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Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 22:51:30
May 02 2013 22:51 GMT
#961
So, apparently, when you are 0-1 in your promotion series and you log off because you are tired, you somehow lose the promotion series and like 30 points.

...
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
Celestia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico376 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 22:59:13
May 02 2013 22:59 GMT
#962
On May 03 2013 07:49 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 07:30 Shikyo wrote:
Hmmm...

When supporting as Sona, it's surprisingly good to just not use Crescendo for initiation ever and just hold onto it. Then during teamfight they are like LOOK A SQUISHY SONA and you get a 4man crescendo and ace them. Weird how almost no progamers do this, I feel like it works a lot better than just flashing in, stunning maybe 1 before others flash away, and then getting instabursted. Of course there's flash-crescendo times as well.

Also makes me wonder why Syndra doesn't supposedly crush more teamfights because after she gets to set up balls(which she naturally does by spamming Q) she gets scatter stuns that are faster and wider than crescendo

Xpecial does this, then all the armchair silver pros say he doesn't make plays.

I like to do this but at the same time I dont like to pick Sona because people rage at me for not initiating.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
May 02 2013 22:59 GMT
#963
On May 03 2013 07:30 Shikyo wrote:
Hmmm...

When supporting as Sona, it's surprisingly good to just not use Crescendo for initiation ever and just hold onto it. Then during teamfight they are like LOOK A SQUISHY SONA and you get a 4man crescendo and ace them. Weird how almost no progamers do this, I feel like it works a lot better than just flashing in, stunning maybe 1 before others flash away, and then getting instabursted. Of course there's flash-crescendo times as well.

Also makes me wonder why Syndra doesn't supposedly crush more teamfights because after she gets to set up balls(which she naturally does by spamming Q) she gets scatter stuns that are faster and wider than crescendo

if you get stunned once you are bursted down easily and you won't have crescendo. you take risks when you don't use it right away.

each teamfight is organic and there are times when you're supposed to use it whether it's initiate or counter initiate or peel.

even xiaoxiao hits some nice sona ults.


because of set-up time syndra scatter stuns aren't as snappy as sona's, that should be fairly obvious
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-02 23:37:38
May 02 2013 23:32 GMT
#964
On May 03 2013 07:59 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 07:30 Shikyo wrote:
Hmmm...

When supporting as Sona, it's surprisingly good to just not use Crescendo for initiation ever and just hold onto it. Then during teamfight they are like LOOK A SQUISHY SONA and you get a 4man crescendo and ace them. Weird how almost no progamers do this, I feel like it works a lot better than just flashing in, stunning maybe 1 before others flash away, and then getting instabursted. Of course there's flash-crescendo times as well.

Also makes me wonder why Syndra doesn't supposedly crush more teamfights because after she gets to set up balls(which she naturally does by spamming Q) she gets scatter stuns that are faster and wider than crescendo

if you get stunned once you are bursted down easily and you won't have crescendo. you take risks when you don't use it right away.

each teamfight is organic and there are times when you're supposed to use it whether it's initiate or counter initiate or peel.

even xiaoxiao hits some nice sona ults.


because of set-up time syndra scatter stuns aren't as snappy as sona's, that should be fairly obvious

Crescendo has a cast time as well, I'd argue that if she has a sphere in W it's actually faster.

And hmm well yeah dunno.

When I've played sona the flash-ults have mostly failed while when I just sit around waiting and then ult diving people it's almost always a free teamfight
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
May 03 2013 00:15 GMT
#965
On May 03 2013 07:45 mr_tolkien wrote:
Going to sleep to get ready for 12 hours of up and down commentating tomorrow <3

Hope a few TLers will tune in on twitch.tv/ogamingtv !

wait what happened to the other 2 guys?
i love them they are freaking good and funny
you have big shoes to fill
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
May 03 2013 00:23 GMT
#966
So I play Renekton with Sunfire cape, Warmogs, Spirit Visage vs a Varus / Anivia / Zac team. Varus and Anivia of course are building almost completely dmg and Zac goes full tank with a Sunfire.

