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On May 03 2013 19:55 Osmoses wrote:
I'm not some overemotional toddler, I can tell when someone is tongue in cheek, and this was not that :p
Even if it were tongue in cheek I still think it's not OK to make fun of complete strangers at their expense. That's just common sense. If some guy "just likes to flame people" ... That just makes him a dick. What is this bully-apologetic agenda you're peddling? That it's fine to be a bully as long as you're doing it "ironically"? Is it even funnier when 4 people gang up on one guy? Because I think it's messed up.
They're not beating you up and stealing your lunch money. Or making you lose games intentionally, or letting you die intentionlly. They're just typing things in chat and because you're insecure about it it makes you angry.
It doesn't even have to be tongue in cheek, but it doesn't mean they really mean it. They don't ACTUALLY think you're the a downs syndrome feeder noob etcetc. They're just having a laugh and if you'd play along you'd have fun too.
It started back when I was probably 13-14 and some guy who was acting really high and mighty it seemed to be and was flaming everyone was making me mad. I stuck around playing with him and when I was asking why he was a dick he replied that he wasn't being a dick it was just my insecurities making me mad and if I wasn't insecure I wouldn't think he was a dick at all. I became good friends with him and that line of thinking got into me fast. So when I meet a lot of guys who are like past me and really insecure I try to explain it to them as well.
Gordon ramsey is really a popular tv chef known for flaming everyone around him. He was interviewed by some guy who did some show in Ireland who asked him about it. He said he was in this agressive environment and called the guy a little scared pussy cat and something else because he doesn't say what he wants if he loses his temper. The guy went really red faced and shouted out "BUT I CAN CALL YOU A CUNT IF I WANT TO" Gordon, just completed unphased replied "you should get your heart checked out". (bonus, this guy ended up dying of heart failure  )
See gordon ramsey isn't a bad guy, and he isn't actually insecure in himself and he just says what he wants, and if that makes people mad thats their problem. That reporter guy could have easily replied that you can't say the type of things he says on national television which is what he should have said, but he got mad over nothing really and he exploded.
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All I do is randonly burst out in song of "a whole new world." huehue
The client does bug out on me a lottt cause fuck adobe air. I think literally every important game it mattered (like tourny games and shit, even ghandi and soniv can attest to how much trouble i sometimes have zzz) my client would go "you know what...i DON'T want to work!" and would crash, causing me to need to restart it twice. Only happens with LoL client gg. Also lose internet a lot. So idrc about afks that have to do with rl cause i learned "shit happens." but when it has to do with the person nerdraging harder than hotshot when he's pmsing, then yeah, ban those cockmunchers. But riot already has tribunal to help find and get rid of such people who do that. So to riot i doubt they see it as a "problem" since their in place system with reporting + the leaver buster is meant to bring such things to attention.
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On May 03 2013 17:18 cascades wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 16:51 Slayer91 wrote:On May 03 2013 16:43 cascades wrote:On May 03 2013 15:55 Slayer91 wrote:how about you work your way to the top of solo queue so you meet the same players enough to know who you'd want on a team you big slacker  although copenhagen wolves took all the good danish players I reckon Aka not Equilash right? Burn. YOU SAID IT NOT ME He didn't deny it! BURN HIM TOO
Bjergsen actually asked me in the start of season 2 if I wanted to make a team with him and Malunoo - I didn't want to migrate from East though...
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Maybe you should try the mute button, just some food for thought. If someone in my game goes afk on purpose, I report them, doesn't matter the reason.
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The flamers tend to get banned anyway, Osmoses could have easily played the game normally and reported them, and if he gets reported for afking then he might get banned for what he sees as their problem, but it really wasn't.
But the people who get mad from being flamed in LoL are the same people who could end up getting kicked out of a bar for fighting, and its not that some drunk guy taking trash in a bar should be shot in the head. Sticks and stones guys.
On May 03 2013 20:29 EquilasH wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 17:18 cascades wrote:On May 03 2013 16:51 Slayer91 wrote:On May 03 2013 16:43 cascades wrote:On May 03 2013 15:55 Slayer91 wrote:how about you work your way to the top of solo queue so you meet the same players enough to know who you'd want on a team you big slacker although copenhagen wolves took all the good danish players I reckon Aka not Equilash right? Burn. YOU SAID IT NOT ME He didn't deny it! BURN HIM TOO Bjergsen actually asked me in the start of season 2 if I wanted to make a team with him and Malunoo - I didn't want to migrate from East though...
