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On May 03 2013 23:01 Serelitz wrote:
Quinn had that whole lore journal for Lissandra's reveal.
Not like anyone buys Quinn anyway really.
Might wanna now with dem buffs.
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On May 03 2013 22:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 22:45 Slayer91 wrote:If you think they're a retard and should get taught a lesson and I don't then you're personally bothered by them. On May 03 2013 22:42 Requizen wrote:On May 03 2013 22:27 Slayer91 wrote:On May 03 2013 22:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 03 2013 22:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wow, we might be hitting new lows today. I feel like it's always when I wake up, the GD conversation is so far from where we left it. I blame Europe. This is an issue that effects the entire LoL population and people consider the worst thing about the game and its easily solvable by people relaxing and by not having an intense emotional reaction to some words on a screen. Meanwhile like 5 pages ago: On May 03 2013 12:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Now I understand why xj9 so emo: he really is emo.
Has the emo hair/dress and everything. G_G On May 03 2013 12:09 Requizen wrote:
Why didn't you guys tell me Mao was free wins in solo queue On May 03 2013 12:18 Disengaged wrote:On May 03 2013 12:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Now I understand why xj9 so emo: he really is emo.
Has the emo hair/dress and everything. G_G Hes also a ghoster. Fascinating shit guys, why can't we have stuff like this in GD all day its so enlightening. I mean I have my fair share of 1-liners but everytime I get into a real discussion about anything everyone gets so uncomfortable because theres confrontation and that is a problem similar to the way everyone has a problem with flamers. There's no problem with confrontation, its the socratic method after all. Actually there's a great joke I forgot about. It's from Jimmy Carr: "There's a big problem with bullying in schools. We can't stop the bullies, we tried that, so the best way is to stop the people being bullied from being such faggy dicks. And the best way for that to happen is, bullying!" + Show Spoiler [video here] +It's a joke, but it's from the perspective of the bully. Everything is about perspective, the bullys aren't evil people, they don't think what they are doing is wrong. That's not to say its a bad thing but if you can't help them you can only help yourself, which is why I'm saying instead of being pissed off at every flamer or trying to make a campaign to get flamers banned if you find a way to not have a problem with them suddenly your LoL life becomes much easier. There's no reason to be arguing with this guy, though. He raged and afked and thought he was justified. Everyone realizes it's a douche move, he's probably a toxic player, and ignored him. Why do we still need to be talking about it 3 pages later? I'm not arguing with him. This is the confrontational thing that outlaw got REALLY mad at me for. (he thought I hated him because I'd make fun of some of his statements, and since he never made fun of me he didnt hink he deserved it) I'm arguing against his point of view. Since his point of view is relevant to a huge % of the LoL playerbase I figure I should post the discussion and hope people think more about getting really mad when they get flamed in games. On May 03 2013 22:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:On May 03 2013 22:27 Slayer91 wrote:On May 03 2013 22:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 03 2013 22:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wow, we might be hitting new lows today. I feel like it's always when I wake up, the GD conversation is so far from where we left it. I blame Europe. This is an issue that effects the entire LoL population and people consider the worst thing about the game and its easily solvable by people relaxing and by not having an intense emotional reaction to some words on a screen. Meanwhile like 5 pages ago: On May 03 2013 12:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Now I understand why xj9 so emo: he really is emo.
Has the emo hair/dress and everything. G_G On May 03 2013 12:09 Requizen wrote:
Why didn't you guys tell me Mao was free wins in solo queue On May 03 2013 12:18 Disengaged wrote:On May 03 2013 12:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Now I understand why xj9 so emo: he really is emo.
