On November 06 2015 07:03 North2 wrote: I do think DL was top 3 in S2 and he is top 4-6 adc in the west...which to me is a replaceable part. Aphro on the other hand is top 2, if not the best in terms of skill.
Sneaky >> Niels=Rekkles > everyone else > Turtle is how I look at the western ADC pool. I may be missing a few standouts from the EU scene since I don't watch them too often, but there aren't any other ADCs in the western ADC scene that wows me.
DL could be ahead of Niels and Rekkles if he stopped getting caught in random places that are mostly just poor route choices or even basic precautions like not hugging the wall close enough. If he can just fix this he would be Top 2 and an irreplaceable member...but he has had this problem for 4 full seasons now.
Not that Turtle is a world class ADC, but if you seriously think he's the worst western AD you need to get your head checked.
I mean, I'm a worse western adc then turtle, I wouldn't argue that.
The problem is you have some really really bad teams in LCS. I think people mean more "out of the players/teams that matter, turtle is the worst western adc" which I think isn't a completely unfair position to hold.
On November 06 2015 07:03 North2 wrote: I do think DL was top 3 in S2 and he is top 4-6 adc in the west...which to me is a replaceable part. Aphro on the other hand is top 2, if not the best in terms of skill.
Sneaky >> Niels=Rekkles > everyone else > Turtle is how I look at the western ADC pool. I may be missing a few standouts from the EU scene since I don't watch them too often, but there aren't any other ADCs in the western ADC scene that wows me.
DL could be ahead of Niels and Rekkles if he stopped getting caught in random places that are mostly just poor route choices or even basic precautions like not hugging the wall close enough. If he can just fix this he would be Top 2 and an irreplaceable member...but he has had this problem for 4 full seasons now.
Not that Turtle is a world class ADC, but if you seriously think he's the worst western AD you need to get your head checked.
I mean, I'm a worse western adc then turtle, I wouldn't argue that.
The problem is you have some really really bad teams in LCS. I think people mean more "out of the players/teams that matter, turtle is the worst western adc" which I think isn't a completely unfair position to hold.
Well then people should probably do a better job of getting their points across.
Also Vardags. Woolite was also a player on a (otherwise decent) team not that long ago.
Listening to all the drama over the past few days got me thinking. Aphromoo still claims to be Doubles friend even after going out of his way to have him removed from CLG, how is this? Knowing such a conundrum could only be solved in the shower, I rushed there immediately. Where upon I arrived at the following conclusion, observe these facts: 1) Coach Chris is removed from CLG. 2) The Yung POB is benched from the starting roster, leading to his departure from the team. 3) Zion was actively looking for other options as evidenced by his tryout with TSM. Observing the following and realizing that the management was on a collision course to going full CLG, Aphromoo did the only thing he could and decide to leave the team. BUT! He knew that Doublelift would never leave CLG, his loyalty too great. And so Aphro devised a plan to orchestrate the removal of Doublelift from CLG, thusly freeing his best friend from his obligations to the team and allowing him finally to move on and save him from another season of the CLG Failtrain. His work concluded, Aphromoo now quietly entertains other options from teams around the LCS, content in his knowledge that while Peter may have been hurt by his actions, he was ultimately his unknowing savior. TL;DR- Aphromoo true support to the end.
imaqtpie reflects on reflections with Thoorin where HotshotGG reflects about Doublelift
They're so blindly fanboying Doublelift, man. Dude, if you want to know how Doublelift is, go ask his fucking former teammates. Go ask—please—ask Seraph what he thinks of Doublelift. Not even as a player, ask him what he thinks of him as a person. I'd love for Seraph to give an actual answer on that one. Yeah, or Link, dude. Dude, give it to—ask anyone. I wish that people weren't so fucking, like, blind to their fanboyisms. It's fucking disgusting reading that thread. People are so fucking stupid, man. People on Reddit have their heads so far shoved up their ass, man. I feel for Hotshot.
Doublelift going to learn that grass isnt always greener on the other side. Rekkles also went through this but DL's going to be ten times worse because his boss is Reginald.
They're so blindly fanboying Doublelift, man. Dude, if you want to know how Doublelift is, go ask his fucking former teammates. Go ask—please—ask Seraph what he thinks of Doublelift. Not even as a player, ask him what he thinks of him as a person. I'd love for Seraph to give an actual answer on that one. Yeah, or Link, dude. Dude, give it to—ask anyone. I wish that people weren't so fucking, like, blind to their fanboyisms. It's fucking disgusting reading that thread. People are so fucking stupid, man. People on Reddit have their heads so far shoved up their ass, man. I feel for Hotshot.
So he is telling his fanboys to not blindly believe DL and to blindly believe Hotshot despite not being in the scene for a year+. Aight qt.
On November 07 2015 08:54 Mensol wrote: Doublelift going to learn that grass isnt always greener on the other side. Rekkles also went through this but DL's going to be ten times worse because his boss is Reginald.
In other words, I cant wait for TSM Legends.
CLG has had tons of conflict the past 4 years. Better to work for the guy who knows how to grow his business than the guy who just admitted at times he was more focused on his streaming than team and acts like a 10 year old.
The reality of these kinds of situations is usually that both people were assholes. He's just saying Reddit's painting HSGG as the worst guy in this fiasco when that's probably not true.