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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
January 10 2013 02:56 GMT
#7421
On January 10 2013 11:52 Alaric wrote:
Isn't it a rerun? I don't remember by heart yesterday's comps, but there was a Syndra game 2.

not a rerun, since JRT was having net problems we decided to reschedule with same picks and bans
washed
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 03:05:32
January 10 2013 03:04 GMT
#7422
That Syndra so strong O_O
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 10 2013 03:05 GMT
#7423
Navitar, who es dis gai?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 10 2013 03:09 GMT
#7424
It's a girl. And a sub.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 10 2013 03:12 GMT
#7425
WHAT IS THIS BURST?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 10 2013 03:14 GMT
#7426
Warmogs Syndra gogo.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 10 2013 03:17 GMT
#7427
Do I spy a Warmog's?!

Light the Yango signal!!
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 10 2013 03:18 GMT
#7428
Wait... you can do that?! Use E before your W orb has even landed.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 10 2013 03:18 GMT
#7429
Ahh yes. Bestrice is clearly the #1 player in this game. Its not even close.
Freeeeeeedom
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 10 2013 03:20 GMT
#7430
choo choo lin is etlia aka best girl in game
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#7431
Well, that was anti-climatic...
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
January 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#7432
In top player streams I see Zed wrecking solo queue, but tournament it's all about Kha'Zix.
Mazzi
Profile Joined August 2012
440 Posts
January 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#7433
DAT EIC COMEBACK LOL
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#7434
im busier these days with study and work and jungling feels easier to keep mechanically clean than mid with less practice time available.
Hey! Listen!
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14023 Posts
January 10 2013 03:30 GMT
#7435
Crystalline Flask*
Cost increased to 345 from 225
Health restored changed to 120 over 12 seconds from 100 over 10 seconds.
Mana Restored changed to 60 over 12 seconds from 40 over 10 seconds.

Newest thing changed in PBE

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/01/19-pbe-update.html#more

can only get 3 pots or 1 pot and 1 ward with a flask opening now.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 03:34:40
January 10 2013 03:31 GMT
#7436
On January 10 2013 11:53 Filter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 11:35 Amarok wrote:
On January 10 2013 10:42 UniversalSnip wrote:
On January 10 2013 10:25 Amarok wrote:
On January 10 2013 10:06 UniversalSnip wrote:
On January 10 2013 09:48 Amarok wrote:
On January 10 2013 09:30 UniversalSnip wrote:
ah, LaNague, you miss the point. certain runes are still like twice as good but you literally couldn't clear camps last season without runes on almost all junglers. Unless you wanted to play fiddle every game and have a sketchy start anyway you'd just start out so so so behind that even in a game below your level you might be in trouble.


It was made out to be a much bigger deal than it was though. Requiring particular rune setups is not uncommon for other roles


no? not even close. you're confusing requiring a rune setup to perform efficiently at a role and requiring a rune setup to even be able to play the role at all. Even if you just give newbies all the runes for free it's still a terrible setup because they have to go find out which ones to use from a third party site or a friend just to play a standard role.


It's not a standard role at that level though. Plenty of low level games have 2-1-2 setups, and at lower levels 2-1-2 almost counters a jungler because players don't know how to deal with 1v2 lanes. Players that don't understand how to build to defeat jungle camps probably aren't playing at a level where having a jungler is essential.


Yeah, exactly. The role is already a complete mystery to new players. Do you know I tried using fortify/smite on amumu when I was a s1 noob because it was the only way i could kill blue to start with? Once you know you CAN jungle it was a whole 'nother level figuring out how it was even possible, because it was completely opaque. Now you get into the game and the method is right there in your recommended items, and all the related mastery stuff is very low in the trees.


My point is the scale of the problem didn't warrant the scale of the response. Low level players players not being able to jungle shouldn't be cause to change the entire mechanics of what had evolved at an advanced level to be a huge part of the game. The real problem was that the power of lower level players is scaled down enormously, and really that's the part of the problem that should have been addressed.