Has the emo hair/dress and everything. G_G Hes also a ghoster. Fascinating shit guys, why can't we have stuff like this in GD all day its so enlightening. I mean I have my fair share of 1-liners but everytime I get into a real discussion about anything everyone gets so uncomfortable because theres confrontation and that is a problem similar to the way everyone has a problem with flamers. There's no problem with confrontation, its the socratic method after all. Actually there's a great joke I forgot about. It's from Jimmy Carr: "There's a big problem with bullying in schools. We can't stop the bullies, we tried that, so the best way is to stop the people being bullied from being such faggy dicks. And the best way for that to happen is, bullying!" + Show Spoiler [video here] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMGNyLu8bBg It's a joke, but it's from the perspective of the bully. Everything is about perspective, the bullys aren't evil people, they don't think what they are doing is wrong. That's not to say its a bad thing but if you can't help them you can only help yourself, which is why I'm saying instead of being pissed off at every flamer or trying to make a campaign to get flamers banned if you find a way to not have a problem with them suddenly your LoL life becomes much easier. I was more talking about this: + Show Spoiler [Casual racism] +On May 03 2013 22:10 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 17:59 Lmui wrote:... ![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/d1539cfb6b5cb85e3182d1416428c26a/tumblr_mm3sahByWn1qltusbo1_500.png) This picture gives a little bit of a different meaning to the icon you choose... So if you're Asian you pick Avarosa. If you're white you pick Claws If you're black you pick Frostguard? If you want to talk about the other thing, I'm on the side of not being an asshole. Everyone could be less sensitive, but better than that is no one being an asshole. Not sure how's that's even an argument. If everyones sensitive about everything we can't make any jokes at all. That's silly. I thought what you see as casual racism I see as a good joke. If you WERE a racist it wouldn't be funny because something is only funny if you don't expect the result. Since none of us are real racists we don't expect the "black guys like ass whites like boobs" stereotype joke. Getting offended on BEHALF of someone who MIGHT get offended is a silly thing to do. I guarantee you nobody got offended by that joke. No, it's important to be sensitive about the right things. I agree that LoL is not one of them, so you're right in that people should try to change their mindset to worry less about what other players say because it's incredibly meaningless. However, if people take an averse reaction to the words and thoughts of their teammates, they're well within their rights to want a healthier playing environment where people stop acting like dicks for no reason. Because even if you shouldn't be angry about it, those people are still dicks. If you wouldn't gang up and mock a stranger in real life, you shouldn't do it online because people are still people. It just helps that the stranger in question has the ability to ignore them if they want. And since it comes down to a matter of perspective, that's probably why this argument is going nowhere and why some people are bored with it. As far as the picture goes, I'm offended because A) it's not funny and B) racism is racism. So I guess your last point is wrong. Edit: And to a later point of yours, these are the kinds of things that perpetuate racism, but if you want me to explain that to you, I can do it outside of GD because, again, this is going nowhere.
If it was funny, would you think its okay?
If its within their rights to want a healthier place to play, then they can report them. However "feeding the fire" doesn't help anything.
I'm not sure about if raging and afking in a game when people flame you makes it more likely for someone else to think its okay, and I think it might be related to the whole "if you make racist jokes it spreads racism". That's another interesting topic but it goes further even more off-topic.
Oh, and my whole point about matter of perspective, doesn't mean the argument is going nowhere, because you can take another persons perspective "walk a mile in their shoes" is the colloquial phrase. Once you understand their behaviour you can accept it much more easily.
Regarding quinns: I've seen some quinns dominate, quinn mid seems to work for some reason, she doesn't seem to be that good bot for she's pretty dangerous when fed.
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On May 03 2013 13:50 BlackPaladin wrote:
What if they're just so unskilled at this game they don't know you can right click to move? You gotta make sure your reports are correct, yo.
When I leveled my NA account a guy did nothing but retreat ping the fountain for around 10 minutes in a row (I learnt that day that ignoring somebody doesn't ignore his pings), after 7-8 minutes I had a look and noticed h wove about 3/4th of a screen toward botlane. He started playing around the 15th minute and went doing little camps to try and catch up in exp.
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On May 03 2013 23:01 AsmodeusXI wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 23:01 Serelitz wrote:
Quinn had that whole lore journal for Lissandra's reveal.
Not like anyone buys Quinn anyway really. Might wanna now with dem buffs.
Aye been maining Quinn top pre-buffs already. I don't have lifesteal quints though, and I never play ADC so I'm not too keen on getting them. With red pot nerfed, what should I start? Just cloth/5 and never upgrade it? Or flask + ward + pot? Iunno.
Also Quinn mid works because her ult gives her amazing roaming potential + it's a safer lane. Same reason Vi never got played top but did get some playtime mid.
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You actually have a lot of valid points Teut, and I usually do the same in a lot of situations and I rarely get frustrated when people are flaming me. It can get really frustrated when 2 people are arguing though cuz I know it greatly diminishes my chances of winning.
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On May 03 2013 23:02 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 22:57 AsmodeusXI wrote:On May 03 2013 22:45 Slayer91 wrote:If you think they're a retard and should get taught a lesson and I don't then you're personally bothered by them. On May 03 2013 22:42 Requizen wrote:On May 03 2013 22:27 Slayer91 wrote:On May 03 2013 22:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 03 2013 22:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wow, we might be hitting new lows today. I feel like it's always when I wake up, the GD conversation is so far from where we left it. I blame Europe. This is an issue that effects the entire LoL population and people consider the worst thing about the game and its easily solvable by people relaxing and by not having an intense emotional reaction to some words on a screen. Meanwhile like 5 pages ago: On May 03 2013 12:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Now I understand why xj9 so emo: he really is emo.
