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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 15 2012 19:25 GMT
#1621
corki's laning is about equal to graves
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 15 2012 19:28 GMT
#1622
i predict a numbers post in the next 5 minutes about winning lane and losing game
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 15 2012 19:29 GMT
#1623
The OP thing about graves is his retarded smokescreen.
Cackle™
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
June 15 2012 19:30 GMT
#1624
On June 16 2012 04:29 TheKefka wrote:
The OP thing about graves is his retarded smokescreen.


Nah mang - 4 second on demand ranged Noct ult on a short cooldown normal ability that does good damage is totes balanced.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
June 15 2012 19:33 GMT
#1625
On June 16 2012 03:32 TheYango wrote:
Not that anyone other than me is ever interested in this stuff anyway, but...

VODs for the Chinese IPL5 Qualifier: http://www.youku.com/playlist_show/id_17538790.html

I'd be a lot more interested if I know what teams to watch for and if the mainland Chinese client doesn't make me rage. Why couldn't they have taken the sensible approach to champ names like the HK and Taiwanese client.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 15 2012 19:33 GMT
#1626
On June 16 2012 04:29 TheKefka wrote:
The OP thing about graves is his retarded smokescreen.

Because of that piece of shit ability nothing can duel with him. Even if it wasn't a slow but with the slow in AD carry vs AD carry battles graves just kills the enemy before they can see him even if the enemy is significantly better geared -.-
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
June 15 2012 19:50 GMT
#1627
On June 16 2012 04:33 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 04:29 TheKefka wrote:
The OP thing about graves is his retarded smokescreen.

Because of that piece of shit ability nothing can duel with him. Even if it wasn't a slow but with the slow in AD carry vs AD carry battles graves just kills the enemy before they can see him even if the enemy is significantly better geared -.-

I never spend enough time in the screen to know, if you Q him as Corki and enter smokescreen are you able to see him?
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
June 15 2012 19:52 GMT
#1628
On June 16 2012 03:32 TheYango wrote:
Not that anyone other than me is ever interested in this stuff anyway, but...

VODs for the Chinese IPL5 Qualifier: http://www.youku.com/playlist_show/id_17538790.html

Is there IPL5 Qual for Taiwan? I want to see TPA play since people seem to say they are the best team atm.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-15 20:12:55
June 15 2012 20:12 GMT
#1629
do you lose elo for a leave? even if your team won the game?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 15 2012 20:14 GMT
#1630
On June 16 2012 05:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
do you lose elo for a leave? even if your team won the game?


in the current system or the one they want to implement?

if you leave the game but your team wins, but you left before you would get a leaver mark, you get elo (i.e if you leave after the last 1/3rd of the game)

if you leave the game and get a leaver mark, you lose elo even if your team wins
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 15 2012 20:16 GMT
#1631
On June 16 2012 04:50 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 04:33 Shikyo wrote:
On June 16 2012 04:29 TheKefka wrote:
The OP thing about graves is his retarded smokescreen.

Because of that piece of shit ability nothing can duel with him. Even if it wasn't a slow but with the slow in AD carry vs AD carry battles graves just kills the enemy before they can see him even if the enemy is significantly better geared -.-

I never spend enough time in the screen to know, if you Q him as Corki and enter smokescreen are you able to see him?

I wouldn't think so. Corki's reveal isn't specific to Corki, it is team wide. All the team wide stuff gets shut out by Graves/Noc afaik. You can't even see your own CV. Well, there isn't any vision that isn't team wide I guess... Still, I'd expect you can't see stuff anyways.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 15 2012 20:19 GMT
#1632
Apparently when somebody is standing right next or even behind you, Naut's anchor will grab them anyway. Happened several times to me, I usually attributed it to me missclinking or something, but a Fizz used his Q on me and right behind me, a bit on my left, I anchor'd right in front of me and just stayed in place while Fizz got immobilized. So frustrating, people just have to stick to you and you can't escape ganks with Q. >.<
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
June 15 2012 20:24 GMT
#1633
So has anyone else been getting outrageout ping to the point that the game pretty much becomes unplayable? Literally stuck in like a 4 second delay between commands.

Can't tell if its my internet or a user-specific problem for Riot. I've done so many things already though: virus scans, removed programs, lowered the processes running at once, and my router seems to be running just fine. Kinda confused as to what else could be wrong.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
June 15 2012 20:36 GMT
#1634
On June 16 2012 04:28 gtrsrs wrote:
i predict a numbers post in the next 5 minutes about winning lane and losing game


fyi that wasn't me. Some1 told me about the game. They pretended to be me.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
June 15 2012 20:37 GMT
#1635
On June 16 2012 05:24 Cloud9157 wrote:
So has anyone else been getting outrageout ping to the point that the game pretty much becomes unplayable? Literally stuck in like a 4 second delay between commands.

Can't tell if its my internet or a user-specific problem for Riot. I've done so many things already though: virus scans, removed programs, lowered the processes running at once, and my router seems to be running just fine. Kinda confused as to what else could be wrong.

Find a test for speed, ping and packet loss etc. Not that I knew how to fix it if something turns up though.
Also ovbiously you should check if this is limited to LoL or across other real time games as well.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 15 2012 20:56 GMT
#1636
On June 16 2012 04:52 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 03:32 TheYango wrote:
Not that anyone other than me is ever interested in this stuff anyway, but...

VODs for the Chinese IPL5 Qualifier: http://www.youku.com/playlist_show/id_17538790.html

Is there IPL5 Qual for Taiwan? I want to see TPA play since people seem to say they are the best team atm.

Yes, though it's still in groupstage. TPA advanced from group A already. Groups B and C and the Wildcard are yet to be played, but I don't think any terribly interesting teams are playing.

The qualifier playoffs will happen on July 14-15. It'll probably be streamed on Garena Taiwan's Twitch or Youtube streams.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 15 2012 20:59 GMT
#1637
On June 16 2012 05:36 0123456789 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2012 04:28 gtrsrs wrote:
i predict a numbers post in the next 5 minutes about winning lane and losing game


fyi that wasn't me. Some1 told me about the game. They pretended to be me.


oh well they were really mad, whoever they were
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Raisauce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada864 Posts
June 15 2012 21:35 GMT
#1638
Thinking of purchasing Vlad or Swain. Who do you guys think is less counterable at the moment? I feel like both champs are more for counterpicking rather than first/second picks in ranked.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 15 2012 21:41 GMT
#1639
Support poppy just so good... Perhaps the best brush camper in the game. Can take a billion hits so if the AD decides to auto you you just sit there and take like 40 attacks NP while he misses all the lasthits... then if he walks forward you can stun against the wall. Pink ward in the brush makes you more dangerous than Alistar.

After lvl 6 you can dive the AD with ignite if they drop below, like, 60% hp which should happen plenty of times

Usually get at least a few kills but either way the idea is to steal some lasthits from your AD(and have him call you names) until you have double gp5, then build a 3rd gp5 and then sorcs and then sheen,

At that point can start farming everywhere(yes even as a support) and in the lategame the support poppy is going to be an incredibly strong factor in comparison to every other support as long as you get through the early game
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
June 15 2012 21:46 GMT
#1640
I have decided two things recently

1). GP10 items are really good if you get them early enough and play passively, which I tend to do

2). They need to change or remove avarice blade. Right now there is no reason for anyone to really get it. Crit chance just isn't that appealing of a stat. I wouldn't mind a Kage's with just AD, or something with AS, or maybe even lifesteal. But right now, I find it silly. The only time I have ever gotten it was when I went 4 GP10 AP Ganglplank.

P.S. got shitloads of gold and carried hard that game.
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