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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 14:53:37
July 18 2012 14:51 GMT
#141
Can't you just stack magic resist on chogath and survive with your passive? I don't know, I never have had problems with rumble I generally just play defensive and wait for jungler to come until I can specifically 1v1 him.

Of all the champs on TL rumble seems to give people the most problems, I'm wondering if people just don't know how to play super defensive because I've played over 100 nasus games I'm just naturally using that style of play because I scared as fuck of junglers anyway. And I don't want the "oh you'rej ust playing against bad rumble players" because surely rumble would be far more popular if he was that strong. Although I understand his winrate is pretty high that can have a lot to do with having an "abusive" laning style and a pretty decent mid/lategame although I think it's not the best.
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
July 18 2012 15:29 GMT
#142
How to poop on Rumble with Darius:

I use my standard AD runes: Flat AD, Flat Armor, Flat MR
9/21/0
Ignite/Flash

Boots 3 pots -> Hexdrinker -> HoG -> Phage -> Maw -> whatever

Start QEW, R > Q > W > E

You out-trade during all stages of laning. From level 1 if he tries to cs Q and auto attack him. Pretty soon he will only be able to cs with his E or under the tower. You can still grab him from under the tower when he tries to CS ranged creeps. You should be able to completely zone him after the first couple of levels. After 6 let the dunking commence.

Darius is a bad matchup for rumble because he can't win trades in lane and can't disengage if he gets grabbed.
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 18 2012 17:00 GMT
#143
So uh, how does cow top sound?
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 21:13:18
July 18 2012 21:12 GMT
#144
On July 19 2012 00:29 JokerSan wrote:
How to poop on Rumble with Darius:

I use my standard AD runes: Flat AD, Flat Armor, Flat MR
9/21/0
Ignite/Flash

Boots 3 pots -> Hexdrinker -> HoG -> Phage -> Maw -> whatever

Start QEW, R > Q > W > E

You out-trade during all stages of laning. From level 1 if he tries to cs Q and auto attack him. Pretty soon he will only be able to cs with his E or under the tower. You can still grab him from under the tower when he tries to CS ranged creeps. You should be able to completely zone him after the first couple of levels. After 6 let the dunking commence.

Darius is a bad matchup for rumble because he can't win trades in lane and can't disengage if he gets grabbed.

Can't rumble open EQQ and cede a few level 1 CS until he has both E and Q? I have a hard time believing that once he has both of those that you can win trades just by Q + Auto when he can QEE to reply with, at danger zone damage levels.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 18 2012 21:25 GMT
#145
On July 19 2012 06:12 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2012 00:29 JokerSan wrote:
How to poop on Rumble with Darius:

I use my standard AD runes: Flat AD, Flat Armor, Flat MR
9/21/0
Ignite/Flash

Boots 3 pots -> Hexdrinker -> HoG -> Phage -> Maw -> whatever

Start QEW, R > Q > W > E

You out-trade during all stages of laning. From level 1 if he tries to cs Q and auto attack him. Pretty soon he will only be able to cs with his E or under the tower. You can still grab him from under the tower when he tries to CS ranged creeps. You should be able to completely zone him after the first couple of levels. After 6 let the dunking commence.

Darius is a bad matchup for rumble because he can't win trades in lane and can't disengage if he gets grabbed.

Can't rumble open EQQ and cede a few level 1 CS until he has both E and Q? I have a hard time believing that once he has both of those that you can win trades just by Q + Auto when he can QEE to reply with, at danger zone damage levels.


Yea, I am pretty sure Rumble is expected to CS almost exclusively with his E in early levels anyway. He really can't play aggressive until lvl 5-7.

Another problem with Darius is that his Q pushes the lane, He is far more vulnerable to jungler ganks than most top laners.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
July 18 2012 23:14 GMT
#146
On July 18 2012 23:51 Slayer91 wrote:
Can't you just stack magic resist on chogath and survive with your passive? I don't know, I never have had problems with rumble I generally just play defensive and wait for jungler to come until I can specifically 1v1 him.

Of all the champs on TL rumble seems to give people the most problems, I'm wondering if people just don't know how to play super defensive because I've played over 100 nasus games I'm just naturally using that style of play because I scared as fuck of junglers anyway. And I don't want the "oh you'rej ust playing against bad rumble players" because surely rumble would be far more popular if he was that strong. Although I understand his winrate is pretty high that can have a lot to do with having an "abusive" laning style and a pretty decent mid/lategame although I think it's not the best.

The thing about Rumble is that he has a huge skillcap and he's really hard to use. He's really, really strong. I don't want to say you're playing against bad Rumble players because that might not be the case, but if you play defensive at the higher levels they'll just snowball it into a huge item/level advantage. You can't really play defensive against Rumble and hope to win IMO because his kit is so strong at harassing/zoning/escaping and he scales insanely well into mid-late with freefarm.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 18 2012 23:40 GMT
#147
On July 19 2012 02:00 101toss wrote:
So uh, how does cow top sound?