Has the emo hair/dress and everything. G_G On May 03 2013 12:09 Requizen wrote:
Why didn't you guys tell me Mao was free wins in solo queue On May 03 2013 12:18 Disengaged wrote:On May 03 2013 12:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Now I understand why xj9 so emo: he really is emo.
Has the emo hair/dress and everything. G_G Hes also a ghoster. Fascinating shit guys, why can't we have stuff like this in GD all day its so enlightening. I mean I have my fair share of 1-liners but everytime I get into a real discussion about anything everyone gets so uncomfortable because theres confrontation and that is a problem similar to the way everyone has a problem with flamers. There's no problem with confrontation, its the socratic method after all. Actually there's a great joke I forgot about. It's from Jimmy Carr: "There's a big problem with bullying in schools. We can't stop the bullies, we tried that, so the best way is to stop the people being bullied from being such faggy dicks. And the best way for that to happen is, bullying!" + Show Spoiler [video here] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMGNyLu8bBg It's a joke, but it's from the perspective of the bully. Everything is about perspective, the bullys aren't evil people, they don't think what they are doing is wrong. That's not to say its a bad thing but if you can't help them you can only help yourself, which is why I'm saying instead of being pissed off at every flamer or trying to make a campaign to get flamers banned if you find a way to not have a problem with them suddenly your LoL life becomes much easier. There's no reason to be arguing with this guy, though. He raged and afked and thought he was justified. Everyone realizes it's a douche move, he's probably a toxic player, and ignored him. Why do we still need to be talking about it 3 pages later? I'm not arguing with him. This is the confrontational thing that outlaw got REALLY mad at me for. (he thought I hated him because I'd make fun of some of his statements, and since he never made fun of me he didnt hink he deserved it) I'm arguing against his point of view. Since his point of view is relevant to a huge % of the LoL playerbase I figure I should post the discussion and hope people think more about getting really mad when they get flamed in games. On May 03 2013 22:41 AsmodeusXI wrote:On May 03 2013 22:27 Slayer91 wrote:On May 03 2013 22:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:On May 03 2013 22:16 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Wow, we might be hitting new lows today. I feel like it's always when I wake up, the GD conversation is so far from where we left it. I blame Europe. This is an issue that effects the entire LoL population and people consider the worst thing about the game and its easily solvable by people relaxing and by not having an intense emotional reaction to some words on a screen. Meanwhile like 5 pages ago: On May 03 2013 12:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Now I understand why xj9 so emo: he really is emo.
Has the emo hair/dress and everything. G_G On May 03 2013 12:09 Requizen wrote:
Why didn't you guys tell me Mao was free wins in solo queue On May 03 2013 12:18 Disengaged wrote:On May 03 2013 12:09 BlackPaladin wrote:
Now I understand why xj9 so emo: he really is emo.
Has the emo hair/dress and everything. G_G Hes also a ghoster. Fascinating shit guys, why can't we have stuff like this in GD all day its so enlightening. I mean I have my fair share of 1-liners but everytime I get into a real discussion about anything everyone gets so uncomfortable because theres confrontation and that is a problem similar to the way everyone has a problem with flamers. There's no problem with confrontation, its the socratic method after all. Actually there's a great joke I forgot about. It's from Jimmy Carr: "There's a big problem with bullying in schools. We can't stop the bullies, we tried that, so the best way is to stop the people being bullied from being such faggy dicks. And the best way for that to happen is, bullying!" + Show Spoiler [video here] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMGNyLu8bBg It's a joke, but it's from the perspective of the bully. Everything is about perspective, the bullys aren't evil people, they don't think what they are doing is wrong. That's not to say its a bad thing but if you can't help them you can only help yourself, which is why I'm saying instead of being pissed off at every flamer or trying to make a campaign to get flamers banned if you find a way to not have a problem with them suddenly your LoL life becomes much easier. I was more talking about this: + Show Spoiler [Casual racism] +On May 03 2013 22:10 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 17:59 Lmui wrote:... This picture gives a little bit of a different meaning to the icon you choose... So if you're Asian you pick Avarosa. If you're white you pick Claws If you're black you pick Frostguard? If you want to talk about the other thing, I'm on the side of not being an asshole. Everyone could be less sensitive, but better than that is no one being an asshole. Not sure how's that's even an argument. If everyones sensitive about everything we can't make any jokes at all. That's silly. I thought what you see as casual racism I see as a good joke. If you WERE a racist it wouldn't be funny because something is only funny if you don't expect the result. Since none of us are real racists we don't expect the "black guys like ass whites like