In death recap, every single time Zac has highest dmg dealt and at the victory screen he's just a very tiny bit behind Varus and Anivia in damage dealt to champions.

What the hell.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
May 03 2013 00:29 GMT
#967
On May 03 2013 09:23 Shikyo wrote:
So I play Renekton with Sunfire cape, Warmogs, Spirit Visage vs a Varus / Anivia / Zac team. Varus and Anivia of course are building almost completely dmg and Zac goes full tank with a Sunfire.

In death recap, every single time Zac has highest dmg dealt and at the victory screen he's just a very tiny bit behind Varus and Anivia in damage dealt to champions.

What the hell.


%dmg yo.
"Do a barrel roll"
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 03 2013 00:40 GMT
#968
On May 03 2013 09:29 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 09:23 Shikyo wrote:
So I play Renekton with Sunfire cape, Warmogs, Spirit Visage vs a Varus / Anivia / Zac team. Varus and Anivia of course are building almost completely dmg and Zac goes full tank with a Sunfire.

In death recap, every single time Zac has highest dmg dealt and at the victory screen he's just a very tiny bit behind Varus and Anivia in damage dealt to champions.

What the hell.


%dmg yo.

%damage was designed in my opinion to let tanks kill other tanks.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 03 2013 00:51 GMT
#969
yep. you'll see a different relationship if you play squishies, carries always do the bulk of the damage to me unless they cant get to me in teamfights (i main ad)

that said zac does has some pretty nutso base damages lol
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 03 2013 01:10 GMT
#970
On May 03 2013 09:40 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 09:29 Phunkapotamus wrote:
On May 03 2013 09:23 Shikyo wrote:
So I play Renekton with Sunfire cape, Warmogs, Spirit Visage vs a Varus / Anivia / Zac team. Varus and Anivia of course are building almost completely dmg and Zac goes full tank with a Sunfire.

In death recap, every single time Zac has highest dmg dealt and at the victory screen he's just a very tiny bit behind Varus and Anivia in damage dealt to champions.

What the hell.


%dmg yo.

%damage was designed in my opinion to let tanks kill other tanks.

% damage is a bad design. It seems like it should let tanks kill other tanks but in actually it just lets anybody kill everybody faster.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 01:24:07
May 03 2013 01:21 GMT
#971
On May 03 2013 10:10 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 09:40 obesechicken13 wrote:
On May 03 2013 09:29 Phunkapotamus wrote:
On May 03 2013 09:23 Shikyo wrote:
So I play Renekton with Sunfire cape, Warmogs, Spirit Visage vs a Varus / Anivia / Zac team. Varus and Anivia of course are building almost completely dmg and Zac goes full tank with a Sunfire.

In death recap, every single time Zac has highest dmg dealt and at the victory screen he's just a very tiny bit behind Varus and Anivia in damage dealt to champions.

What the hell.


%dmg yo.

%damage was designed in my opinion to let tanks kill other tanks.

% damage is a bad design. It seems like it should let tanks kill other tanks but in actually it just lets anybody kill everybody faster.

Yup our Sivir reported that she at least twice had Zac as the highest dmg dealt in death recaps and Zac's ult + W combo did like 45% of her hp instantly(full tank build by Zac again). The Zac was like 7-11 and both Anivia and Varus were positive so thats not it either. I just feel like Zac deals stupid amounts of damage. I guess that's old news but this game just really made me realize just how dumb it is. (Also Varus has %hp dmg as well)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
May 03 2013 01:24 GMT
#972
its really funny to me that they made resistances overall less effective at mitigating damage (compared to a mix of HP and resists, or the 'stack hp all day' mentality of early S3) and released a billion champs with %hp damage
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 03 2013 01:29 GMT
#973
On May 03 2013 06:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2013 06:48 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On May 03 2013 06:47 wussleeQ wrote:
So i decided to grind to diamond 2 with quinn only + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
i'm not sure whether the games just got worse for me because i got super tired but it went downhill after a while

It's fatigue.

Everytime I go on long streaks of LoL, I start picking up losses towards the end because of it. You don't notice it, but it's there.