Sounds amazing to be honest, i think other top laners need to move over, theres a new top in town.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-19 00:20:20
July 19 2012 00:10 GMT
#148
On July 19 2012 08:14 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 23:51 Slayer91 wrote:
Can't you just stack magic resist on chogath and survive with your passive? I don't know, I never have had problems with rumble I generally just play defensive and wait for jungler to come until I can specifically 1v1 him.

Of all the champs on TL rumble seems to give people the most problems, I'm wondering if people just don't know how to play super defensive because I've played over 100 nasus games I'm just naturally using that style of play because I scared as fuck of junglers anyway. And I don't want the "oh you'rej ust playing against bad rumble players" because surely rumble would be far more popular if he was that strong. Although I understand his winrate is pretty high that can have a lot to do with having an "abusive" laning style and a pretty decent mid/lategame although I think it's not the best.

The thing about Rumble is that he has a huge skillcap and he's really hard to use. He's really, really strong. I don't want to say you're playing against bad Rumble players because that might not be the case, but if you play defensive at the higher levels they'll just snowball it into a huge item/level advantage. You can't really play defensive against Rumble and hope to win IMO because his kit is so strong at harassing/zoning/escaping and he scales insanely well into mid-late with freefarm.


Yeah rumble isn't going to have an easy time free farming because rumbles harassing relys on him keeping up danger zone meaning he has to spam spells which screws up his last hitting and if he wants perfect last hitting he gives up a lot of his DPS and harassment.

Well he can tank creeps and flame through a whole wave but the issue is he's so easy to gank when he does that unless he jungle also camps top he's going to have trouble getting away with that. Also he can only do that after he has hextech.

Unless you're towerdiveable your jungler can come at any point of time while their jungler has to make a blind guess as to when the jungles going to gank.
armed_
Profile Joined November 2008
Canada443 Posts
July 19 2012 02:17 GMT
#149
On July 19 2012 09:10 Slayer91 wrote:
Yeah rumble isn't going to have an easy time free farming because rumbles harassing relys on him keeping up danger zone meaning he has to spam spells which screws up his last hitting and if he wants perfect last hitting he gives up a lot of his DPS and harassment.

The only spell rumble needs to use to keep his heat wherever he wants it is shield.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 26 2012 01:19 GMT
#150
Rumble QQ storm inbound

Dunno how this happened
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 26 2012 03:08 GMT
#151
On July 26 2012 10:19 101toss wrote:
Rumble QQ storm inbound

Dunno how this happened

rumble got some fixes last patch that increased his overall dps by a large margin. He basically has rank 1 crowstorm on a 5 second cd. Rumble is pretty OP atm, but purely because he does a bit too much damage with Q.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6219 Posts
July 26 2012 03:13 GMT
#152
What happened was rumble's flamethrower was a messy piece of shit that hit every other flame some of the time. Riot fixed it so that every flame hits and now rumble does much more damage than he used to. They now have to tone the damage on it down so that it does the same damage it used to, on a much less random basis.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 26 2012 03:22 GMT
#153
so if I'm expecting to only CS with E for the first few levels would EWQQQ be better than EQQWQ?
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 26 2012 05:40 GMT
#154
ewq start is real good in a lot of matchups
GANDHISAUCE
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
July 26 2012 20:34 GMT
#155
I've been wondering, can rumble jungle?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
July 26 2012 21:55 GMT
#156
On July 27 2012 05:34 LazyFailKid wrote:
I've been wondering, can rumble jungle?


Barely. It's like saying, uh, Soraka can jungle. There is one spell going for him as far as jungling goes, but it's pretty bad.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 27 2012 02:53 GMT
#157
Has anyone used/considered spellvamp quints on Rumble? I usually use movespeed as it is, but would be easier to get an early haunting guise if you didn't need the early revolver. Love haunting guise on him, hurts so much.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
July 27 2012 03:17 GMT
#158
On July 27 2012 05:34 LazyFailKid wrote:
I've been wondering, can rumble jungle?


yes, really well
i've seen several elite players do it successfully in ranked games
rumble is just overpowered in general and succeeds in any lane
always has been
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 31 2012 05:36 GMT
#159
On July 26 2012 12:13 Lmui wrote:
What happened was rumble's flamethrower was a messy piece of shit that hit every other flame some of the time. Riot fixed it so that every flame hits and now rumble does much more damage than he used to. They now have to tone the damage on it down so that it does the same damage it used to, on a much less random basis.

Can we expect to see this nerf soon? I really hate laning against rumble atm.
Hello
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 31 2012 09:12 GMT
#160
his q will be nerfed next patch for sure.
GANDHISAUCE
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