EPTIf it was aspd or AD instead it'd be far more viable. Something with mediocre cost-efficiency, like maybe 25% aspd at 825g or 15 AD at 750Gg
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
If it was aspd or AD instead it'd be far more viable. Something with mediocre cost-efficiency, like maybe 25% aspd at 825g or 15 AD at 750Gg | ||
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
On June 16 2012 06:41 Shikyo wrote: then if he walks forward you can stun against the wall Umm, I am a bit confused. If poppy is in the bush, AD is in lane, the wall is behind you. How can you stun AD against the wall? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 16 2012 06:55 nosliw wrote: Umm, I am a bit confused. If poppy is in the bush, AD is in lane, the wall is behind you. How can you stun AD against the wall? You camp the forward brush, on both sides there's walls. If the AD is closer than that you just run to them and auto like a motherfucker and they're forced to either attack you 30 times missing about 20 minions or run away (And btw you win the trade if your carry attacks him too, I don't think there's a stronger lvl 1 than poppy for supports) | ||
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nosliw
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Flakes
United States3125 Posts
On June 16 2012 06:46 Juddas wrote: I have decided two things recently 1). GP10 items are really good if you get them early enough and play passively, which I tend to do 2). They need to change or remove avarice blade. Right now there is no reason for anyone to really get it. Crit chance just isn't that appealing of a stat. I wouldn't mind a Kage's with just AD, or something with AS, or maybe even lifesteal. But right now, I find it silly. The only time I have ever gotten it was when I went 4 GP10 AP Ganglplank. P.S. got shitloads of gold and carried hard that game. The other problem is that it only builds into ghostblade, and if you're planning on ever getting one, you want that brutalizer as early as possible (when flat arpen is the strongest) | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
pulling a numbers here. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On June 16 2012 03:32 TheYango wrote: Not that anyone other than me is ever interested in this stuff anyway, but... VODs for the Chinese IPL5 Qualifier: http://www.youku.com/playlist_show/id_17538790.html Is it just me or is the Chinese commentary incredibly dry? | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On June 16 2012 08:07 ArC_man wrote: Is it just me or is the Chinese commentary incredibly dry? It's not just you. The MarsTV commentators suck, lol. | ||
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
On June 16 2012 06:35 Raisauce wrote: Thinking of purchasing Vlad or Swain. Who do you guys think is less counterable at the moment? I feel like both champs are more for counterpicking rather than first/second picks in ranked. Swain IMO, his recent buffs made him a very strong laner, Vlad is way too counterable(not to mention Swain counters him) he loses to ALOTTT of people | ||
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Shikyo
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
edit: Swain is and already was pretty strong. He does have losing matchups though, so definitely not easy trying to pick him. Hes really more of a counterpick as you mentioned. Both are pretty strong, but Vlad does top better than him imo. Plus his team fight is better imo as well. | ||
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Jacobs Ladder
United States1705 Posts
On June 16 2012 06:52 Shikyo wrote: I totally agree that Avarice Blade is extremely underwhelming right now. You need to get it early and at that point crit chance just sucks. If anything it ruins lasthits. If it was aspd or AD instead it'd be far more viable. Something with mediocre cost-efficiency, like maybe 25% aspd at 825g or 15 AD at 750Gg Armor pen. Just flat ARP. Would buy it a lot. Also, I haven't played against New Swain much but last time he was strong I would just shove him to tower all day. Never fight, just shove. He has no wave clear and his last hitting is pretty gross. | ||
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
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Vaporized
United States1471 Posts
On June 16 2012 08:32 Shikyo wrote: Is anyone planning on making a Draven thread anytime soon? I think I'm starting to learn him pretty well. Maybe after a few more days of DRAVEN spam I'll be ready, even though my current elo is quite low but u make one. do u only play him bot? i saw some top dravens and ive tried jungle in bot games, havent broken that one out in a live game yet. | ||
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Juddas
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On June 16 2012 07:03 Flakes wrote: The other problem is that it only builds into ghostblade, and if you're planning on ever getting one, you want that brutalizer as early as possible (when flat arpen is the strongest) Oh wow that is another really good point, hadn't even thought of it.... So there is honestly no reason whatsoever to be getting this is there? Maybeeee on jungle tryndamere, but even then | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On June 16 2012 09:21 Vaporized wrote: u make one. do u only play him bot? i saw some top dravens and ive tried jungle in bot games, havent broken that one out in a live game yet. People dont let me top Draven because I tanked my elo too much. The only time I actually picked top Draven the last pick got super raged and picked surge/promote Heimerdinger and went to dual toplane with me vs Irelia (I went 11-0-9 that game) | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 16 2012 08:39 Cloud9157 wrote: So I've been thinking about an item I used to build on Irelia way back last year. Eleisa's Miracle kinda sucks, especially since you wouldn't build it out of Philo when Shurleya's is around. I think the item needs to build into something similarly to what they did to the chalice. edit: Swain is and already was pretty strong. He does have losing matchups though, so definitely not easy trying to pick him. Hes really more of a counterpick as you mentioned. Both are pretty strong, but Vlad does top better than him imo. Plus his team fight is better imo as well. Same with Cloak and Dagger, and Spellfire Moonblade. No one buys these. | ||
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