boobs" stereotype joke. Getting offended on BEHALF of someone who MIGHT get offended is a silly thing to do. I guarantee you nobody got offended by that joke. No, it's important to be sensitive about the right things. I agree that LoL is not one of them, so you're right in that people should try to change their mindset to worry less about what other players say because it's incredibly meaningless. However, if people take an averse reaction to the words and thoughts of their teammates, they're well within their rights to want a healthier playing environment where people stop acting like dicks for no reason. Because even if you shouldn't be angry about it, those people are still dicks. If you wouldn't gang up and mock a stranger in real life, you shouldn't do it online because people are still people. It just helps that the stranger in question has the ability to ignore them if they want. And since it comes down to a matter of perspective, that's probably why this argument is going nowhere and why some people are bored with it. As far as the picture goes, I'm offended because A) it's not funny and B) racism is racism. So I guess your last point is wrong. Edit: And to a later point of yours, these are the kinds of things that perpetuate racism, but if you want me to explain that to you, I can do it outside of GD because, again, this is going nowhere. If it was funny, would you think its okay? If its within their rights to want a healthier place to play, then they can report them. However "feeding the fire" doesn't help anything. I'm not sure about if raging and afking in a game when people flame you makes it more likely for someone else to think its okay, and I think it might be related to the whole "if you make racist jokes it spreads racism". That's another interesting topic but it goes further even more off-topic.
No. I wouldn't. See point #2. I'm offended as someone who likes humor and someone who likes people. Separately.
No, it doesn't. You're right. AFKing makes you just as much an ass as flaming in the first place. You still shouldn't have to play a game with shitheads. But there's no good answer here since it's only opinions butting heads.
I'm sorry that you lack a nuanced perspective on the whole matter of casually accepted social commentary and how it perpetuates deeply-ingrained bigotry.
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I've taken a roguelike approach to playing LoL. It's like playing FTL or XCom - you can get lucky and get free weapons/good teammates or you get fucked by the RNG and get aliens/morons. Either way you still try to achieve the best outcome given your circumstances but don't play with the expectation of being able to win.
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In the spirit of derailing this thread to slightly less controversial topics; what should I cook for dinner? Preferably something simple and/or cheap.
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If you're not vegetarian: chicken caesar salad.
If you don't care about being particularly healthy: take a packet of instant ramen (such as Shin ramen), cook it, and then throw in an egg and a slice of processed cheese on top.
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Do you have an opinion about casually accepted social commentary and how it perpetuates deeply-ingrained bigotry. You use of such a long phrase indicates you do but when I say "I'm not sure" I'm really not. Because I can imagine seeing a lot of rage afkers making you think afking and raging is more okay, but when you apply that argument for casually racist jokes I guess I think it makes casual racism okay but I don't think it makes really harmful prejudices okay. However I'm not sure about the gateway. (Like that shit where the woman couldn't find a job and made a separate account changing black to white and instantly got one, or the woman scientist changing gender and becoming more academically successful, that's pretty shocking)
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How one reacts to flame depends on so many things - above all, what mood you are in.
97% - I would just ignore/mute flamers trolls.
Rarely I flame back.
But sometimes, I just press Alt+F4 and close my computer.
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On May 03 2013 23:15 Serelitz wrote:
In the spirit of derailing this thread to slightly less controversial topics; what should I cook for dinner? Preferably something simple and/or cheap.
How about a fry-up with equal numbers of black and white pudding
OKAY SORRY SORRY
On May 03 2013 23:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
I've taken a roguelike approach to playing LoL. It's like playing FTL or XCom - you can get lucky and get free weapons/good teammates or you get fucked by the RNG and get aliens/morons. Either way you still try to achieve the best outcome given your circumstances but don't play with the expectation of being able to win.
Yeah exactly. You can't change these things, so if you have arguing teammates you just laugh about it and do your best. UNLESS we're talking about equilash's potential 5's team. If you are sticking together in a arranged team having arguments in game CLG style is shit you need to lockdown since its absolutely within your control.
About FTL; when I got it I played it for like a whole weekend straight, won it, and then completely lost interest. How hard is it to win regularly (like 70-80%+) if you're a good player. I don't care about all the other ships because I kinda like the 1st one best.