So you're saying you're dumb as well as bad? :D
EDIT SEE WHAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. Equilash isn't going to freak out and come to my house with a shotgun for this kind of shit.
EDIT 2: NVM BRB CALLING THE POLICE AND JUMPING OUT THE WINDOW
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How do you know he'a not already outside your window? WITH A RADIOOO!
I should start a singing career.
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you are the only station, you play the song i know
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On May 03 2013 20:31 Slayer91 wrote:The flamers tend to get banned anyway, Osmoses could have easily played the game normally and reported them, and if he gets reported for afking then he might get banned for what he sees as their problem, but it really wasn't. But the people who get mad from being flamed in LoL are the same people who could end up getting kicked out of a bar for fighting, and its not that some drunk guy taking trash in a bar should be shot in the head. Sticks and stones guys. Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 20:29 EquilasH wrote:On May 03 2013 17:18 cascades wrote:On May 03 2013 16:51 Slayer91 wrote:On May 03 2013 16:43 cascades wrote:On May 03 2013 15:55 Slayer91 wrote:how about you work your way to the top of solo queue so you meet the same players enough to know who you'd want on a team you big slacker although copenhagen wolves took all the good danish players I reckon Aka not Equilash right? Burn. YOU SAID IT NOT ME He didn't deny it! BURN HIM TOO Bjergsen actually asked me in the start of season 2 if I wanted to make a team with him and Malunoo - I didn't want to migrate from East though... So you're saying you're dumb as well as bad? :D EDIT SEE WHAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. Equilash isn't going to freak out and come to my house with a shotgun for this kind of shit. EDIT 2: NVM BRB CALLING THE POLICE AND JUMPING OUT THE WINDOW
That's exactly what I'm saying
Edit: Also there are still some good Danish players left, like ZoroZero, Mik0w, XL Winner, (MrRalleZ), (me), etc... But afaik there are no good Danish junglers left. Obviously there are others but these are the ones I know - in general there are a lot of Danish people in YoloQ.
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Slayer91 that's a pretty bad attitude. Having fun at the expense of someone doesn't mean that the person they're having fun at the expense of does need to endure it. It's like if you're getting bullied by a group of friends who are "having fun" that's okay and you shouldn't care about it making you feel like shit because they're just "having fun". I cannot comprehend how you can think like that.
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On May 03 2013 20:20 Slayer91 wrote:
It started back when I was probably 13-14 and some guy who was acting really high and mighty it seemed to be and was flaming everyone was making me mad. I stuck around playing with him and when I was asking why he was a dick he replied that he wasn't being a dick it was just my insecurities making me mad and if I wasn't insecure I wouldn't think he was a dick at all. I became good friends with him and that line of thinking got into me fast. So when I meet a lot of guys who are like past me and really insecure I try to explain it to them as well.
See, I don't get this. Or I sort of do, and it still annoys me to no end.
I have indeed met people both irl and online, with that sort of 'sense of humor'. Friends who throw profanities and insults at each other - in a playful manner ofc.
I think it is incredibly childish & lowbrow humor - something that no one in my social circle would ever use.
Playing along and having a laugh is not an option, because I don't find this one bit funny. Being insecure has little to do with it.
While it is perfectly fine to pull this with your actual friends, consider that people who you play soloque with are in fact not your friends and will most likely not appreciate that sort of 'humor'.
While some random TV chef might think it's okay and get away with it doesn't mean you can or should.
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On May 03 2013 18:58 Artok wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 17:44 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I partly agree, there are plenty of times people go AFK with a 'good reason'.
A friend of mine sometimes has to go AFK to take care of his baby girl when she wakes up crying. It happens in about every 10 game or so we play. Do you want to ban him for going afk there?
Theres a fine line in whats 'ok' and whats not, imo it comes down to how you are yourself. Do you think he should have considered the possibility his baby would cry and not queue? Ban him for AFKing. Do you think hes being a good dad and games are less important than actual life, pardon him.
sidenote: also had it the other way around while playing D3 with some random skypefriends. One of them got into an argument with his girlfriend (they were together for about 2 years) and continued to argue for about half an hour for all of us on skype to hear. In the end we could all hear her breaking up with him calling him all sorts of crap. We were all in a 'WTF MAN GO OFFLINE, TALK TO HER' state, but he wanted us to complete the archievement we were trying to get at that point.
nonsense, in the end he ruined the game for 4 other people, not taking baby into consideration before entering the queue is his fault and he should be punished, when i got banned for 3 days in one of the reported games i dcd because i had to go to the hospital, so what, i should cry to riot because real life is a bitch or what? I ruined the experience for my team, reason is irrelevant.
