[Champion] Vayne - Page 13

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

April 21 2013 04:24 GMT

#241

On April 17 2013 23:16 Juicyfruit wrote:

Their reasoning is probably just: if I have W maxed and tons of AS, I can easily just activate R and kill cait even if she's ahead in gold. PD first is such an old build though; i thought they would go for statik shiv instead.

I think the reasoning behind PD is that it scales better into 3+ items. Considering that's the part of the game where vayne starts to seriously ramp up, it makes sense to itemize towards that. Shiv is a lot stronger when you can poke with the AD(cait, ez) or you have massive burst that you can unload for midgame fights(Graves, Draven).

olabaz

United States298 Posts

April 21 2013 19:09 GMT

#242

From my understanding, Koreans go Shiv first for two reasons:
1) the build path and
2) pushing lanes

If you look at the build path for BT vs SS you see that SS builds from a bunch of 400 cheap items and as a vayne player it's much easier to acquire these items than to save 1550 for a BF sword with your weak early game. Saving 1550 gold means you won't have any items for a long time.

Also, you might say that PD and BotRK build from cheap items as well. That is why the second reason is pushing lanes. If you notice, Koreans don't focus on champion kills and farming as much as NA scene does. Their main idea is to secure an advantage through towers and dragons. The SS passive helps you push lanes to let you get those objectives faster.

Amarok

Australia2003 Posts

August 02 2013 05:21 GMT

#243

I've been having huge success with an attackspeed Vayne after I saw Maplestreet use it. I forgo a BF item and open with BotRK into PD followed by Shiv, throwing in something defensive along the way.

Abusing the hell out of her W seems to deal with tanky targets without the need for LW, and squishies were never a problem for Vayne anyway.

Anyone else building her like this?

FakePromise

United States77 Posts

August 02 2013 06:06 GMT

#244

I've been playing Vayne ever since I started this game which was last year. It's really surprising to see so many Vayne picks and bans now. I've always played Vayne against many ADCs even Cait because I knew I could outplay other ADCs when I get lv6. As long as I didn't die pre 6 I would be fine.

As far as building Vayne, I like BotRK -> PD/SS -> LW -> IE -> GA/QSS. I feel like getting a LW is critical even if you have the silver bolts

Sedzz

Australia391 Posts

August 04 2013 05:00 GMT

#245

I like the guy above me have played vayne as my go to ADC (most games played). To be honest I'm more surprised at her only getting popular now but I guess it's her time in the meta, vayne doesn't really have any horrible match ups, mostly unfavourable ones (graves and cait are the biggest pains) but as long as you have a decent support to baby sit you can get through the early game fine with equal farm.

I've been experimenting a lot with BotRK into Shiv (if I get an early lead) to extend the CS gap and get more ahead, which I will sell and get double PD. I honestly don't think AD is that much of a priority anymore given the meta where health stacking is so predominant.

miicah

Australia2470 Posts

August 04 2013 23:51 GMT

#246

On August 02 2013 14:21 Amarok wrote:
I've been having huge success with an attackspeed Vayne after I saw Maplestreet use it. I forgo a BF item and open with BotRK into PD followed by Shiv, throwing in something defensive along the way.

This is the asian build that has been gaining popularity in solo q and NA recently. I don't think you need PD and Shiv, you either need to pick PD for teamfighting/skirmishing or shiv for split pushing.

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