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There are ways they could balance it.
Since the system can literally detect if you're AFK and send you an email about it while the game is happening (I've gotten them), it could also adjust your losses.
It could decide if a player was AFK for a long enough period of time, and if their team wins not give them any LP/MMR. If their team loses (much more likely), it could give them the full losses, but then for the rest of the team recalculate the teams average MMR based off the 4 remaining players instead of the 5, and adjust the losses accordingly. So while the AFKer still loses 15 MMR say, the rest of the team would only lose 12.
Definitely doable.
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The thing I'm more perplexed about is why the game starts when somebody fails to connect.
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If the client didn't bug out as often as it does it probably wouldn't have to. Unfortunately the client bugs out too much.
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sejuani is so unbelievably OP wtf
how did she even make it out of PBE
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On May 03 2013 14:08 kainzero wrote:
sejuani is so unbelievably OP wtf
how did she even make it out of PBE
because 99.9999% of the pbe players are really really horrendously bad
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My question is why people even care about their rating dropping due to afks.
In the long term afks on your team and thee enemy team will balance out (and, if you never afk, the enemy team will get more), so there won't be a net effect on your MMR/LP/division. People think about their rating in the short-term way too much.
The real issue with afks is that it causes 9 people to waste 20 minutes of their time. Fiddling with the rating systems doesn't change that.
You will have a lot more fun in ranked if you just take your rating as something that reflects your skill level, and not something that you can grind up to a certain level within a certain amount of time. Focus on improving yourself, and your rating will incidentally increase to reflect that you did so.
^ Ketara, any MMR system still needs to balance out MMR gains and losses. The afker would have to take increased losses to compensate for the other 4 team member's reduced losses.
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On May 03 2013 13:50 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 13:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
well, i actually just was incredibly frustrated and slammed my laptop lid down after losing 11 games of aram in a row. i havent been this annoyed since i had ALEKS in gen chem.
in the interest of not being solely a QQ:
riot should add some sort of system that punished AFK/leaving really hard-- checks how long its been since you moved, gotten gold, participated in a kill, etc. i know that they do, but it seems to have literally no effect. IMO its a worse offense than a dodge and should give like a 1hr penalty (that only ticks down while you're logged in). it doesnt only screw people over a little bit, but for at least 20 minutes. if its a 4v5, teams should also have the option to surrender before 20.
Riot can't ban people for first offenses, since there are a lot of legitimate things that can happen between your home internet and the Riot servers. And I think a lot of people had the weird impression you were allowed to leave in ARAM just because it was a 'casual' game mode, despite the warnings that popped up if you tried to leave. LeaverBuster should take care of those people soon, since ARAM is a matchmade mode, but there's a slight lag between afk and ban. EDIT: Here's a fun game: Count how many ways a Galio ult can be screwed up that an Amumu ult can't. For example, enemy Udyr in bear form
Yeah...I've had a lot problems with my college Internet lately, random drops for no reason. I feel really bad, wish I could tell people it's my dumb colleges fault
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That TF nerf looks rough. The ult cd nerf seems warranted but the cdr on e is gonna wreck midgame damage output and require blue throughout the game (dfg, e, blue pot, masteries got there before).
The attack speed buff is also useless for ap tf because if you stand there autoattacking you're probably dead in this carry dive meta.
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On May 03 2013 14:26 upperbound wrote:
That TF nerf looks rough. The ult cd nerf seems warranted but the cdr on e is gonna wreck midgame damage output and require blue throughout the game (dfg, e, blue pot, masteries got there before).
The attack speed buff is also useless for ap tf because if you stand there autoattacking you're probably dead in this carry dive meta.
The point of his E is the magic damage per 4 attacks now. It actually doesn't scale that badly.
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On May 03 2013 14:08 Ketara wrote:
If the client didn't bug out as often as it does it probably wouldn't have to. Unfortunately the client bugs out too much.
What do you mean "bug out"? I have never seen the client stop working in the middle of a game, barring internet issue on my side.
