to deter you from reaching dying minions, then make up for it by calling a gank, killing Rumble early, push the wave to catch up in cs, back to buy with your gold advantage and try to snowball the lane (possibly with another gank)? Well as Olaf specifically, start boots, get out of fire, Q E him when fire done, run away. Build hexdrinker/Mercs/Phage like you said. Buy a negatron if you have to after. If rumble is top they have double ap most likely. Olaf can stack resists and still do good damage. When you hit 6 all in him, if you die before 6 well gl to you Rumble snowballs like crazy. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
If there is one matchup I love and yet hate to play as him, its vs Riven. Shes such an annoying bitch, but I love how tense the matchup gets, since you can both kill each other so well. Feels pretty even from my point-of-view, but it might be in slight favor of Riven. Any general tips for facing her, other than starting cloth+5? | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
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NoobieOne
United States1183 Posts
Kennen (AD or AP) Nid (AD) Irelia (MS quints+ def masteries) rushing wits end (this matchup is a little hard till you can get the wits end +merc but then its straight forward) Warwick (Chalice WW is really strong vs rumble) I play rumble on occasion and have faced some champions I don't play which are able to beat him easily enough Ryze top lane Corki top Graves top Galio top yes those are all unconventional picks but i've seen them work very well vs rumble which is why I almost never pick him unless I can see who their top is Rumble is one of those interesting champions who either wins lane big or looses it. I almost never have a farm lane as rumble except for Olaf or Shen who rumble just out-scales | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
On May 17 2012 05:25 NoobieOne wrote: I've been able to beat rumble consistently with champions Like Kennen (AD or AP) Nid (AD) Irelia (MS quints+ def masteries) rushing wits end (this matchup is a little hard till you can get the wits end +merc but then its straight forward) Warwick (Chalice WW is really strong vs rumble) I play rumble on occasion and have faced some champions I don't play which are able to beat him easily enough Ryze top lane Corki top Graves top Galio top yes those are all unconventional picks but i've seen them work very well vs rumble which is why I almost never pick him unless I can see who their top is Rumble is one of those interesting champions who either wins lane big or looses it. I almost never have a farm lane as rumble except for Olaf or Shen who rumble just out-scales I don't see how Galio top beats Rumble. Honestly sounds just like a complete farm fest, since Galio can just pop Bulwark on himself whenever Rumble tries to Q him. Irelia probably beats him once she gets those items you mentioned and she hits level 8-9. Also presuming she hasn't fed Rumble kills at all. Rumble can deny her so hard early on, harder than a lot of other champs. Ryze is in the same boat as Irelia. Deny him early then just shove the lane and roam once he gets too tanky. No comment about AD carrys top. Still don't see the use in having 2 AD carrys on one team. | ||
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Owned Noob
United States731 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On May 16 2012 07:12 Cloud9157 wrote: So I really love Rumble's skill curve and how much usefulness his ult brings to a team. Been trying to play him a lot more lately. If there is one matchup I love and yet hate to play as him, its vs Riven. Shes such an annoying bitch, but I love how tense the matchup gets, since you can both kill each other so well. Feels pretty even from my point-of-view, but it might be in slight favor of Riven. Any general tips for facing her, other than starting cloth+5? mpen reds, armor quints, blues, and yellows + cloth 5 start. Never had any trouble with the matchup, although I've gotten some hate for running those runes On July 13 2012 07:43 Owned Noob wrote: how do you guys use his ult? ive gotten used to smart casting all my stuff, but i have no idea how to smart cast his ult. normal casting also feels really clunky. what do you other typical smartcasters do about his ultimate? I just regular cast it. You'll get used to it, and it's worth it. I smartcast pretty much everything, but there are some things you just have to normal cast to get the most out of them (karth/anivia wall, blitz pull, malphite ult, etc.) | ||
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wraR.Raven
Argentina19 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On July 13 2012 08:32 wraR.Raven wrote: If you want to smartcast his ult press down r, aim it and then release r. Pretty sure that's non-smartcast | ||
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