Not to mention does it really matter if it takes some investigation to be able to contribute? Isn't that a big part about what we love about playing games, working out how to overcome challenges?


People overlook that league wasn't really an esport at that time. Sure there were tournies and things going on, but it was on a similar level to Quake Live at the time. It's pretty clear at the time these changes were made even Riot saw LoL as more of a casual game, so far behind the likes of Starcraft 2 and BW that it was never going to catch up. League grew off it's player base to the point it's at now where it really is the #1 esport in terms of playerbase (both casual and professional) and viewership, it wasn't really expected to happen. If the game was as popular as it is now I highly doubt you would have seen any effort to make the lives of the low levels easier.


As someone who was playing at the time and spending way too much time reading red posts on GD, no, that's not the message I got from Riot at all concerning the competitive scene. Riot has pretty much always loved the fact that competitive LoL existed, always wanted to encourage it when they could, and have always been struggling to add features against the scrappy coding they had to do just to get the game off the ground before their money ran out. In fact one of the reasons we have the tournaments we have today is because Riot actively took the money they were making and set aside some of it for the competitive scene (at a loss), they've been trying to promote competitive LoL ever since WCG in S1.

Riot has nerfed specific champions for the sake of the casual experience but that's pretty much it. When they made the jungle changes they were obviously hoping it would help new players out but most of what they talked about was ganking, decisions, and jungle champion diversity.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 03:43:28
January 10 2013 03:35 GMT
#7437
On January 10 2013 12:30 Sermokala wrote:
Crystalline Flask*
Cost increased to 345 from 225
Health restored changed to 120 over 12 seconds from 100 over 10 seconds.
Mana Restored changed to 60 over 12 seconds from 40 over 10 seconds.

Newest thing changed in PBE

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/01/19-pbe-update.html#more

can only get 3 pots or 1 pot and 1 ward with a flask opening now.

It's 2.4 hp pots and 1.8 mana pots there. That's 147g. 345/147=2.35. So after your second refill you've purchased value.

I like the change.

edit: I should say I like the change because it makes lanes less sustainy, and also now I don't have to go 15 points in the support tree to get flask+ machete to buy value at lvl 1 when I jungle nunu.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 10 2013 04:02 GMT
#7438
Despite shaky results lately, TSM wins Razer's Team of the Year.
Real testament to TSM's fanbase.

2nd/3rd place went to CLG and TPA.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-10 04:20:21
January 10 2013 04:14 GMT
#7439
On January 10 2013 12:35 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2013 12:30 Sermokala wrote:
Crystalline Flask*
Cost increased to 345 from 225
Health restored changed to 120 over 12 seconds from 100 over 10 seconds.
Mana Restored changed to 60 over 12 seconds from 40 over 10 seconds.

Newest thing changed in PBE

http://www.surrenderat20.net/2013/01/19-pbe-update.html#more

can only get 3 pots or 1 pot and 1 ward with a flask opening now.

It's 2.4 hp pots and 1.8 mana pots there. That's 147g. 345/147=2.35. So after your second refill you've purchased value.

I like the change.

edit: I should say I like the change because it makes lanes less sustainy, and also now I don't have to go 15 points in the support tree to get flask+ machete to buy value at lvl 1 when I jungle nunu.

Meh, no more machete+flask openings. :<

Also I wonder how it could be, to buy ward+pots, come to lane, ward, and if the opponent started flask you push like mad to back early and buy a flask yourself. Of course you're more or less screwed if you can't push the wave to tower before the jungler starts camping and/or your opponent starts freezing the lane...


Also: http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/22810-unoffical-pbe-patch-notes-for-1-10-2013
Range nerf on Eve, 650 still longer than her detection by champions, is it?
And Yi portrait changed to something even more fugly... how do they "improve" this every time, I still can't grasp it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 10 2013 04:16 GMT
#7440
League with 1/2/3. OP.
Go go Alliance.
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