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On May 03 2013 23:15 Serelitz wrote:
In the spirit of derailing this thread to slightly less controversial topics; what should I cook for dinner? Preferably something simple and/or cheap.
1 box Chicken Broth
1 lb. Chicken (can be less)
Crushed Red Pepper Flakes
A few cloves of garlic
A head of cilantro
1/2 cup rice
1) Put the broth in a pot on the burner. Cut the chicken, garlic, and cilantro, add to the pot. Add red pepper flakes as desired.
2) Bring pot with all ingredients to a boil (evenly), then simmer for 25 minutes.
3) Add rice, bring to boil, then simmer for 15 minutes.
End result: delicious soup. Add avocado, salt, or tortilla chips if desired.
On May 03 2013 23:19 Slayer91 wrote:
Do you have an opinion about casually accepted social commentary and how it perpetuates deeply-ingrained bigotry. You use of such a long phrase indicates you do but when I say "I'm not sure" I'm really not. Because I can imagine seeing a lot of rage afkers making you think afking and raging is more okay, but when you apply that argument for casually racist jokes I guess I think it makes casual racism okay but I don't think it makes really harmful prejudices okay. However I'm not sure about the gateway. (Like that shit where the woman couldn't find a job and made a separate account changing black to white and instantly got one, or the woman scientist changing gender and becoming more academically successful, that's pretty shocking)
Okay, that's fair and makes sense and I get it. We don't need to talk about it more here, but I get where you're coming from better now and that is nice. If you want to discuss more via PM, I'm all ears.
On May 03 2013 23:20 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 23:15 Serelitz wrote:
In the spirit of derailing this thread to slightly less controversial topics; what should I cook for dinner? Preferably something simple and/or cheap. How about a fry-up with equal numbers of black and white pudding OKAY SORRY SORRY
And this is funny. =P
On May 03 2013 23:20 Slayer91 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 23:15 Juicyfruit wrote:
I've taken a roguelike approach to playing LoL. It's like playing FTL or XCom - you can get lucky and get free weapons/good teammates or you get fucked by the RNG and get aliens/morons. Either way you still try to achieve the best outcome given your circumstances but don't play with the expectation of being able to win. Yeah exactly. You can't change these things, so if you have arguing teammates you just laugh about it and do your best. UNLESS we're talking about equilash's potential 5's team. If you are sticking together in a arranged team having arguments in game CLG style is shit you need to lockdown since its absolutely within your control. About FTL; when I got it I played it for like a whole weekend straight, won it, and then completely lost interest. How hard is it to win regularly (like 70-80%+) if you're a good player. I don't care about all the other ships because I kinda like the 1st one best.
I STILL HAVEN'T BEATEN THAT FUCKING GAME. Goddamn 2nd boss form.
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Without derailing this thread too far from food topics - why are you never online anymore Teut?
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I think I'll go with rice and chicken of some sort.
It's an amazing suggestion asmodeus but I had to google chicken broth, I don't think that's sold here 
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On May 03 2013 23:15 Serelitz wrote:
In the spirit of derailing this thread to slightly less controversial topics; what should I cook for dinner? Preferably something simple and/or cheap.
Beer-Battered Bratwurst. Beer, oil and spices in a pan/skillet, cook over stove until browned and cooked through. Enjoy with chips (or crisps or whatever they are where you're from), fries, or fried onions.
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On May 03 2013 23:23 EquilasH wrote:
Without derailing this thread too far from food topics - why are you never online anymore Teut?
I'm not playing LoL recently because of my exams. I always get dragged into duo q's and such and play until 2 am and that's not healthy for grades. I'm free till next week now so I'm using all my procrastinenergy to argue on TL now so I'll have nothing to do by this evening when its time to crack down on study again.
I'll probably be back LoL-marathoning in about 2 weeks.
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On May 03 2013 23:24 Serelitz wrote:I think I'll go with rice and chicken of some sort. It's an amazing suggestion asmodeus but I had to google chicken broth, I don't think that's sold here
It can be any broth really... chicken, beef, something else... I bet you could make it work. =P Unless it's like... miso broth... that probably wouldn't mesh well.
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chicken broth isn't sold there?
It's super common, just with different names. They're these little cubes that you mix in with water. There's some for chicken, beef, pork, fish... I don't really like chicken broth with like, rice. It has too strong of a taste :/ Maybe I should try half a cube. I think they're next to the spices usually
Also I love playing as support. Somehow I'm always in a better mood as support too, win or lose. Especially the games where the ADC doesn't flame you are lovely. Maybe I should buy more supports(Thresh)
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If you're going to buy thresh, do it soon before he gets gutted
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