Solution: beer

just rampaged HARD as annie - best feeling ever

Was playing a couple Viktor games earlier, got stuck against an anivia and camped by naut - Aniv such a hard matchup for Viktor.

I've found I don't actually know what to do/pick against an anivia.

You take a deep sigh and then wait for the next opportunity to rant in GD about how stale, broken and especially boring Anivia is.
Doesn't work for me!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
May 03 2013 01:52 GMT
#974
Not sure why anyone would complain about TF getting nerfed. The fact that Regi's TF is banworthy (and powerful when it gets through) should be a dead giveaway.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-03 02:05:34
May 03 2013 01:55 GMT
#975
Woong makes a new LoL team where he will act as a coach. The Team will have 2 teams similar to the pro teams.

Team1:
"치미니, Catastrophi, 건자형, 불켜보니타릭짜응, GoD윤기"

Team2:
"SupeR Mes, FOR A Prime, 오골계닭다리, Calimport, Cammly"

Woong: "actually I did not have the thoughts of being a coach but since I met good teammembers I thought of becoming a coach"

They aim to be a pro team but at the moment they are just a amateur team. Although they train with famous teams they dont have the level for a pro team yet.
They will have their first appereance in the NicegameTV Clan battle. Teamname is Mig (Maximum impact gaming)

(translation is very loosely)
------------------------------------

치미니: rank 47 (Jungle)
Catastrophi: rank 131 (ADC)
건자형: rank 176 (support)
불켜보니타릭짜응: rank 565 (mid?)
GoD윤기: rank 424 (top)

SupeR Mes: rank 79 (top) former VTG
FOR A Prime: rank 116 (jungle)
오골계닭다리: rank 2378 (ADC)
Calimport: rank 440 (mid)
Cammly: rank 388 (support)

I looked them up and according to their most played champs i added the roles.
WriterFollow me @TL_Chexx
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 03 2013 02:17 GMT
#976
On May 03 2013 10:52 Amarok wrote:
Not sure why anyone would complain about TF getting nerfed. The fact that Regi's TF is banworthy (and powerful when it gets through) should be a dead giveaway.

I think globals are just strong in pro games due to coordination. If you were to nerf TF to being balanced in pro games he'd probably be horrible in solo queue.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
May 03 2013 02:34 GMT
#977
fuck team woong #1 and team woong #2

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17305 Posts
May 03 2013 02:35 GMT
#978
Just do to TF ult what they did to Nocturne ult. It solves so much so easily.
twitch.tv/cratonz
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 03 2013 02:43 GMT
#979
On May 03 2013 10:55 Chexx wrote:
Woong makes a new LoL team where he will act as a coach. The Team will have 2 teams similar to the pro teams.

Team1:
"치미니, Catastrophi, 건자형, 불켜보니타릭짜응, GoD윤기"

Team2:
"SupeR Mes, FOR A Prime, 오골계닭다리, Calimport, Cammly"

Woong: "actually I did not have the thoughts of being a coach but since I met good teammembers I thought of becoming a coach"

They aim to be a pro team but at the moment they are just a amateur team. Although they train with famous teams they dont have the level for a pro team yet.
They will have their first appereance in the NicegameTV Clan battle. Teamname is Mig (Maximum impact gaming)

(translation is very loosely)
------------------------------------

치미니: rank 47 (Jungle)
Catastrophi: rank 131 (ADC)
건자형: rank 176 (support)
불켜보니타릭짜응: rank 565 (mid?)
GoD윤기: rank 424 (top)

SupeR Mes: rank 79 (top) former VTG
FOR A Prime: rank 116 (jungle)
오골계닭다리: rank 2378 (ADC)
Calimport: rank 440 (mid)
Cammly: rank 388 (support)

I looked them up and according to their most played champs i added the roles.

IIRC wasn't MiG the old tag right around the time when the Korean server was starting

I think there was a joke that it stood for Maknoon is Gay
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
May 03 2013 02:43 GMT
#980
On May 03 2013 11:35 Craton wrote:
Just do to TF ult what they did to Nocturne ult. It solves so much so easily.


You mean make it a glorified flash at lvl 6?
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