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On January 10 2013 01:42 Mensol wrote: I have one question!
Ziggs or Orianna?
I like Ziggs more but be aware he plays very unique and takes quite a few games to figure out. Orianna takes more team coordination to shine so I don't like to use her in solo. Ziggs is fucking awesome.
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On January 10 2013 02:57 Diamond wrote:Just revert the ult nerf, the rest is fine, that nerf was so dumb.
Considering a lot of the time that "bug" manifested was when skarner flashed for the ult in the first place, I think it's perfectly fair. A lot of junglers can pretty much guarantee kills if you're so out of position that they can walk up to you.
Either that or the mana on Q nerf.
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On January 10 2013 03:07 Amui wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 02:57 Diamond wrote:Just revert the ult nerf, the rest is fine, that nerf was so dumb. Considering a lot of the time that "bug" manifested was when skarner flashed for the ult in the first place, I think it's perfectly fair. A lot of junglers can pretty much guarantee kills if you're so out of position that they can walk up to you.
With the nerfs to flash I see no problem with it how it was. Punished people for stupid positioning, a well coordinated team will make sure and just keep the tanks up front (who you don't want to grab).
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Wow Hydra Trynd is so op wtf.
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On January 10 2013 03:23 HazMat wrote: Wow Hydra Trynd is so op wtf. What makes it better on trynd than over other melee champs? Is it because he already gets free crit chance?
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On January 10 2013 03:30 wei2coolman wrote:What makes it better on trynd than over other melee champs? Is it because he already gets free crit chance?
I would assume it's because he can afford to largely ignore defenses in favor of just having craptons of AD, resulting in egregious amounts of AoE damage.
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United States37500 Posts
Waking up and reading 14 pages of GD? npnp (missed OGN though, fk)
Reading people calling Yango a troll? priceless
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On January 10 2013 03:30 wei2coolman wrote:What makes it better on trynd than over other melee champs? Is it because he already gets free crit chance? Insane ad due to Q.
edit: Granted this was a normal game and I had 400 cs. Still was hilarious how much dmg the proc was doing.
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y u trolling normals,have you no shame?
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On January 10 2013 03:38 NeoIllusions wrote: Waking up and reading 14 pages of GD? npnp (missed OGN though, fk)
Reading people calling Yango a troll? priceless
There are some things Riot can't provide. For everything else, there's TL GD.
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On January 10 2013 03:38 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 03:30 wei2coolman wrote:On January 10 2013 03:23 HazMat wrote: Wow Hydra Trynd is so op wtf. What makes it better on trynd than over other melee champs? Is it because he already gets free crit chance? Insane ad due to Q. edit: Granted this was a normal game and I had 400 cs. Still was hilarious how much dmg the proc was doing. Oh, thought it was like some serious realization in some high elo games that you came to this conclusion. rofl.
It still amazes me how much AD hydra gives, also not sure why Riot so insistent on having anal beads as a build up item for tiamat.
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On January 10 2013 03:45 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 03:38 HazMat wrote:On January 10 2013 03:30 wei2coolman wrote:On January 10 2013 03:23 HazMat wrote: Wow Hydra Trynd is so op wtf. What makes it better on trynd than over other melee champs? Is it because he already gets free crit chance? Insane ad due to Q. edit: Granted this was a normal game and I had 400 cs. Still was hilarious how much dmg the proc was doing. Oh, thought it was like some serious realization in some high elo games that you came to this conclusion. rofl. It still amazes me how much AD hydra gives, also not sure why Riot so insistent on having anal beads as a build up item for tiamat.
Cause double Bead opening is going to be pretty fun once pros realize how good Hydra is late game.
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On January 10 2013 01:59 Scip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 01:40 Requizen wrote:On January 10 2013 01:32 Eiii wrote: Since we're on TL and all, I feel like I'm obligated to bring up that hecarim is just a worse version of skarner. Not with IBG he's not. Now both have permaslow, and it's mostly comparing their ults. Inc discussion about IBG vs TF on Hec sure, but cost efficiency aside, IBG gives him the sticking power that's not on RNG like Phage, and gives him the resists + CDR he desires. Then again I think I've only played him twice since S3, so don't take me too seriously. Yeah, you just need to get a 3400 gold item and then Hecarim is roughly equivalent to Skarner ! :3 In the meantime, Skarner can get Locket to shield his shield to own faces while he owns faces and Shurelyas so he can be fast while he is fast. VROOM. Yeah, whenever I tried to Hecarim, I ran into that problem where you ult in and then go "well, wtf do I do now" because everyone is far away from you just awkwardly press W and Q without having anyone to focus. But yeah, generally I have very large issue with any jungler who doesn't get aura items very quickly OR is not a very powerful assasin. With how strong Bulwark, Shurelyas, Sightstone and Locket are and because support can't get all them things, I think junglers really ought to get some.
That's why you don't ult in. Use E to initiate or peel. Save the ult to get people off your ADC.
Hecarim has the best ADC defense in the game: Since he is so big and ignores unit collision, stand on your ADC and make it impossible for people to target them. Perfect vs autoattack comps, but countered by AoE.
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On January 10 2013 03:48 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 03:45 wei2coolman wrote:On January 10 2013 03:38 HazMat wrote:On January 10 2013 03:30 wei2coolman wrote:On January 10 2013 03:23 HazMat wrote: Wow Hydra Trynd is so op wtf. What makes it better on trynd than over other melee champs? Is it because he already gets free crit chance? Insane ad due to Q. edit: Granted this was a normal game and I had 400 cs. Still was hilarious how much dmg the proc was doing. Oh, thought it was like some serious realization in some high elo games that you came to this conclusion. rofl. It still amazes me how much AD hydra gives, also not sure why Riot so insistent on having anal beads as a build up item for tiamat. Cause double Bead opening is going to be pretty fun once pros realize how good Hydra is late game. Hydra/Shiv/IBG/IE GP with Alacrity Swiftness boots. Qs one shot minion waves, poke for millions of damages. I got a bit fed.
But I honestly have 100% win rate with Alacrity upgraded Swifties. Always go fast, never not go fast.
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Hydra is like, the answer to Tryndamere's problems in Aram. Beads op.
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On January 10 2013 03:45 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On January 10 2013 03:38 HazMat wrote:On January 10 2013 03:30 wei2coolman wrote:On January 10 2013 03:23 HazMat wrote: Wow Hydra Trynd is so op wtf. What makes it better on trynd than over other melee champs? Is it because he already gets free crit chance? Insane ad due to Q. edit: Granted this was a normal game and I had 400 cs. Still was hilarious how much dmg the proc was doing. Oh, thought it was like some serious realization in some high elo games that you came to this conclusion. rofl. It still amazes me how much AD hydra gives, also not sure why Riot so insistent on having anal beads as a build up item for tiamat. DUNNO MAN IT SEEMED LEGIT. I'll try it in some real games eventually.
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Tiamat Spin + Trynda Spin instaclear creeps.
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On January 10 2013 03:56 zer0das wrote: Hydra is like, the answer to Tryndamere's problems in Aram. Beads op.
Gives no AP, not the answer to trynd in ARAM
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United States47024 Posts
The answer to Tryndamere in ARAM is to max Mocking Shout.
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Tryndamere is the answer to the full AD teams.
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