EPT[Champion] Rumble - Page 4
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De4ngus
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anmolsinghmzn2009
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sylverfyre
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101toss
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On May 03 2012 07:54 De4ngus wrote: lolwut rumble shits on irelia so hard. press q and she dies. Haven't ever lost to a rumble as irelia. Ever. Triple NM build too op (NM/2->boots->2xNM->merc/hex/wits) I also usually run my vs leblanc page (all flat mr). You know why? Rumble is AP garen: don't feed him early and you win late. May also choose my armor yellow/ms quint page too, but flat mr just facerolls. | ||
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gtrsrs
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101toss
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On July 13 2012 22:30 gtrsrs wrote: ^i won't quote you so your embarrassing post doesn't stay around forever, but you should probably look up the summoner name of the person you quoted and tried to down-talk (hint, it's in his quote). then edit your post and thank the TL gods that not too many people saw it i had the courtesy to remove the first part everything else is what i believe is the case for me, beating irelia isn't as easy as pressing q unless the irelia is just bad (there are definitely bad irelias) | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On July 13 2012 22:30 gtrsrs wrote: ^i won't quote you so your embarrassing post doesn't stay around forever, but you should probably look up the summoner name of the person you quoted and tried to down-talk (hint, it's in his quote). then edit your post and thank the TL gods that not too many people saw it dude he's gold. pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.. | ||
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De4ngus
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101toss
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On July 14 2012 01:07 Perplex wrote: dude he's gold. pretty sure he knows what he's talking about.. clearly i am great at league of legends if i am gold, and everyone who is not gold is god awful and should uninstall i know this since in the sc2 forums here, if you aren't masters you are fucking terrible and your advice is thrown out instantly, but if you are masters, you are among the best players (good thing i am also in masterz league) BTW, ap garen is legit, i am gold elo so i know. He has 1to1 scaling on lichbane which is easily applied w/ Q and great scaling on lich bane, being ap and all, it makes him harder to itemize against. Plus, he has a great dfg/ult combo! He initiates with DFG for massive health loss then finishes it off with the execute. In addition, most people come into lane with +40 armor rune page. 40 armor doesn't work vs AP! With sorc shoes, you're looking at almost true damage when it comes to your ult and dfg. For your sustain, you will need revolver->wota for tons of vamp on your spin and ult. If you need a defensive option I'd choose from RoA (helps with garen's low mana and complements his free resists), rylai's so you can stick to people with your spin and when your ult fails to kill, and also abyssal scepter for a nice blend of mr and ap. Mejai's is super nice too, that 15% cdr is especially helpful. It is good practice to buy snowballing items every game! I also figured out the counter to irelia as rumble: super fast warden's mail! omg it is atkspd debuff (counters wits end) and ms debuff (counters ms quints), tons of health regen (sustain is op), 50(!) armor. Screw cloth/5 openings, beads/6 is the real deal. (yes i realize the dude is plat, but i also realize that elo means shit, just look at Elementz) | ||
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Navi
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Ppl just refuse to give up cs at weak levels / without certain items After a point yes irel will beat rumble in exchanges with null items | ||
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De4ngus
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On July 14 2012 01:50 101toss wrote: (yes i realize the dude is plat, but i also realize that elo means shit, just look at Elementz) Just fyi, Gandhi is one of the best (if not the best) Rumbles on this forum. And saying Gandhi's elo means shit is ignorant and false. | ||
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Lounge
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You: 250 ranked games, 1497 0 games played as Rumble, 2 games played as Irelia Him: 610 ranked games, 2014 113 games played as Rumble (70 wins), 49 games played as Irelia Who has more experience Rumble vs Irelia. | ||
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101toss
