[Patch 4.2] Xerath/Skarner General Discussion - Page 93

On February 21 2014 01:49 Parnage wrote:
Was about as fun to play as watching a painting of a unicorn dry. I dunno I generally agree with the soraka/sustain supports are bad idea. They explained it ages ago I am sure you could find it with some digging. I'am fine with them being around I just don't want them turning bot lane into a boring "lalaa you can't kill me" like before.

On February 21 2014 02:43 Ketara wrote:
I miss the days when TLGD would talk about things that weren't related to WW Support.

Remember when we used to bash everything other than Warwick? Oh last week.

On February 21 2014 02:45 Slayer91 wrote:
still better than people bitching about riots balancing for 20 pages every new patch

On February 21 2014 02:38 Slayer91 wrote:


It's not about diamond who stomp other people. How can you say that when you refuse to play warwick on your actual skill level. How come playing on your main account gives you the conclusion that
"he's not viable at that skill level" and not the logical one which is
"I can't win with him at that skill level". There is nothing that changes except skill level of the opponents through the ranks and there's absolutely no reason to believe that the champ is entirely dependent on opponent skill.

Ganking mid with ignite, diving bot, helping neutrals, good damage they are all game changing moves that you can do with lots of other supports and generally they are things that suppotrs who are carrying the game do.
Also just because someone is playing at their level doesn't mean they aren't outplaying their opponents. I can feed or go legendary with the same champ at the same skill level and its all because my skill level has huge variance.

On February 21 2014 02:52 Ketara wrote:
You don't dodge skillshots. You block them. Save all that excess buttonclicking for taunting them.

On February 21 2014 02:53 Sarah Bryant wrote:


Well, read my messages, i said about d1 "i'm not good enough to win with him at that level" and "he got huge problems at that level". I do play it and i try to make it work but so far i can't, so i can't sell people stuff i can't do myself.

Yea you can do it all that with other top supports, but not with other unorthodox picks, which seperates him from them.

And true, but you don't really need to outplay hard or put super effort with him any on skill level, just play smart.

On February 21 2014 03:00 Alaric wrote:
Pretty sure TL agrees as a whole that Sejuani's good in general, but yeah... not now.
I guess I'll have to pickup Lee Sin... Nautilus really weak now, both in general and relative to the meta, and people hand out Vi bans like candy, and I can't rely on "generic" picks a la J4, Maokai, Mundo like I did last season (well, I can still use Mundo, it's just he's weak during his first clear and I'd rather be able to countergank at 3 if needed raher than be half-health with all potions down).

Touching Elise or Kha'Zix is out of the question. Maybe try my hand more seriously at Evelynn. Stuff like Hecarim could probably work too but I've never exactly plyed it in PvP so worse starting point than others. Lee has the advantage of always being relevant meta-wise.

On February 21 2014 02:56 Slayer91 wrote:


this barely worked when force of nature chogath was in the game



how do you know you can't do it with other unorthodox picks, I bet you haven't put enough effort into those unorthodox supports to try to make them work. Maybe they'll do fine at all levels lower than Diamond X for you.

Also outplay hard//super effort all subjective terms. This game is really easy in terms of effort required its all "playing smart" pretty much.
it just seems relaxed because you literlaly can't do anything for most of the early game which is the most stressful part because you need to focus a lot there to win lanes.

On February 21 2014 03:00 Alaric wrote:
Pretty sure TL agrees as a whole that Sejuani's good in general, but yeah... not now.
I guess I'll have to pickup Lee Sin... Nautilus really weak now, both in general and relative to the meta, and people hand out Vi bans like candy, and I can't rely on "generic" picks a la J4, Maokai, Mundo like I did last season (well, I can still use Mundo, it's just he's weak during his first clear and I'd rather be able to countergank at 3 if needed raher than be half-health with all potions down).

Touching Elise or Kha'Zix is out of the question. Maybe try my hand more seriously at Evelynn. Stuff like Hecarim could probably work too but I've never exactly plyed it in PvP so worse starting point than others. Lee has the advantage of always being relevant meta-wise.