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On July 14 2012 21:12 101toss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2012 16:33 De4ngus wrote:On July 14 2012 15:49 Amui wrote:On July 14 2012 14:49 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote: Pretty sure guitar is talking about the general interaction between a mana based vs a non-mana champion. He also specifically said that the non-mana champ wins if he forces you to build defense that isnt core in your build.
In the case of irelia 1) Wits IS core on her 2) It both gives her defence as well as offence and sustain cuz of her W.
Even in this case I guess if the rumble can harass irelia enough to make her blow most of her mana to sustain herself he can force her to back off or die he's done his job. Atleast until she hits her godmode. In any case, even if the lane is equal I don't think I would mind as rumble scales really well and his teamfighting is awesome. Rumble gets destroyed by irelia. blahblahtheorycraftblahblah. lets 1v1. This may be off topic but would I'd like to 1v1 rumble with new xin when he comes out, is that possible? no im scared.
also to be serious, knockups in general are a pain in the ass for rumble because it fucks up the fire. very sad.
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ya the nabitar ult to kill steals game
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Is Riven vs Rumble still more or less ZvZ, can be won or lost at anytime?
Cause everytime I play the matchup thats what it seems like
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meh i wouldnt call it zvz. i think riven is advantage in that matchup. knockups op.
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United States37500 Posts
I'd give the advantage to Riven as well.
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On July 16 2012 12:33 NeoIllusions wrote: I'd give the advantage to Riven as well. I'd give it to her aswell, but I think anytime after 6 a fight could turn either way with his ult and blah blah.
note, ive never actually had a bit of trouble vs Rumble
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On July 16 2012 13:34 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2012 12:33 NeoIllusions wrote: I'd give the advantage to Riven as well. I'd give it to her aswell, but I think anytime after 6 a fight could turn either way with his ult and blah blah. note, ive never actually had a bit of trouble vs Rumble Dash out of rumble ult and profit
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Germany1872 Posts
Hey, is there any chance of not lossing lane hilariously as Pantheon vs rumble? My Rumble started Dorans shield, skilled his lance first, shield second, flamethrower with level 3. He had no ap from runes or Masteries, probably run full defense and while i couldn't do a lot at early levels, at level 5 he straight killed me. I was in the mid of the lan when he turned the flamethrower on and just chased me back to my turret killing me with 2 tower hits on him there. From then on, anytime i would move away from my turret to last hit, he bodied me. Was the most stupid thing on earth, as he build tabis after shield, then a sunfire cape, wtf. I think his third item might have been an actual ap giving thing, but i don't know anymore. I felt so noob feeding that guy, but how can someone not building 1% damage kill me in the time i need to run from middle of lane to my tower?
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I feel that Rumble has a lot of bad matchups. He is not FP material.
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=/ if you're talking about arranged 5s, toplane is never fp anyway. if you're talking about soloq, i fp him every time.
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Everyone has counters but Rumble has like the least ever. fuck that hero fuck fuck fuck. Makes me rage so hard. He's also a huge counter to Malphite which is pretty big right now since malph is always picked/ban.
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On July 17 2012 01:10 De4ngus wrote: =/ if you're talking about arranged 5s, toplane is never fp anyway. if you're talking about soloq, i fp him every time.
It doesn't matter though. Against Riven there is no way Rumble can kill her unless she makes a mistake and all-ins you; against Kennen Rumble can't catch up to him; against Yorick.... well, it's Yorick. When you have zero abilities to kill your lane opponent you automatically lose the lane.
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Killing an enemy =/= winning a lane. I'd consider not dying to Riven winning the lane because of how useless she is compared to Rumble. And tbh Riven vs Rumble isn't that bad if he can survive the early early game. But I don't play those two that much.
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On July 17 2012 01:20 HazMat wrote: Killing an enemy =/= winning a lane. I'd consider not dying to Riven winning the lane because of how useless she is compared to Rumble. And tbh Riven vs Rumble isn't that bad if he can survive the early early game. But I don't play those two that much.
The issue is that if you can't do it, your lane presence is hugely diminished.
The thing about Rumble is that 1. his range is really short (beside his ultimate); 2. he deals sustained damage;
So he has to be relatively ahead (compared to other lanes) to be useful in a teamfight. If Riven shuts you down in lane it does become a big problem later on when you are underfarmed.
Also, Rumble literally cannot kill a competent Riven in lane. Ever. She simply has too many mini-dashes that she will win every trade.
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So many people playing rumble now ..everyone figuring out that he's secret OP. He was in <5% of 2k+ games a month ago and now he's in over 20%
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On July 17 2012 01:17 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 01:10 De4ngus wrote: =/ if you're talking about arranged 5s, toplane is never fp anyway. if you're talking about soloq, i fp him every time. It doesn't matter though. Against Riven there is no way Rumble can kill her unless she makes a mistake and all-ins you; against Kennen Rumble can't catch up to him; against Yorick.... well, it's Yorick. When you have zero abilities to kill your lane opponent you automatically lose the lane. ..... lol in soloq if you are better you will regardless of the matchup. also rumble owns kennen now with the range nerf. riot shouldnt have touched kennens range imo but thats something else.
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^fukkin lightning rat is op nerf him into the ground pl0x
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On July 17 2012 02:02 De4ngus wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 01:17 Sufficiency wrote:On July 17 2012 01:10 De4ngus wrote: =/ if you're talking about arranged 5s, toplane is never fp anyway. if you're talking about soloq, i fp him every time. It doesn't matter though. Against Riven there is no way Rumble can kill her unless she makes a mistake and all-ins you; against Kennen Rumble can't catch up to him; against Yorick.... well, it's Yorick. When you have zero abilities to kill your lane opponent you automatically lose the lane. ..... lol in soloq if you are better you will regardless of the matchup. also rumble owns kennen now with the range nerf. riot shouldnt have touched kennens range imo but thats something else. ...They did touch kennen's range.
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