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On July 14 2012 02:27 Lounge wrote: Why people are upset about your counter claims: You: 250 ranked games, 1497 0 games played as Rumble, 2 games played as Irelia Him: 610 ranked games, 2014 113 games played as Rumble (70 wins), 49 games played as Irelia Who has more experience Rumble vs Irelia. That argument is fair enough. He is most likely better than me at this game. My point is, are we questioning the fact that MR stacking is effective vs rumble? It doesn't take a high elo player to figure that one out. What does rumble do vs MR stacking, punch irelia to death while overheated? Also, clearly irelia scales better lategame than rumble (outside of fighting in the jungle and the ult catches everyone)? Sure, ghandi probably would beat me 1v1 as rumble since I am worse than him (and I haven't played in a bit so I'm behind on patches) but that argument is like me playing garen and destroying 1200 players while calling their claims that garen is beaten with chainvest "false." Also when it comes to elo, I'm not saying ghandi is bad, I just wasn't aware of his skill. Blindly saying "he is 2000 elo so he is good" is almost as stupid as saying "he is gold elo so he is good" *cough*elementz*cough* If ghandi is truly skilled at rumble, which you guys have shown to me, then certainly I'll value his word. Also, I see elo decay has hit me like a truck and I am no longer gold, better uninstall | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On July 14 2012 02:39 101toss wrote: That argument is fair enough. He is most likely better than me at this game. My point is, are we questioning the fact that MR stacking is effective vs rumble? It doesn't take a high elo player to figure that one out. What does rumble do vs MR stacking, punch irelia to death while overheated? Also, clearly irelia scales better lategame than rumble (outside of fighting in the jungle and the ult catches everyone)? Sure, ghandi probably would beat me 1v1 as rumble since I am worse than him (and I haven't played in a bit so I'm behind on patches) but that argument is like me playing garen and destroying 1200 players while calling their claims that garen is beaten with chainvest "false." Also when it comes to elo, I'm not saying ghandi is bad, I just wasn't aware of his skill. Blindly saying "he is 2000 elo so he is good" is almost as stupid as saying "he is gold elo so he is good" *cough*elementz*cough* If ghandi is truly skilled at rumble, which you guys have shown to me, then certainly I'll value his word. Also, I see elo decay has hit me like a truck and I am no longer gold, better uninstall I'll 1v1 you, I suck at this game :~) | ||
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JokerSan
United States306 Posts
btw Darius poops on rumble. That's my on topic comment. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On July 14 2012 02:47 JokerSan wrote: Man I really want to know what he said now because he is hardcore damage controlling. btw Darius poops on rumble. That's my on topic comment. Basically said that MR stacking should shit on rumble, and presumed that anyone who would be able to kill irelia by basically facerolling was at an elo where MR is not purchased. Needless to say, Gandhi is not of such low elo. By making said presumption, said shitstorm happened Also, still currently in China, so I can't 1v1 for another week or so (also -25 more elo :s). And before I can do a 1v1, I have some 1v1 tiger udyr cheesing to do first. 2nd edit: that reminds me, before I do irelia vs rumble, would anyone be up for an udyr vs rumble 1v1 top? | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
if it costs nothing for them to do damage to you, you don't win by spending something to negate their damage, you know? like, you don't stck MR against vlad and expect to win - cause then he just farms and chips away at you. likewise with rumble, you don't win by stacking MR because it costs no time and no resources to harass you. all you do by stacking defenses against rumble is delay the inevitable | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
MR lets you can farm much more safely, and let you beat rumble in brawls since you do true damage anyways. Sure he can poke you to death, which is why you stay in your creep wave so he can't poke you with his harpoon. If he blows his cooldowns on bad harass, you can dive in and brawl. Without MR, well, you're much more susceptible. And which champion scales better with farm? In addition mr items naturally are strong on irelia, with mercs/hex/wits being all fine items. In about a week or so, feel free to PM me for a 1v1 | ||
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On July 14 2012 02:58 gtrsrs wrote: yo - MR stacking is not viable against champions with no mana costs if it costs nothing for them to do damage to you, you don't win by spending something to negate their damage, you know? like, you don't stck MR against vlad and expect to win - cause then he just farms and chips away at you. likewise with rumble, you don't win by stacking MR because it costs no time and no resources to harass you. all you do by stacking defenses against rumble is delay the inevitable I don't know how sound this advice is. I see people building 2 null magic vs akali and vlad at the highest levels of play. But really, why not? What else could you build that would be more efficient with ~800 gold? The null magic helps you trade and stay in lane longer while also building into mercs and wits/hex | ||
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