You should not cry to riot about that. You should treat others like you would like to be treated. Real life happens to everyone, take it like a grown up and move on to another game.
Cheer up man
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On May 03 2013 20:20 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 19:55 Osmoses wrote:
I'm not some overemotional toddler, I can tell when someone is tongue in cheek, and this was not that :p
Even if it were tongue in cheek I still think it's not OK to make fun of complete strangers at their expense. That's just common sense. If some guy "just likes to flame people" ... That just makes him a dick. What is this bully-apologetic agenda you're peddling? That it's fine to be a bully as long as you're doing it "ironically"? Is it even funnier when 4 people gang up on one guy? Because I think it's messed up. They're not beating you up and stealing your lunch money. Or making you lose games intentionally, or letting you die intentionlly. They're just typing things in chat and because you're insecure about it it makes you angry. It doesn't even have to be tongue in cheek, but it doesn't mean they really mean it. They don't ACTUALLY think you're the a downs syndrome feeder noob etcetc. They're just having a laugh and if you'd play along you'd have fun too. It started back when I was probably 13-14 and some guy who was acting really high and mighty it seemed to be and was flaming everyone was making me mad. I stuck around playing with him and when I was asking why he was a dick he replied that he wasn't being a dick it was just my insecurities making me mad and if I wasn't insecure I wouldn't think he was a dick at all. I became good friends with him and that line of thinking got into me fast. So when I meet a lot of guys who are like past me and really insecure I try to explain it to them as well. Gordon ramsey is really a popular tv chef known for flaming everyone around him. He was interviewed by some guy who did some show in Ireland who asked him about it. He said he was in this agressive environment and called the guy a little scared pussy cat and something else because he doesn't say what he wants if he loses his temper. The guy went really red faced and shouted out "BUT I CAN CALL YOU A CUNT IF I WANT TO" Gordon, just completed unphased replied "you should get your heart checked out". (bonus, this guy ended up dying of heart failure ) See gordon ramsey isn't a bad guy, and he isn't actually insecure in himself and he just says what he wants, and if that makes people mad thats their problem. That reporter guy could have easily replied that you can't say the type of things he says on national television which is what he should have said, but he got mad over nothing really and he exploded.
Well I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but your sensei was full of shit :p If he needs to flame other people to have a good time that probably says alot more about his own insecurities than anyone else's. And your argument stays the same, that somehow it's the person being attacked who's at fault for not "dealing with it". The problem is the bully, not the one being bullied.
And get off your high horse, zenmaster, "past you" is never further away than a bad day at work. Citing Gordon Ramsay as some kind of evidence to support your cause is pretty weird because he's nothing but a hasbeen reality tv star who's only talent was shouting. He's a shitty boss and an unpleasant person.
I'm not saying we need to hunt down the internet trolls, I'm saying rather than take shit from someone lying down you should give some back. I've never been in a fight in my life but if some random guy starts mouthing off to me for no reason in a bar, yeah, I guess I'd get in a fight. Of course he doesn't know me and whatever he says is probably very uninformed (maybe even tongue in cheek), but thats not what its about. He is purposefully disrespecting me. and I don't think I should have to tolerate that if I have a choice.
Alright this got alot deeper than I really meant to go. Someone was a dick to me on the internet and I was a dick back is basically the gist, but I was kind of taken by surprise that anyone would think to defend internet dicks. I mean, thicker skin and man-up and all that aside, nobody actually thinks the internet dicks aren't the problem in the first place, do they?
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On May 03 2013 21:16 Xayoz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 20:20 Slayer91 wrote:
It started back when I was probably 13-14 and some guy who was acting really high and mighty it seemed to be and was flaming everyone was making me mad. I stuck around playing with him and when I was asking why he was a dick he replied that he wasn't being a dick it was just my insecurities making me mad and if I wasn't insecure I wouldn't think he was a dick at all. I became good friends with him and that line of thinking got into me fast. So when I meet a lot of guys who are like past me and really insecure I try to explain it to them as well. See, I don't get this. Or I sort of do, and it still annoys me to no end. I have indeed met people both irl and online, with that sort of 'sense of humor'. Friends who throw profanities and insults at each other - in a playful manner ofc. I think it is incredibly childish & lowbrow humor - something that no one in my social circle would ever use. Playing along and having a laugh is not an option, because I don't find this one bit funny. Being insecure has little to do with it. While it is perfectly fine to pull this with your actual friends, consider that people who you play soloque with are in fact not your friends and will most likely not appreciate that sort of 'humor'. While some random TV chef might think it's okay and get away with it doesn't mean you can or should.
