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Also, why hasnt khazix seen nerfs yet =/
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darkcloud8282
Canada776 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Also, why hasnt khazix seen nerfs yet =/ | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 10 2013 13:32 darkcloud8282 wrote: Just saw this on regi's stream lol + Show Spoiler + Also, why hasnt khazix seen nerfs yet =/ No idea, he's been getting a ton of play at OGN, pick/ban material. I've been playing him a lot recently mid and top and it's just really easy to abuse his absurd poke by leveling up and evolving his W. Interestingly enough the champ I had the hardest time against was Heimer. He just put down his turrets, and if I ever tried to dive he would just stun me and ult and melt my health. I tried to adjust my play style but he roamed and got kills in other lanes and became a real terror. Fed Heimer chunks health lol. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
Give it a month or two to get popular and then you'll see the nerfs. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Amarok
Australia2003 Posts
On January 10 2013 13:32 darkcloud8282 wrote: Just saw this on regi's stream lol + Show Spoiler + Also, why hasnt khazix seen nerfs yet =/ Dat homophobia OP. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 10 2013 13:58 Craton wrote: No, he's a problem. The symptom is carries/supports getting instagibbed without counterplay. That happens with basically any AD Mid now though. Edit: When Pantheon and Talon are viable characters, there is an underlying issue. They have mediocre kits, at best. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
On January 10 2013 13:59 cLutZ wrote: That happens with basically any AD Mid now though. Edit: When Pantheon and Talon are viable characters, there is an underlying issue. They have mediocre kits, at best. The problem is that whole role is built around being able to 100-0 a squishy. Problem is the number of tanky mages is actually quite small, and tanky ADC is basically urgot, if you even classify him as one. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 10 2013 14:05 Amui wrote: The problem is that whole role is built around being able to 100-0 a squishy. Problem is the number of tanky mages is actually quite small, and tanky ADC is basically urgot, if you even classify him as one. Yes, the whole ROLE is the problem, not Kha'Zix. 100-0 shouldn't be a thing in this game for any character until the 4-5 item mark, ala Anti-Mage. If you are able to assassinate it should only be lategame and only after suffering for many moons. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
How is Talon's kit worse than, say, Akali's, LeBlanc's or Fizz's (though the "resets" on Akali's ult help her take down several people)? | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 10 2013 14:08 cLutZ wrote: Yes, the whole ROLE is the problem, not Kha'Zix. 100-0 shouldn't be a thing in this game for any character until the 4-5 item mark, ala Anti-Mage. If you are able to assassinate it should only be lategame and only after suffering for many moons. Which is like the exact opposite in this game since assassins usually fall of in terms of damage late game. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 10 2013 14:09 Alaric wrote: Pantheon is a lane bully and supposedly good split-pusher. The splitpush part is false because it takes him a long-ass time to kill towers (Talon does it faster... ) and the nerf to his ult made it worse. If you want a problem with him, you could start searching elsewhere than "he's viable" because he also was in s2, and he isn't most viable as his intended role. How is Talon's kit worse than, say, Akali's, LeBlanc's or Fizz's (though the "resets" on Akali's ult help her take down several people)? Fizz's ult is awesome CC, he has troll-pole for good escape-ability, Talon is similar to Akali, except Resets, invis, energy (not mana). You basically described why Panth has a bad kit. Moreover, the point of a lane bully, is if you haven't sealed the game by the 20 min mark, your team should be at a significant advantage (true for Leblanc, no longer true for pantheon). Edit: On January 10 2013 14:12 onlywonderboy wrote: Which is like the exact opposite in this game since assassins usually fall of in terms of damage late game. Vs. who? Because they can still assassinate the AD carry or AP carry. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 10 2013 12:18 Alaric wrote: Wait... you can do that?! Use E before your W orb has even landed. Sorry for late reply. Yes, you can also use E before Q orb drops, you can actually even plink QE if it's near max range. The E hitbox isn't instant for the whole duration, I'd say it takes 0.5s to reach the end. I thought this stuff was common knowledge if you've played Syndra a few games | ||
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
On January 10 2013 14:17 Shikyo wrote: Sorry for late reply. Yes, you can also use E before Q orb drops, you can actually even plink QE if it's near max range. The E hitbox isn't instant for the whole duration, I'd say it takes 0.5s to reach the end. I thought this stuff was common knowledge if you've played Syndra a few games People haven't played Syndra at all, you can do all sorts of crazy things with E and your orbs, E has a fairly weird hitbox on it where somepoints it's longer then the indicator but on others it's shorter, favourite + easiest combo to pull off is if they have to go into the creepwave for cs to pickup a melee minion drop it on their head QEQR + Ignite, receive kills and CS. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 10 2013 14:16 cLutZ wrote: Fizz's ult is awesome CC, he has troll-pole for good escape-ability, Talon is similar to Akali, except Resets, invis, energy (not mana). You basically described why Panth has a bad kit. Moreover, the point of a lane bully, is if you haven't sealed the game by the 20 min mark, your team should be at a significant advantage (true for Leblanc, no longer true for pantheon). Edit: Vs. who? Because they can still assassinate the AD carry or AP carry. I guess what's kind of an archaic notion, that's the stigma that assassins had in S2 anyway. If they didn't start snowballing they had a hard time being relevant. Or at least that's the impression that I got. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On January 10 2013 14:23 Skithiryx wrote: People haven't played Syndra at all, you can do all sorts of crazy things with E and your orbs. Ult shotgun being one of my favorites. | ||
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
Pulling off a 6-7 orb ultimate is one of the better feelings in the game you can experience. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On January 10 2013 14:33 onlywonderboy wrote: M5 has released their LoL team. ex-M5 was obviously jealous that ex-CLG.EU was going to get a new name for LCS and wanted to join in on the fun. Also according to Slasher, ex-M5's manager dispelled the rumor that they are going to get picked up by Na'vi. M5 to Navi confirmed | ||
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