[Patch 1.0.0.141: Draven] General Discussion - Page 81

On June 16 2012 02:59 Seuss wrote:


The last time I watched Oddone play Hecarim he maxed E before Q or W. You might as well max Bear Stance on jungle Udyr.

Hecarim is a strong jungler, but most players/teams aren't familiar with him and what he can do. The safe build for Hecarim is:

• Runes: Movespeed Quints, AD Marks, Armor Seals, MR/Lvl Glyphs
  
• Skills: WQEQQR R>Q>W>E
  
• Starting Items: Boots + 3p
  
• Build: Philo + HoG + Merc's -> Glacial Shroud/Aegis -> Shurelya's

If you get fed or need to do more damage you can build Avarice/GB instead for more damage, but if you build that way you need to be a lot smarter about your positioning and teamfight entrances (hence the "safe" build being more tanky). CDR turns you into a monster because Q is a lot of damage and W is a lot of tankiness.

On June 16 2012 03:16 Shikyo wrote:
Help me decide:

1. Buy Corki now

2. Save for Graves

3. Save for Kog'Maw

4. Save for something else(Ezreal, Caitlyn, Varus)

Currently leaning towards Graves and ololoing into 1.8k elo or whatever

On June 16 2012 03:16 Shikyo wrote:
Help me decide:

1. Buy Corki now

2. Save for Graves

3. Save for Kog'Maw

4. Save for something else(Ezreal, Caitlyn, Varus)

Currently leaning towards Graves and ololoing into 1.8k elo or whatever

On June 16 2012 03:05 Mogwai wrote:

Given how much time everyone spends playing this game and the level of dedication that some teams have for getting better, I think it's fair to say that "everyone is bad" is equivalent to "this game is hard to master." Unless of course you want to assume that everyone who takes this game seriously is a retard.

On June 16 2012 03:33 UniversalSnip wrote:


I know you have this fetish for unconventional stuff, try corki mid, I think you'll like it

On June 16 2012 03:42 Shikyo wrote:

Actually for once I'm trying to tryhard learn to AD bottom lane ~

On June 16 2012 03:46 NeoIllusions wrote:


If you're going for srs AD, take my suggestions.

Learning Trist/Ashe is also very good. Those two are stronk staples for a reason (range/initiation respectively)
Corki/Graves is just tons of damage.

On June 16 2012 03:42 Shikyo wrote:

Actually for once I'm trying to tryhard learn to AD bottom lane ~

On June 16 2012 03:51 overt wrote:


In that case, Corki really strong during mid game and has a strong late game. Personally I think his laning isn't as good as a lot of other ADs (it's not terrible either). I think Corki is probably one of the most well-rounded ADs.

Graves is gonna let you just completely destroy people who are worse than you in skill bottom lane. Like, I'm pretty sure if you're just straight better than someone it will not be uncommon for you to get 3-4 kills in lane as Graves. If you're even in skill, Graves will still let you come out ahead in CS. His laning is just that ridiculous and I don't think he has any bad match up except for the obvious ones (like Urgot and to a degree Caitlyn but he handles Caitlyn way better than most other ADs). To top off his insane early game he has one of the better mid games for AD carries and his late game is strong too because of his AS buff on his E.

Kog was originally thought to be a bad laner but I'm pretty sure most everyone agrees that his lane phase is actually pretty solid. You just have to deal with having zero escapes as Kog. If you can get through lane phase and position properly Kog is really strong in solo queue even if you have teammates who don't protect you (just need to position well which is easy because Kog's range is ridiculous and he melts people).

Ez is most fun AD by far. I think that Ez is just as good as Corki in solo queue you just have to be good at Ez. Caitlyn is fine but you need to get an advantage with her early game because her late game dps is kind of weak since she has no steroids at all and her ult is basically worthless late game. Varus is decent but if you wanted to play an AD with early/mid dps you'd just play Graves and if you wanted to play an AD with utility you'd just play Ashe.