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On May 03 2013 14:27 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 14:26 upperbound wrote:
That TF nerf looks rough. The ult cd nerf seems warranted but the cdr on e is gonna wreck midgame damage output and require blue throughout the game (dfg, e, blue pot, masteries got there before).
The attack speed buff is also useless for ap tf because if you stand there autoattacking you're probably dead in this carry dive meta. The point of his E is the magic damage per 4 attacks now. It actually doesn't scale that badly.
My point is that there are hardly any common champs right now that Tf can stand and autoattack, or even kite without the cdr. I get the intention on paper but I don't see it working that way.
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On May 03 2013 13:50 thenexusp wrote:
Here's a fun game: Count how many ways a Galio ult can be screwed up that an Amumu ult can't. For example, enemy Udyr in bear form
Precast Blitz E and Garen Q.
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I might be a lucky one but I seriously never have trouble ever with AFKs. I get maybe one afk in 30 ranked games or so (FWIW I don't include people who afk when the game is basically over).
Maybe if they made it you get one loss forgiven a week if you have an afk on your team?
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On May 03 2013 14:13 thenexusp wrote:
My question is why people even care about their rating dropping due to afks.
In the long term afks on your team and thee enemy team will balance out (and, if you never afk, the enemy team will get more), so there won't be a net effect on your MMR/LP/division. People think about their rating in the short-term way too much.
The real issue with afks is that it causes 9 people to waste 20 minutes of their time. Fiddling with the rating systems doesn't change that.
You will have a lot more fun in ranked if you just take your rating as something that reflects your skill level, and not something that you can grind up to a certain level within a certain amount of time. Focus on improving yourself, and your rating will incidentally increase to reflect that you did so.
^ Ketara, any MMR system still needs to balance out MMR gains and losses. The afker would have to take increased losses to compensate for the other 4 team member's reduced losses.
Because when it happens during your promo series or when you're seeing throttled LP gains it's really really annoying.
Altho tbh I really can't think of a way Riot can implement anything about this that won't be abused in some way or another.
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On May 03 2013 12:51 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 12:47 sob3k wrote:
I just got Galio for ARAM and his ult was like fucking up/glitching, I had several people just walk out of it with no spellshield or anything...nobody plays Galio so I guess it doesn't matter but it was wierd. Still got a quadra and won It's not a bug. It's that if your target has tenacity (ANY tenacity), he has a chance of not taking any damage at all - because Galio's R's damage comes out after 2 seconds, and the taunt lasts 2 seconds times tenacity penalty.
It wasn't even that though, people well within the radius just wouldn't even get taunted and just keep walking away. If anyone else plays him you should see if you notice it happening.
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On May 03 2013 14:48 Amarok wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2013 13:50 thenexusp wrote:
Here's a fun game: Count how many ways a Galio ult can be screwed up that an Amumu ult can't. For example, enemy Udyr in bear form Precast Blitz E and Garen Q.
Rammus in powerball
Hecarim in speed mode
Precast jax stun
Kennen auto if you already have marks on you
Precast Leona Q
Precast Renekton W
Precast TF gold card
Precast Volibear Q
Precast Xin 3talon
any interrupt cast from outside of ult
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Naut autos, noct E(if leashed before galio ult starts), Kennen ulti,
I think that's it in terms of interrupts that can go through galio ulti.
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On May 03 2013 15:40 Amui wrote:
Naut autos, noct E(if leashed before galio ult starts), Kennen ulti,
I think that's it in terms of interrupts that can go through galio ulti.
naut autos only root
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how about you work your way to the top of solo queue so you meet the same players enough to know who you'd want on a team you big slacker 
although copenhagen wolves took all the good danish players I reckon
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On May 03 2013 15:55 Slayer91 wrote:how about you work your way to the top of solo queue so you meet the same players enough to know who you'd want on a team you big slacker although copenhagen wolves took all the good danish players I reckon
Aka not Equilash right? Burn.
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