If a person is fine with it then go for it. But if he's not okay with it then the group should drop the joke.
And hey, gordon ramsay is the only guy who tells women to get OUT of the kitchen. That man should get an award lol
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On May 03 2013 17:44 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I partly agree, there are plenty of times people go AFK with a 'good reason'.
A friend of mine sometimes has to go AFK to take care of his baby girl when she wakes up crying. It happens in about every 10 game or so we play. Do you want to ban him for going afk there?
Theres a fine line in whats 'ok' and whats not, imo it comes down to how you are yourself. Do you think he should have considered the possibility his baby would cry and not queue? Ban him for AFKing. Do you think hes being a good dad and games are less important than actual life, pardon him.
He's being a good dad, but a shitty gamer.
I have times during the day where i know i can play uninterrupted and times i know i probably will be interrupted.
Guess which time i play LoL in.
Your friend KNOW'S he is on baby-call, he knows at any random interval he could be called away to deal with said problem, it could happen 10x or once and last for 30 seconds to 3 hours (she could just outright wake up or drift off to sleep after being comforted.)
Why the fuck would you play a game in which your required to be 100% active 100% of the time? Log on to an MMO, Single player game, hell play an FPS, but dont play fuckin MOBA's.
On May 03 2013 21:15 Shikyo wrote:
Slayer91 that's a pretty bad attitude. Having fun at the expense of someone doesn't mean that the person they're having fun at the expense of does need to endure it. It's like if you're getting bullied by a group of friends who are "having fun" that's okay and you shouldn't care about it making you feel like shit because they're just "having fun". I cannot comprehend how you can think like that.
His mindset / attitude reminds me alot of when i was in school. Take the piss out of everyone not in your circle of friends, or even gang up on someone in it and piss them off / upset them. Yeah we did that alot, even to the guy who's house we used when we bunked off lessons to get stoned, made him cry a few times
Its just being an asshat IMO, as most kids are.
Osmose is right, people dont just randomly start being dicks to you IRL, you'd end up in a fight, verbally or physically. You wouldnt laugh at a complete stranger and say "Haha, touche my good sir, i am a fuckfaced retarded gay cunt!"
Its very much schoolboy behaviour imo
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On May 03 2013 21:36 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 17:44 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I partly agree, there are plenty of times people go AFK with a 'good reason'.
A friend of mine sometimes has to go AFK to take care of his baby girl when she wakes up crying. It happens in about every 10 game or so we play. Do you want to ban him for going afk there?
Theres a fine line in whats 'ok' and whats not, imo it comes down to how you are yourself. Do you think he should have considered the possibility his baby would cry and not queue? Ban him for AFKing. Do you think hes being a good dad and games are less important than actual life, pardon him.
He's being a good dad, but a shitty gamer. I have times during the day where i know i can play uninterrupted and times i know i probably will be interrupted. Guess which time i play LoL in. Your friend KNOW'S he is on baby-call, he knows at any random interval he could be called away to deal with said problem, it could happen 10x or once and last for 30 seconds to 3 hours (she could just outright wake up or drift off to sleep after being comforted.) Why the fuck would you play a game in which your required to be 100% active 100% of the time? Log on to an MMO, Single player game, hell play an FPS, but dont play fuckin MOBA's.
Because some people like to play a game they enjoy with their friends. Not everyone takes the game as serious as you aparently are. I dont mind him going AFK like that, or someone going AFK because someone is at the door or something like that. Im not going to shut down the doorbell, bring the kids to grandma and turn off my phone just because I want to play 1 game with friends.
Is everyone seriously this bittered? Lighten up people.
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I think he assumed you were talking about solo q in ranked or something instead of playing in a party with friends. They are two completely different things.
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On May 03 2013 21:54 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 21:36 Capped wrote:On May 03 2013 17:44 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I partly agree, there are plenty of times people go AFK with a 'good reason'.
A friend of mine sometimes has to go AFK to take care of his baby girl when she wakes up crying. It happens in about every 10 game or so we play. Do you want to ban him for going afk there?
