EPT[Champion] Vayne - Page 2
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22577 Posts
Opening Dorans shield, Like regrowth it gives nice hp regen, adds armor to help with with minion aggro from tumble harass and gives you some more hp which she really lacks. Buy Pickaxe on first shop. While her W gives really nice late game damage as hp and armor goes up its less so early. Pickaxe adds some AD to help last hitting and tumble harass. Boots next, normaly go for zerkers since once you get hit by cc your normaly dead anyway.# Sword of the Divine after boots. The Attack speed helps with W, and as she wants to attack for longer periods the proc adds a more damage. From here the build tends to differ a lot depending on matchups and enemies but generaly tanky. Even in late game situations with only a pickaxe and SotD as dmg items she does a lot. Sometimes I get lifesteal and build towards stark. Mostly pick up a negaton and chainvest to turn into a banshee and GA. If the game hasnt ended yet turn the pickaxe into a MBR and watch tanks melt. Masteries I go 9/21/0 Runes armor yellows, flat MR blues and I have actualy been changing between AD and armor pen for reds/quints. not sure yet which is like more. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On May 31 2011 07:29 Brees wrote: this is bad. Instead of being lazy and just wanting to sit and right click, use tumble and condemn properly and 1v5 their team with IE build. nah, this is definitely the proper way to build her i made it clear in my build that this still relies on positioning and kiting, but the fact that you won't get blown up if you get within 1000 range of any other hero is really nice, it's a quality that no other carries have (except atmogs sivir) i'm p sure you haven't tried this build yet. like i said 95% of people i see building vayne do shit like last whisper -> ie or triforce -> damage, even on high level streams. those builds are nice for killing things quickly, but i'll gladly trade upfront damage for sustained damage on a carry every time, especially at the additional bonus of not dying when enemy soraka looks at you funny | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4342 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
I'm doing great with Wits End -> zeal -> Bloodrazor -> Frozen Mallet -> More tankstuff. The AS/% health combo from BR + w is insane, i like the zeal thrown in for MS and a little more AS. Or is it just your opinion that W is so OMGWTF broken that everything besides Wits/PD is "too much damage" compared to the survivabiltiy you get from more tank items earlier? PS: If I'd use your build I'd go (Philos and boots aside) Wits end -> Zeal -> Starks -> Malet/Warmogs -> Atmas -> NOW finish PD. Pretty sure it's more effective this way. Maybe finish after Starks or the HP item, but definitly not the full PD that quick. PPS: My #1 argument against damage items since release is that your ult gives you damage. You simply press R when a Tristana would press Q. While I feel that more damage is overkill I feel Bloodrazor adds just that nice amount of damage you love when fighting without ult. | ||
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NightWalks
Latvia252 Posts
With such build i felt like all upcoming items are way to delayed and even more it delays vaynes's great snowballing with AS + W so i lost quite mutch of my presence during fights as without AS items i had hard time landing 3x W while keeping safe distance ( Delayed lv2 boots ). My core so far with vayne atm is : Boots + 3HP pots ( Mobility to harass with AA + Q + W proc / pots to heal ) -> finish Zerkers ( faster harass + W procs ) -> Zeal -> 2nd Zeal ( My reasoning is : Zeal gives me AS for W and MS for escape/harass Crit is nice bonus . I buy 2x Zeals coz gettin PD straight away is expensive and with vayne i want to get upgrades all the time not save up for something) From Zerkers -> 2x Zeal i have follow 2 routes 1) Game goes well and i'm not focused or i can still survive focus and kite // Get BF and build Either infinity or Black Cleaver etc to punish enemy bad teamplay/scater 2)Enemy team has burst assasin and or rest of them also go for me // OP's atmogs work like a charm starting with Chain vest + Giants into mogs into atma Regarding sheen // early game thumble doesn't have such short CD to activate sheen and Q spam for Sheen procs drained my mana eventualy. Also AP tome + Mana crystal delays once again vaynes potential of harass | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
armor pen reds attack speed yellows attack speed blues flat ad quints flat armor or flat mr on yellow or blue if u need it in lane q w e than skill order max R>E>Q>W basic vayne combos roll->hit->knock back->land another hit while the target is being knocked back easiest way to pull off 3 hit combo ult from brush->roll->pin to wall->hit->roll->chase~ real basic vayne combo | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
On June 09 2011 00:15 locodoco wrote: boots + 3 pots-> 1~2 doran swords-> zeal->IE(bf sword-> pick axe-> crit cloak)-> dancer armor pen reds attack speed yellows attack speed blues flat ad quints flat armor or flat mr on yellow or blue if u need it in lane q w e than skill order max R>E>Q>W basic vayne combos roll->hit->knock back->land another hit while the target is being knocked back easiest way to pull off 3 hit combo ult from brush->roll->pin to wall->hit->roll->chase~ real basic vayne combo Materies? "You can thank me later~"? =( | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
u can thnk me l8r~ | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
On June 09 2011 02:49 locodoco wrote: 21/0/9 u can thnk me l8r~ Damn I was running 0/30/0 and I felt vayne was so weak. | ||
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Hakker
United States1360 Posts
I hate saying it but all it takes is getting a single ulted condemn off at level 9 to bring someone from 100-20, then you've already lost the fight. I've been playing her following Chaox build and it honestly seems unfair. | ||
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On June 09 2011 04:08 DJEtterStyle wrote: Thanks to the OP for pointing out Warmog's + Atma's on Vayne. I don't agree with the rest of the build, but working towards those two items after you've completed Trinity Force and Ionian Boots gives you almost everything you need: health, armor, critical chance, and damage. Finish with a Last Whisper and you're a beast. fuk da wat... Etter? Edit: gawd Mogwai, such a downer. Just surprised to see Etter in this subforum. I haven't seen him post in agesssss. Better? zz | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
http://www.solomid.net/guides.php?g=1270. IMO going full aspd without AD still isn't that great, don't fall into the trap of "must find a synergy with W". You don't always lock onto one target for 3 shots, also why abuse the W for "i kill them in 10 shots with 2,5 shots per second" when you can kill them in 5 shots with 1,5 shot per second  (yeah i didn't do the real research but neither did anyone who thinks that going mostly aspd on her is good). Tanky items are useful only when you don't trust your teammates and still it's quite easy for vayne to use them as meatshields without them knowing | ||
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
On June 09 2011 04:19 NeoIllusions wrote: fuk da wat... Etter? Edit: gawd Mogwai, such a downer. Just surprised to see Etter in this subforum. I haven't seen him post in agesssss. Better? zz I'm still around. You'd laugh if you saw my TL view: everything is collapsed except General and Sports & Games. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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NightWalks
Latvia252 Posts
Tanky items are useful only when you don't trust your teammates and still it's quite easy for vayne to use them as meatshields without them knowing Had several games where enemy team had akali .... 1)I was fed with good dmg . Team fight starts . Akali jumps from bush/ledge etc . I'm either dead or run back to base 2)Akali was fed. Same as Nr1 only i was always dead. Shroud makes her untargetable by condemn and tanks don't see anything either to get her off me ... Atmogs let me live and add nice dmg / crit I also build Mogs against heavy burst like Blanc. boots + 3 pots-> 1~2 doran swords-> zeal->IE(bf sword-> pick axe-> crit cloak)-> dancer AD route is totaly viable and works well aslong enemy team makes mystake of not attacking vayne. | ||
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