Theres a fine line in whats 'ok' and whats not, imo it comes down to how you are yourself. Do you think he should have considered the possibility his baby would cry and not queue? Ban him for AFKing. Do you think hes being a good dad and games are less important than actual life, pardon him.
He's being a good dad, but a shitty gamer. I have times during the day where i know i can play uninterrupted and times i know i probably will be interrupted. Guess which time i play LoL in. Your friend KNOW'S he is on baby-call, he knows at any random interval he could be called away to deal with said problem, it could happen 10x or once and last for 30 seconds to 3 hours (she could just outright wake up or drift off to sleep after being comforted.) Why the fuck would you play a game in which your required to be 100% active 100% of the time? Log on to an MMO, Single player game, hell play an FPS, but dont play fuckin MOBA's. Because some people like to play a game they enjoy with their friends. Not everyone takes the game as serious as you aparently are. I dont mind him going AFK like that, or someone going AFK because someone is at the door or something like that. Im not going to shut down the doorbell, bring the kids to grandma and turn off my phone just because I want to play 1 game with friends. Is everyone seriously this bittered? Lighten up people.
other people care about the game, youre just being ignorant and self centered, people are different.
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On May 03 2013 21:54 ihasaKAROT wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 21:36 Capped wrote:On May 03 2013 17:44 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I partly agree, there are plenty of times people go AFK with a 'good reason'.
A friend of mine sometimes has to go AFK to take care of his baby girl when she wakes up crying. It happens in about every 10 game or so we play. Do you want to ban him for going afk there?
Theres a fine line in whats 'ok' and whats not, imo it comes down to how you are yourself. Do you think he should have considered the possibility his baby would cry and not queue? Ban him for AFKing. Do you think hes being a good dad and games are less important than actual life, pardon him.
He's being a good dad, but a shitty gamer. I have times during the day where i know i can play uninterrupted and times i know i probably will be interrupted. Guess which time i play LoL in. Your friend KNOW'S he is on baby-call, he knows at any random interval he could be called away to deal with said problem, it could happen 10x or once and last for 30 seconds to 3 hours (she could just outright wake up or drift off to sleep after being comforted.) Why the fuck would you play a game in which your required to be 100% active 100% of the time? Log on to an MMO, Single player game, hell play an FPS, but dont play fuckin MOBA's. Because some people like to play a game they enjoy with their friends. Not everyone takes the game as serious as you aparently are. I dont mind him going AFK like that, or someone going AFK because someone is at the door or something like that. Im not going to shut down the doorbell, bring the kids to grandma and turn off my phone just because I want to play 1 game with friends. Is everyone seriously this bittered? Lighten up people.
Yeah we are this "bittered".
10 people in a game and just because your his friend he's allowed to AFK and ruin 8 others game right? Its not like those 3 people were wanting a 5v5 or the opponents wanted a fair game. He's entering that game on the knowledge that he will probably have to afk at some point, AFKing means ruining a game, for both teams, so he is essentially (and you) happy to ruin a game for 9 (8) other people and waste 20-40 minutes of their day / lives.
A short AFK because of something unexpected is completely different, you dont know its going to happen how can you be blamed for it. He 1) knows he might have to afk 2) doesnt know how long for 3) doesnt give a fuck about others regarding points 1+2
If you cant see the problem with this then your mindset is that of a giant douche.
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On May 03 2013 13:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
well, i actually just was incredibly frustrated and slammed my laptop lid down after losing 11 games of aram in a row. i havent been this annoyed since i had ALEKS in gen chem.
in the interest of not being solely a QQ:
riot should add some sort of system that punished AFK/leaving really hard-- checks how long its been since you moved, gotten gold, participated in a kill, etc. i know that they do, but it seems to have literally no effect. IMO its a worse offense than a dodge and should give like a 1hr penalty (that only ticks down while you're logged in). it doesnt only screw people over a little bit, but for at least 20 minutes. if its a 4v5, teams should also have the option to surrender before 20.
Should be at least 4x the game length imo. Punishment should fit the offence and have a risk factor.
And instead of just being logged in for an hour they should have to keep in the client for an hour reclicking when a riot alert comes up every 5 minutes.
On May 03 2013 17:59 Lmui wrote:... ![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/d1539cfb6b5cb85e3182d1416428c26a/tumblr_mm3sahByWn1qltusbo1_500.png) This picture gives a little bit of a different meaning to the icon you choose...
So if you're Asian you pick Avarosa.
If you're white you pick Claws
If you're black you pick Frostguard?
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Wow, we might be hitting new lows today.
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